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dissapointed with fascinate

I am honestly dissapointed with my Fascinate, I bought it because I thought it was going to be very costumizable, with the open loader and all that, the reality is that most devs are not even putting attention to this phone, only a handfull are, I have had it since the first day that came out, and development for this phone is going really really slow, and full of issues.

Relax bro, all good things will come. I was able to mod my phone a lot because these devs are putting all they can into our phone's development.
We already have lag fixes, OC kernels, debloating tutorials, backlight mods, standard unlocking screens, etcetc. Not to mention plenty of themes, apps, and other cool things.
Just relax and take a breather. We got froyo on the way and developers are waiting for that so they can really unleash the beast.
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WTF do you need that wasn't described in Post #2?
Don't say Froyo, because that's something EVERYONE wants. My phone does everything I want it to at a blazing speed, maybe you're just lazy and don't look into things deeper. IDK.

jorge3687 said:
I am honestly dissapointed with my Fascinate, I bought it because I thought it was going to be very costumizable, with the open loader and all that, the reality is that most devs are not even putting attention to this phone, only a handfull are, I have had it since the first day that came out, and development for this phone is going really really slow, and full of issues.
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wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I am very very very very very very happy with it. Only lacking .gif support in the browser. But that's what 2.2 is for.
good day. From the Fascinate sporting the XDA app.

if you want to customize your phone learn to make apps,themes, and what not your self.you can't customize your phone if you don't put effort into it. don't complain if you won't contribute and work at it
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mackeydesigns said:
WTF do you need that wasn't described in Post #2?
Don't say Froyo, because that's something EVERYONE wants. My phone does everything I want it to at a blazing speed, maybe you're just lazy and don't look into things deeper. IDK.
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Exactly. Or phones are more than capable, and this is without much overclocking and froyo. My phone is ridiculously fast and stable, and its one hell of a looker
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jt1134 said:
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Hahahaha <wipes tears>
I'm just happy to not have Bing. I'd let the devs have a round /w my wife for that.

Dynomike1 said:
Hahahaha <wipes tears>
I'm just happy to not have Bing. I'd let the devs have a round /w my wife for that.
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...you mean another round...right?
(Did nobody tell him?!?!)

Actually, there are devs but they don't have the froyo kernal to work with. SGS international version has the kernal leaked, that's why they have the froyo-beta-ish roms.

Redwing said:
...you mean another round...right?
(Did nobody tell him?!?!)
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Lol omg
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jorge3687 said:
I am honestly dissapointed with my Fascinate, I bought it because I thought it was going to be very costumizable, with the open loader and all that, the reality is that most devs are not even putting attention to this phone, only a handfull are, I have had it since the first day that came out, and development for this phone is going really really slow, and full of issues.
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Having come from an N1, which is inarguably the most dev friendly Android phone to date, I have to whole heartedly disagree with the OP. It is a little aggravating dealing with Voodoo now and then, and the processes are a little different, but all in all this phone is fantastic.
I have a custom bare-bone type rom built, fully themed and customized to my hearts content. Four installed launchers that each have a completely different style and feel which I can switch at will. OC Voodoo lag and color fix kernel running on interactive thanks to Jt, and plenty of mix and match mods and hacks to keep me flashing back and forth so frequently no one can actually call me.
We do only have a handful of devs working on the fascinate currently. They happen to also be pretty damn awesome, and give us plenty to work and play with.
I have to re-ask the question, what the hell are you actually looking to do that you can't?

jorge3687 said:
I am honestly dissapointed with my Fascinate, I bought it because I thought it was going to be very costumizable, with the open loader and all that, the reality is that most devs are not even putting attention to this phone, only a handfull are, I have had it since the first day that came out, and development for this phone is going really really slow, and full of issues.
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This guy seems to complain a lot, and doesn't really contribute to the conversation or development efforts. I'm going to decline to further feed the trolls...

Zennmaster said:
This guy seems to complain a lot, and doesn't really contribute to the conversation or development efforts. I'm going to decline to further feed the trolls...
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I think he is trying to come out of black screen issue.
good day.

How come everyone who has a bad experience, or is disapointed with there device gets called a troll? Isnt this the purpose of the Forums....to speak your opinion, learn a few things and see if anyone feels the same way?
I remember when everyone ...well people still do make fun of apple fan boyz because thats all they love is apple....but i have the feeling android fanz are becoming the same thing....close minded and haterz!!!
The purpose of android was openess and freedom....so wake up people the trolls are not those who complain about a priduct they paid good $$$$ money fir but are disapointed... the trolls are the haterz and people who beleive that there the best and there way is the only way!!!

