Why is HTC protecting wildfire so much - Wildfire General

After the release of the wildfire it took a unusual amount of time to root and now the hboot has been changed to prevent rooting I ask the question why the consumer should have the right to run roms that suits them best I refer to geohotz jailbreak with the iPhone
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To sell newer products, thats why.

Alex_GP said:
To sell newer products, thats why.
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yeah i agree, they want to sell you newer devices with new android versions. they must also be pretty mad about the hacked app markets

Its the solemn duty p) of a company to protect its products. No product I believe has a weak security system, and, its always a cat and mouse game between the devs and the company devs. Be it iOS, Symbian, Game Consoles.. etc.
No one likes to see their product "hacked" and to be used in a manner better than it was intended to.

As far as I know the Nokia N900 and LiMo devices are very open to hacking, very much unlike Android, webOS and iOS phones.

Why would anyone protect their properties

Also maybe cos they were planning for Gingerbread release on the Wildfire, and by then they want all devices to be hackproof or something.. jus maybe..

It's to keep idiots out.
Look around the forum and look at the amount of "OMG I BRICKD DAT WILDFIRE CUZ I FLASHED TEH ROMS PLZ HALP" posts.
Apple always try to find a way against jailbreaking aswell.

Alex_GP said:
To sell newer products, thats why.
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Anyone who posts a reason other than this is very naive.

I'll give you a reason.. It's because their support teams couldn't cope with the amount of idiots they'd get phoning them saying that their phone wasn't working anymore after they'd made a complete bodge of modding it.. Just like the guy above said..
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ChrisPNE said:
Anyone who posts a reason other than this is very naive.
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Exactly, their cash flows in from the devices they sell. If they support old products, they won`t sell new devices, so no cash.

Skye Menjou said:
It's to keep idiots out.
Look around the forum and look at the amount of "OMG I BRICKD DAT WILDFIRE CUZ I FLASHED TEH ROMS PLZ HALP" posts.
Apple always try to find a way against jailbreaking aswell.
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Fair point.

but they knows that if device is such superb, someone sometime find the way to get in...
its all about offer and demand..
and yes - every year new toy.. forget to previous and go forward...
thats the consume way of life.

Alex_GP said:
To sell newer products, thats why.
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I think so...

n!k said:
Fair point.
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Second that.

People really ought to make sure they know what they are a\doing before they start messing around with technology and if they don't then they should leave it, the amount of posts i've seen on here about bricked wildfires is unreal

Petem661 said:
People really ought to make sure they know what they are a\doing before they start messing around with technology and if they don't then they should leave it, the amount of posts i've seen on here about bricked wildfires is unreal
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But if they wouldn't lock the wildfire, the chance of getting your device bricked will be lower in my oppinion. The chance that a procedure fails is directly correlated with the amount of steps, and just because the phone is that locked, people have to do 1. a multitude of steps that 2. don't use software of the phone in the way its develloped to be used -> chance to brick your phone.
Compare it to a computer: ever bricked it because you wanted to install an new OS?
Erwin

That is true
Now, I want to change the phone, because I can't flash rom.
I think HD2 is a good.

HTC is not protecting wildfire so much.
They just want to check, how good team UNREVOKED is.
Or if they are better than similar product cracking team -> greenpois0n on apple iphone 4.2.1.

Me and my HTC:Wildfire "bee" xD trust in you UNREVOKED!
Is there any idea to downgrade?

