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I am coming from a T-Mobile HTC HD2, and I have Unlocked the phone, installed several ROM's and Android Build's, but I am getting bored, so I got a Vibrant now, Do I need to Unlock the Vibrant and Root the phone in order to install a Custom ROM? If so, if you could provide me the link to a program to Root the phone, and Unlock the phone, would be much appreciated, and I can go from there, thank you. Please do not flame this, obviously I know what I am talking about.
Read the bible and all questions will be answered. Basically do not be lazy and do a search its all here the info you need.
Cheers.
that sounds sexual
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771111
Anybody notice there are two of these threads?
You do realize you posted the same thread 15 minutes before this one. By the way you are getting flamed in that other thread for not reading sticky threads. They are sticky for a reason. The one in general and the bible have pretty much everything you might want.
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doesn't matter
It doesn't matter whether you are a noob or know what u talkin....
Anytime you create a new thread in the Dev section(twice!!) with such a basic question....you are asking for it....search man search!!
Mods please move....
You should be searching, but ignore the a**holes, just in the future make sure you check out all stickies and abuse the search function ( and NEVER double post, because then even I wont feel bad for you)...otherwise you are welcoming the douchebags to come out from under their rocks and prey on fresh meat
to answer your questions, you do not have to "unlock" the phone. Just root the phone in order to obtain Superuser and Busybox. Install "OCLF" from the market, this is the easiest and fastest way to root your device. And from there just read up on ROMs/Mods for yourself to see what you want. Most ROM threads have specific installation instructions, good luck.
This phone is so easy to mod, its silly. However, sometimes it can be TOO easy, in the sense where if someone gets caught up in the simplicity and starts rushing, you may miss a small detail that could cause major setbacks. Its happened to the best of us, it doesnt mean you dont know what youre doing, it justs means your enot reading carefully. So no matter how simple something may seem/sound, always make you read carefully so as to prevent issues that will cause you to post/panic like crazy.
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YOU F ing NOOB WHY DID YOU POST THE SAME THING TWICE IN THE WRONG SECTION OF THE FORUM
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Don't taze him bro
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Don't taze him bro
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+1..........
Lets face it.
People can't read anymore. Its a sign of the times. They want an answer ASAP, at the cost of wasting our time and theirs.
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your phone is dead I'll give you $20
Ive never been this frustrated in trying to find how to guides before. Damn it Im just trying to figure out how to install MIUI on my bell sgs2 stock ugkg2 2.3.3 phone. Do I need to update my firmware first and if so with which one since there isnt a bell sgs2 update yet and once i download this firmaware, how the heck to I extract it since they have a password and samsung-firmwares.com does not work for password. /end rant
First you need a rooted kernel which you have to flash with odin. Either cf-root or hellcats or nimph kernel. The first thing after using are rooted is to BACKUP YOUR EFS FOLDER! Then boot into cwm and install MIUI zip from there.
There is a QA thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238494
For guide on how to flash the kernel have a look in cf-root kernel thread. For easy efs backup use hellcats application or manually do it, with the instructions in the relevant thread.
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Great thanks for the reply but how do I extract KG6 2.3.4 firmware? All the firmware Ive downloaded through Samfirmware.com so far has asked for a freaken password!?!?! and I dont have the slightest clue on where to find this password. Ive tried samsung-firmwares.com without any luck..../frustrated tweeker
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Great thanks for the reply but how do I extract KG6 2.3.4 firmware? All the firmware Ive downloaded through Samfirmware.com so far has asked for a freaken password!?!?! and I dont have the slightest clue on where to find this password. Ive tried samsung-firmwares.com without any luck..../frustrated tweeker
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That's because, as you said, you are a bloody noob. If you would have spent more than 20 seconds looking, you would have either find the password (even with google, the first result has it), either the thread explaining how to install it.
These forums have thousands (guessing) of members, imagine if everyone were an idiot like you, and posting **** like this, they would have to close it down.
password is: samfirmware.com
MIUI install instructions are here
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That's because, as you said, you are a bloody noob. If you would have spent more than 20 seconds looking, you would have either find the password (even with google, the first result has it), either the thread explaining how to install it.