Generally because you can sum up their complaints to a) why aren't devs giving me what I want now b) I have had my phone a month, understand very little but need to complain, or c) this phone sucks, I had my g1 for a year and we had tons of mods, dev r teh lazy.
So yeah, trolls.
If they were here to learn... The complaints wouldn't be their posting topics, they would be off learning. They are here to feed off others works and complain.
BingoDanny said:
How come everyone who has a bad experience, or is disapointed with there device gets called a troll? Isnt this the purpose of the Forums....to speak your opinion, learn a few things and see if anyone feels the same way?
I remember when everyone ...well people still do make fun of apple fan boyz because thats all they love is apple....but i have the feeling android fanz are becoming the same thing....close minded and haterz!!!
The purpose of android was openess and freedom....so wake up people the trolls are not those who complain about a priduct they paid good $$$$ money fir but are disapointed... the trolls are the haterz and people who beleive that there the best and there way is the only way!!!
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I gotta disagree with you, the thread is posted in the general section. If hes disapointed with the phone. I think its good if he tells us why. Im disapointed not because of support with the phone but because alot of stuff out the box doesnt work as advertised.....gps lag etc............and yes there are lag fixes but i paid top $$$ for it to work out the box not for me to go find a fix.
either way i think the word troll is used to freely.

BingoDanny said:
I gotta disagree with you, the thread is posted in the general section. If hes disapointed with the phone. I think its good if he tells us why. Im disapointed not because of support with the phone but because alot of stuff out the box doesnt work as advertised.....gps lag etc............and yes there are lag fixes but i paid top $$$ for it to work out the box not for me to go find a fix.
either way i think the word troll is used to freely.
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I agree with you about the general section & out of the box comment. Its just that there are many other threads with the same topic. But he has the right to post this question, and I was merely asking what was wrong with the phone according to him. Out of the box, the phone is still very capable and it honestly doesnt need to be modded. But the mods are very nice.
Also what phone is perfect stock? There's always cons, and that's why we're on the forums looking for answers.
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no phone is perfect.... that's why were all always going to complain lolol
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Exactly if there was any phone close to perfect for me out would be this. The iPhone is totally out of the picture.

Samsungs Evolution begins 2/13.

So Samsung's bragging again that it's going to introduce a "evolution" and in the picture its the Galaxy S and then a white blog signifying it's "masterpiece" that it hopes to unveil on Feb. 13. Speculation seems to point at it's possibly them actually showing off the Vibrant 4G or another device.
The only "evolution" that Samsung could introduce, is the one where they support their devices instead of tossing new ones out there.
Take a read,
http://androidandme.com/2011/01/phones/samsung-to-introduce-the-next-evolution-of-the-galaxy-s-on-february-13-but-will-they-ever-update-it/

presence06 said:
The only "evolution" that Samsung could introduce, is the one where they support their devices instead of tossing new ones out there.
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Wow, so Samsung is just like every other cell phone manufacturer?????? THOSE BASTARDS!!!!! HOW DARE THEY KEEP UP WITH THEIR COMPETITION IN A FAST-GROWING INDUSTRY!!

I think they just made a typo. It's supposed to be "revolution" - because that's what the users are going to do on that date

TopShelf10 said:
Wow, so Samsung is just like every other cell phone manufacturer?????? THOSE BASTARDS!!!!! HOW DARE THEY KEEP UP WITH THEIR COMPETITION IN A FAST-GROWING INDUSTRY!!
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Yes, damn them. Damn them all to hell..

presence06 said:
Yes, damn them. Damn them all to hell..
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no but seriously....im really into modding phones, and any device-specific forum ive ever been on has been full of people complaining about the same things. I just dont know why everyone doesnt just accept the system for what it is. And ALSO that the system is definitely out of Samsungs hands....but if they want to survive as a company, they have to keep up with that system.

I understand they can't just release a phone and wait 2 years to release another one. But ( I guess I cut the ending short) they need to work on supporting what they have out now along side what they push out in the future. It's sad that the cell phone business has taken on Apples take of things. Make a new device, sells millions. A year later push out the same phone but with "enhancements" and newer things. Wait another year and do the same thing, and then drop support for the original after the 2nd one comes out..

