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Hey guys,
I guess I'd share this with you.
I sent a mail to SE asking them about a more specific explanation regarding the multi-touch function. I also asked them about if they plan to keep updating the Xperia after 2.1.
What they said in reply to the multi touch part is that the X10 handset does not support the MT feature.
"This requires two layers of the capacity screen for this feature to be added succesfully which the handset does not have. The handset only has one layer of capacitive touch screen."
I don't know about the technical stuff, so maybe somebody over here can confirm this.
Their reply to the update part was that they haven't got any further information regarding any other updates until after the release of the Android 2.1 update. So it is still a guess.
What they did say is that 2.1 will be released in the UK before the end of September. So it is indeed several weeks away, if they are telling the truth.
These subjects are getting annoying now i understand that MT is a feature that lots of people want but my question to these people is why didnt u buy a phone with MT in the first place now for the 2.1 update we know its coming very soon so just be patient its not that big a deal i love my x10 and if it wasnt getting 2.1 id still love it also as for updates after 2.1 y dnt u just wait and see we aint got 2.1 yet and ur already thinking about whats gonna happen after that anyway thats just my thoughts
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how about dual touch? does it require 2 layers of the capacity screen as well?
maybe we will get the missing layer by mail.
then we will have multitouch.
toonarmy85 said:
These subjects are getting annoying now i understand that MT is a feature that lots of people want but my question to these people is why didnt u buy a phone with MT in the first place now for the 2.1 update we know its coming very soon so just be patient its not that big a deal i love my x10 and if it wasnt getting 2.1 id still love it also as for updates after 2.1 y dnt u just wait and see we aint got 2.1 yet and ur already thinking about whats gonna happen after that anyway thats just my thoughts
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I believe a lot of people thought the lack of MT was probably due to 1.6 rather then SE deciding not to put in the hardware to support it. Who could blame them when devices from other companies had hardware support for MT well before the X10 came out. I bet a lot of people who bought the X10 were told that MT would be available with a software upgrade, hell even SE's US web site says the X10 has multi-touch.
I would love to know what the reasoning was behind not adding MT support. Was it SE saying we can get these hi res non MT screens for cheap, that no one wants & put them in our flagship Android device? If that is the case it makes me wonder if SE isn't on life support & desperate to cut corners anywhere they can to save money.
OMG, yet another MT topic, mods shuld really ban you guys, I would for sure, you are making this forum a junk forum, worst than spam topics !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758930&highlight=multitouch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756737&highlight=multitouch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=721323&highlight=multitouch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731521&highlight=multitouch
I really hope and hold my fingers crossed that we NEVER get MT on this X10 and that SE sends each of you whiners a private letter telling you that there wont be MT for X10...like it isnt bad that we wait 6 months for 2.1 like mentaly retarded fools are working for SE...
phoneguy 4567 said:
I believe a lot of people thought the lack of MT was probably due to 1.6 rather then SE deciding not to put in the hardware to support it. Who could blame them when devices from other companies had hardware support for MT well before the X10 came out. I bet a lot of people who bought the X10 were told that MT would be available with a software upgrade, hell even SE's US web site says the X10 has multi-touch.
I would love to know what the reasoning was behind not adding MT support. Was it SE saying we can get these hi res non MT screens for cheap, that no one wants & put them in our flagship Android device? If that is the case it makes me wonder if SE isn't on life support & desperate to cut corners anywhere they can to save money.
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Ur probably right m8 but people should also look at specs and reviews before they rush out and spend tho i belive MT wasnt implemented because of apple and the recent law case against htc i think SE didnt want all the hassle but i could be wrong
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X10
I really dont care about 2.1 but it will be nice when it arrives and i absolutley love my X10 as it is so anything is a bonus ....... Toon toon black and white army !!!!! )
Everytime someone posts a topic about multitouch or 2.1, God kills a kitten.
Please, save the kittens!!
toonarmy85 said:
Ur probably right m8 but people should also look at specs and reviews before they rush out and spend tho i belive MT wasnt implemented because of apple and the recent law case against htc i think SE didnt want all the hassle but i could be wrong
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The lawsuit stuff may be a reason not to include MT but that could be accomplished through software. If I was working at SE I would have included the hardware support & at least left the door open to turning on the support later. Doing it this way just makes SE look cheap IMO.