These forums have thousands (guessing) of members, imagine if everyone were an idiot like you, and posting **** like this, they would have to close it down.
password is: samfirmware.com
MIUI install instructions are here
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Its responses like this that show me how classless this place has become. Who the hell do you think you are ? Dont you think I havnt googled for the password first before asking here ?!?! I dont need 12 year old immature snob insults. Rather Im looking for mature, friendly, understanding responses from ADULT people who understand what it is to be a noob and that fast answers are not always easy to find, espeicailly when your new to the world of Android tweaking....thakns for nothing chump.!
Clicky here.
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Clicky here.
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Yes Im a newb and yes being a newb makes me look like Im an idiot to you know it alls but does that mean you have to be an asshole ?? I saw that video and I laughed my ass off but still, I dont wanna spend weeks looking for information that can be given in minuts !! I tried looking for quick and easy answers but nothing quite comes cloes to what i looking for. Just trying to fing the freaken password to extract kg6 firmware was a bloody pain in the but....btw samfirmware.com does not work
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Its responses like this that show me how classless this place has become.
Unfortunately its true driven mainly by users who wont search and fail to read instructions and want it all handed to them on a plate with repetitions of the same questions day after day .
I see no way around this problem as FAQS etc and rules are not read so the genuine user who asks a question as you did gets treated as if they could not be bothered to search read etc .It is partly due to the number of twelve year olds with Smartphones .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238494
jje
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Daniels45 said:
Its responses like this that show me how classless this place has become.
Unfortunately its true driven mainly by users who wont search and fail to read instructions and want it all handed to them on a plate with repetitions of the same questions day after day .
I see no way around this problem as FAQS etc and rules are not read so the genuine user who asks a question as you did gets treated as if they could not be bothered to search read etc .It is partly due to the number of twelve year olds with Smartphones .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238494
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The problem Im having is first Im clueless in regards to android phones and 2nd lots of the information Ive been able to find in regards to rooting/upgrading firmware/updating roms are conflicting so that makes me insecure (I dont wanna brick my phone) 3rd I havnt been able to find...so far...explicit information that enables me to download and extract firmware with password for my bell ugkg2 SGS2.
Looks like Im gonna stick with stock till I can find a guide that goes through all the loops that a canadian bell user like me has to go through to upgrade firmware to 2.3.4 and upgrade to the latest MIUI.....
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As a fellow Canadian and a fellow user of the Samsung Galaxy S2 from Bell, I know these phones inside and out due to hours and hours and hours and hours and weeks and days and more hours and more hours and more hours......of research. I have no problem helping you out unlike that other character who is too much of a prick to help anybody out. Let me know if you still need my help. I don't mind taking you under my wing and showing you the ropes of our beasts and the wonderful world of Android.
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As a fellow Canadian and a fellow user of the Samsung Galaxy S2 from Bell, I know these phones inside and out due to hours and hours and hours and hours and weeks and days and more hours and more hours and more hours......of research. I have no problem helping you out unlike that other character who is too much of a prick to help anybody out. Let me know if you still need my help. I don't mind taking you under my wing and showing you the ropes of our beasts and the wonderful world of Android.
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Thanks man for being a NICE guy...something people around here need to work on...Ok heres what Im trying to do. I wanna install the latest MIUI rom but from what Ive read, its needs 2.3.4 firmware. I downloaded KG6 firmware but Im unable to extract it du to password limitations and thats where Im stuck at.
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Thanks man for being a NICE guy...something people around here need to work on...Ok heres what Im trying to do. I wanna install the latest MIUI rom but from what Ive read, its needs 2.3.4 firmware. I downloaded KG6 firmware but Im unable to extract it du to password limitations and thats where Im stuck at.
