Hey guys,
I guess I'd share this with you.
I sent a mail to SE asking them about a more specific explanation regarding the multi-touch function. I also asked them about if they plan to keep updating the Xperia after 2.1.
What they said in reply to the multi touch part is that the X10 handset does not support the MT feature.
"This requires two layers of the capacity screen for this feature to be added succesfully which the handset does not have. The handset only has one layer of capacitive touch screen."
I don't know about the technical stuff, so maybe somebody over here can confirm this.
Their reply to the update part was that they haven't got any further information regarding any other updates until after the release of the Android 2.1 update. So it is still a guess.
What they did say is that 2.1 will be released in the UK before the end of September. So it is indeed several weeks away, if they are telling the truth.
These subjects are getting annoying now i understand that MT is a feature that lots of people want but my question to these people is why didnt u buy a phone with MT in the first place now for the 2.1 update we know its coming very soon so just be patient its not that big a deal i love my x10 and if it wasnt getting 2.1 id still love it also as for updates after 2.1 y dnt u just wait and see we aint got 2.1 yet and ur already thinking about whats gonna happen after that anyway thats just my thoughts
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how about dual touch? does it require 2 layers of the capacity screen as well?
maybe we will get the missing layer by mail.
then we will have multitouch.
toonarmy85 said:
These subjects are getting annoying now i understand that MT is a feature that lots of people want but my question to these people is why didnt u buy a phone with MT in the first place now for the 2.1 update we know its coming very soon so just be patient its not that big a deal i love my x10 and if it wasnt getting 2.1 id still love it also as for updates after 2.1 y dnt u just wait and see we aint got 2.1 yet and ur already thinking about whats gonna happen after that anyway thats just my thoughts
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I believe a lot of people thought the lack of MT was probably due to 1.6 rather then SE deciding not to put in the hardware to support it. Who could blame them when devices from other companies had hardware support for MT well before the X10 came out. I bet a lot of people who bought the X10 were told that MT would be available with a software upgrade, hell even SE's US web site says the X10 has multi-touch.
I would love to know what the reasoning was behind not adding MT support. Was it SE saying we can get these hi res non MT screens for cheap, that no one wants & put them in our flagship Android device? If that is the case it makes me wonder if SE isn't on life support & desperate to cut corners anywhere they can to save money.
OMG, yet another MT topic, mods shuld really ban you guys, I would for sure, you are making this forum a junk forum, worst than spam topics !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758930&highlight=multitouch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756737&highlight=multitouch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=721323&highlight=multitouch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731521&highlight=multitouch
I really hope and hold my fingers crossed that we NEVER get MT on this X10 and that SE sends each of you whiners a private letter telling you that there wont be MT for X10...like it isnt bad that we wait 6 months for 2.1 like mentaly retarded fools are working for SE...
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I believe a lot of people thought the lack of MT was probably due to 1.6 rather then SE deciding not to put in the hardware to support it. Who could blame them when devices from other companies had hardware support for MT well before the X10 came out. I bet a lot of people who bought the X10 were told that MT would be available with a software upgrade, hell even SE's US web site says the X10 has multi-touch.
I would love to know what the reasoning was behind not adding MT support. Was it SE saying we can get these hi res non MT screens for cheap, that no one wants & put them in our flagship Android device? If that is the case it makes me wonder if SE isn't on life support & desperate to cut corners anywhere they can to save money.
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Ur probably right m8 but people should also look at specs and reviews before they rush out and spend tho i belive MT wasnt implemented because of apple and the recent law case against htc i think SE didnt want all the hassle but i could be wrong
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X10
I really dont care about 2.1 but it will be nice when it arrives and i absolutley love my X10 as it is so anything is a bonus ....... Toon toon black and white army !!!!! )
Everytime someone posts a topic about multitouch or 2.1, God kills a kitten.
Please, save the kittens!!