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Claims of WP7 from Tom_Codon march 2010

Well were coming up to to the month milestone of when Tom dropped the news of having WP7 running on his HD2.
I know I will get flamed for this, but I am niave and a part of me still despite no real proof being given, is hoping.
It would be great if we got some news/proof at the end of this month.
Seg
da_g and chainfire have stated this exists....
that's plenty of proof in my book imho
please people, let it go....nobody was gonna get wp7 on the hd2 before the news and so there is no difference if it was all a lie...
that said, i do belive in it, reputable people have said its true. just enjoy the damn device and when wp7 comes, it will come, and i would like to see a thread with all the non belivers apologising
I know some good reputable ppl have clearly stated that its true. I am not doubting them for a minute. I personally expected to hear or see something else since the initial statement. I do enjoy my device, I just love trying new things.
The conversation surrounding this, had died a little lately, so I thought I would spark up some more interesting conversation/debate.
Seg
Seg2009 said:
I know some good reputable ppl have clearly stated that its true. I am not doubting them for a minute. I personally expected to hear or see something else since the initial statement. I do enjoy my device, I just love trying new things.
The conversation surrounding this, had died a little lately, so I thought I would spark up some more interesting conversation/debate.
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Thats my oppinion.. but seems there is nothing you can do besides wait.
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Thats my oppinion.. but seems there is nothing you can do besides wait.
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I know mate. Thats the hardest part, waiting. Even more so, with no more information.
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Seg2009 said:
I know mate. Thats the hardest part, waiting. Even more so, with no more information.
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I do feel the same way, totaly
It's in a way like christmas when I was young besides.. you knew when it would be
// I btw don't think this is leading us anywhere..
But thats just it, how can you EXPECT something from somebody when they dont owe you anything? you can expect customer service from HTC, or expect an official statement from HTC about wp7 (which we got), but you cant expect news about someones personal project...you arent paying them, they are doing it out the kindness of the heart and the passion they have for this phone...
well thats my opinion for example...i fix my friend's and family's computers from time to time for no charge. nobody can expect me to fix it in any reasonable time frame, nor even even expect it to be fixed at all, even if i say i can. if they do, then its really unnappretiative and its quite hurtful. alot of people did ***** about the videos of wp7 on the hd2, if it was me, i wouldnt even bother giving it to anyone, just on the fact that so many people grinded me down about it.
domineus said:
da_g and chainfire have stated this exists....
that's plenty of proof in my book imho
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I know that there is written record of da_g saying that. Is there one for Chainfire also? I thought that was just an unrecorded chat.
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But thats just it, how can you EXPECT something from somebody when they dont owe you anything? you can expect customer service from HTC, or expect an official statement from HTC about wp7 (which we got), but you cant expect news about someones personal project...you arent paying them, they are doing it out the kindness of the heart and the passion they have for this phone...
well thats my opinion for example...i fix my friend's and family's computers from time to time for no charge. nobody can expect me to fix it in any reasonable time frame, nor even even expect it to be fixed at all, even if i say i can. if they do, then its really unnappretiative and its quite hurtful. alot of people did ***** about the videos of wp7 on the hd2, if it was me, i wouldnt even bother giving it to anyone, just on the fact that so many people grinded me down about it.
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I think you have mis-interpreted my use of the the word "Expected" by this I meant "Hoped" or "Thought"
I do agree with you though, they don't owe us anything, and after the slagging off that some guys gave them, I would say F off to everyone.
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ah ok, well yeh one can hope for it, thats all good! even i hope for it! well actually i dunno, when they said wp6 and wm6.5 isnt interchangeable made me decide not to go with wp7. but still, id love to see it! but even if they lied (which i keep stressing i dont think they are!), i wouldnt think less of them, none of us are really gettin affected and we have got alot from them anyway with wm6.5
