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Claims of WP7 from Tom_Codon march 2010

Well were coming up to to the month milestone of when Tom dropped the news of having WP7 running on his HD2.
I know I will get flamed for this, but I am niave and a part of me still despite no real proof being given, is hoping.
It would be great if we got some news/proof at the end of this month.
Seg

da_g and chainfire have stated this exists....
that's plenty of proof in my book imho

please people, let it go....nobody was gonna get wp7 on the hd2 before the news and so there is no difference if it was all a lie...
that said, i do belive in it, reputable people have said its true. just enjoy the damn device and when wp7 comes, it will come, and i would like to see a thread with all the non belivers apologising

I know some good reputable ppl have clearly stated that its true. I am not doubting them for a minute. I personally expected to hear or see something else since the initial statement. I do enjoy my device, I just love trying new things.
The conversation surrounding this, had died a little lately, so I thought I would spark up some more interesting conversation/debate.
Seg

Seg2009 said:
I know some good reputable ppl have clearly stated that its true. I am not doubting them for a minute. I personally expected to hear or see something else since the initial statement. I do enjoy my device, I just love trying new things.
The conversation surrounding this, had died a little lately, so I thought I would spark up some more interesting conversation/debate.
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Thats my oppinion.. but seems there is nothing you can do besides wait.
Cheers

chris5932 said:
Thats my oppinion.. but seems there is nothing you can do besides wait.
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I know mate. Thats the hardest part, waiting. Even more so, with no more information.
Seg

Seg2009 said:
I know mate. Thats the hardest part, waiting. Even more so, with no more information.
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I do feel the same way, totaly
It's in a way like christmas when I was young besides.. you knew when it would be
// I btw don't think this is leading us anywhere..

But thats just it, how can you EXPECT something from somebody when they dont owe you anything? you can expect customer service from HTC, or expect an official statement from HTC about wp7 (which we got), but you cant expect news about someones personal project...you arent paying them, they are doing it out the kindness of the heart and the passion they have for this phone...
well thats my opinion for example...i fix my friend's and family's computers from time to time for no charge. nobody can expect me to fix it in any reasonable time frame, nor even even expect it to be fixed at all, even if i say i can. if they do, then its really unnappretiative and its quite hurtful. alot of people did ***** about the videos of wp7 on the hd2, if it was me, i wouldnt even bother giving it to anyone, just on the fact that so many people grinded me down about it.

domineus said:
da_g and chainfire have stated this exists....
that's plenty of proof in my book imho
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I know that there is written record of da_g saying that. Is there one for Chainfire also? I thought that was just an unrecorded chat.

the_cool said:
But thats just it, how can you EXPECT something from somebody when they dont owe you anything? you can expect customer service from HTC, or expect an official statement from HTC about wp7 (which we got), but you cant expect news about someones personal project...you arent paying them, they are doing it out the kindness of the heart and the passion they have for this phone...
well thats my opinion for example...i fix my friend's and family's computers from time to time for no charge. nobody can expect me to fix it in any reasonable time frame, nor even even expect it to be fixed at all, even if i say i can. if they do, then its really unnappretiative and its quite hurtful. alot of people did ***** about the videos of wp7 on the hd2, if it was me, i wouldnt even bother giving it to anyone, just on the fact that so many people grinded me down about it.
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I think you have mis-interpreted my use of the the word "Expected" by this I meant "Hoped" or "Thought"
I do agree with you though, they don't owe us anything, and after the slagging off that some guys gave them, I would say F off to everyone.
Seg

ah ok, well yeh one can hope for it, thats all good! even i hope for it! well actually i dunno, when they said wp6 and wm6.5 isnt interchangeable made me decide not to go with wp7. but still, id love to see it! but even if they lied (which i keep stressing i dont think they are!), i wouldnt think less of them, none of us are really gettin affected and we have got alot from them anyway with wm6.5