TopShelf10 said:
no but seriously....im really into modding phones, and any device-specific forum ive ever been on has been full of people complaining about the same things. I just dont know why everyone doesnt just accept the system for what it is. And ALSO that the system is definitely out of Samsungs hands....but if they want to survive as a company, they have to keep up with that system.
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Man your a whinny little b****, maybe it could be the second generation of sgs?
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megatherian said:
I think they just made a typo. It's supposed to be "revolution" - because that's what the users are going to do on that date
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Unfortunately as soon as Samsung announced a phone with 4.3" SuperAMOLED+ screen and a Tegra2-beating Orion SOC, everyone who were complaining about the Android updates will secretly be counting their savings so that they can get the latest and the greatest hardware. Such is the way of phone upgraditis.

iwillkillyou said:
Man your a whinny little b****, maybe it could be the second generation of sgs?
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You spelled "whiny" wrong....

iwillkillyou said:
Man your a whinny little b****, maybe it could be the second generation of sgs?
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im a whiney little ***** haha......have you spent any time in the general section??? nothing but whining lately. what makes me any different?? because i go against the majority, which makes me an easy target??? take a nap dude. at least i make points and contribute to the debate, i dont think ive seen you make one yet. youjustkillpeople apparently

You contribute by complaining? I seen the genelar section, everyone has. just let pass, ignore it. your one thats been at it since the beginning, not like others who do it once maybe twice.
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iwillkillyou said:
You contribute by complaining? I seen the genelar section, everyone has. just let pass, ignore it. your one thats been at it since the beginning, not like others who do it once maybe twice.
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since the beginning?? i started my *****-thread on monday.....this class-action/fck samsung/lack of froyo crap has been going on for weeks....pleasedontkillme, thats all i ask
back up your accusations dude

Samsung sucks yo.
EDIT: NVM..

Hey topshelf, I just got my gingerbread update on my vibrant 4g
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Dan_Brutal said:
Hey topshelf, I just got my gingerbread update on my vibrant 4g
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oh yah?? well i have a Vibrant 3000X with 65G and dual-exhaust!!!.......AND SAMSUNG STILL HASNT UPDATED ME TO VERSION 65.32.9!!!! I HATE SAMSUNG. lets start a class action lawsuit!!! hell no, we wont go! hell no, we wont go!!!!!
apparently we are the neglected orphans of the smartphone world. its only us. its only samsung. wowowowow.....it is so much fun to sit here at work, and just wonder how miserable it must be to invest so much emotion into the OS of your phone (which you can get in a custom ROM anyway)
you knwo what would solve all of these problems?? TRADE BLAKE WHEELER

TopShelf10 said:
no but seriously....im really into modding phones, and any device-specific forum ive ever been on has been full of people complaining about the same things. I just dont know why everyone doesnt just accept the system for what it is. And ALSO that the system is definitely out of Samsungs hands....but if they want to survive as a company, they have to keep up with that system.
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Thank you! EVERY forum has several of these exact threads. Not trying to defend sammy, but people act like they are the only consumers being screwed by a corp.

golmar88 said:
Thank you! EVERY forum has several of these exact threads. Not trying to defend sammy, but people act like they are the only consumers being screwed by a corp.
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dude ive been saying this for the past two days, and these weenies just flame me because i challenge their little cause......i think this post says it all:
-Originally Posted by TopShelf10-
So ignorant to the fast-growing industry of the cell phone. Name one combination of user-devicemodel-OSprovider-Manufacturer-NetworkProvider that is flawless. You roam around the internet you will find people complaining about these kinds of things eeeeverywhere. Lack of updates, lack of device support, lack of customer loyalty, unkept promises, hardware/software issues, blahblahblahhhhHHHhHHhHHHhhhHH
Nowadays, smartphones are outdated/obsolete within 6months of their release. Yes, indeed, its a monster that the manufacturers have created for themselves, and theres no way they can keep up with their competition while also keeping every single one of you crying babies happy. Yes, its an ugly industry, and it isnt fair. BUT ITS THE WAY IT IS.
*****, moan, *****, moan, *****, moan alllllll you want. File your class action lawsuits, spam their customer service lines, create facebook pages and twitter accounts, start petitions. do you think its going to change ANYTHING?? do you think its just THAT easy? you guys just sound so damn pathetic with all of your bellyaching.
Youre on a forum that is meant for modding your device, and making it better than the way it came out of the box, yet you are complaining that they wont do it for you. Then why are you guys even here??? No device is perfect. And when the day comes that they do release a perfect device, they will release an even more perfect device shortly after....thus making the prior one not perfect, and people *****ing for updates on their old ones to make it as good as the new one. Round-and-round we go.
Consumers will NEVER be happy, and you guys are proving that. Do some research before buying a damn phone next time. Dont buy it right when its released just because its the hottest thing, and having the phone that is on all the commercials gives you a sense of purpose. Maybe next time wait a couple months, come onto XDA, and see if the children are whining about the damn GPS. That would be a tell-tale warning, wouldnt you say? Then Samsung wont have your money, youll still have your upgrade to play with, and you wont be stuck with a device that didnt get sharted from god's ass. Problem solved.