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Ur probably right m8 but people should also look at specs and reviews before they rush out and spend tho i belive MT wasnt implemented because of apple and the recent law case against htc i think SE didnt want all the hassle but i could be wrong
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The lawsuit stuff may be a reason not to include MT but that could be accomplished through software. If I was working at SE I would have included the hardware support & at least left the door open to turning on the support later. Doing it this way just makes SE look cheap IMO.
I don't find MT a very useful feature but one that doesn't get in my way when doing other things, so I'm indifferent to it.
I agree with others there is no need to have all these different threads all talking about MT.
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The lawsuit stuff may be a reason not to include MT but that could be accomplished through software. If I was working at SE I would have included the hardware support & at least left the door open to turning on the support later. Doing it this way just makes SE look cheap IMO.
I don't find MT a very useful feature but one that doesn't get in my way when doing other things, so I'm indifferent to it.
I agree with others there is no need to have all these different threads all talking about MT.
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I couldnt agree more SE obviously took the cheaper way out which was also easier for them but instead of this turning into a debatable thread i agree that there is no need for all these threads about the same two things maybe we should all concentrate on the things that made us all buy the x10
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Everytime someone posts a topic about multitouch or 2.1, God kills a kitten.
Please, save the kittens!!
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You just made my day. Lol
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maybe we will get the missing layer by mail.
then we will have multitouch.
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I assume that by "mail" you mean you mean through the post as clearly they couldn't email you another capacitative layer electronically?!!!
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Everytime someone posts a topic about multitouch or 2.1, God kills a kitten.
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Really?!... Think I might start a few multitouch debates then.. I don't think that this subject is being discussed nearly enough.. !!!!!!!!
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I assume that by "mail" you mean you mean through the post as clearly they couldn't email you another capacitative layer electronically?!!!
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Yes i ment by postal mail,but that was just a joke
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Yes i ment by postal mail,but that was just a joke
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and so was my reply.. maybe too subtle?!
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+1........
Pfff, you people should be happy you only hear this in the forum. Imagine living with a whiner. (me)
So kittens are killed hm? I don't care about that.
If it were puppies... but it's only about kittens
Even though it's worthless making a fuzz about it, since it doesn't change **** to the hardware of the x10 or SE implementing it sooner if possible.
Having that said, it is a disgrace that SE after almost 5 months since the release of the experia still dares to put up a big lie on their US website claiming the X10 does support multitouch. Such a thing is not an accident, the're not complete morrons at SE, it is purposely put there to mislead consumers into believing they are gonna be buying multitouch devices.
I'm really happy with my x10, but I find it a bit embarracing the way SE deals with information about the features and softwareupdates/bugfixes (like poor volume).
I think the people who care the most are those porn addicts who like to pinch and zoom the naked "whatever."
Please no more Kitten killings. Oops, I just did that.
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Cannot develop multirouch apps to x10?
You can create apps that use multitouch but since the X10 doesn't (or does it?) have the hardware to use it, it won't work. Right now, regardless of the hardware it won't work since the X10 has 1.6 Android.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/16/sony-ericsson-x10-can-do-multitouch-after-all-will-get-android/
Maybe its not a HW limitation, but we'll see how it'll go
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/16/sony-ericsson-x10-can-do-multitouch-after-all-will-get-android/
Maybe its not a HW limitation, but we'll see how it'll go
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Ha! I was just about to post it. Great news, eh.
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Ha! I was just about to post it. Great news, eh.
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And SE has come back and said they have no idea where Engadget is getting this info, as they've stated numerous times that the hardware is MT incapable. Sorry.
saltorio said:
And SE has come back and said they have no idea where Engadget is getting this info, as they've stated numerous times that the hardware is MT incapable. Sorry.
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And yet still I don't feel confident in the statements. They also stated "numerous times" that it would be MT capable. Every time anyone asks them what hardware is used they refuse to answer.
The guy posting to the se blog seems like a manager to me, if you read his posts. No-one really technical has actually said anything on-record.
I'm gonna reserve judgement until it's rooted. I'm sure the first thing many people will try is the G1 MT hack.
Geoff
Currently torn between the X10 and the Desire. MT would swing it.