I don't find MT a very useful feature but one that doesn't get in my way when doing other things, so I'm indifferent to it.
I agree with others there is no need to have all these different threads all talking about MT.
phoneguy 4567 said:
The lawsuit stuff may be a reason not to include MT but that could be accomplished through software. If I was working at SE I would have included the hardware support & at least left the door open to turning on the support later. Doing it this way just makes SE look cheap IMO.
I don't find MT a very useful feature but one that doesn't get in my way when doing other things, so I'm indifferent to it.
I agree with others there is no need to have all these different threads all talking about MT.
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I couldnt agree more SE obviously took the cheaper way out which was also easier for them but instead of this turning into a debatable thread i agree that there is no need for all these threads about the same two things maybe we should all concentrate on the things that made us all buy the x10
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iead1 said:
Everytime someone posts a topic about multitouch or 2.1, God kills a kitten.
Please, save the kittens!!
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You just made my day. Lol
berbecverde said:
maybe we will get the missing layer by mail.
then we will have multitouch.
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I assume that by "mail" you mean you mean through the post as clearly they couldn't email you another capacitative layer electronically?!!!
iead1 said:
Everytime someone posts a topic about multitouch or 2.1, God kills a kitten.
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Really?!... Think I might start a few multitouch debates then.. I don't think that this subject is being discussed nearly enough.. !!!!!!!!
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I assume that by "mail" you mean you mean through the post as clearly they couldn't email you another capacitative layer electronically?!!!
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Yes i ment by postal mail,but that was just a joke
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berbecverde said:
Yes i ment by postal mail,but that was just a joke
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and so was my reply.. maybe too subtle?!
iead1 said:
Everytime someone posts a topic about multitouch or 2.1, God kills a kitten.
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+1........
Pfff, you people should be happy you only hear this in the forum. Imagine living with a whiner. (me)
So kittens are killed hm? I don't care about that.
If it were puppies... but it's only about kittens
Even though it's worthless making a fuzz about it, since it doesn't change **** to the hardware of the x10 or SE implementing it sooner if possible.
Having that said, it is a disgrace that SE after almost 5 months since the release of the experia still dares to put up a big lie on their US website claiming the X10 does support multitouch. Such a thing is not an accident, the're not complete morrons at SE, it is purposely put there to mislead consumers into believing they are gonna be buying multitouch devices.
I'm really happy with my x10, but I find it a bit embarracing the way SE deals with information about the features and softwareupdates/bugfixes (like poor volume).
I think the people who care the most are those porn addicts who like to pinch and zoom the naked "whatever."
Please no more Kitten killings. Oops, I just did that.
After the release of the wildfire it took a unusual amount of time to root and now the hboot has been changed to prevent rooting I ask the question why the consumer should have the right to run roms that suits them best I refer to geohotz jailbreak with the iPhone
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To sell newer products, thats why.
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To sell newer products, thats why.
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yeah i agree, they want to sell you newer devices with new android versions. they must also be pretty mad about the hacked app markets
Its the solemn duty p) of a company to protect its products. No product I believe has a weak security system, and, its always a cat and mouse game between the devs and the company devs. Be it iOS, Symbian, Game Consoles.. etc.
No one likes to see their product "hacked" and to be used in a manner better than it was intended to.
As far as I know the Nokia N900 and LiMo devices are very open to hacking, very much unlike Android, webOS and iOS phones.
Why would anyone protect their properties
Also maybe cos they were planning for Gingerbread release on the Wildfire, and by then they want all devices to be hackproof or something.. jus maybe..
It's to keep idiots out.
Look around the forum and look at the amount of "OMG I BRICKD DAT WILDFIRE CUZ I FLASHED TEH ROMS PLZ HALP" posts.
Apple always try to find a way against jailbreaking aswell.
Alex_GP said:
To sell newer products, thats why.
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Anyone who posts a reason other than this is very naive.
I'll give you a reason.. It's because their support teams couldn't cope with the amount of idiots they'd get phoning them saying that their phone wasn't working anymore after they'd made a complete bodge of modding it.. Just like the guy above said..
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Anyone who posts a reason other than this is very naive.
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Exactly, their cash flows in from the devices they sell. If they support old products, they won`t sell new devices, so no cash.
