Hi!
I wanted to ask if ForceDoze (a root-less app that forces Doze to kick in instantly when you turn on the screen and to ignore motion sensors so it's not interrupted, even in your pocket) is still usefull in Oreo for the S8, or if Oreo's Doze already works like this. The app was last updated a year ago and the developer didn't mention anything about Oreo.
Not sure exactly what u need.
But for non root s8, greenify has force doze. Need to adb it.
Do we need to force doze to kick in instantly, or is it better to be left alone in Oreo?
????? does force doze work in oreo?????
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This is garbage, my 6P will not sleep anymore on 6.0.1. I am stock, rooted, ElementalX, and Xposed.
Not running anything to crazy but this wakelock is destroying my battery. Anything I can do short of a factory reset?
It's related to your location services. Do you have high accuracy for all apps? Maybe have location history enabled on Google Maps
I have both enabled. Prior to 6.0.1 this was a non issue. I have the same settings on my Nexus 9 on 6.0.1 and the device will not be held awake :/
This has been driving me nuts lately too. 6.0.1 stock rooted. The only solution I've found so far is Amplify to limit the wakelock but I'd like to keep Android Pay working... At least until they change root detection methods.
Probably a little late to this thread but I have a possible reason for this issue... I am not a developer so this is only based on my practical experiments..
I used to face this problem till very recently on my Nexus 6p.. no matter which kernel or ROM I use... some nights the phone doesn't sleep at all and then I see the culprit is nlpcollector wakelock. If I restart, the problem goes away for a day or two but then comes back again...
Then I noticed that every post I have seen with this issue on the internet has related to people with rooted phones (else you wouldn't be able to use BBS ) and most had made modifications to the doze parameters (using whichever app).. So I reset my doze parameters to default.. Since the last 2 weeks I haven't seen this issue anymore..
My guess is that one of my customized doze parameters is breaking the functionality but I can't figure out which one.. Tried resetting only the location based parameters but the wakelock returns.. My only solution is to reset all the doze settings..
Obviously the other solution is to set up xposed and download amplify or other such apps to block the wakelock.. I haven't tried it but should work..
PS - I still have location history on and location set to high accuracy. So that is not the culprit.
Dear Brother,
Yesterday I have tried to install the latest Greenify in my LG V20 H990N. I found that the battery drain speed is very fast. Before I install the Greenify, the battery can sustain for 1 day but now it has reduced to not more than half day.
Would you please advise whether LG V20 has built-in software that similar to Greenify or suggest some software which has similar function to Greenify to make the software inactivate.
I've got problem with Greenify.
Automatic hibernation doesn't work well with second screen, it disable the main feature of the screen: to see notification while main screen turned off.
Also fingerprint unlock sometimes failed.
do we still need in N? I thought doze was a similar feature
Do you guys still use Greenify? Non root and rooted S8 users.
I don't use it anymore. I think the Device Manager does a good job.
i have it installed but it isn't activated/in-use. i wanted to wait to see how the phone managed itself first and so far it's leaps and bounds better than my S6 Edge. if things stay stable i will probably remove Greenify all-together.
I've been wondering if anyone has used it. I have been using it for years on my rooted Droid turbo with great success. Just wondering if none root mode is worth it.
I used it as non-root user, now I use it as root user. It's good to be sure that no app will stay awake and drain my battery, that's why I've never stopped using Greenify
I think it depends.
With wakelock detectors, greenify it self do cause a lot of wakelocks.. Not to mention that now days many apps manage to go around Greenify methods of hibernation.
It do worth if you have a rough app that keep waking up.
If you don't, it's better to be off.
I my self still have it instaled, but as i freeze the apps that go rogue (like play store) and unfreeze when i want to use it.. i'm one step to make a TB of it and uninstall
Coming from a Note 9 on android Oreo I've notice none of my apps stays open in the task manager on my S10+. I will find all the apps I had open in the background gone after a few hours, even if I locked them in place from clearing all. This is super annoying! I don't know if its a Android Pie issue, new Samsung issue or just my phone alone.