I was checking out this handset when I came across this thread then found this article
T3:Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 to get Android 2.1 update
They have the info from the same source, so this article doesn't make it more likely to be true.
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Hello guys...
I'm only asking this because I just bought the phone 4 days ago, and I can still send it back, and go for the HTC Desire (which I think i should have done at first place...)
Is root achievable? I mean, you guys are trying to get root or you WILL get root?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not rushing you guys! I just want to make sure before I give this phone back...
Btw, if u guys need something, I'm here to help, anything u guys need to test, i can test it on my phone....
Thanks!
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Hello guys...
I'm only asking this because I just bought the phone 4 days ago, and I can still send it back, and go for the HTC Desire (which I think i should have done at first place...)
Is root achievable? I mean, you guys are trying to get root or you WILL get root?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not rushing you guys! I just want to make sure before I give this phone back...
Btw, if u guys need something, I'm here to help, anything u guys need to test, i can test it on my phone....
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as of right now who knows it could be days month years who knows when, your better off with the HTC,
man your guess is as good as mine.. starting to get frustrating.. I might go and switch to the desire as well..
Faith keeps me strong! lol
you should consider the change, you shouldn't count with the root in your decision since nobody knows when. but ill tell u something:
- I much prefer LED than AMOLED (Desire). Although LED is "spender", uses more battery and less "vivid, when you are out, just under the sun rays, on AMOLED screens you don't see any bit... moreover it's 4'' versus 3.7
- Although Desire camera still being good, Xperia is awesome.....
- i'd like more stetically speaking Xperia than Desire. Although i dont like so much physical bottons on the bottom
For me it's not the end the rooting... Im still having all the programs I need and use more often (copilot, sport tracker, music player, browser and mail. for me it's enough). stetically 2.1 and 1.6 are the same, and for me doesnt provide us that much more everybody speaks about....
If i could choose i'd prefer nexus one, i'd like more the shape of the bottom part, more rounded and i think fits better on a single hand (xperia could result a bit difficult)
I wouldn't pay many more for the trade....
what do you want root for ?
is it only for tethering, installing new firmware and some more fluff ?
Stick with your x10 if it is only for those 2 reasons. You can tether with some payd software ( free if you don't use any sort protected connection , https )
you're gonna maybe impress your friends for a minute or 2 and you will get sick of changing firmware every single days
magic/dream favorite users firmware = cyanogen rom because it simple , fast and no fluff
you won't care about 2.2 fluff after a week or 2
you won't impress any girls with some soft fluff. You're phone body AND your own body might impress girls
Now
a good reason to go with another phone might something like mini usb ? do you like mini usb ?
Finally
XPERIA X10 General
Discussion about the Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 (general Q&A, tips & tricks)
it depends on your needs ,x10 recently has no root and may be forever ,but it is a good pice of hardware better than desire in every point of comparison but the problem that will face the x10 may be in the coming few monthes is the support allot of apps are going to require android 2.1 as a minimum requirement ,and as we all know sony will not update until the end of the year and for 2.1 only ,at this time all phones will be carring 2.2 and may be 2.3 so you will face compitability issues again ,if you care for a long time support that is achived by root then go for desire ,if not and you care more for hardware go for x10 . best wishes with your choice
There is more than meets the eye with 2.1 and especially 2.2. instead of just extra fluffiness.
The question here is if anyone is working on rooting X10. I don't miss to many functionalities anyway, the only thing I am scared is that 1.6 will be less and less supported with new applications in the market. By that time hopefully 2.1 will appear.
Mugur
http://mugur-ionescu.ro/tag/xperia
Relax.root will be here this weekend.
Nostradamus
HELLO?? android 2.2... there are so many improvements over 1.6 for eg. support for FLASH!
removing all the random sh*t that SE has put like moxier etc. And the sheer joy of having better faster and sleeker roms which will really take the x10 to a whole new level.
I love my x10 and inspite of ppl telling me otherwise, i think its a great phone with immense potential. But as I see it, we're using the phone at 50% capacity.
For ppl who dont think root is important, you dont know wat ur talkin about.
nosidefcp said:
Relax.root will be here this weekend.