Skye Menjou said:
It's to keep idiots out.
Look around the forum and look at the amount of "OMG I BRICKD DAT WILDFIRE CUZ I FLASHED TEH ROMS PLZ HALP" posts.
Apple always try to find a way against jailbreaking aswell.
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Fair point.
but they knows that if device is such superb, someone sometime find the way to get in...
its all about offer and demand..
and yes - every year new toy.. forget to previous and go forward...
thats the consume way of life.
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To sell newer products, thats why.
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I think so...
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Fair point.
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Second that.
People really ought to make sure they know what they are a\doing before they start messing around with technology and if they don't then they should leave it, the amount of posts i've seen on here about bricked wildfires is unreal
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People really ought to make sure they know what they are a\doing before they start messing around with technology and if they don't then they should leave it, the amount of posts i've seen on here about bricked wildfires is unreal
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But if they wouldn't lock the wildfire, the chance of getting your device bricked will be lower in my oppinion. The chance that a procedure fails is directly correlated with the amount of steps, and just because the phone is that locked, people have to do 1. a multitude of steps that 2. don't use software of the phone in the way its develloped to be used -> chance to brick your phone.
Compare it to a computer: ever bricked it because you wanted to install an new OS?
Erwin
That is true
Now, I want to change the phone, because I can't flash rom.
I think HD2 is a good.
HTC is not protecting wildfire so much.
They just want to check, how good team UNREVOKED is.
Or if they are better than similar product cracking team -> greenpois0n on apple iphone 4.2.1.
Me and my HTC:Wildfire "bee" xD trust in you UNREVOKED!
Is there any idea to downgrade?
I read on other forum...on Xperia X10 they finnaly got it
The bootloader has been bypassed using the kexec/miniloader method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12578251&postcount=849
[bootloader bypass guide and report thread][alfa release only!!!!][april 1rst]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12637163#post12637163
can anyone try the same method?
I'm hesitant of anything posted on April 1st, regardless of source! But I hope this works for the Atrix.
knigitz said:
I'm hesitant of anything posted on April 1st, regardless of source! But I hope this works for the Atrix.
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This is confirmed working guys.
See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDh4psrbb3c
YEAH, its true, many people have try...see the post reply after day 1 and video
soo, please, I think this can break the bootloader of our atrix, but I don't have acknolegement to do that
I assume Atrix has different type of bootloader than SE X10a
May try after final exam
ytwytw said:
I assume Atrix has different type of bootloader than SE X10a
May try after final exam
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You can't just run their script and make it work that way, their exploit would have to be ported to the Atrix.
Hope this works, may I remind any dev that the is a huge bounty for this.
Sent from Motorola Atrix on TELUS.
Maybe you should change your title to...
"Possible bootloader unlock method"
it would get more attention.
+1. Would bring much more positive attention to the thread.
RacecarBMW said:
Maybe you should change your title to...
"Possible bootloader unlock method"
it would get more attention.
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jeremyritzmann said:
+1. Would bring much more positive attention to the thread.
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And all the naysayers and impatient fools too, unfortunately. I just read this also, if it could be ported it may be a promising lead. I'm off to do a bit more digging
WOOOOOOO! thanx for posting this, hopefully this works, let's crack this bootloader and make these Atrix haters mad!
I consider that sugestion
also I will try use that method to crash bootloder....I have some help from my teacher xD...
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Maybe you should change your title to...
"Possible bootloader unlock method"
it would get more attention.
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G1-8701 said:
WOOOOOOO! thanx for posting this, hopefully this works, let's crack this bootloader and make these Atrix haters mad!
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theres no such thing as atrix haters , theres moto haters , I been a moto fan since the startac , truth is motorola has spit in our face since the days of EZX phone where they would always find a way to circumvent gpl , I wish I could have an atrix , but as long as its locked , not gnna happen , fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on me , I am very tempted but I wont jump in just yet , I heard Tegra is much less secure then omap so theres your chance but it be a good month or 3 or 4 before anything happens to that bootloader , thinking otherwise woudl be greatly under estimating Motorola ...
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fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on you
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Lol you might wanna correct that...
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Lol you might wanna correct that...
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Maybe he means... "fool me once, shame on (pause) you. You fool me you can't get fooled again." - GW Bush
Sorry hat to clutter this thread. Anyway, anyone got any reading material on this exploit done on the X10? I want to learn more about it.