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I know that there is written record of da_g saying that. Is there one for Chainfire also? I thought that was just an unrecorded chat.
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yeah I asked him last week in a podcast he visited on ppcgeeks...said a lot including a test rom for tg01 which also makes a lot of sense. I've said on htcpedia that I wouldn't be surprised the devices we see in the fall are very similar to devices released LAST year with minor improvements in hardware (if that)
If the htc touch hd2 and the g01 were the true test devices that wp7 was based on, then as a developer I'd just go hey why do I need to make a new device? Use the old internals and I have a wp7 device. I think for early devices that's what is going to happen but again that's just my speculation on htc and toshiba. Dell et al probably have devices built from the ground up...
I mean I want to try wp7 too and its looking better and more fluid every single day that gives me hope that microsoft has made a better "coded" os that when unlocked will actually be more open than the devices we have right now. To get to that point will take time, but that's what xda is for. I mean zune hd is hacked, I expect wp7 to be hacked too. just depends on time and devices
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hoping this conversation remains civil because so far no flames no claims of it was publicity and I said on htcpedia again why does a site like that need publicity it averages in US daytime 250 members per hour! late night 125! a site like that doesn't need real advertising.
We can't say its an april fool either that's come and gone. so the only other logical outcome is that it exists there are some issues (lo and behold tom said there were graphics issues)
so I am waiting enjoying wp 6.5
Does anyone actually know Tom or Da_G or ITJE? Could they ask them for an update? Anything is better than nothing.
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Seg2009 said:
Does anyone actually know Tom or Da_G or ITJE? Could they ask them for an update? Anything is better than nothing.
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I asked Itje a while ago, he doesn't know anything and told me that it is all up to tom and his team.
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I asked Itje a while ago, he doesn't know anything and told me that it is all up to tom and his team.
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I sent tom a message through pedia site, but he never got back to me, but there again, why would he? he doesn't know me from Adam.
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Seg2009 said:
I sent tom a message through pedia site, but he never got back to me, but there again, why would he? he doesn't know me from Adam.
Seg
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I don't think your the only one who did so, myb hes still working down the list
Tom is the guy this is about.. no information from him or his team -> no information at all.. thats what is seems to be like
Since I don't know anyone to talk to him or one of his team members close, we can only wait and any disscusion is senseless.
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I just don't see the draw towards WM7. I stopped using the iPhone because the locked down environment... even after jailbreaking. WM6.5 w/ Sense is the BEST OS and GUI that I've used on a phone. It has usability elements while retaining the functionality of WM. It seems to me that M$ is moving backwards.
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I just don't see the draw towards WM7. I stopped using the iPhone because the locked down environment... even after jailbreaking. WM6.5 w/ Sense is the BEST OS and GUI that I've used on a phone. It has usability elements while retaining the functionality of WM. It seems to me that M$ is moving backwards.
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Im with you 100% on that statement. I feel like M$ is turning into Apple.
I don't understand why you are talking like this actually..
Sure, WP7 is locked down OS with many disadvantages, I agree with that!
BUT it brings lots of new features and its going to have full flash support etc.
it's not all bad.. basically this whole thing is not part of this discussion!
This is about WP7 on hd2 which was claimed to be real by tom.
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Apart from the HD2 WP7 exists/doesn't exist...
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I don't get why there isn't any news from tom_codon or any other people and why they aren't releasing it..
Sincerely, I'm not understanding why tom_codon gave the news of WP7 on HD2.
I mean... okay, WP7 HD2 ROM does exist, noone apart tom_codon and some other people has got it, but why are you saying to all that it does exist if you can't/don't want to release it?
It's not so mature and smart in a community where all is shared and that lives on the ROM sharing to say "I've got WP7! But you won't get it! Hah!!"........ am I wrong?