To me what's just as bad as the people that constantly complain are the people that get so defensive about it as if they have the majority of stock in Samsung. To break it down simply- Samsung doesn't care about you. They don't care about you the whiner, or you the blind follower.
Manufacturers aren't expected to cater to every whim of the consumer but I don't think anyone could come up with a valid argument in support of Samsung's continually delayed release of software both now and with other devices in the past.
In the end it's a great piece of hardware that we're lucky to have such excellent support for here on XDA and other places on the internet but it's just not supported by Samsung. They could learn a lesson or two from HTC. Sadly, if you're buying a Samsung or Motorola, this is the risk you're taking.

glfpunk said:
To me what's just as bad as the people that constantly complain are the people that get so defensive about it as if they have the majority of stock in Samsung. To break it down simply- Samsung doesn't care about you. They don't care about you the whiner, or you the blind follower.
Manufacturers aren't expected to cater to every whim of the consumer but I don't think anyone could come up with a valid argument in support of Samsung's continually delayed release of software both now and with other devices in the past.
In the end it's a great piece of hardware that we're lucky to have such excellent support for here on XDA and other places on the internet but it's just not supported by Samsung. They could learn a lesson or two from HTC. Sadly, if you're buying a Samsung or Motorola, this is the risk you're taking.
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if i didnt use all of my 5 "thanks" for the day, id thank you......um......thank you

TopShelf10 said:
oh yah?? well i have a Vibrant 3000X with 65G and dual-exhaust!!!.....
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Lmfao. That **** cracks me up. Got Nos on that *****?
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Stupid ass Sprint and their stupid ass playbook?

As you can see by the title I am getting more and more disgruntled by the day.
I assume the playbook made no mention of GB this f'ing week?

.....I'm not sure how I am supposed to respond to this. There is no question. Or any way to know whether or not Sprint will drop GB. Hmmm

darkierawr said:
.....I'm not sure how I am supposed to respond to this. There is no question. Or any way to know whether or not Sprint will drop GB. Hmmm
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If it is going to drop isn't it mentioned in the PB?
Therefore the question is - Was it in the PB tonight?

Milkman00 said:
If it is going to drop isn't it mentioned in the PB?
Therefore the question is - Was it in the PB tonight?
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If it was, your title is going to look more retarded than it does already, and its already full fledged.
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muyoso said:
If it was, your title is going to look more retarded than it does already, and its already full fledged.
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Speaking of retarded, look who it is. Pot, Kettle, Black.
Anyway - I qualified my title in the first line of my post. I am disgruntled and I am tired of the same old **** from Sprint/Samsung. No communication, late patches... Tired and disgruntled beyond belief. Hence the title.

Milkman00 said:
As you can see by the title I am getting more and more disgruntled by the day.
I assume the playbook made no mention of GB this f'ing week?
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The guy that looks at the playbook and shares with us looks at it on Wednesday and shares on Thursday. Calm your damn nerves til tomorrow when we're told what he found out.
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The Great Lonny from Charlie Brown!!!!
Milkman00 said:
Speaking of retarded, look who it is. Pot, Kettle, Black.
Anyway - I qualified my title in the first line of my post. I am disgruntled and I am tired of the same old **** from Sprint/Samsung. No communication, late patches... Tired and disgruntled beyond belief. Hence the title.
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Thanks for being real. I feel the same way bro. I feel your pain. But I am not surprised. Maybe some of the guys can ask Lonny Claus for his version of gingerbread. I am on the naughty list so I won't be getting gingerbread but others who are on the nice list can or maybe we can wait for the Lonny Bunny but our best chance is to ask the Great Lonny next Halloween for gingerbread by that time we will have an official gingerbread while everybody else will be on Jellybean.