Any Dev's care to comment on this?
DAGr8 said:
theres no such thing as atrix haters , theres moto haters , I been a moto fan since the startac , truth is motorola has spit in our face since the days of EZX phone where they would always find a way to circumvent gpl , I wish I could have an atrix , but as long as its locked , not gnna happen , fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on me , I am very tempted but I wont jump in just yet , I heard Tegra is much less secure then omap so theres your chance but it be a good month or 3 or 4 before anything happens to that bootloader , thinking otherwise woudl be greatly under estimating Motorola ...
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there are Atrix haters as well as moto haters, i've debated and well as read comments from quite a few of them, but people that have the wrong attitude and give up so easily on the phone ain't helping at all(or people that never had the phone to begin with), but i understand some people have their needs or wants in a phone and the atrix may not be it for them, but don't bash it just because you may not like it, never even owned it but have negative comments about it, have a defective device or whatever, and no i'm not saying that YOU have done any of this, but i'm tired of seeing it.....
but back to what this topic is actually about, hopefully this topic catches the devs attention
sooo.. ignoring the differences in architecture between omap and tegra, were the two bootloaders secured in the same fashion?> signed? signed and locked? locked?
DAGr8 said:
theres no such thing as atrix haters , theres moto haters , I been a moto fan since the startac , truth is motorola has spit in our face since the days of EZX phone where they would always find a way to circumvent gpl , I wish I could have an atrix , but as long as its locked , not gnna happen , fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on me , I am very tempted but I wont jump in just yet , I heard Tegra is much less secure then omap so theres your chance but it be a good month or 3 or 4 before anything happens to that bootloader , thinking otherwise woudl be greatly under estimating Motorola ...
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Even it takes 3 or 4 months it still gives us hope. I thought this whole signed bootloader mess was gonna be completely impossible! So I'm thrilled to hear this!
Nothing is impossible
Doesn't look like this is catching the eye of many people though, most likely from the 4/4 date.
Here you go guy's, just found this, maybe Sony should send them a Arc.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...bracing-hacker-community-for-galaxy-s2-963122
smartgardens said:
Here you go guy's, just found this, maybe Sony should send them a Arc.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...bracing-hacker-community-for-galaxy-s2-963122
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I'm sorry.. this whole post screams awesome.
My next smart phone will have to be a Samsung.
Haha this is the way to go!
OmegaRED^ said:
I'm sorry.. this whole post screams awesome.
My next smart phone will have to be a Samsung.
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Hey Omega,
My thoughts exactly, "awsome", what a way to go just a shame Sony can,t get there heads round treating it's customers right, i looked into the Arc, if i buy one i can unlock the bootloader, but then you read on its at the exspense of throwing away your warranty, they give with one hand and take with the other, i'm just thankful i only bought a phone from them and they never had my bank details.
For sure this is the best phone out with all that tech! 1.2 dual core, 1080p recoreding, 8mp camera, dnla, super amoled plus, gyroscope etc etc. It has a very impressive tech list and what I really like is how Samsung are sending it to cyanogenmod, possibley to remove the touch wiz ui and bring it closer to a native android feel or perhaps cyanogemod have something of their of own planned espicially for this ;-)
My only concearn and thing stopping me from rushing and buying one right now, is this phone ugly? I just find the general looks to be uninspiring and under stated. It just looks like bigger version of the iPhone.
I know that's quite a big contrast in my own opinion but if a phone like this existed but with arc looks or had game controls like a play then definately I'd be rushing out to get it now. I just feel Samsung should if made this phone pretty like our x10's which I reckon is still up their in best looking android phones.
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I agree completely that the biggest flaw of the gs2 is the crappy design and even crappier touch wiz iphone wannabe interface. You can always replace the home launcher and I am positive the share brute power and features will win you over faster than it takes the eye to blink.
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zodiac100 said:
I agree completely that the biggest flaw of the gs2 is the crappy design and even crappier touch wiz iphone wannabe interface. You can always replace the home launcher and I am positive the share brute power and features will win you over faster than it takes the eye to blink.