Newer Nexus One's to feature HTC's new maxTouch technology?

Do you think it'll happen? There has been rumors floating around about it.
Doubt it.
Where are the rumours from? here?
Damn the title got me excited. Well I sure hope so because I was planning on ordering a nexus one in 41 days when i'm 22 months into my t-mobile contract. Could you please link us to a news article that talks about this. Thanks
I was on someone else's computer and don't have the link for it though. Sorry.
Id sell this and buy a new one.
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I was on someone else's computer and don't have the link for it though. Sorry.
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Well I went searching on google and I didn't see anything close to what this title suggests. I'm refering to rumors too. Oh well =(
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There has been rumors floating around about it.
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No there haven't.
well... technically he just started one
I don't know if the newer batch of Nexus One will have this new feature/digitizer technology, but endgadget did mentioned that HTC droid incredible does uses this new technology.
that would blow
"People wildly speculating on these forms" != "There has been rumors floating around about it"
Haven't seen a single word about this aside from this thread.
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that would blow
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Why would that blow? How can anyone expect the hardware world not to continue evolving. There will always be something better than what you have... if you have the best right now, something is about to come out that beats it. You can't expect that new technology in an embedded device, such as a phone, will take the place of older technology used in current generation devices.
There is no reason to believe that HTC is going to change their manufacturing process for the Nexus One, or any of their currently released phones. The new technology will be in place for NEW devices, it would be quite odd for them to just start making Nexus Ones with different hardware simply because that hardware exists in the new devices they are manufacturing.
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that would blow
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Not when you can still say "warranty exchange."
Actually, judging by how fast google goes through versions and software (look at Chrome browser, already at 4.0 or 5.0), google is probably already testing Nexus Two. That thing'll probably have new screen.
They got a contract with current screen manufacturer, I bet they won't worry about switching now.
Google shows that this is the start of this rumor....
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that would blow
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No it wouldn't. What would blow is if advancements stopped.
faraz1992 said:
Google shows that this is the start of this rumor....
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Lmao.
For some reason I believe this a stupid question. The bashing and returns that would occur after this change, and the complaints and people maybe even wanting their money back would be so gradual it would cause a bad costly uproar.
People would form small not needed hate groups, make *****y blog post about how Google somehow "scamed" customers, Google's name would be flamed harshly by people who want attention. I could just imagine this happening..
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No it wouldn't. What would blow is if advancements stopped.
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ya, it would blow if they implemented this "new technology" on a phone thats already out.
kinda like what they did with the myTouch. they add a 3.5mm jack?? thats lame because all the people who own the phone previous to this launch now want that phone but cant get it because they just bought the other version like two months earlier (and just in case you take this literally I'M GENERALIZING)
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Not when you can still say "warranty exchange."
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i agree with you...
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Why would that blow? How can anyone expect the hardware world not to continue evolving. There will always be something better than what you have... if you have the best right now, something is about to come out that beats it. You can't expect that new technology in an embedded device, such as a phone, will take the place of older technology used in current generation devices.
There is no reason to believe that HTC is going to change their manufacturing process for the Nexus One, or any of their currently released phones. The new technology will be in place for NEW devices, it would be quite odd for them to just start making Nexus Ones with different hardware simply because that hardware exists in the new devices they are manufacturing.
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jesus christ. thank you so much for your pointless reply. I'm not an idiot, I'm saying that IT WOULD SUCK ON MY BALLSACK if they put NEWER technology on a phone that is already ON THE SHELVES.
You all take things way too seriously/literally so calm the **** down and overlook my post if you feel like you should waste your dumb energy replying to it.
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jesus christ. thank you so much for your pointless reply. I'm not an idiot, I saying that IT WOULD SUCK ON MY BALLSACK if they put NEWER technology on a phone that is already ON THE SHELVES.
You all take things way too seriously/literally so calm the **** down and overlook my post if you feel like you should waste your dumb energy replying to it.
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I wish I could give you a cup of Froyo to calm you down. ;-)
I completely agree though. Some people talk out of their butt sometimes.

can someone explaine what going on? is there any way to root or still nothing??