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Bro, if you want MIUI you have to do TWO simple simple things from your stock bell state
go look for cfroot kernel thread (ill try to find it and link it for you) use the ones for kG2 firmware, this will root your phone and install CWM (the recovery needed to flash custom roms) this will root your phone on the bell firmware no stock required!
once this is done, download the latest miui zip, put on phone sd. boot into recovery and flash that mofo
You actually dont need stock/ kg6 at all to flash custom roms, but it is nice to learn how to use it for the sake of going back to stock!
I'm not changing my mind. They can take all noobs under their wings, but when I see incompetent idiots like you, I can't control myself. The password is on the same download page you got the file from, and I've already told you. You're here because you're bored, and you want attention, and you spent less than one minute searching for your answer. I know I am aggressive sometimes, but I do help people who put in some effort for something they want. I am also a beginner, so I'm not patronizing you, but what you failed to achieve has nothing to do with android at all. Now stop being a moron and creating a drama.
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I'm not changing my mind. They can take all noobs under their wings, but when I see incompetent idiots like you, I can't control myself. The password is on the same download page you got the file from, and I've already told you. You're here because you're bored, and you want attention, and you spent less than one minute searching for your answer. I know I am aggressive sometimes, but I do help people who put in some effort for something they want. I am also a beginner, so I'm not patronizing you, but what you failed to achieve has nothing to do with android at all. Now stop being a moron and creating a drama.
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I understand you, but you shouldnt be this agressive. You could ignore this or just tell him to read the faq at samfirmwares. Just my opinion.
Daniel, posts like yours looks like spam as there is tons of posts asking for the same thing over and over. Try to read a bit more, start with the faqs.
About root and roms, start reading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134290
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130951
Good luck
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I'm not changing my mind. They can take all noobs under their wings, but when I see incompetent idiots like you, I can't control myself. The password is on the same download page you got the file from, and I've already told you. You're here because you're bored, and you want attention, and you spent less than one minute searching for your answer. I know I am aggressive sometimes, but I do help people who put in some effort for something they want. I am also a beginner, so I'm not patronizing you, but what you failed to achieve has nothing to do with android at all. Now stop being a moron and creating a drama.
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I sort of have to agree with you minus the aggressive attitude. If you can't answer normally then simply don't answer. You're not only making yourself look like a F*cking idiot to about everyone that reads on these forums, but you are also making the community look bad and there are quite a few wonderful people on these boards.
On a side note, I am a newbie to when it comes to android systems (btw there is a difference between a Noob and Newbie, to bad most people don't remember that) but I did manage to root my phone and figure out how to install stock roms and other roms, within 15 minutes of searching. There are plenty of guides here on XDA telling you what flashing is, what roms are, what kernals are, what odin is for, what root system to use (CF-Root) etc.
Its not that hard, so i do agree with you on that.
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(btw there is a difference between a Noob and Newbie, to bad most people don't remember that)
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I wasn't aware of this. Care to enlighten this senior gentleman? I'm not down with you young hipsters...
And I agree 110% with TheSaw - the OP wants spoonfeeding and has the cheek to "rant" about it. "Spending weeks searching"!!?? Oh behave...
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I wasn't aware of this. Care to enlighten this senior gentleman? I'm not down with you young hipsters...
And I agree 110% with TheSaw - the OP wants spoonfeeding and has the cheek to "rant" about it. "Spending weeks searching"!!?? Oh behave...
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<PSA>
Newbie: Someone new to something, just starting out, learning.
Noob: Someone whos been around for a while and just wont learn, someone who needs spoon feeding, someone who doesnt want to help themselves.
We are all Newbies at some point, some get better, others turn into noobs.
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Okay, I apologize for my aggressive behavior. I did however help him in my first post after ranting. And yes, I do know the difference between "noob" and "newbie", and I give him credit for correctly categorizing himself in the "noob" group in his thread's title. And on that note... it's common sense and forum rules not to create threads with titles like this. I'm just really not patient with people, sorry
Over and out, carry on without me.
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Okay, I apologize for my aggressive behavior. I did however help him in my first post after ranting. And yes, I do know the difference between "noob" and "newbie", and I give him credit for correctly categorizing himself in the "noob" group in his thread's title. And on that note... it's common sense and forum rules not to create threads with titles like this. I'm just really not patient with people, sorry
Over and out, carry on without me.