ozkaya said:
I know that there is written record of da_g saying that. Is there one for Chainfire also? I thought that was just an unrecorded chat.
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yeah I asked him last week in a podcast he visited on ppcgeeks...said a lot including a test rom for tg01 which also makes a lot of sense. I've said on htcpedia that I wouldn't be surprised the devices we see in the fall are very similar to devices released LAST year with minor improvements in hardware (if that)
If the htc touch hd2 and the g01 were the true test devices that wp7 was based on, then as a developer I'd just go hey why do I need to make a new device? Use the old internals and I have a wp7 device. I think for early devices that's what is going to happen but again that's just my speculation on htc and toshiba. Dell et al probably have devices built from the ground up...
I mean I want to try wp7 too and its looking better and more fluid every single day that gives me hope that microsoft has made a better "coded" os that when unlocked will actually be more open than the devices we have right now. To get to that point will take time, but that's what xda is for. I mean zune hd is hacked, I expect wp7 to be hacked too. just depends on time and devices
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hoping this conversation remains civil because so far no flames no claims of it was publicity and I said on htcpedia again why does a site like that need publicity it averages in US daytime 250 members per hour! late night 125! a site like that doesn't need real advertising.
We can't say its an april fool either that's come and gone. so the only other logical outcome is that it exists there are some issues (lo and behold tom said there were graphics issues)
so I am waiting enjoying wp 6.5

Does anyone actually know Tom or Da_G or ITJE? Could they ask them for an update? Anything is better than nothing.
Seg

Seg2009 said:
Does anyone actually know Tom or Da_G or ITJE? Could they ask them for an update? Anything is better than nothing.
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I asked Itje a while ago, he doesn't know anything and told me that it is all up to tom and his team.
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chris5932 said:
I asked Itje a while ago, he doesn't know anything and told me that it is all up to tom and his team.
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I sent tom a message through pedia site, but he never got back to me, but there again, why would he? he doesn't know me from Adam.
Seg

Seg2009 said:
I sent tom a message through pedia site, but he never got back to me, but there again, why would he? he doesn't know me from Adam.
Seg
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I don't think your the only one who did so, myb hes still working down the list
Tom is the guy this is about.. no information from him or his team -> no information at all.. thats what is seems to be like
Since I don't know anyone to talk to him or one of his team members close, we can only wait and any disscusion is senseless.
Cheers

I just don't see the draw towards WM7. I stopped using the iPhone because the locked down environment... even after jailbreaking. WM6.5 w/ Sense is the BEST OS and GUI that I've used on a phone. It has usability elements while retaining the functionality of WM. It seems to me that M$ is moving backwards.

invalid_character said:
I just don't see the draw towards WM7. I stopped using the iPhone because the locked down environment... even after jailbreaking. WM6.5 w/ Sense is the BEST OS and GUI that I've used on a phone. It has usability elements while retaining the functionality of WM. It seems to me that M$ is moving backwards.
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Im with you 100% on that statement. I feel like M$ is turning into Apple.

I don't understand why you are talking like this actually..
Sure, WP7 is locked down OS with many disadvantages, I agree with that!
BUT it brings lots of new features and its going to have full flash support etc.
it's not all bad.. basically this whole thing is not part of this discussion!
This is about WP7 on hd2 which was claimed to be real by tom.
Cheers

Apart from the HD2 WP7 exists/doesn't exist...
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I don't get why there isn't any news from tom_codon or any other people and why they aren't releasing it..
Sincerely, I'm not understanding why tom_codon gave the news of WP7 on HD2.
I mean... okay, WP7 HD2 ROM does exist, noone apart tom_codon and some other people has got it, but why are you saying to all that it does exist if you can't/don't want to release it?
It's not so mature and smart in a community where all is shared and that lives on the ROM sharing to say "I've got WP7! But you won't get it! Hah!!"........ am I wrong?

dissapointed with fascinate

I am honestly dissapointed with my Fascinate, I bought it because I thought it was going to be very costumizable, with the open loader and all that, the reality is that most devs are not even putting attention to this phone, only a handfull are, I have had it since the first day that came out, and development for this phone is going really really slow, and full of issues.

Relax bro, all good things will come. I was able to mod my phone a lot because these devs are putting all they can into our phone's development.
We already have lag fixes, OC kernels, debloating tutorials, backlight mods, standard unlocking screens, etcetc. Not to mention plenty of themes, apps, and other cool things.
Just relax and take a breather. We got froyo on the way and developers are waiting for that so they can really unleash the beast.
Sent from my Fascinate using the official XDA Forum App.