i can't understand nothing from all the threads here
is there a way to realy root the phone?? or nothing?
if there is why isn;t there any guid for that?
i realy need it to let the phone support another languges
thanks for helping
still nothing....
please don't post without searching first. There's already a sticky thread for general queries on rooting..
MOD.. please delete this thread.
Thread Moved.
no and won't be any root
hoss_n2 said:
no and won't be any root
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Why are all you comment pessimistic? Root is possible... sure... and I'm sure too that the Cleopatra's tumb it's there, in some place keep away to be like the bottom of a AA Battery be like the top.. positive!
@hoss_n2 - I'm with ondoteam.. most of your posts are really negative.. you need to get something good in your life man.. it's not healthy.
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@hoss_n2 - I'm with ondoteam.. most of your posts are really negative.. you need to get something good in your life man.. it's not healthy.
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i agree all we need is to wait and cross finger that 2.1 or 2.2 will coming soon and aim sure lots of different gesture and features will came....
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@hoss_n2 - I'm with ondoteam.. most of your posts are really negative.. you need to get something good in your life man.. it's not healthy.
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it is a big problem with me ,all my friens said that ,and it starts with me since htc promised wp7 for hd2 ,but microsoft refused because of the number of buttons it has i never trusts oem any more
I am not really familiar with rooting.
Does it actually mean we can install the plain android (2.1 or 2.2?) once someone figure how to root X10?
Sorry to be a pessimist but i truly doubt that there ever will or was root at the X10. Also the try via SETool i don't believe there ever was root archived (anyone seen proof for it ?). Sounds like a Fake to me. So after watching the whole "progress" it seems we have the first Android Device which cant be rooted. Means for us to wait in patient for SE updates and maybe we get 2.2 next Year in June. :-( so what i guess I'm going to sell my X10 as long i can still get some Money for it.
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Sorry to be a pessimist but i truly doubt that there ever will or was root at the X10. Also the try via SETool i don't believe there ever was root archived (anyone seen proof for it ?). Sounds like a Fake to me. So after watching the whole "progress" it seems we have the first Android Device which cant be rooted. Means for us to wait in patient for SE updates and maybe we get 2.2 next Year in June. :-( so what i guess I'm going to sell my X10 as long i can still get some Money for it.
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why are you being so negative in ever single root thread ? do you think the rubbish you are spouting is helping anyone ? well its not... so please stop. must the stuff you have been saying is total rubbish. like your ''it will never get root because it is not a popular phone'' comment in the other thread. its the top selling smartphone asia has ever had and it is selling amazingly well in the UK too
The motorola milestone has been out for AGES and it has not been rooted yet (technically, I think it's the bootloader that is locked...pretty much the same in terms of results).
So the X10 is not an isolated case.
What I don't understand is why these manufacturers don't realise that by making it so hard to root their phones they are actually hurting their own sales.
My only hope, regarding the X10, is that since the phone has sold 160k units in Jpana, someone might be able to root it over there.
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The motorola milestone has been out for AGES and it has not been rooted yet.
So the X10 is not an isolated case.
What I don't understand is why these manufacturers don't realise that by making it so hard to root their phones they are actually hurting their own sales.
My only hope, regarding the X10, is that since the phone has sold 160k units in Jpana, someone might be able to root it over there.
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yes it has
nsane said:
The motorola milestone has been out for AGES and it has not been rooted yet (technically, I think it's the bootloader that is locked...pretty much the same in terms of results).
So the X10 is not an isolated case.
What I don't understand is why these manufacturers don't realise that by making it so hard to root their phones they are actually hurting their own sales.
My only hope, regarding the X10, is that since the phone has sold 160k units in Jpana, someone might be able to root it over there.
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motorolla is rooted ages ago
SETool!! the way forward...
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no and won't be any root
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SETool!! its the way forward...

Samsungs Evolution begins 2/13.

