Coming from a Note 9 on android Oreo I've notice none of my apps stays open in the task manager on my S10+. I will find all the apps I had open in the background gone after a few hours, even if I locked them in place from clearing all. This is super annoying! I don't know if its a Android Pie issue, new Samsung issue or just my phone alone.
I am currently set to high performance mode, adaptive battery is toggle off, sleeping apps is off, and auto optimization is also toggle off.
No issues here, multitasking works as it should.
Yes, this is an issue and it is an Android Pie issue. Even if you have sufficient memory, apps that are unused for a few hours will shut down completely. I see this on my Essential PH-1 as well, and have seen it on other devices too. It's extremely annoying and there is no way to turn off this behaviour. Shutting off all app optimizations and excluding from optimizations, sleep, etc. does not bypass it.
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Hey guys - I am having a problem with my phone, and I am hoping someone can help? (Running stock/no-root, w/2.3.4)
A few weeks prior to the 2.3.4 release (while on 2.3.3), I noticed that an app called Bump was constantly running in the background (even though I had never launched the app before), and I'd have to constantly go in and manually kill it.
*Also I should note, Google Maps was another constant running app, that I would have to manually kill along with the Bump app.
This got tiresome, and since I wasn't using Bump anyway, I went ahead and uninstalled it. I figured that a recent update to the app/Bump, was the cause. After removing the Bump app, the problem went away (as well as the Google Maps stopped running in the background too - odd I know).
Anyway, the problem is back, but much worse this time - as this past couple of days, my phone is now running a bunch of apps in the background out of the blue!
1) Tango
2) To Market Lite
3) Google Market (even though I have Accounts & Sync/Background Data turned off)
4) Google Music
5) YouTube
6) Photaf
*Note: I have not launched any of the apps listed above in awhile, except for Google Market, which I turn on Background Data for this, and then turn off when I am done.
I have since removed Tango, but it hasn't solved the problem. It seems to happen the most when I turn my phone on (after I reboot, or if I charge over night with the phone turned off), but also will happen when phone is on during the day - with no reboot.
Anyone have an idea what's causing this, or how to fix it? TIA!
The best way to fix this is to stop worrying about it.
Apps do sometimes run in the background or have services waiting for some events to happen - it actuially HELPS battery life and performance and barely consumes any CPU cycles until something happens that triggers the app.
Killing them will drain your battery and make you crazy, more than letting the apps work as designed will.
patrixl said:
The best way to fix this is to stop worrying about it.
Apps do sometimes run in the background or have services waiting for some events to happen - it actuially HELPS battery life and performance and barely consumes any CPU cycles until something happens that triggers the app.
Killing them will drain your battery and make you crazy, more than letting the apps work as designed will.
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Thank you for the feedback. I just found it odd that this just started happening, especially since some of the apps running were apps I haven't launched in ages (or ever used).
Also (and I forgot to mention in my post above), that a couple of the apps were running so hardcore - that it set off the alarm in Watchdog, as an app draining my battery and memory - telling me to kill it. So idk what to think, other than I find this behavior a bit odd.
Many of them are set to run based on conditions, like bootup, wifi on, widget added, etc. If you hate it, download autostarts from the market.
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i have a similar issue but as stated above i just leave them alone
Hey all,
So I've had my S8 since launch and I've enjoyed it but I have an issue that I've been trying to pinpoint the cause of for a few weeks now. At a high level, if I reboot the phone in the morning, I can use it all day as I wish and it works perfectly, no slowdown anywhere and good battery life. I plug the phone in at night when I go to sleep and when I wake up I start using it again. Either right after I wake up or over the course of a few hours the phone begins to slow down with things like notification shade/app switcher crawling until I either a) reboot or b) change display resolution. Doing either of these "fixes" it until the next night and then again when I wake up I have the same issues.
I've been trying to figure out what's causing this. I've tried disabling features, uninstalling apps, etc.
One thing I have found is that when I'm having this problem if I force close 'System UI' in App Manager (this is just restarting that process since you can't kill it really) the smoothness comes back but it doesn't last as long as when I either reboot or change resolution.
My theory is that something is conflicting with the Android UI and over time it's causing it to slow down. Rebooting or changing display resolution restarts the Android UI so essentially same thing.
My first question is has anyone seen this behavior where the notification shade/app switcher (native UI not apps) slow down? I know there's at least some people on Reddit with same issue. If you have this issue does FC'ing System UI 'fix' it for you temporarily?
I'm trying to figure out what is running on my phone while I'm sleeping at night which is obviously causing this. Any ideas would be helpful. Oh also when I wake up and I go into app switcher it only shows like 3 cards where before I go to bed it would be like 10+ so something is killing apps at night too. I turned off Google backup for today and will reboot before tonight to see if maybe that's it.