WTF do you need that wasn't described in Post #2?
Don't say Froyo, because that's something EVERYONE wants. My phone does everything I want it to at a blazing speed, maybe you're just lazy and don't look into things deeper. IDK.

jorge3687 said:
I am honestly dissapointed with my Fascinate, I bought it because I thought it was going to be very costumizable, with the open loader and all that, the reality is that most devs are not even putting attention to this phone, only a handfull are, I have had it since the first day that came out, and development for this phone is going really really slow, and full of issues.
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wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I am very very very very very very happy with it. Only lacking .gif support in the browser. But that's what 2.2 is for.
good day. From the Fascinate sporting the XDA app.

if you want to customize your phone learn to make apps,themes, and what not your self.you can't customize your phone if you don't put effort into it. don't complain if you won't contribute and work at it
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mackeydesigns said:
WTF do you need that wasn't described in Post #2?
Don't say Froyo, because that's something EVERYONE wants. My phone does everything I want it to at a blazing speed, maybe you're just lazy and don't look into things deeper. IDK.
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Exactly. Or phones are more than capable, and this is without much overclocking and froyo. My phone is ridiculously fast and stable, and its one hell of a looker
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jt1134 said:
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Hahahaha <wipes tears>
I'm just happy to not have Bing. I'd let the devs have a round /w my wife for that.

Dynomike1 said:
Hahahaha <wipes tears>
I'm just happy to not have Bing. I'd let the devs have a round /w my wife for that.
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...you mean another round...right?
(Did nobody tell him?!?!)

Actually, there are devs but they don't have the froyo kernal to work with. SGS international version has the kernal leaked, that's why they have the froyo-beta-ish roms.

Redwing said:
...you mean another round...right?
(Did nobody tell him?!?!)
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Lol omg
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jorge3687 said:
I am honestly dissapointed with my Fascinate, I bought it because I thought it was going to be very costumizable, with the open loader and all that, the reality is that most devs are not even putting attention to this phone, only a handfull are, I have had it since the first day that came out, and development for this phone is going really really slow, and full of issues.
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Having come from an N1, which is inarguably the most dev friendly Android phone to date, I have to whole heartedly disagree with the OP. It is a little aggravating dealing with Voodoo now and then, and the processes are a little different, but all in all this phone is fantastic.
I have a custom bare-bone type rom built, fully themed and customized to my hearts content. Four installed launchers that each have a completely different style and feel which I can switch at will. OC Voodoo lag and color fix kernel running on interactive thanks to Jt, and plenty of mix and match mods and hacks to keep me flashing back and forth so frequently no one can actually call me.
We do only have a handful of devs working on the fascinate currently. They happen to also be pretty damn awesome, and give us plenty to work and play with.
I have to re-ask the question, what the hell are you actually looking to do that you can't?

jorge3687 said:
I am honestly dissapointed with my Fascinate, I bought it because I thought it was going to be very costumizable, with the open loader and all that, the reality is that most devs are not even putting attention to this phone, only a handfull are, I have had it since the first day that came out, and development for this phone is going really really slow, and full of issues.
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This guy seems to complain a lot, and doesn't really contribute to the conversation or development efforts. I'm going to decline to further feed the trolls...

Zennmaster said:
This guy seems to complain a lot, and doesn't really contribute to the conversation or development efforts. I'm going to decline to further feed the trolls...
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I think he is trying to come out of black screen issue.
good day.

How come everyone who has a bad experience, or is disapointed with there device gets called a troll? Isnt this the purpose of the Forums....to speak your opinion, learn a few things and see if anyone feels the same way?
I remember when everyone ...well people still do make fun of apple fan boyz because thats all they love is apple....but i have the feeling android fanz are becoming the same thing....close minded and haterz!!!
The purpose of android was openess and freedom....so wake up people the trolls are not those who complain about a priduct they paid good $$$$ money fir but are disapointed... the trolls are the haterz and people who beleive that there the best and there way is the only way!!!