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You can have a go at the ten identical posts today What Rom /best rom/which rom /recommended rom
I have learnt to move past a post if i consider the user to be lazy and not bothered to read etc .But not always i am afraid .
jje
I fear for your phone.
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hay
kindly tell me a simple to partioin my nexus one for ics.
am i partioin any nexus model with blackrose.
sorry for my english
waiting for help
Check it here.. There is different thread for installing blackrose as well.. Try finding out.. simple instructions are in below thread..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1270589
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I would say u need to be a bit careful wid blackrose. Cos its not as easy like flashing a rom. I would recommend you to go thru the blackrose thread carefully to make things clear. If u get any doubts u can ask it and clear things out
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There should be CLEAR instructions in the OP of the Blackrose thread. This **** is ridiculous.
What do I need? Do I need the Android SDK? If I do, can I install it on a seperate drive? I don't need ****e clogging up my SSD. No one has stated I need the SDK, hence why I haven't bothered with it. If it is needed, then my point about none of it being CLEAR is reinforced.
Been trying to figure this **** out for hours. Seen countless numbers of posts with people trying to give instructions. I try these things to find that I have missed something because I can't complete a step or some other problem.
And did I mention how helpful the installation video was in the OP? Really good stuff, that.
Any actual help will be appreciated. Gonna jump off the nearest cliff if someone suggests to read through the thread again. Which seems to be the only thing that people like to tell others in these "help" threads.
Cheers.
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There should be CLEAR instructions in the OP of the Blackrose thread. This **** is ridiculous.
What do I need? Do I need the Android SDK? If I do, can I install it on a seperate drive? I don't need ****e clogging up my SSD. No one has stated I need the SDK, hence why I haven't bothered with it. If it is needed, then my point about none of it being CLEAR is reinforced.
Been trying to figure this **** out for hours. Seen countless numbers of posts with people trying to give instructions. I try these things to find that I have missed something because I can't complete a step or some other problem.
And did I mention how helpful the installation video was in the OP? Really good stuff, that.
Any actual help will be appreciated. Gonna jump off the nearest cliff if someone suggests to read through the thread again. Which seems to be the only thing that people like to tell others in these "help" threads.
Cheers.
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I think you will get an earful from other members after they read your post. Calm down and don't vent your anger on this portal. If the instructions from the OP are not clear, just ask and we will help you.
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There should be CLEAR instructions in the OP of the Blackrose thread. This **** is ridiculous.
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Should be? Really? Says who? Take your entitlement straight to the door. People here are doing things for free and sharing their knowledge... and you are demanding to be spoon-fed it.
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What do I need? Do I need the Android SDK? If I do, can I install it on a seperate drive? I don't need ****e clogging up my SSD. No one has stated I need the SDK, hence why I haven't bothered with it. If it is needed, then my point about none of it being CLEAR is reinforced.
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Do you know what the SDK is? If not, maybe you should read up on what it is and why you would need it.
No, you do not need the SDK installed. You do need the drivers for your device installed though, both for fastboot and normal mode.
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Been trying to figure this **** out for hours. Seen countless numbers of posts with people trying to give instructions. I try these things to find that I have missed something because I can't complete a step or some other problem.
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Hours? When I got my first smartphone many years ago, I spend months lurking around this site trying to take in as much knowledge as I could before even attempting to flash anything. I wanted to make sure that I understood everything I was doing before doing it -- I did not want to blindly follow someone's step by step.
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And did I mention how helpful the installation video was in the OP? Really good stuff, that.
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You're lucky you even got a video.
Adster3000 said:
Any actual help will be appreciated. Gonna jump off the nearest cliff if someone suggests to read through the thread again. Which seems to be the only thing that people like to tell others in these "help" threads.
Cheers.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
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Should be? Really? Says who? Take your entitlement straight to the door. People here are doing things for free and sharing their knowledge... and you are demanding to be spoon-fed it.
Do you know what the SDK is? If not, maybe you should read up on what it is and why you would need it.