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Just another failed prediction for u eh Nostra.. lol
nosidefcp said:
Relax.root will be here this weekend.
Nostradamus
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it seems not . we are still far away from root . please don't post fake posts ,people may believe you
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it seems not . we are still far away from root . please don't post fake posts ,people may believe you
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+1 to you guy.
I guess you guys don't get the irony in this post?! You are so obsessed with that root??! Relax. Apparently SE have done good job securing the device. I wish they have spent their efforts making software it runs as good as the security is... No root would have been necessary then
leobg said:
I guess you guys don't get the irony in this post?! You are so obsessed with that root??! Relax. Apparently SE have done good job securing the device. I wish they have spent their efforts making software it runs as good as the security is... No root would have been necessary then
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I found teh irony when I read the ashman's post, after I posted ^^
What i want from root is to take out from my phone all the SE rubbish that came with the phone like Moxier and the rest... and also to run better roms, that will run faster and better on this phone than this crap that came loaded into it..
Last but not the least, be capable of running the software at full capacity, ie, all the memory that this phone have... i don't see any reason why SE have released a phone with that amount of memory with a software that doesn't support it... some may say that SE were thinking on the upgrade to 2.1 at the end of the year, but wait, WHY THE HECK do i have to wait till the end of the year to have an OS that will be already obsolete by then...
The only reason I'm keeping this phone, is because it is an awesome piece of hardware... i really like it.. although I'm gonna really regret it when i find out that SE was lying when said that they are working on the battery life issues...
I really hope that they change their mind and upgrade it to 2.2 or even 2.3 if it is avaiable...
And also hope that it doesn't come loaded with their stuff, like timescape and moxier... i just want the clean and pure Android OS, without any additional crap... I know that it will only be achieved by root anyways... IF root comes...
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might be a big IF
i simply do not understand why those big companies made such phones... neither is perfect... and why is that? don't they have resources?... i am so frustrated!
^ Dude its market strategy. If they make the "perfect" Phone. No one will buy the other phones they got. It's marketing style for MONEY
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Relax.root will be here this weekend.
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Priceless mate, thanks for the laugh.
Hey all,
Latest xperia x10 update solved all problems, yesterday I was looking at one of the topics on how to make my xperia x10 multi touch, when I connected my phone SE PC Suit indicated that there is an update, so I did it. It was for the multi touch.
The funny part is that about two months ago I was trying to enable Arabic, today I realized that the Arabic font has changed, and I thought that the update was also for languages, guess what.. IT DID, now I have Arabic, multi touch and god knows what else.
I just wanted to share this information with you guys and ask you, if the same thing about the Arabic happened (or will be) on the HTC Desire HD?
There's a rom by Lee that supports arabic fonts. It's called LeeDroid ARA.
Anyway I didn't notice any improvement with the latest x10 firmware. Kernel sucks as usual
Honestly... how much is Sony Ericsson pays u to say good things abt them here?
OUT WITH IT!!!
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nonentity said:
Honestly... how much is Sony Ericsson pays u to say good things abt them here?
OUT WITH IT!!!
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Depends on how much other competitive companies pay you to say bad things about SE
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not being rude but everyone has had mutli touch and so on months ago. you're a bit late.
mabaalkheil said:
Hey all,
Latest xperia x10 update solved all problems, yesterday I was looking at one of the topics on how to make my xperia x10 multi touch, when I connected my phone SE PC Suit indicated that there is an update, so I did it. It was for the multi touch.
The funny part is that about two months ago I was trying to enable Arabic, today I realized that the Arabic font has changed, and I thought that the update was also for languages, guess what.. IT DID, now I have Arabic, multi touch and god knows what else.
I just wanted to share this information with you guys and ask you, if the same thing about the Arabic happened (or will be) on the HTC Desire HD?
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you're a bit late for the information.
1st, its not a Multi Touch its a Dual Touch
2nd not all has been fix yet, In-call audio is not been fix...