Generally because you can sum up their complaints to a) why aren't devs giving me what I want now b) I have had my phone a month, understand very little but need to complain, or c) this phone sucks, I had my g1 for a year and we had tons of mods, dev r teh lazy.
So yeah, trolls.
If they were here to learn... The complaints wouldn't be their posting topics, they would be off learning. They are here to feed off others works and complain.
BingoDanny said:
How come everyone who has a bad experience, or is disapointed with there device gets called a troll? Isnt this the purpose of the Forums....to speak your opinion, learn a few things and see if anyone feels the same way?
I remember when everyone ...well people still do make fun of apple fan boyz because thats all they love is apple....but i have the feeling android fanz are becoming the same thing....close minded and haterz!!!
The purpose of android was openess and freedom....so wake up people the trolls are not those who complain about a priduct they paid good $$$$ money fir but are disapointed... the trolls are the haterz and people who beleive that there the best and there way is the only way!!!
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I gotta disagree with you, the thread is posted in the general section. If hes disapointed with the phone. I think its good if he tells us why. Im disapointed not because of support with the phone but because alot of stuff out the box doesnt work as advertised.....gps lag etc............and yes there are lag fixes but i paid top $$$ for it to work out the box not for me to go find a fix.
either way i think the word troll is used to freely.

BingoDanny said:
I gotta disagree with you, the thread is posted in the general section. If hes disapointed with the phone. I think its good if he tells us why. Im disapointed not because of support with the phone but because alot of stuff out the box doesnt work as advertised.....gps lag etc............and yes there are lag fixes but i paid top $$$ for it to work out the box not for me to go find a fix.
either way i think the word troll is used to freely.
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I agree with you about the general section & out of the box comment. Its just that there are many other threads with the same topic. But he has the right to post this question, and I was merely asking what was wrong with the phone according to him. Out of the box, the phone is still very capable and it honestly doesnt need to be modded. But the mods are very nice.
Also what phone is perfect stock? There's always cons, and that's why we're on the forums looking for answers.
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no phone is perfect.... that's why were all always going to complain lolol
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Exactly if there was any phone close to perfect for me out would be this. The iPhone is totally out of the picture.

Date of ics

Was it not normally not fated that our A500’s where going to be the first devices with an update to ics? I see that the asus eee-pad now also had an update on a date that surprises everyone! Why can acer not do it so quick?
And could somebody say now the exact date of the update on our device please and not the fake polish forum threads with fake dates ?
Greets

acer never said it would be the first to get ICS, they said the update would be in January and the media jumped on it being one of the first. If you think it is easy for updates to roll out then by all means apply for a job with acer, but personally I'd rather have it tried and tested with good quality assurance than the usual buggy crap put out by communities such as this.

I'm Sorry Alienwithin, did you not read the name of this site - XDA-DEVELOPERS...
If you think the roms that the devs are kind enough to share are buggy and crap then please feel free to bugger off...

essevee said:
Was it not normally not fated that our A500’s where going to be the first devices with an update to ics? I see that the asus eee-pad now also had an update on a date that surprises everyone! Why can acer not do it so quick?
And could somebody say now the exact date of the update on our device please and not the fake polish forum threads with fake dates ?
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Acer will deliver ICS to us in 21 days, 13 hours, 23 minutes, and 12 seconds

I will get here when it does. Worring about it it's not gonna make it faster. The last thing I heard is that will be either this month or the next, so just sit and wait like the rest of us.
Sent From Rob's DarkSided ATRIX.

And there is a pretty damn good ROM out must not on here
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Ice Cream Sandwich
What are you talking about..I got mine last
night..​They have a fridge full at Grocery store..
Its incrediable that you think someone in here knows when or if it will come.. there are threads arguing this all over the ICONIA FORUMS . Not just on XDA.. as said alot by most the Search Tool SAY google.com.. IS YOUR BEST Resource to THE WORLD..
and does not give you Attitude OR LAME ANSWERS LIKE MINE..

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I'm Sorry Alienwithin, did you not read the name of this site - XDA-DEVELOPERS...
If you think the roms that the devs are kind enough to share are buggy and crap then please feel free to bugger off...
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Kind enough to share or not, most custom roms ARE buggy and garbage. I'm very picky about my custom roms, and the iconia community is lucky that most of the roms are from the same couple people who know what they are doing and update with bug fixes when one is found. The g2 community? Not so lucky, lots of trash roms available there.
Let me put it this way, if i make a dinner that commonly causes people to puke and serve it at a homeless shelter should they just be glad i brought food or should they tell me it was disgusting and made them vomit? Same with roms, if it sucks, it sucks.