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I agree, the power in the samsung will win hands down and wait untill cyanogen mod have done there magic on it, who wants a pretty phone to look at with open bootloader and no warranty, sony are so out of touch.
smartgardens said:
Hey Omega,
My thoughts exactly, "awsome", what a way to go just a shame Sony can,t get there heads round treating it's customers right, i looked into the Arc, if i buy one i can unlock the bootloader, but then you read on its at the exspense of throwing away your warranty, they give with one hand and take with the other, i'm just thankful i only bought a phone from them and they never had my bank details.
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Reading the article, I don't see any mention that Samsung will allow its bootloader to be unlocked whilst retaining warranty. So at the end of the day, the 2 companies might still have the same policy.
hush66 said:
Reading the article, I don't see any mention that Samsung will allow its bootloader to be unlocked whilst retaining warranty. So at the end of the day, the 2 companies might still have the same policy.
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I think with all smart phones once you root your phone you violate your warranty, with Sony and the arc you have to give your IMIE number to unlock the bootloader, this then signs away your warranty for good there is no return buddy.
EDIT... AND here's the answer it already comes rooted and with warranty.
http://www.onthegosolutions.com/product.asp?itemMDL=SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S2_ROOT
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I think with all smart phones once you root your phone you violate your warranty, with Sony and the arc you have to give your IMIE number to unlock the bootloader, this then signs away your warranty for good there is no return buddy.
EDIT... AND here's the answer it already comes rooted and with warranty.
http://www.onthegosolutions.com/product.asp?itemMDL=SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S2_ROOT
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Well, you don't have to unlock the bootloader to root the arc.
And I just read through some reviews of the Galaxy S2 but none of them mentioned that it's shipped pre-rooted. I believe the online store you mentioned above rooted the phone before selling it to its consumers; perhaps the warranty it mentions is from them, not Samsung.
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Well, you don't have to unlock the bootloader to root the arc.
And I just read through some reviews of the Galaxy S2 but none of them mentioned that it's shipped pre-rooted. I believe the online store you mentioned above rooted the phone before selling it to its consumers; perhaps the warranty it mentions is from them, not SE.
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For your last sentance you mean Samsung not SE. I wish SE had a phone that good in 2011 range.
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Well, you don't have to unlock the bootloader to root the arc.
And I just read through some reviews of the Galaxy S2 but none of them mentioned that it's shipped pre-rooted. I believe the online store you mentioned above rooted the phone before selling it to its consumers; perhaps the warranty it mentions is from them, not SE.
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So just having the Arc rooted is going to release the full potential of that phone, don't think so buddy, just look whats happening to our x10 with the custom kernels around now.
What differance does it make who covers the warranty at least its got one unlike your Arc if you unlock the bootloader.
Lastly, as you have now got our best Dev over in the Arc forum, Jerpelea, you will miss out greatly if you do not unlock your bootloader, freexperia will live on in the Arc.
Bootloader already open......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046748
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For your last sentance you mean Samsung not SE.
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Sorry about that. Corrected.
smartgardens said:
So just having the Arc rooted is going to release the full potential of that phone, don't think so buddy, just look whats happening to our x10 with the custom kernels around now.
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I was merely addressing your statement "I think with all smart phones once you root your phone you violate your warranty, with Sony and the arc you have to give your IMIE number to unlock the bootloader, this then signs away your warranty for good there is no return buddy" which seems to imply one needs to unlock the bootloader to root the arc. And I didn't say that root will release the phone's full potential.
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Sorry about that. Corrected.
I was merely addressing your statement "I think with all smart phones once you root your phone you violate your warranty, with Sony and the arc you have to give your IMIE number to unlock the bootloader, this then signs away your warranty for good there is no return buddy" which seems to imply one needs to unlock the bootloader to root the arc. And I didn't say that root will release the phone's full potential.
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What you on about dude, read again, where do i say you have to unlock the bootloader to root the arc, its obvious as you have a arc that you are a fanboy and its that good you are here in a x10 forum, Sony do not give you nothing and never will, you have a company like samsung selling phones with the bootloader already unlocked and it kicks the ass off sony, to many cutomers have been and still are being let down by sony, only time will tell if they will ever change but i can't see it.
Thanks for the discussion, good luck with your arc but i not be following you to your forum for sure, not now i know if i want to use a arc and have the bootloader unlocked i sign away my warranty. The post was merely saying Samsung are leading the way, what i do not understand is why is not sony??