MJ_QaT said:
Depends on how much other competitive companies pay you to say bad things about SE
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well said !!!! +1
Ok i don't want to say bad things about SE
As a Xperia X10 user, i disappointed on this SE news:
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/02/25/questions-and-answers-from-mwc2011/comment-page-1/#comments
From now on, if there is no good HTC phone, i will buy SS, SE can't make a smart phone. SE made well cyber-shot phone, walkman phone, but smart phone always need update.
An other thing...
To call it multitouch, is quite a stretch....
It is at most bad implemented crappy not functional DUAL touch...
Clearly you have never tried real multitouch...
Do your self a huge favour and buy a HTC, and you WILL discover the difference...
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For me, I like my white X10, I can't find anything like it on HTC or Samsung, which a lot of people here are praising. Stop crying on your wrong choice, SE got your money already, just move on. Ha! Ha! Ha!
My SE phones always functions correctly, what I hear about Samung/HTC phones is not positive. They dont always function correct. So I'm happy with my x10! And the dual touch works perfect. And yes I already used some real multi touch on other smartphones.
PLEASE DEVELOPERS CRACK THE BOOTLOADER!! YOU GUYS ARE OUR ONLY HOPE!
Lol that's bs... I had a htc hero before this and my gf has a desire z. Htc phones work just as well, maybe even better.
The only reason I switched was because I got my x10 for a really good price and because of the bigger processor.
@MJ_QaT: If that's the case why dun u ask ur dear SE to release 2.2 or 2.3 updates as we r already 2 steps behind and 2.1 apps r getting obsoleted, as well as releasing the bootloader and FPS while u r at it...
If SE releases all these, then I'll agree wif u abt their update services... until then, I keep talking bad abt them for other companies FOR FREE!!!
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nonentity said:
@MJ_QaT: If that's the case why dun u ask ur dear SE to release 2.2 or 2.3 updates as we r already 2 steps behind and 2.1 apps r getting obsoleted, as well as releasing the bootloader and FPS while u r at it...
If SE releases all these, then I'll agree wif u abt their update services... until then, I keep talking bad abt them for other companies FOR FREE!!!
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So you are the victim? Um, pretty much every android gets one major OS upgrade, including HTC and Samsung, so the problem is that you made the wrong purchase. If having the latest OS version was so important, why did you buy the x10 which came with 1.6 and said "updateable to 2.1"?
agentJBM said:
So you are the victim? Um, pretty much every android gets one major OS upgrade, including HTC and Samsung, so the problem is that you made the wrong purchase. If having the latest OS version was so important, why did you buy the x10 which came with 1.6 and said "updateable to 2.1"?
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Seriously, it is the shape and size and the way it fits on my palm... why did I buy when it already said upgradeable to 2.1? It didn't... when I bought it, it was just 1.6... when u bought the win 7, does it says that it will be upgradable to sp1 or 2? That's the same reason...
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Seriously, it is the shape and size and the way it fits on my palm... why did I buy when it already said upgradeable to 2.1? It didn't... when I bought it, it was just 1.6... when u bought the win 7, does it says that it will be upgradable to sp1 or 2? That's the same reason...
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That was my point. You bought it with 1.6(updateable to 2.1), so why are you whining about 2.2+?
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That was my point. You bought it with 1.6(updateable to 2.1), so why are you whining about 2.2+?
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The same reason when win7 sp1 was not distributed... and more and more softwares r starting to be obsoleting on 2.1... and if X10i is not on android platform, I wouldn't even bother to stop by and take a look...
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It solved nothing. I appreciate the improvements to mediascape, but the phone for me is a heck of alot slower. The Dual touch is basically useless and now my phone restarts constantly.
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@MJ_QaT: If that's the case why dun u ask ur dear SE to release 2.2 or 2.3 updates as we r already 2 steps behind and 2.1 apps r getting obsoleted, as well as releasing the bootloader and FPS while u r at it...
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Alright, will that be with tomato or without?
If SE releases all these, then I'll agree wif u abt their update services... until then, I keep talking bad abt them for other companies FOR FREE!!!