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The guy that looks at the playbook and shares with us looks at it on Wednesday and shares on Thursday. Calm your damn nerves til tomorrow when we're told what he found out.
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Thanks Steve. I didn't know that was the case. I thought several users here had access to it.
I am so disgusted with SamSprint it is disgusting. The worst part yet is that I feel that I have no options. I like Samsung technology (specifically the large AMOLED screen in combination with the physical QWERTY), but with attitude that Samsung and Sprint have in releasing software updates (the attitude of I got your money already), it is REALLY discouraging. I wish we had other options because I would GTFO of this phone QUICK and never buy another Samsung phone again.
ALSO, all of this in combination with Samsung and Sprint's complete lack of communication on the matter. No status updates, confirmations, NOTHING. SOOOOOOOOOO tired of this business model, and nothing on the horizon that looks better.

The Galaxy S is an awesome phone no matter which variant you have. Yes we don't get the up dates as quick as we should, I put it on the carriers(refer to the I9000 section on samfirmware and you'll see what I mean). If they'd let some members of xda do their updates they'd be a lot stablier and out faster.
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jamice4u said:
Maybe some of the guys can ask Lonny Claus for his version of gingerbread.
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It is pretty clear from all of the posts that I have read, that getting GB from his phone is nothing short of a lost cause.
That said, we shouldn't need to do this kind of reverse engineering crap to get the software off his phone to get it to the people that want it.

Milkman00 said:
It is pretty clear from all of the posts that I have read, that getting GB from his phone is nothing short of a lost cause.
That said, we shouldn't need to do this kind of reverse engineering crap to get the software off his phone to get it to the people that want it.
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That is not going to happen.
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Care to take your childish, complaining somewhere else? Try any android blog, or the sprint forums. This thread, and all of these supportive attitudes are asinine.

azyouthinkeyeiz said:
Care to take your childish, complaining somewhere else? Try any android blog, or the sprint forums. This thread, and all of these supportive attitudes are asinine.
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I am sorry that you think it is ok for companies (Sprint/Samsung) to treat THEIR CUSTOMERS this way. You know, the same customers who pay the salaries of the employees of their respective companies???
I am also sorry that you don't find this ridiculous delay, and this non-communication as acceptable, and as something that doesn't warrant complaining.
Instead, you chose to complain about my post. Good use of your time. It is YOUR passive attitude which is what allows these exact delays to occur. GOOD JOB!
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I guess it wasn't in the playbook this week?

Dude, for real? Grow up. We've gone this long without official GB, it's not like the phone is unusable without it.

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Dude, for real? Grow up. We've gone this long without official GB, it's not like the phone is unusable without it.
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And that makes it ok!!!!
I simply don't understand how so many people think it is OK for a consumer to be treated this way by the company they are supporting. This is NOT OK. Instead of being passive about the entire situation, why not be more vocal???
Funny thing is, if you pacifists would actually read what I post, you would see that I am not even necessarily asking for GB tomorrow. I would be thrilled just to get some communication from these companies. Stop keeping the PAYING CUSTOMERS in the dark. Let us know what is going on.
If more people spoke up, maybe these companies would change their tune a little, but nooooooooooo, people are ok with not getting updates in a timely fashion, with no communication from the companies that will ultimately provide said update.

Unless GB is gonna make my phone physically do my job for me I don't see it as that big of a deal. The devs have made this phone kick ass but in essence its just a phone that's fun to mod. I just don't get all the anger. Besides that I'm running eh17 with one of the new kernels from source and it is running great. (Although it still doesn't do my job for me)
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Your complaing in a development fourm isn't going to do anything for you if your upset that sprint/samsung does not give you timely updates to your phone. Try complaining in the sprint/samsung fourms, it might help your cause a litttle more.
GituSum Epic

GituSum said:
Your complaing in a development fourm isn't going to do anything for you if your upset that sprint/samsung does not give you timely updates to your phone. Try complaining in the sprint/samsung fourms, it might help your cause a litttle more.
GituSum Epic
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I have personally written to both companies (actual paper and stamp). I am just one person. If more and more people did it (even just demanded communication), things would change.