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Acer will deliver ICS to us in 21 days, 13 hours, 23 minutes, and 12 seconds
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I set a timer on the numbers you gave us, and if I hadn't got the ICS update from Acer when that timer expired, I'll sue you in small claim court on Mars.

Just contacted acer live support, someone called Uma Mahesh responded that it will be available in february. Also he or she said that it will pop when it is available. I couldnt take a screen shot, so no evidence. But if u are curious u can ask too, they are quick for answering.

hopefully in feb. asus and archos are already scheduled for a feb. ics release.

ctiger said:
I set a timer on the numbers you gave us, and if I hadn't got the ICS update from Acer when that timer expired, I'll sue you in small claim court on Mars.
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lol Sorry, I'm living on Venus with my 500 wives, and 600 GFs. We don't recognize Mars law here!

i swear it seems like there's a new thread asking when ICS will be released like everyday....can you guys stop asking and try to search or google instead? LOL everytime i open the thread thinking that someone is gonna confirm the release date....and everytime I get disappointed

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Kind enough to share or not, most custom roms ARE buggy and garbage. I'm very picky about my custom roms, and the iconia community is lucky that most of the roms are from the same couple people who know what they are doing and update with bug fixes when one is found. The g2 community? Not so lucky, lots of trash roms available there.
Let me put it this way, if i make a dinner that commonly causes people to puke and serve it at a homeless shelter should they just be glad i brought food or should they tell me it was disgusting and made them vomit? Same with roms, if it sucks, it sucks.
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Then go out and make your own.... Just remember what you said, and make sure you leave time for your family, university(if you go), your job and other commitments...
This is a developement forum... The devs are doing this at the expense of their time and effort. Some are VERY good at what they do, others are just experimenting and trying to improve.... They rely on our feed back as much as we rely on them NOT to brick our devices, however, accidents can, and will, happen...
Now, back on track...
Can't wait for the ICS upgrade and to see what will get cooked up... Just from reading this is a big thing from the developers perspective.
Liking the fact I can use the bio-metric lock...
Hoping it comes out soon as it's like christmas eve, having all the presents to open but having to wait til the morning... I know, I'm just a big kid....

My question is does anyone know if you will be able to naturally move apps to the SD with the update. Or is this just another Acer mystery?
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Erica Renee is The VENUS GODDESS
kjy2010 said:
lol Sorry, I'm living on Venus with my 500 wives, and 600 GFs. We don't recognize Mars law here!
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We DO not ALLOW men here.. Why do you think we send SOME OF our women to earth.. Only to make more hot chics and bring them back to our wonderful No male Drama Planet.. The above information is True to the best of my knowledge. If you are a disbeliever its due to the fact you were programmed to think such lies..
Stop with the Lies lies lies .. i tell you its all lies
My Ics taste better then YOURS...

Erica, how then does the oil get changed on your cars on this planet of yours? ;D

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Erica, how then does the oil get changed on your cars on this planet of yours? ;D
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We have women mechanics... pSSSSSSSSS ....
I dont want to turn this thread in to a this type of discussion. But Yes there are some jobs women Should not due because of physical ability.. We are just not as strong as men.. I can say this because i struggle with lifting and so at my VERY Male type job.. but working on CARS IS NOT One of those jobs..
A short skirt and a smile can get a guy to do anything im not able. And they will enjoy doing it..
Giggles..

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We have women mechanics... pSSSSSSSSS ....
I dont want to turn this thread in to a this type of discussion. But Yes there are some jobs women Should not due because of physical ability.. We are just not as strong as men.. I can say this because i struggle with lifting and so at my VERY Male type job.. but working on CARS IS NOT One of those jobs..
A short skirt and a smile can get a guy to do anything im not able. And they will enjoy doing it..
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totaly sexist..... unfortunatrly true

Excuse me, but I used to work on cars.

Why the panicked frenzy for Lollipop?