Appreciate your help.
Thanks.
I've had my S8+ since the launch weekend on ATT, always connected to my Gear S3, and connected to my Misfit Ray. I've not noticed any slowdown of the UI. My AOD clock is slow to show the hands if the screen is off when I use the numerical clock AOD, but nothing else observed.
I would guess you've installed (or haven't uninstalled/disabled) some apps that are using a lot of background processes. I removed/disabled the few ATT apps on the device except Call Protect, and I don't use Gmail (resource hog). I actually use very few Google apps, they're just not very well coded, it seems (maybe a "goof off" day every week isn't such a great policy?)
In settings, go to Device maintenance, click on battery, and see if anything strange is going on there under App power monitor.
I've NEVER liked Samsung phones, and I've NEVER been interested in owning one, but I saw the Galaxy Gear S3 and fell in love, and truthfully, I bought the phone as an accessory to the watch, so I'm not an apologist for any shortcomings.
Instead of restarting, go to settings/device maintenance, what's the percentage here? go to optimize, does it help? which apps use the battery most? How much RAM is available. If nothing shows up, you probably would need something like wakelock detector (it needs root) to trace apps usage, especially at night. Also you could try to force stop other apps and see which one is interfering? For example phone is slow, force stop first 10 apps, if not fixed force stop next 10, if fixed, next time force stop one at the time from that batch of tens.
Mines just started doing this the other day. I think I have an idea if the problem, I'm just trying to find proof at this point. I recently downloaded this all to let me see the upload/download speeds if my network in the notification bar. It lets you set the refresh rate, to which I set it to 2 seconds, which I knew regardless would tax my system, I just didn't expect my ui to slow to a crawl.
Delete any Bixby remapping app as well, known to cause many issues including unpredictable lag.
You're busy and don't have time to wait, which is why you need to stop reading this thread and get back to organizing your Pogs. Rate this thread to express how the Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite performs when multitasking. A higher rating indicates that the Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite keeps many apps in memory so that they don't need to reload, and that when moving between apps, transitions are smooth and performance is excellent.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I noticed recently that I have very few apps open in recents. It seems to me like the phone is killing apps prematurely. Thankfully, app launch times are not that bad, so even with reloading it is not terrible.
Hello, I'm creating an account in order to give my real-life review of this phone. The previous phones I had were HTC One M8, LG G6.
Ram management in this phone is not the best in the world. I am not the kind of guy to tap of “clear all apps” all of the time. But if you keep an app open in the background and let it sit of half a day, it will have to reload.
While I pretty much never exceeds 3.5GB of ram usage, I wish apps could be kept open without reloading.
i have 4gb of ram its very smooth phone
I changed LMK profil in Kernel Auditor to Light and turned off adaptive LMK and changed to 0mb for foreground and visible applications and I can use full ram whitout app reloading, but the phone is still smooth and fast and stable.
I have a problem with multitasking.... Processes of all apps turns off right after leaving them. Tried everything, went through all battery settings, developer's settings and such. Tried every option. Multitasking is simply impossible on Mi A2 Lite (Pie 9.0). Apps turns off instantly after I leave them. Optimization for each app is turned off, Adaptable battery turned off, Battery saver turned off, also. Nothing helps; So sad, and it seems there is no solution for this.
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It works, phone needs restart in order for settings to be applied.
So far no problems encountered in multi-tasking, on Android 9. Not rooted.
Has anybody found any fixes for this?
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I noticed recently that I have very few apps open in recents. It seems to me like the phone is killing apps prematurely. Thankfully, app launch times are not that bad, so even with reloading it is not terrible.
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It is terrible.
I use the original ram and if I copy text paste it to other app then go back to copy another when I go to paste it's already lost the first before the reload.
For example I copy a bank account number, paste it go back and copy the name and after gone. Because of reload the account number disappears.
And this is just one example how annoying it is
It is pretty bad. Although, I feel that it had been better before certain security updates, but I couldn't remember specifically which ones. Right now, at August update, I've got all optimisations turned off, battery saver turned off, adaptive battery turned off, individual app optimisations are also turned off, in developer settings I've got standard limit of background processes, killing apps is turned off.. I really don't know what else one could turn off, in order to render multitasking operable. I'm on stock with unlocked bootloader. Any help would be massively appreciated, because I am really frustrated by having two out of four gigabytes of RAM which is always free and unused, but my apps are getting killed almost instantly after I've left them.
My multitasking is better since I have disabled Adaptive Battery.