rgregg504 said:
Unless GB is gonna make my phone physically do my job for me I don't see it as that big of a deal. The devs have made this phone kick ass but in essence its just a phone that's fun to mod. I just don't get all the anger. Besides that I'm running eh17 with one of the new kernels from source and it is running great. (Although it still doesn't do my job for me)
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I had to lol at the job still not being done for you. Now there's a real challenge for the devs.
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Milkman00 said:
And that makes it ok!!!!
I simply don't understand how so many people think it is OK for a consumer to be treated this way by the company they are supporting. This is NOT OK. Instead of being passive about the entire situation, why not be more vocal???
Funny thing is, if you pacifists would actually read what I post, you would see that I am not even necessarily asking for GB tomorrow. I would be thrilled just to get some communication from these companies. Stop keeping the PAYING CUSTOMERS in the dark. Let us know what is going on.
If more people spoke up, maybe these companies would change their tune a little, but nooooooooooo, people are ok with not getting updates in a timely fashion, with no communication from the companies that will ultimately provide said update.
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Spoke up to WHO? XDA Developers forum?
And no one is keeping anyone in the dark. We weren't guaranteed ANYTHING. We have been getting leaks (read: unofficial builds), and that's it. Nothing has been announced. We'll get it when we get it. Were we even TOLD we were getting Gingerbread by both Sprint and Samsung? I don't think so. We are all speculating release dates, 2.3.x builds, playbook leaks, etc.

A Great Loss To The XP Community

So I went to check on PSXPERIA and I see this message posted by yifanlu
Update: (01/06/2012) I've decided to sell my Xperia play and discontinue all my work on the platform. Like SE, I lost interest in the Play because of the lack of games and a general lack of content. Also, I cannot stand Android anymore, especially SE's skin. I was looking forward for ICS, but after seeing SE put their skin on that too, I won't want to deal with it anymore. As for PSXperia, I have always released the source and documents for everything I release. I also have a few writeups on reverse engineering the psx emulator on my site. I will no longer be providing support for PSXperia and won't be managing the bug reports on github. Again, everything is open source and under GPL, so anyone can pick up where I left off (for example, improving the UI, future emulator compability, etc). I hope the project won't die!
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Just wanted to say this is going to be a big loss to the community. PsXperia was the only program that allowed us to make backups where the analog controls worked and I loved that feature.
Going to be sad seeing him leave this sub-forum and also abandon his projects because he was a resource of knowledge and a helper to everyone he came upon.
I hope this type of "giving up" behavior is not seen anymore because it will really hurt further development for the Xperia Play.
Well hope you do well my friend yifanlu. I hope you have fun with whatever you do next. Atleast one person has appreciated your work and that was me.
I have to disagree about ICS tho. I never was excited about it. Just more useless features I don't want or need
So from myself and whoever else wants to join.
Goodbye and good luck.

If you people have Kindle readers, you'll find him there as well, as he jail broke some of them. Show him your support!
Thanks for everything, Yifan Lu!

Logseman said:
If you people have Kindle readers, you'll find him there as well, as he jail broke some of them. Show him your support!
Thanks for everything, Yifan Lu!
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Sadly I do not have one.
All i have right now is 2 droid X's and 1 Xperia play locked bootloader

Wow, this really sucks! I do see this becoming a trend, hell last night, while researching some stuff, i was thinking to myself, how tired i was of the lack of content, and i also noticed that even here on XDA, developement for the play has pretty much come to a crawl. I am on here daily, and its been awhile since something BIG and NEW has been published for the Play. I was thinking of paying to unlock BL, but then decided not too, there is nothing, i want, no big accomplishment, that i need, that warrants shelling out hard earned money for a BL Unlock. Pretty sad really, i came from a "Starter" android, not even that great of a phone, but it was SOOOOO easy to flash, root, unlock, and developement was insane! To see this great device, basically sinking, and some good devs, jumping ship, its pretty sad.
EDIT - However on a upside, maybe with the phone being free now we will see an increse in activity, but i kinda doubt it.

Well once a good Rom for locked bootloaders is released with a stock OC ability, I think things will become a lot more interesting.

Milenko2121 said:
Well once a good Rom for locked bootloaders is released with a stock OC ability, I think things will become a lot more interesting.
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Exactly, Only a small portion of Xperia Play users have the unlockable bootloader version.

Lack of games? Lack of content? The content's growing so large that I'm usually too overwhelmed to deal with updating my list as frequently as I'd like.
Oh wait... it's just another stealth-anti SEXP Hogwarts thread... moving along.
EDIT: I do appreciate all the guy's done for breaking into PSPocket to make it into what the community wanted it to be, but honestly, it's been the exact opposite case for me - Xperia PLAY's got so much good software on it's own, and has brought so many games from crap touch-screen controls to something that's enjoyable that I haven't really cared to mess around with crap I already beat from 2 generations ago.

I think the community here is still going strong, especially with all the brilliance DooMLoRD brings us

jacklebott said:
I think the community here is still going strong, especially with all the brilliance DooMLoRD brings us
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Keep thread on topic ok this is dedicated to a great developer and helper to the community of forum
not a discussion of the state of things
we are just supposed to honor yifanlu here ok.
If you have something good to say about him let it be known,

Well...you can convince him to stay,I mean he couldn't have sold his phone in 6 days. Anyway, Blagus left a while back,don't see anyone noticing that...