Okay folks, I am as hardcore a geek as anyone else in here, I am certain of that. I am looking forward to Lollipop, and it is certainly a nice design and very pleasing to the eyes... but I don't quite understand why everyone is getting so completely tied up and impatient about it having not arrived, yet. I've used it on my 1st gen Moto G (XT1032) and yeah - it looks VERY nice... but... so what? What tangible and real benefits does it offer over what you all have now? I'm sorry - I am either missing something HUGE, or (which is more likely to be the real issue), we just have an internet of impatient geeks who only desire it BECAUSE it is new and fresh.
My first instincts were these: "Oh wow, it's very nice... but it's not THAT amazing... it's just Android with a new look and a few new options - I can't *quite* see what all the impatience and fuss is about. "
Let me reiterate again; Lollipop is GREAT, but then, so is chocolate, and once you've eaten a bar, your desire tends to diminish, somewhat. Yeah... it's a new OS... but... ah, I dunno... just a lot of hoo haa as usual. I am *not* saying it is not a great OS, I am saying that the hype VASTLY VASTLY exaggerates one's sense of expectation (as I knew it would), and... well... don't get HUGELY excited - it's just Android how it always should have been.
No big deal - don't lose any sleep over it - and don't work yourselves into an impatience rage - it's SO not worth that, with all honesty.
Summary: Lollipop is a new version of Android. If you get excited beyond the point of calm, content, child-like anticipation, you're working yourself up for no reason.
That is all. Have a lovely day.

glossywhite said:
Okay folks, I am as hardcore a geek as anyone else in here, I am certain of that. I am looking forward to Lollipop, and it is certainly a nice design and very pleasing to the eyes... but I don't quite understand why everyone is getting so completely tied up and impatient about it having not arrived, yet. I've used it on my 1st gen Moto G (XT1032) and yeah - it looks VERY nice... but... so what? What tangible and real benefits does it offer over what you all have now? I'm sorry - I am either missing something HUGE, or (which is more likely to be the real issue), we just have an internet of impatient geeks who only desire it BECAUSE it is new and fresh.
My first instincts were these: "Oh wow, it's very nice... but it's not THAT amazing... it's just Android with a new look and a few new options - I can't *quite* see what all the impatience and fuss is about. "
Let me reiterate again; Lollipop is GREAT, but then, so is chocolate, and once you've eaten a bar, your desire tends to diminish, somewhat. Yeah... it's a new OS... but... ah, I dunno... just a lot of hoo haa as usual. I am *not* saying it is not a great OS, I am saying that the hype VASTLY VASTLY exaggerates one's sense of expectation (as I knew it would), and... well... don't get HUGELY excited - it's just Android how it always should have been.
No big deal - don't lose any sleep over it - and don't work yourselves into an impatience rage - it's SO not worth that, with all honesty.
Summary: Lollipop is a new version of Android. If you get excited beyond the point of calm, content, child-like anticipation, you're working yourself up for no reason.
That is all. Have a lovely day.
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Never seen anyone wanting it so badly as you've described... They're just trying innovative methods to play around with their device...
This doesn't mean that some GURU should create a thread separately to tell people what they already know...
However, nice to see people like you caring so much about the community... But the thread has no purpose to serve...
Have a great day... :thumbup:
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vinaybaboo said:
Never seen anyone wanting it so badly as you've described... They're just trying innovative methods to play around with their device...
This doesn't mean that some GURU should create a thread separately to tell people what they already know...
However, nice to see people like you caring so much about the community... But the thread has no purpose to serve...
Have a great day... :thumbup:
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Not every thread has to have a black and white "purpose" - it's merely my ponderings over the situation - as a human thing - we all have wonderings and thoughts, and yes - MANY people are getting in a real state over this release, and I see no reason for it. That's all, and I just wanted to share my thoughts on the matter, in a calm, balanced manner.
PS: I am not a "guru", nor do I make any such pretense.