I am currently set to high performance mode, adaptive battery is toggle off, sleeping apps is off, and auto optimization is also toggle off.
No issues here, multitasking works as it should.
Yes, this is an issue and it is an Android Pie issue. Even if you have sufficient memory, apps that are unused for a few hours will shut down completely. I see this on my Essential PH-1 as well, and have seen it on other devices too. It's extremely annoying and there is no way to turn off this behaviour. Shutting off all app optimizations and excluding from optimizations, sleep, etc. does not bypass it.
So I broke my old Note 4 that I used at work. I'm now dusting off my daughter's old S7 Edge to use that, upgraded to latest firmware, used CCSW to disable all what I consider crapware, and now I have a question. Since this is running Oreo the battery and data optimization is not as complex as what we have recently (my "weekend" phone is a Note 10 running Android 11), so should I still use Greenify to control my running apps or is the battery optimization in Oreo is good enough without the need for an "extra" app running in the background to control that. I appreciate everyone's opinion!
Lol, that app and a 3rd party launcher were the prime suspects in 2 back to back boot loops on my N10+ Never again.
Not sure about Oreo but power management always causes issues in Pie including poor battery life.
I simply close app when done with them and Android does fine.
Any apps that don't behave under those terms I deal with on a case by case basis. Some are uninstalled or temporarily/permanently disabled.
Google Framework, Play Services and Playstore are habitual offenders.
Play with it and see what's using the battery, go from there. Maybe it will behave better than you expect.
blackhawk said:
Lol, that app and a 3rd party launcher were the prime suspects in 2 back to back boot loops on my N10+ Never again.
Not sure about Oreo but power management always causes issues in Pie including poor battery life.
I simply close app when done with them and Android does fine.
Any apps that don't behave under those terms I deal with on a case by case basis. Some are uninstalled or temporarily/permanently disabled.
Google Framework, Play Services and Playstore are habitual offenders.
Play with it and see what's using the battery, go from there. Maybe it will behave better than you expect.
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Thx for the reply. Yes, besides CCSW to disable apps that either I consider crapware or apps that I use rarely, I don't use Greenify or other "battery saving" apps on my Note10. I feel that Pie and above has way better management options for apps that previous Android releases. If I close all my apps on "recents" and reboot my phone and let it sit there overnight I get only a 2-3% drop in my battery. That tells that battery is well managed.
Now for this old S7 on Oreo well I dont have many options in the apps settings besides the battery optimization switch. That's why I'm debating if I should use Greenify or not to have better control of apps that I really dont want running on the background but still want to receive notifications when they arrive.
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Thx for the reply. Yes, besides CCSW to disable apps that either I consider crapware or apps that I use rarely, I don't use Greenify or other "battery saving" apps on my Note10. I feel that Pie and above has way better management options for apps that previous Android releases. If I close all my apps on "recents" and reboot my phone and let it sit there overnight I get only a 2-3% drop in my battery. That tells that battery is well managed.
Now for this old S7 on Oreo well I dont have many options in the apps settings besides the battery optimization switch. That's why I'm debating if I should use Greenify or not to have better control of apps that I really dont want running on the background but still want to receive notifications when they arrive.
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I reboot my 10+ every few days or if it acts up... no reboot in 3-5 days can do that
At night I simply close all open apps although I do that throughout the day as well. I use Device Care to do clean ups every 2-3 days. Other than clearing the system cache that's about as much system maintenance as I do.
I also police the download folder daily and once a month scan with Malwarebytes. A very low maintenance, clean running system.
Greenify worried me as it wasn't seamless or fast and running at boot up means it had the capability to boot loop the device. If I never see another boot loop it won't be missed...
Maybe on an older OS you would see tangible power savings but it didn't do much for me on Pie.
In the end, tracking the power hogs down and dealing with them on a case by case basis did.
I run with Google play Services disabled 98% of the time now. It nets me about 2%@hr better battery life.
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I feel that Pie and above has way better management options for apps that previous Android releases.
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On my N10+ ruunong on Pie, all Device Care power management toggles are turn off except for fast charging.
The power mode is always set to "Optimize".