So Samsung's bragging again that it's going to introduce a "evolution" and in the picture its the Galaxy S and then a white blog signifying it's "masterpiece" that it hopes to unveil on Feb. 13. Speculation seems to point at it's possibly them actually showing off the Vibrant 4G or another device.
The only "evolution" that Samsung could introduce, is the one where they support their devices instead of tossing new ones out there.
Take a read,
http://androidandme.com/2011/01/phones/samsung-to-introduce-the-next-evolution-of-the-galaxy-s-on-february-13-but-will-they-ever-update-it/
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The only "evolution" that Samsung could introduce, is the one where they support their devices instead of tossing new ones out there.
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Wow, so Samsung is just like every other cell phone manufacturer?????? THOSE BASTARDS!!!!! HOW DARE THEY KEEP UP WITH THEIR COMPETITION IN A FAST-GROWING INDUSTRY!!
I think they just made a typo. It's supposed to be "revolution" - because that's what the users are going to do on that date
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Wow, so Samsung is just like every other cell phone manufacturer?????? THOSE BASTARDS!!!!! HOW DARE THEY KEEP UP WITH THEIR COMPETITION IN A FAST-GROWING INDUSTRY!!
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Yes, damn them. Damn them all to hell..
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Yes, damn them. Damn them all to hell..
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no but seriously....im really into modding phones, and any device-specific forum ive ever been on has been full of people complaining about the same things. I just dont know why everyone doesnt just accept the system for what it is. And ALSO that the system is definitely out of Samsungs hands....but if they want to survive as a company, they have to keep up with that system.
I understand they can't just release a phone and wait 2 years to release another one. But ( I guess I cut the ending short) they need to work on supporting what they have out now along side what they push out in the future. It's sad that the cell phone business has taken on Apples take of things. Make a new device, sells millions. A year later push out the same phone but with "enhancements" and newer things. Wait another year and do the same thing, and then drop support for the original after the 2nd one comes out..
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no but seriously....im really into modding phones, and any device-specific forum ive ever been on has been full of people complaining about the same things. I just dont know why everyone doesnt just accept the system for what it is. And ALSO that the system is definitely out of Samsungs hands....but if they want to survive as a company, they have to keep up with that system.
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Man your a whinny little b****, maybe it could be the second generation of sgs?
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I think they just made a typo. It's supposed to be "revolution" - because that's what the users are going to do on that date
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Unfortunately as soon as Samsung announced a phone with 4.3" SuperAMOLED+ screen and a Tegra2-beating Orion SOC, everyone who were complaining about the Android updates will secretly be counting their savings so that they can get the latest and the greatest hardware. Such is the way of phone upgraditis.
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Man your a whinny little b****, maybe it could be the second generation of sgs?
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You spelled "whiny" wrong....
iwillkillyou said:
Man your a whinny little b****, maybe it could be the second generation of sgs?
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im a whiney little ***** haha......have you spent any time in the general section??? nothing but whining lately. what makes me any different?? because i go against the majority, which makes me an easy target??? take a nap dude. at least i make points and contribute to the debate, i dont think ive seen you make one yet. youjustkillpeople apparently
You contribute by complaining? I seen the genelar section, everyone has. just let pass, ignore it. your one thats been at it since the beginning, not like others who do it once maybe twice.
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iwillkillyou said:
You contribute by complaining? I seen the genelar section, everyone has. just let pass, ignore it. your one thats been at it since the beginning, not like others who do it once maybe twice.
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since the beginning?? i started my *****-thread on monday.....this class-action/fck samsung/lack of froyo crap has been going on for weeks....pleasedontkillme, thats all i ask
back up your accusations dude
Samsung sucks yo.
EDIT: NVM..
Hey topshelf, I just got my gingerbread update on my vibrant 4g
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Dan_Brutal said:
Hey topshelf, I just got my gingerbread update on my vibrant 4g
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oh yah?? well i have a Vibrant 3000X with 65G and dual-exhaust!!!.......AND SAMSUNG STILL HASNT UPDATED ME TO VERSION 65.32.9!!!! I HATE SAMSUNG. lets start a class action lawsuit!!! hell no, we wont go! hell no, we wont go!!!!!