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Not every thread has to have a black and white "purpose" - it's merely my ponderings over the situation - as a human thing - we all have wonderings and thoughts, and yes - MANY people are getting in a real state over this release, and I see no reason for it. That's all, and I just wanted to share my thoughts on the matter, in a calm, balanced manner.
PS: I am not a "guru", nor do I make any such pretense.
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Every community needs people like us, buddy... We build this.
Being an internal employee I've been using the Lollipop over three weeks now... I personally feel that the memory management and battery has taken a huge leap here... So the effort put on this version is HUGE... They've done a pretty decent job...
Peace... :beer:
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vinaybaboo said:
Every community needs people like us, buddy... We build this.
Being an internal employee I've been using the Lollipop over three weeks now... I personally feel that the memory management and battery has taken a huge leap here... So the effort put on this version is HUGE... They've done a pretty decent job...
Peace... :beer:
Sent from my XT1068 using XDA Free mobile app
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Thank you for your kindness and peaceful response. May God bless you my friend

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your reactions just affirm the general mood in XDA - stressful and irrational.
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Goodnesss me mate !!
If people are excited so much about the new update, let them be.
I can say for sure, that I'am sure as hell excited, about it. And am eagerly awaiting for it, VERY. MUCH. EAGERLY.
And I check the forums every.single.day.
And yeah Im an ''geek'' too.
But theres no need to blast no about it if the community is excited about it
Sure, you,ve got the KK but the atmosphere shown here on XDA ( excitement), is whats made it to, what it is today
No offence mate
Peace

Dont see a big objective of this thread.
Members,
Please dont open a thread to express your opinions. I hope you understand that XDA has a large number of users and we might end up with so many number of threads with opinions of everything visible which would be mostly useless for the others. NOT THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMUNITY
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Just wanted to say thanks

Well, I'm off to greener unlocked pastures, I just ordered my Nexus 6 yesterday afternoon and will get it in on Monday. With that said, I wanted to thank everyone here for listening to my rants, and hope I contributed in some way to the conversation. The G4 is a great phone, but it's potential is simply wasted by organizations that love to stifle innovation. God forbid if dev's actually come up with a better ROM with better features than the OEM provides, maybe they don't want to be embarrassed. I hope those who are sticking with their G4 get it unlocked and rooted soon, and squeeze every bit the G4 is capable of out of it. Good luck everyone!

LOL pointless post.

Ah, so you're the reason we'll be getting root this weekend. :fingers-crossed: Thanks for taking one for the team.

lmao!
I hope it's really happening
spotmark said:
Ah, so you're the reason we'll be getting root this weekend. :fingers-crossed: Thanks for taking one for the team.
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spotmark said:
Ah, so you're the reason we'll be getting root this weekend. :fingers-crossed: Thanks for taking one for the team.
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What is this root news you speak of Spotmark?
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dlscott1111 said:
What is this root news you speak of Spotmark?
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Right here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/info-lg-g4-korea-variant-rooted-anable-t3163925. OP has confirmed that it will work on all variants. Now we just have to wait on a tool, or instructions.

I like lamp

painedglass said:
Well, I'm off to greener unlocked pastures, I just ordered my Nexus 6 yesterday afternoon and will get it in on Monday. With that said, I wanted to thank everyone here for listening to my rants, and hope I contributed in some way to the conversation. The G4 is a great phone, but it's potential is simply wasted by organizations that love to stifle innovation. God forbid if dev's actually come up with a better ROM with better features than the OEM provides, maybe they don't want to be embarrassed. I hope those who are sticking with their G4 get it unlocked and rooted soon, and squeeze every bit the G4 is capable of out of it. Good luck everyone!
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Man, some people are impatient. Enjoy a year old phone with subpar camera and features.
Sent from my G4 using your mom

Dennisg34 said:
Man, some people are impatient. Enjoy a year old phone with subpar camera and features.
Sent from my G4 using your mom
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Nah, has nothing to do with patience and everything to do with the OEM's and Carriers. I'm tired of locked down phones that they wont allow us to use as we please. Most of us know the consequence of a botched unlock/root so that point is a wash. It's about the control, and monetization, even after full purchase. If I buy a phone outright from T-Mobile, I should be able to do anything with the phone I want, to include throwing on a ROM, most of which are superior to the bloated crap put out by the OEM and carrier. While I love the camera on the G4, and no doubt the G4's overall experience is superior, I refuse to play their game anymore.

auggie246 said:
LOL pointless post.
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Which is more pointless, the OP or the bonehead who replied?