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Just a phone man
and regarding their updating service they will provide it up to two years from production, but it doesn't mean they will Upgrade the OS to latest, it only means that if there were a bug to fix, they will release and update to fix it.
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Just a phone man
and regarding their updating service they will provide it up to two years from production, but it doesn't mean they will Upgrade the OS to latest, it only means that if there were a bug to fix, they will release and update to fix it.
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By buying the phone, at the same time, r we not buying their services as well as their brands? Look at X2 for an instance... that phone was a total failure which only receive few updates and hangs even more than the earlier update...
I really hope that u r right man and also hoping that history dun repeat itself... if not, they are just saving the lastest for their next phone in order to market it...
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As u know x10 mini pro gets this driver and as I understood it works even better than our dt (it's real dt/MT) the question is is there any chance to have it on our x10?
Did u ever played a gameloft game which needs dt?in this case u will feel the lack of real dt.
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If mini gets real mt we will get it also at least i hope so.
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I believe that if mt was possible then we would of already had it. Its been said over and over again that the x10 can't support mt.
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I believe that if mt was possible then we would of already had it. Its been said over and over again that the x10 can't support mt.
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Well only SE knows the truth about that.
And until they stop hiding the all the info from us.
We may never know.
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If mini gets real mt we will get it also at least i hope so.
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Why would that matter the hardware is completely different..
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I believe that if mt was possible then we would of already had it. Its been said over and over again that the x10 can't support mt.
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They originally said dt was not possible either so...
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AyDee said:
They originally said dt was not possible either so...
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Yes and managed to give us buggy dual touch. If it is a huge conspiracy then why did they even give us the buggy dual touch? Why not just maintain that anything other than single touch was impossible?
Erm, did I say one word about conspiracy? Simply stating a fact relative to the topic.
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Yes and managed to give us buggy dual touch. If it is a huge conspiracy then why did they even give us the buggy dual touch? Why not just maintain that anything other than single touch was impossible?
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That my friend is simple.
There was a huge out cry for MT.
But if they gave us proper MT then buying a arc, play or neo.
Would seem less viable.
OmegaRED^ said:
That my friend is simple.
There was a huge out cry for MT.
But if they gave us proper MT then buying a arc, play or neo.
Would seem less viable.
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There was no huge outcry....
People thought that it wasn't possible, they were upset but there was no huge outcry at all
Why would there be an outcry for something you didn't think was possible?
If anything se willingly came our about the dual touch upgrade possibility without any pressure.
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There was no huge outcry....
People thought that it wasn't possible, they were upset but there was no huge outcry at all
Why would there be an outcry for something you didn't think was possible?
If anything se willingly came our about the dual touch upgrade possibility without any pressure.
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Did you read any of the blog comments?
Even the one's SE deleted?
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What seems like an eternity ago, the X10 was announced with a capacitive screen but no support for multitouch and was met with incessant rants from users all demanding the same thing in rather an “Attack Of The Clones”. Sony Ericsson suffered greatly with negative reviews flowing in, not helped by the outdated OS, and it seemed the “Revenge Of The SE-haters” was stronger than ever. However, keen fans were offered “A New Hope” when Sony Ericsson suggested via their blog that the feature would be added in future updates:
“Xperia X10 has a capacitive screen. It does not support multi-touch functionality at launch, but is considered for the future.”
Sumit Malhotra
That hope was soon dashed though as the “Empire Struck Back” when SE stated that the X10 would not be receiving multitouch and lacked support for the feature through both software and hardware limitations:
“I don’t have any technical details around the screen to share, sorry! – However I have now gotten confirmation on the question of multi touch. As said earlier there’s no multitouch in X10 – and I also can confirm that it’s not only related to SW but also to HW.”
Rikard Skogberg
It appeared all hope was lost as without hardware support there was surely no way back but on a remote moon some determined hackers were not about to give up and managed to make rudimentary multitouch gestures work on the X10. SE apparently noticed this and decided, not to be shown up by the community, that they should get in on the act themselves which brings us officially to the “Return Of The Multitouch”!