Design of SE + Hardware of Samsung + Sense of HTC = prefect phone ever!!!
This is what i expected...tat's all
XB_LI said:
Design of SE + Hardware of Samsung + Sense of HTC = prefect phone ever!!!
This is what i expected...tat's all
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Now your talking, that would be nice.
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smartgardens said:
I think with all smart phones once you root your phone you violate your warranty, with Sony and the arc you have to give your IMIE number to unlock the bootloader, this then signs away your warranty for good there is no return buddy.
EDIT... AND here's the answer it already comes rooted and with warranty.
http://www.onthegosolutions.com/product.asp?itemMDL=SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S2_ROOT
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Yea it only comes rooted because "On The Go Solutions" has rooted it for you.
It does not come pre-rooted with warranty from Samsung. So you would rely on the warranty that On The Go Solutions provide.
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Rooted Android 2.3 - You are in control!
Having an Android device with out Root is like having a computer with no password. We upgrade our devices before they go, giving you root access, for total control over your device.........
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Design of SE + Hardware of Samsung + Sense of HTC = prefect phone ever!!!
This is what i expected...tat's all
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personally I don't really like Sense. I found the X10's UX, and now the Arc's UX was very nice and clean, but had shortcomings like lag and 5 homescreen limit. I don't really like Sense's theme.
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Yea it only comes rooted because "On The Go Solutions" has rooted it for you.
It does not come pre-rooted with warranty from Samsung. So you would rely on the warranty that On The Go Solutions provide.
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But your missing the simple point - It's still got warranty and say like our x10 you only have to flash with seus and its back to stock, with the arc you sign away your warranty with your imie number, its not rocket science to know which phone you would choose is it.
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personally I don't really like Sense. I found the X10's UX, and now the Arc's UX was very nice and clean, but had shortcomings like lag and 5 homescreen limit. I don't really like Sense's theme.
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Sony's design + Samsung's hardware + CM(latest version) + Sony's UI
I contacted sony ericsson a few days ago and they contacted the global. They have now corrected their website and issued an apology. As this was only for the new line of xperias. The comment is on page 2.
http://www.sonyericsson.com/br/prev...10-ganhara-multitouch/comment-page-2#comments
Phillip says
Wow, really great news for us users of the X10, I thought 2011 would be clean in my X10.
Sony just to clarify this with my X10 MultiTouch will recognize more than TWO simultaneous touch right? Much better than the current DualTouch we have today.
SE Congratulations!!
Preview Sony Ericsson said: June 20, 2011, at 18:06.
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Hello Felipe, okay? The multitouch feature on devices equipped with Xperia line Android 2.3 supports four simultaneous touches on the screen.
A hug.
Preview Sony Ericsson said: July 13, 2011, at 15:01.
Hi Philip. Unfortunately, contrary to what reported in the Android 2.3 update for the X10 win dual touch. We apologize for the mistake, because we just validate the information with Sony Ericsson. Support for four rings is present in the new line of business, including neo Xperia models, and Play arc.
A hug.
NOW. i'm pissed off.
I was too. When he said that I got so pissed. I mean at least give us improved dual touch. Jeez
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Lion3494 said:
I was too. When he said that I got so pissed. I mean at least give us improved dual touch. Jeez
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well,what did you expect?thats obivious
josephnero said:
well,what did you expect?thats obivious
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What is?
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Bad news for you gamers, Personally pinch zoom is enough for me
riginal said:
Bad news for you gamers, Personally pinch zoom is enough for me
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Lol and I am a gamer. That's why I'm mad
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josephnero said:
well,what did you expect?thats obivious
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That SE hates the x10 and all it's users?
The worst thing is the hardware does not limit us.
If it was the touch pad then it would only make axis bugs if fingers were to cross.
In this case you don't even have to cross your fingers.
It just does it randomly and if you cross axis's.
It's just to make games that use dual directional controls useless.
SCREW YOU SE, SCREW YOU TO HELL.
OmegaRED^ said:
That SE hates the x10 and all it's users?
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Ikr. I mean the only thing we're really getting from this update is a camera. I mean come on.
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OmegaRED^ said:
That SE hates the x10 and all it's users?
The worst thing is the hardware does not limit us.
If it was the touch pad then it would only make axis bugs if fingers were to cross.