painedglass said:
Which is more pointless, the OP or the bonehead who replied?
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Come to think of it now... neither, just you

spotmark said:
Right here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/info-lg-g4-korea-variant-rooted-anable-t3163925. OP has confirmed that it will work on all variants. Now we just have to wait on a tool, or instructions.
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Good luck and enjoy, hope you guys get root quick!! :highfive:

painedglass said:
Well, I'm off to greener unlocked pastures, I just ordered my Nexus 6 yesterday afternoon and will get it in on Monday. With that said, I wanted to thank everyone here for listening to my rants, and hope I contributed in some way to the conversation. The G4 is a great phone, but it's potential is simply wasted by organizations that love to stifle innovation. God forbid if dev's actually come up with a better ROM with better features than the OEM provides, maybe they don't want to be embarrassed. I hope those who are sticking with their G4 get it unlocked and rooted soon, and squeeze every bit the G4 is capable of out of it. Good luck everyone!
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I came from the nexus 6. Great phone, already felt dated to me knowing 2 new variants around the corner.
Not being able to see whats on the screen in sunlight and issues with glass screen protectors had me looking.
Hopefully the huawei nexus 6 2015 will be affordable, more modern, legible in sunlight and have a better camera.
Locked stock my F500L has been great. Now with F500K rooted.. Ill get adaway and a few root apps installed any happier.

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Nah, has nothing to do with patience and everything to do with the OEM's and Carriers. I'm tired of locked down phones that they wont allow us to use as we please. Most of us know the consequence of a botched unlock/root so that point is a wash. It's about the control, and monetization, even after full purchase. If I buy a phone outright from T-Mobile, I should be able to do anything with the phone I want, to include throwing on a ROM, most of which are superior to the bloated crap put out by the OEM and carrier. While I love the camera on the G4, and no doubt the G4's overall experience is superior, I refuse to play their game anymore.
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Although I think putting up a post about how you're bailing on the G4 is silly, (much like people who put up posts about how much they hate a forum and are leaving, what are we supposed to beg you to stay? ), I get where you're coming from with taking a stand against carrier oppression. I also will write a company off quick if I feel they have wronged me or have business practices I don't like. Precisely why I refuse to shop at Wal-Mart.
Good luck with your new phone dude. I can't fault you for having principles.

darien87 said:
Although I think putting up a post about how you're bailing on the G4 is silly, (much like people who put up posts about how much they hate a forum and are leaving, what are we supposed to beg you to stay? ), I get where you're coming from with taking a stand against carrier oppression. I also will write a company off quick if I feel they have wronged me or have business practices I don't like. Precisely why I refuse to shop at Wal-Mart.
Good luck with your new phone dude. I can't fault you for having principles.
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It was part rant/rage against the machine thing and a thanks to a really great community. I have nothing but respect for everyone here and I know everyone will get root-unlock-roms, thanks to talented dev's but I'm just so tired of the crap.
I thought a long time about this and simply made a personal choice not to support OEM's who lock down their phones, nothing more, nothing less. Yeah it sounds like a hissy fit but whatever, I dont live vicariously through xda so I'm not
butt hurt by comments some people make. Anyway, take care and good luck!

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It was part rant/rage against the machine thing and a thanks to a really great community. I have nothing but respect for everyone here and I know everyone will get root-unlock-roms, thanks to talented dev's but I'm just so tired of the crap.
I thought a long time about this and simply made a personal choice not to support OEM's who lock down their phones, nothing more, nothing less. Yeah it sounds like a hissy fit but whatever, I dont live vicariously through xda so I'm not
butt hurt by comments some people make. Anyway, take care and good luck!
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I agree with you, I don't like how they lock down phones and try to control what you should do with it. Companies shouldn't release a phone if they want to control how you use it. Not the mention the huge amount of bugs this phone has. Makes LG seem quite pathetic.
I do like LG's other products though lol, their washing machines, microwaves, and fridges are pretty good!

painedglass said:
It was part rant/rage against the machine thing and a thanks to a really great community. I have nothing but respect for everyone here and I know everyone will get root-unlock-roms, thanks to talented dev's but I'm just so tired of the crap.
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Wait for root, unlock whatever, THEN get the phone. Why is that so hard to figure out for some people.
Wait for NEXT nexus model, then get it.
Obviously you have a problem with waiting.