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http://blog.se-nse.net/xperia-x10-to-officially-receive-multitouch-support/
like I said though people were definitely upset but I hardly saw a huge outcry, not like the one there was for support past 2.1 anyhow.
Regardless, if we could even improve this dual touch I would be happy, playing games us brutal when one of the controls either sticks or doesn't respond..
Thanx all 4 the infos.
So as I understood the x10 hardware doesnt support it but isn't it strange that x10 mini pro have it and our x10 with same genre doesn't??
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mohsentz said:
Thanx all 4 the infos.
So as I understood the x10 hardware doesnt support it but isn't it strange that x10 mini pro have it and our x10 with same genre doesn't??
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You would think they put better hardware in the x10. Being more expensive
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rtblittlebrown said:
You would think they put better hardware in the x10. Being more expensive
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Didn't they just get better dual touch, with some effort we could probably get the same..
Unfortunately I don't know much programing
Even if it's just 2 touches without the jittery jumpy crap.
I will be completely happy with my x10.
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I just find it odd that the x10 being way more expensive and the x10 mini being cheaper.
Well you get the point.. why would it be weaker?
OmegaRED^ said:
Even if it's just 2 touches without the jittery jumpy crap.
I will be completely happy with my x10.
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I just find it odd that the x10 being way more expensive and the x10 mini being cheaper.
Well you get the point.. why would it be weaker?
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I agree completely two touches with no bugs and I would be fully satisfied..
The new better dt wasn't directly from se though was it? Maybe ask the programmers what they did to fix it
Here's the thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064558
I contacted sony ericsson a few days ago and they contacted the global. They have now corrected their website and issued an apology. As this was only for the new line of xperias. The comment is on page 2.
http://www.sonyericsson.com/br/prev...10-ganhara-multitouch/comment-page-2#comments
Phillip says
Wow, really great news for us users of the X10, I thought 2011 would be clean in my X10.
Sony just to clarify this with my X10 MultiTouch will recognize more than TWO simultaneous touch right? Much better than the current DualTouch we have today.
SE Congratulations!!
Preview Sony Ericsson said: June 20, 2011, at 18:06.
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Hello Felipe, okay? The multitouch feature on devices equipped with Xperia line Android 2.3 supports four simultaneous touches on the screen.
A hug.
Preview Sony Ericsson said: July 13, 2011, at 15:01.
Hi Philip. Unfortunately, contrary to what reported in the Android 2.3 update for the X10 win dual touch. We apologize for the mistake, because we just validate the information with Sony Ericsson. Support for four rings is present in the new line of business, including neo Xperia models, and Play arc.
A hug.
NOW. i'm pissed off.
I was too. When he said that I got so pissed. I mean at least give us improved dual touch. Jeez
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Lion3494 said:
I was too. When he said that I got so pissed. I mean at least give us improved dual touch. Jeez
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well,what did you expect?thats obivious
josephnero said:
well,what did you expect?thats obivious
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What is?
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Bad news for you gamers, Personally pinch zoom is enough for me
riginal said:
Bad news for you gamers, Personally pinch zoom is enough for me
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Lol and I am a gamer. That's why I'm mad
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josephnero said:
well,what did you expect?thats obivious
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That SE hates the x10 and all it's users?
The worst thing is the hardware does not limit us.
If it was the touch pad then it would only make axis bugs if fingers were to cross.
In this case you don't even have to cross your fingers.
It just does it randomly and if you cross axis's.
It's just to make games that use dual directional controls useless.
SCREW YOU SE, SCREW YOU TO HELL.
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That SE hates the x10 and all it's users?
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Ikr. I mean the only thing we're really getting from this update is a camera. I mean come on.
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OmegaRED^ said:
That SE hates the x10 and all it's users?
The worst thing is the hardware does not limit us.
If it was the touch pad then it would only make axis bugs if fingers were to cross.
In this case you don't even have to cross your fingers.
It just does it randomly and if you cross axis's.
It's just to make games that use dual directional controls useless.
SCREW YOU SE, SCREW YOU TO HELL.