apparently we are the neglected orphans of the smartphone world. its only us. its only samsung. wowowowow.....it is so much fun to sit here at work, and just wonder how miserable it must be to invest so much emotion into the OS of your phone (which you can get in a custom ROM anyway)
you knwo what would solve all of these problems?? TRADE BLAKE WHEELER
TopShelf10 said:
no but seriously....im really into modding phones, and any device-specific forum ive ever been on has been full of people complaining about the same things. I just dont know why everyone doesnt just accept the system for what it is. And ALSO that the system is definitely out of Samsungs hands....but if they want to survive as a company, they have to keep up with that system.
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Thank you! EVERY forum has several of these exact threads. Not trying to defend sammy, but people act like they are the only consumers being screwed by a corp.
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Thank you! EVERY forum has several of these exact threads. Not trying to defend sammy, but people act like they are the only consumers being screwed by a corp.
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dude ive been saying this for the past two days, and these weenies just flame me because i challenge their little cause......i think this post says it all:
-Originally Posted by TopShelf10-
So ignorant to the fast-growing industry of the cell phone. Name one combination of user-devicemodel-OSprovider-Manufacturer-NetworkProvider that is flawless. You roam around the internet you will find people complaining about these kinds of things eeeeverywhere. Lack of updates, lack of device support, lack of customer loyalty, unkept promises, hardware/software issues, blahblahblahhhhHHHhHHhHHHhhhHH
Nowadays, smartphones are outdated/obsolete within 6months of their release. Yes, indeed, its a monster that the manufacturers have created for themselves, and theres no way they can keep up with their competition while also keeping every single one of you crying babies happy. Yes, its an ugly industry, and it isnt fair. BUT ITS THE WAY IT IS.
*****, moan, *****, moan, *****, moan alllllll you want. File your class action lawsuits, spam their customer service lines, create facebook pages and twitter accounts, start petitions. do you think its going to change ANYTHING?? do you think its just THAT easy? you guys just sound so damn pathetic with all of your bellyaching.
Youre on a forum that is meant for modding your device, and making it better than the way it came out of the box, yet you are complaining that they wont do it for you. Then why are you guys even here??? No device is perfect. And when the day comes that they do release a perfect device, they will release an even more perfect device shortly after....thus making the prior one not perfect, and people *****ing for updates on their old ones to make it as good as the new one. Round-and-round we go.
Consumers will NEVER be happy, and you guys are proving that. Do some research before buying a damn phone next time. Dont buy it right when its released just because its the hottest thing, and having the phone that is on all the commercials gives you a sense of purpose. Maybe next time wait a couple months, come onto XDA, and see if the children are whining about the damn GPS. That would be a tell-tale warning, wouldnt you say? Then Samsung wont have your money, youll still have your upgrade to play with, and you wont be stuck with a device that didnt get sharted from god's ass. Problem solved.
To me what's just as bad as the people that constantly complain are the people that get so defensive about it as if they have the majority of stock in Samsung. To break it down simply- Samsung doesn't care about you. They don't care about you the whiner, or you the blind follower.
Manufacturers aren't expected to cater to every whim of the consumer but I don't think anyone could come up with a valid argument in support of Samsung's continually delayed release of software both now and with other devices in the past.
In the end it's a great piece of hardware that we're lucky to have such excellent support for here on XDA and other places on the internet but it's just not supported by Samsung. They could learn a lesson or two from HTC. Sadly, if you're buying a Samsung or Motorola, this is the risk you're taking.
glfpunk said:
To me what's just as bad as the people that constantly complain are the people that get so defensive about it as if they have the majority of stock in Samsung. To break it down simply- Samsung doesn't care about you. They don't care about you the whiner, or you the blind follower.
Manufacturers aren't expected to cater to every whim of the consumer but I don't think anyone could come up with a valid argument in support of Samsung's continually delayed release of software both now and with other devices in the past.
In the end it's a great piece of hardware that we're lucky to have such excellent support for here on XDA and other places on the internet but it's just not supported by Samsung. They could learn a lesson or two from HTC. Sadly, if you're buying a Samsung or Motorola, this is the risk you're taking.
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if i didnt use all of my 5 "thanks" for the day, id thank you......um......thank you
TopShelf10 said:
oh yah?? well i have a Vibrant 3000X with 65G and dual-exhaust!!!.....
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Lmfao. That **** cracks me up. Got Nos on that *****?
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Bye Bye HTC HD2 comunity