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My multitasking is better since I have disabled Adaptive Battery.
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Well, it should be, because, what this option does - it basically either kills all apps (if on) or lets them all work in background literally all the time (if off). That's why it's not really a good idea to keep it off because it will absolutely destroy your battery life.
I haven't updated since the October update and am not planning to - it is the last update that actually works properly regarding multitasking. All my optimisations are turned on and I reboot my phone every time after I've charged its battery - for some odd reason the multitasking works flawlessly after this.
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and I reboot my phone every time after I've charged its battery - for some odd reason the multitasking works flawlessly after this.
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Yes, if I do this even in November update, my multitasking is good. When I keep the phone on for a couple of days, it deteriorates. For a 3Gb phone, it makes no sense to have bad multitasking... Poor Android development I guess.
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Yes, if I do this even in November update, my multitasking is good. When I keep the phone on for a couple of days, it deteriorates. For a 3Gb phone, it makes no sense to have bad multitasking... Poor Android development I guess.
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Thats what i am talking about on my Ram Leak thread. Thank you for your comment.
Multi-tasking used to be waaaaay better in Android 8.1, but with Pie update it's worsened. I remember being amazed by how many apps could be held open in the background back then. I have the 4/64 version.
I have the 4GB version and I do not really do multitasking (multiple open windows), just share to Telegram and copy-paste between applications. It is anything but snappy; sometimes it takes looong. It does not feel like 4GB memory.
After a lot of waiting and holding onto the reviews to find out if I am going to install the oreo update or not, finally I did the installation. The reviews of the people having tried were quite mixed and I never got any full review of the update from anyone so I thought to write it down for someone like me looking for such review.
The installation went well and smooth. I have a Korean version of LG v20 with f800 model. I installed the f80020e with security patch level of August 2018 and then I checked for further update and found that there is another update of around 650mb which then changed the software version to f80020f. I did the factory reset (hard reset with button combinations) to start fresh.
Now here are the things which I liked and which I didn’t like and then the things which I miss from android noughat.
Things I liked:
1. The whole UI is smooth now, with flattened everything. There is a good change in UI but not a major one from nougat. You might find some changes very interesting but there are just some color changes and nothing much.
2. The system settings menu is bit changed. Some settings locations have been changed. For example, the lock screen settings used to be under display tab but now moved under system security settings. I think LG felt that lock screen is not a part of display but rather security. Strange though.
3. Apart from settings menu changing and flattening of notifications panel, there is nothing else. Everything is pretty much same as that of android 7.
4. App permissions settings is now very well organized. I have a good look onto which sensor or permission is given to which app by default and which is necessary and which is not. For example, a text app has nothing to do with my location so I turned it off. Similarly, a phone app has nothing to do with camera. So, on and so forth. App permissions can be controlled very well.
5. Notifications panel now categorized the notifications into tabs. Though I didn’t feel it very useful. The reason is, I go into each app manually and customize the notifications by myself. This way I know which notifications will come and which will never show up. For example, I don’t like push notifications from Instagram because I don’t use it much so I have turned them off. This feature is useful for those who install the app and use it with their default settings and then their notifications panel is clogged and then oreo comes into action.
6. Navigation bar can now be hidden with the dot button in the extreme left. I really liked that.
Things which I didn’t like:
1. The first and the most important. Battery life is bit weird. The battery now drops more frequently than noughat. This thing is quite frustrating as I was extremely concerned about this by reading the reviews and was afraid of facing the battery life issues, which happened even though I did the factory restore and started fresh.
I have been noting the battery usage in the battery section and mostly it is the OS parts which are using battery more rather than apps.
2. The battery saver was always there from android lollipop onwards. I loved this feature that when the battery level hits 15%, it kicks in and status bar and navigation bar will go orange and battery saver is turned on. The transitions are turned off and this way I could survive for some time until I reach home and charge it. This feature is somehow changed now. The battery saver is there but it doesn’t kick in automatically at any lower levels. It is either ON or OFF. If it is ON, then it is working even when battery level is in upper limits and it will turn off every animation. So I have to turn it on manually when I see battery level going down. This is what I hated the most.
3. Another frustrating element is, LG’s screen ghosting feature is still there and I have installed the sfilter app which keeps it away by running over the screen. Now the oreo keeps pinching me that sfilter is running over other apps (which I know) but that notification popup is annoying. If I turn that notification off (by sliding to right or left on notification) it will turn off every such notification from other apps which are running on top. Android noughat was very simple.
I am not very happy with the update and might go back to noughat. But it depends. I am giving oreo sometime to calibrate the phone so that the battery drop can be calibrated and trying to adjust myself with it. Let’s see.