Fokezy said:
Well...you can convince him to stay,I mean he couldn't have sold his phone in 6 days. Anyway, Blagus left a while back,don't see anyone noticing that...
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Blagus had his phone stolen, but he's in the FXP team.

Logseman said:
Blagus had his phone stolen, but he's in the FXP team.
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Ya he had his phone stolen by logseman, They met each other at starbucks for a chat about a new blog Blagus was planning on making.
They chatted for a bit and then blagus said he was going to buy a brownie, not knowing he had left his phone sitting on the table.
Logseman saw the opportunity and took the phone. and the rest is history.
Lol jk that story is entirely fictional

Hogwarts said:
Ya he had his phone stolen by logseman, They met each other at starbucks for a chat about a new blog Blagus was planning on making.
They chatted for a bit and then blagus said he was going to buy a brownie, not knowing he had left his phone sitting on the table.
Logseman saw the opportunity and took the phone. and the rest is history.
Lol jk that story is entirely fictional
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As far as I know there are no starbucks in croatia so...
Anyway did doom buy the phone?
Sent from my Xperia Play

"I cannot stand Android anymore"
thats too bad , but at least you made the sources availlable to the community ...
thanks for PSXPERIA and good luck with your future projects

Bummer
Yea that sucks. Sorry to see any Devs go.
Thanks for your work and good luck and good times to the future.
I am still trying to figure out how i can start posting my on custom nandroids(locked bl r800x cdma). can someone pm me and tell me whats the process?

Beanerman said:
Yea that sucks. Sorry to see any Devs go.
Thanks for your work and good luck and good times to the future.
I am still trying to figure out how i can start posting my on custom nandroids(locked bl r800x cdma). can someone pm me and tell me whats the process?
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you should not give out a nandroid backup unless you know what you're doing
you could mess up some peoples device. brick it even.
unless you know alot of knowledge in decompile / assembley / editing then i wouldnt suggest to get into custom rom ok.

Hogwarts said:
you should not give out a nandroid backup unless you know what you're doing
you could mess up some peoples device. brick it even.
unless you know alot of knowledge in decompile / assembley / editing then i wouldnt suggest to get into custom rom ok.
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Is that being said by someone who's giving out a nandroid backup from a phone he can't test?

O lordy... Darnit... Yifan was so successful here.. I pray someone will continue his work
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I feel like I'm walking into my own eulogy , but I guess I should say that the main reason I left IS because someone offered quite a generous amount of money for my Xperia play, and my other excuses including the lack of content and android sucking aren't enough to have made me part with the phone. So, I don't want to give the impression that I left because I hate Xperia play. Just that I'm a poor student and need money, and I reasoned that I would have enough extra to buy a ps vita, which I believe is exactly what I wanted in the play (well, after someone hacks it, which shouldn't be long). It has useable analog sticks (I could never get used to the touchpads), a big screen, Sony first party support, PSP games. (and I never used the play as a phone anyways)
Again, I really hope that someone will take over psxperia, and that the project won't die. And I'll still lurk here from time to time.

All the best yifanlu, maybe see you hacking the ps vita yourself

Why the panicked frenzy for Lollipop?

Okay folks, I am as hardcore a geek as anyone else in here, I am certain of that. I am looking forward to Lollipop, and it is certainly a nice design and very pleasing to the eyes... but I don't quite understand why everyone is getting so completely tied up and impatient about it having not arrived, yet. I've used it on my 1st gen Moto G (XT1032) and yeah - it looks VERY nice... but... so what? What tangible and real benefits does it offer over what you all have now? I'm sorry - I am either missing something HUGE, or (which is more likely to be the real issue), we just have an internet of impatient geeks who only desire it BECAUSE it is new and fresh.
My first instincts were these: "Oh wow, it's very nice... but it's not THAT amazing... it's just Android with a new look and a few new options - I can't *quite* see what all the impatience and fuss is about. "
Let me reiterate again; Lollipop is GREAT, but then, so is chocolate, and once you've eaten a bar, your desire tends to diminish, somewhat. Yeah... it's a new OS... but... ah, I dunno... just a lot of hoo haa as usual. I am *not* saying it is not a great OS, I am saying that the hype VASTLY VASTLY exaggerates one's sense of expectation (as I knew it would), and... well... don't get HUGELY excited - it's just Android how it always should have been.
No big deal - don't lose any sleep over it - and don't work yourselves into an impatience rage - it's SO not worth that, with all honesty.
Summary: Lollipop is a new version of Android. If you get excited beyond the point of calm, content, child-like anticipation, you're working yourself up for no reason.
That is all. Have a lovely day.