In this case you don't even have to cross your fingers.
It just does it randomly and if you cross axis's.
It's just to make games that use dual directional controls useless.
SCREW YOU SE, SCREW YOU TO HELL.
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I don't blame u at all. I'm mad too
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Lion3494 said:
Lol and I am a gamer. That's why I'm mad
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Yes, I know because I remember your posts about it, that's why I said you gamers
This is very depressing.
I think i'm going to go lie down and calm my self.
I just hope Z can figure out some way to get the MT chip flashed.
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Yes, I know because I remember your posts about it, that's why I said you gamers
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Lol yup. I was the most eager of us all. Well looks like my Gameloft games will have to suffer
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I will wait till GB arrives.
If there is no improvement to the dual touch.
"there will be hell to pay"
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I will wait till GB arrives.
If there is no improvement to the dual touch.
"there will be hell to pay"
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I'm telling you. I mean they had us pumped up. FOR A WHOLE FREAKING MONTH
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Lion3494 said:
I'm telling you. I mean they had us pumped up. FOR A WHOLE FREAKING MONTH
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It took them a entire month to correct false information on a website.
A ENTIRE MONTH.
It's more like false advertising than anything else.
I know right. It makes me mad I even asked them and provided them the website to report to global Sony. But I guess its better than being dissapointed
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Seriosly?
You guys can not be serious about beeing mad your not getting 4 point MT!?? SE already went way longer with this phone then originally planned, they said before release it was going to get 2.1, no more. And that it was a single touch phone, no more.. SE has done everything to please all the whiners out there (read in here)!! If you want the latest and greatest, BUY A NEW PHONE YOU CHEEP PRICKS! I´m happy with what my X10 has become. It's alot more phone then i paid for initially. OH, you guys still belive every word that pops out from SE Brazil? haha, thats funny
go ahead, bash me, go ahead and whine, please do, if it makes you feel better! Or grow up!
Tjotte said:
You guys can not be serious about beeing mad your not getting 4 point MT!?? SE already went way longer with this phone then originally planned, they said before release it was going to get 2.1, no more. And that it was a single touch phone, no more.. SE has done everything to please all the whiners out there (read in here)!! If you want the latest and greatest, BUY A NEW PHONE YOU CHEEP PRICKS! I´m happy with what my X10 has become. It's alot more phone then i paid for initially. OH, you guys still belive every word that pops out from SE Brazil? haha, thats funny
go ahead, bash me, go ahead and whine, please do, if it makes you feel better! Or grow up!
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There is no excuse to disable a good feature.
Or make a device uncomfortable to use. <<"it does not reflect well"
Unless it is for the money.
Why are you calling us pricks anyway? let me guess you have disposable income.
Also the phone was not cheap. but SE is.
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There is no excuse to disable a good feature.
Or make a device uncomfortable to use. <<"it does not reflect well"
Unless it is for the money.
Why are you calling us pricks anyway? let me guess you have disposable income.
Also the phone was not cheap. but SE is.
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What the hell?
Before this turns into a flamewar, I want to tell you:How are you sure that our device can even do multitouch at all??? The Nexus One, Desire all have the same buggy dualtouch we do, why should ours be different? How do you know that it's 'disabled', and not a hardware limitation, like it was in 2009?
You are just finding reasons to vent out your frustration on SE. You and Lion have whined about the update throughout this post, because of what? I NEVER trusted SE Brazil, these third world country company outlets more often than not don't know what they're saying, and are known to spread misinformation. If you guys took all the news with a grain of salt you wouldn't be dissapointed.
I've seen how you post in the forum. You are paranoid and critical of every small fault in this device. Just relax and be happy with what you get instead of being so angry all the time, you're also one of the catalysts of many flame wars because of your never ending quest to preach hatred towards SE. The disposable income comment was completely unnecessary. I also have disposable income. What are you trying to imply? See how you easily start flame wars?
@Lion. 'All that we are getting is camera'. Is that all? How about Gingerbread, facebook inside xperia, a new UI, and a lot of new apps? What else do you want?
Goddamnit people are hard to please. They take everyone's words for everything then get angry when it doesn't happen. They want more and more and more. At least be happy SE is giving us Gingerbread, instead of leaving us stuck with crappy 2.1.