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1. The first and the most important. Battery life is bit weird. The battery now drops more frequently than noughat. This thing is quite frustrating as I was extremely concerned about this by reading the reviews and was afraid of facing the battery life issues, which happened even though I did the factory restore and started fresh.
I have been noting the battery usage in the battery section and mostly it is the OS parts which are using battery more rather than apps.
2. The battery saver was always there from android lollipop onwards. I loved this feature that when the battery level hits 15%, it kicks in and status bar and navigation bar will go orange and battery saver is turned on. The transitions are turned off and this way I could survive for some time until I reach home and charge it. This feature is somehow changed now. The battery saver is there but it doesn’t kick in automatically at any lower levels. It is either ON or OFF. If it is ON, then it is working even when battery level is in upper limits and it will turn off every animation. So I have to turn it on manually when I see battery level going down. This is what I hated the most....................
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I confirm the above. Especially the battery saver behavior is strange. I hate this.
I also have a feeling that that when switching between different pages of settings menu the phone is slower than with Nougat.
So I broke my old Note 4 that I used at work. I'm now dusting off my daughter's old S7 Edge to use that, upgraded to latest firmware, used CCSW to disable all what I consider crapware, and now I have a question. Since this is running Oreo the battery and data optimization is not as complex as what we have recently (my "weekend" phone is a Note 10 running Android 11), so should I still use Greenify to control my running apps or is the battery optimization in Oreo is good enough without the need for an "extra" app running in the background to control that. I appreciate everyone's opinion!
Lol, that app and a 3rd party launcher were the prime suspects in 2 back to back boot loops on my N10+ Never again.
Not sure about Oreo but power management always causes issues in Pie including poor battery life.
I simply close app when done with them and Android does fine.
Any apps that don't behave under those terms I deal with on a case by case basis. Some are uninstalled or temporarily/permanently disabled.
Google Framework, Play Services and Playstore are habitual offenders.
Play with it and see what's using the battery, go from there. Maybe it will behave better than you expect.
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Lol, that app and a 3rd party launcher were the prime suspects in 2 back to back boot loops on my N10+ Never again.
Not sure about Oreo but power management always causes issues in Pie including poor battery life.
I simply close app when done with them and Android does fine.
Any apps that don't behave under those terms I deal with on a case by case basis. Some are uninstalled or temporarily/permanently disabled.
Google Framework, Play Services and Playstore are habitual offenders.
Play with it and see what's using the battery, go from there. Maybe it will behave better than you expect.
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Thx for the reply. Yes, besides CCSW to disable apps that either I consider crapware or apps that I use rarely, I don't use Greenify or other "battery saving" apps on my Note10. I feel that Pie and above has way better management options for apps that previous Android releases. If I close all my apps on "recents" and reboot my phone and let it sit there overnight I get only a 2-3% drop in my battery. That tells that battery is well managed.
Now for this old S7 on Oreo well I dont have many options in the apps settings besides the battery optimization switch. That's why I'm debating if I should use Greenify or not to have better control of apps that I really dont want running on the background but still want to receive notifications when they arrive.
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Thx for the reply. Yes, besides CCSW to disable apps that either I consider crapware or apps that I use rarely, I don't use Greenify or other "battery saving" apps on my Note10. I feel that Pie and above has way better management options for apps that previous Android releases. If I close all my apps on "recents" and reboot my phone and let it sit there overnight I get only a 2-3% drop in my battery. That tells that battery is well managed.
Now for this old S7 on Oreo well I dont have many options in the apps settings besides the battery optimization switch. That's why I'm debating if I should use Greenify or not to have better control of apps that I really dont want running on the background but still want to receive notifications when they arrive.
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I reboot my 10+ every few days or if it acts up... no reboot in 3-5 days can do that
At night I simply close all open apps although I do that throughout the day as well. I use Device Care to do clean ups every 2-3 days. Other than clearing the system cache that's about as much system maintenance as I do.
I also police the download folder daily and once a month scan with Malwarebytes. A very low maintenance, clean running system.
Greenify worried me as it wasn't seamless or fast and running at boot up means it had the capability to boot loop the device. If I never see another boot loop it won't be missed...
Maybe on an older OS you would see tangible power savings but it didn't do much for me on Pie.
In the end, tracking the power hogs down and dealing with them on a case by case basis did.
I run with Google play Services disabled 98% of the time now. It nets me about 2%@hr better battery life.
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I feel that Pie and above has way better management options for apps that previous Android releases.
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On my N10+ ruunong on Pie, all Device Care power management toggles are turn off except for fast charging.
The power mode is always set to "Optimize".