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Okay folks, I am as hardcore a geek as anyone else in here, I am certain of that. I am looking forward to Lollipop, and it is certainly a nice design and very pleasing to the eyes... but I don't quite understand why everyone is getting so completely tied up and impatient about it having not arrived, yet. I've used it on my 1st gen Moto G (XT1032) and yeah - it looks VERY nice... but... so what? What tangible and real benefits does it offer over what you all have now? I'm sorry - I am either missing something HUGE, or (which is more likely to be the real issue), we just have an internet of impatient geeks who only desire it BECAUSE it is new and fresh.
My first instincts were these: "Oh wow, it's very nice... but it's not THAT amazing... it's just Android with a new look and a few new options - I can't *quite* see what all the impatience and fuss is about. "
Let me reiterate again; Lollipop is GREAT, but then, so is chocolate, and once you've eaten a bar, your desire tends to diminish, somewhat. Yeah... it's a new OS... but... ah, I dunno... just a lot of hoo haa as usual. I am *not* saying it is not a great OS, I am saying that the hype VASTLY VASTLY exaggerates one's sense of expectation (as I knew it would), and... well... don't get HUGELY excited - it's just Android how it always should have been.
No big deal - don't lose any sleep over it - and don't work yourselves into an impatience rage - it's SO not worth that, with all honesty.
Summary: Lollipop is a new version of Android. If you get excited beyond the point of calm, content, child-like anticipation, you're working yourself up for no reason.
That is all. Have a lovely day.
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Never seen anyone wanting it so badly as you've described... They're just trying innovative methods to play around with their device...
This doesn't mean that some GURU should create a thread separately to tell people what they already know...
However, nice to see people like you caring so much about the community... But the thread has no purpose to serve...
Have a great day... :thumbup:
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vinaybaboo said:
Never seen anyone wanting it so badly as you've described... They're just trying innovative methods to play around with their device...
This doesn't mean that some GURU should create a thread separately to tell people what they already know...
However, nice to see people like you caring so much about the community... But the thread has no purpose to serve...
Have a great day... :thumbup:
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Not every thread has to have a black and white "purpose" - it's merely my ponderings over the situation - as a human thing - we all have wonderings and thoughts, and yes - MANY people are getting in a real state over this release, and I see no reason for it. That's all, and I just wanted to share my thoughts on the matter, in a calm, balanced manner.
PS: I am not a "guru", nor do I make any such pretense.

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Not every thread has to have a black and white "purpose" - it's merely my ponderings over the situation - as a human thing - we all have wonderings and thoughts, and yes - MANY people are getting in a real state over this release, and I see no reason for it. That's all, and I just wanted to share my thoughts on the matter, in a calm, balanced manner.
PS: I am not a "guru", nor do I make any such pretense.
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Every community needs people like us, buddy... We build this.
Being an internal employee I've been using the Lollipop over three weeks now... I personally feel that the memory management and battery has taken a huge leap here... So the effort put on this version is HUGE... They've done a pretty decent job...
Peace... :beer:
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vinaybaboo said:
Every community needs people like us, buddy... We build this.
Being an internal employee I've been using the Lollipop over three weeks now... I personally feel that the memory management and battery has taken a huge leap here... So the effort put on this version is HUGE... They've done a pretty decent job...
Peace... :beer:
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Thank you for your kindness and peaceful response. May God bless you my friend

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your reactions just affirm the general mood in XDA - stressful and irrational.
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Goodnesss me mate !!
If people are excited so much about the new update, let them be.
I can say for sure, that I'am sure as hell excited, about it. And am eagerly awaiting for it, VERY. MUCH. EAGERLY.
And I check the forums every.single.day.
And yeah Im an ''geek'' too.
But theres no need to blast no about it if the community is excited about it
Sure, you,ve got the KK but the atmosphere shown here on XDA ( excitement), is whats made it to, what it is today
No offence mate
Peace

Dont see a big objective of this thread.
Members,
Please dont open a thread to express your opinions. I hope you understand that XDA has a large number of users and we might end up with so many number of threads with opinions of everything visible which would be mostly useless for the others. NOT THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMUNITY
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