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I don't blame u at all. I'm mad too
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Lion3494 said:
Lol and I am a gamer. That's why I'm mad
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Yes, I know because I remember your posts about it, that's why I said you gamers
This is very depressing.
I think i'm going to go lie down and calm my self.
I just hope Z can figure out some way to get the MT chip flashed.
riginal said:
Yes, I know because I remember your posts about it, that's why I said you gamers
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Lol yup. I was the most eager of us all. Well looks like my Gameloft games will have to suffer
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I will wait till GB arrives.
If there is no improvement to the dual touch.
"there will be hell to pay"
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I will wait till GB arrives.
If there is no improvement to the dual touch.
"there will be hell to pay"
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I'm telling you. I mean they had us pumped up. FOR A WHOLE FREAKING MONTH
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Lion3494 said:
I'm telling you. I mean they had us pumped up. FOR A WHOLE FREAKING MONTH
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It took them a entire month to correct false information on a website.
A ENTIRE MONTH.
It's more like false advertising than anything else.
I know right. It makes me mad I even asked them and provided them the website to report to global Sony. But I guess its better than being dissapointed
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Seriosly?
You guys can not be serious about beeing mad your not getting 4 point MT!?? SE already went way longer with this phone then originally planned, they said before release it was going to get 2.1, no more. And that it was a single touch phone, no more.. SE has done everything to please all the whiners out there (read in here)!! If you want the latest and greatest, BUY A NEW PHONE YOU CHEEP PRICKS! I´m happy with what my X10 has become. It's alot more phone then i paid for initially. OH, you guys still belive every word that pops out from SE Brazil? haha, thats funny
go ahead, bash me, go ahead and whine, please do, if it makes you feel better! Or grow up!
Tjotte said:
You guys can not be serious about beeing mad your not getting 4 point MT!?? SE already went way longer with this phone then originally planned, they said before release it was going to get 2.1, no more. And that it was a single touch phone, no more.. SE has done everything to please all the whiners out there (read in here)!! If you want the latest and greatest, BUY A NEW PHONE YOU CHEEP PRICKS! I´m happy with what my X10 has become. It's alot more phone then i paid for initially. OH, you guys still belive every word that pops out from SE Brazil? haha, thats funny
go ahead, bash me, go ahead and whine, please do, if it makes you feel better! Or grow up!
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There is no excuse to disable a good feature.
Or make a device uncomfortable to use. <<"it does not reflect well"
Unless it is for the money.
Why are you calling us pricks anyway? let me guess you have disposable income.
Also the phone was not cheap. but SE is.
OmegaRED^ said:
There is no excuse to disable a good feature.
Or make a device uncomfortable to use. <<"it does not reflect well"
Unless it is for the money.
Why are you calling us pricks anyway? let me guess you have disposable income.
Also the phone was not cheap. but SE is.
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What the hell?
Before this turns into a flamewar, I want to tell you:How are you sure that our device can even do multitouch at all??? The Nexus One, Desire all have the same buggy dualtouch we do, why should ours be different? How do you know that it's 'disabled', and not a hardware limitation, like it was in 2009?
You are just finding reasons to vent out your frustration on SE. You and Lion have whined about the update throughout this post, because of what? I NEVER trusted SE Brazil, these third world country company outlets more often than not don't know what they're saying, and are known to spread misinformation. If you guys took all the news with a grain of salt you wouldn't be dissapointed.
I've seen how you post in the forum. You are paranoid and critical of every small fault in this device. Just relax and be happy with what you get instead of being so angry all the time, you're also one of the catalysts of many flame wars because of your never ending quest to preach hatred towards SE. The disposable income comment was completely unnecessary. I also have disposable income. What are you trying to imply? See how you easily start flame wars?
@Lion. 'All that we are getting is camera'. Is that all? How about Gingerbread, facebook inside xperia, a new UI, and a lot of new apps? What else do you want?
Goddamnit people are hard to please. They take everyone's words for everything then get angry when it doesn't happen. They want more and more and more. At least be happy SE is giving us Gingerbread, instead of leaving us stuck with crappy 2.1.