Just one to say good bye to you gys you were great comunity but the hd2 lack of android killed me so i sold it and got an iphone 4 wich rocks
anyway just want to say good bye and thank the devs A LOT and wich you good luck with android on your hd2
metko said:
Just one to say good bye to you gys you were great comunity but the hd2 lack of android killed me so i sold it and got an iphone 4 wich rocks
anyway just want to say good bye and thank the devs A LOT and wich you good luck with android on your hd2
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I'm not sure I understand your post; people run Android on the HD2 all the time...
stevedebi said:
I'm not sure I understand your post; people run Android on the HD2 all the time...
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but with bugs wich are realy anoying
Youll be back
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darwich said:
Youll be back
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im sure but with hd2 never ill tell you that
I don't know what bugs you are talking about, but more than likely it is the roms. Limitations, then yes, I know of. e.g only 512 rom.
Good moved.
such a shame someone else leaves and buys them self an iphone 4, yeah and your point is??????
To Troll??????
We hardly care that you went and bought an iphone 4.
The lack on Android, well firstly wrong there loads of Builds available, some have a few problems some have none at all so I cant really see your point here,
Secondly buy a Android Device if thats what you want.
The HD2 is probably the best device available, proven by the amount of work the hackers, programmers etc have put into this phone, they have slugged there guts out making things work that was never supposed to.
So have fun with your iphone locked down piece of poop.
Congratulations. You dumped a real smartphone and paid premium price for a outdated locked down app launcher. Multiple operating systems vs one boring operating system? Choice vs restriction? Bad move buddy
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Go to iPhone 4rum..........
metko said:
Just one to say good bye to you gys you were great comunity but the hd2 lack of android killed me
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Lmao, there is no lack of android!
What is lacking is brain capacity = iPhone user!
There is MANY, MANY roms that work 99.9%. There is MANY, MANY roms that work 99.9% with simple tweaks/modifications.
The reason why you got your iPhone is because you dont have the mental ability or patience to learn. = iPhone user.
Congratulations on your Apple lobotomy, good riddens!
Wish I could find these "bugs" on ny phone but unfortunately my phone works perfectly, Perhaps it was something YOU did incorrectly.
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Demon_man said:
such a shame someone else leaves and buys them self an iphone 4, yeah and your point is??????
To Troll??????
We hardly care that you went and bought an iphone 4.
The lack on Android, well firstly wrong there loads of Builds available, some have a few problems some have none at all so I cant really see your point here,
Secondly buy a Android Device if thats what you want.
The HD2 is probably the best device available, proven by the amount of work the hackers, programmers etc have put into this phone, they have slugged there guts out making things work that was never supposed to.
So have fun with your iphone locked down piece of poop.
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Indeed well said
tut..... my only regret is selling the hd2... i brought a htc desire z because of the keyboard and couldnt afford to keep the hd2 cus i needed the money .... but ill get one again because there just such a good phone.... people get so drawn in by the iphone... i just dont see why...
Mate I dont post much but I saw this post and I gotta say, that's the dumbest reason I've ever seen for a person getting rid of a HD2. It is probably the only phone out there which can run almost any ROM so smoothly cus of its high end hardware and also cus the amazing devs who cook really stable and smooth roms for it. This **** is legendary.
Worst decision. Have fun sucking on Steve Jobs' balls even for a thing as little as sending a file via Bluetooth
The phone was too good for you anyway. Have fun with your locked down communist piece of dookie
leehopley said:
tut..... my only regret is selling the hd2... i brought a htc desire z because of the keyboard and couldnt afford to keep the hd2 cus i needed the money .... but ill get one again because there just such a good phone.... people get so drawn in by the iphone... i just dont see why...
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Because they are sheep!
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Because they are sheep!
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Ha....sometimes i want an iphone ....think of the hours i could save not skinning, switching roms, tweaking stuff. Almost would seem freeing, boring, but freeing.
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Umm...Lack of Android, so you buy iphone? haha
metko said:
but with bugs wich are realy anoying
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I dont have any bugs on my HD2 w/ Android, i had bugs on my Galaxy S with native Android....
learn how to flash and which ROM to use.
damn newbie whine like little *****es......

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