No, you do not need the SDK installed. You do need the drivers for your device installed though, both for fastboot and normal mode.
Hours? When I got my first smartphone many years ago, I spend months lurking around this site trying to take in as much knowledge as I could before even attempting to flash anything. I wanted to make sure that I understood everything I was doing before doing it -- I did not want to blindly follow someone's step by step.
You're lucky you even got a video.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
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Insulting people always helps!
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I think you will get an earful from other members after they read your post. Calm down and don't vent your anger on this portal. If the instructions from the OP are not clear, just ask and we will help you.
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This is much more helpful. My apologies.
If I were the one creating these sorts of things for others (and myself,) I'd very much like it to be as simple as possible for the end-user. I'd like as much support as possible and I would be isolating the majority by making it more difficult than it could be. I shouldn't need a developer's knowledge to be able to take advantage of a developer's work.
I'm sure I just missed something simple. It wasn't the drivers. After I installed them and tried the Blackrose exe again, it stops at "waiting for device." Read through some of the thread, not understanding half of it, as you would expect, and didn't come across anything that could have helped me with my problem.
Any ideas?
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If I were the one creating these sorts of things for others (and myself,) I'd very much like it to be as simple as possible for the end-user. I'd like as much support as possible and I would be isolating the majority by making it more difficult than it could be. I shouldn't need a developer's knowledge to be able to take advantage of a developer's work.
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I think what you posted above is where the problem is. People here are not creating things here for others. They are developing something, and sharing it with others.
And I guess, you didn't read the comment in the link in my previous post. Otherwise, it probably would have been more clear.
I'm not trying to insult. On the contrary, I am trying to help you figure it out, not have someone figure it out for you, in the spirit of xda-developers, not xda-support-desk.
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I'm sure I just missed something simple. It wasn't the drivers. After I installed them and tried the Blackrose exe again, it stops at "waiting for device." Read through some of the thread, not understanding half of it, as you would expect, and didn't come across anything that could have helped me with my problem.
Any ideas?
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It's funny, but I remember more than one individual having the same issue in the Blackrose thread. And I remember mentioning to at least one individual that they could try to flash Blackrose manually, instead of using the installer. But maybe you missed that. Or did you not read the entire thread?
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But maybe you missed that. Or did you not read the entire thread?
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lol, seriously?
There are 956 posts in the Blackrose thread alone. Expecting someone to read EVERY single post and absorb all of that information at one time is a bit proposterous. I'd bet it'd take a good 3-4 hours to just read that single thread.
I'm not saying we should spoon feed the newbs (especially the ones who can't follow simple instructions, like not posting a question in a forum with a big sticky at the top that explicitly says "WARNING - DO *NOT* POST QUESTIONS IN THIS FORUM - only tips/info/etc."), but at what point do we say... hey, this is how you do it, these 900 posts don't matter, or are outdated, or are duplicate questions...
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lol, seriously?
There are 956 posts in the Blackrose thread alone. Expecting someone to read EVERY single post and absorb all of that information at one time is a bit proposterous. I'd bet it'd take a good 3-4 hours to just read that single thread.
I'm not saying we should spoon feed the newbs (especially the ones who can't follow simple instructions, like not posting a question in a forum with a big sticky at the top that explicitly says "WARNING - DO *NOT* POST QUESTIONS IN THIS FORUM - only tips/info/etc."), but at what point do we say... hey, this is how you do it, these 900 posts don't matter, or are outdated, or are duplicate questions...
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I WAS being serious. Maybe it's just me, but I like learning, and I like helping those who like to learn. And don't tell me it's because people don't have time to read them...I work 60-70 hours a week, take post-graduate classes, raise 3 kids (which includes going to soccer games, homework, skating and dance lessons), and I still have time to read some threads, write up some guides, and help others.
If I want to flash something, I read the entire thread, so I learn from others' mistakes. When I had my Nexus One and I wanted Blackrose, I read every post in that Blackrose thread, up until I replaced the N1. I guess I have a hard time understanding someone who doesn't, and then complains that the guides should be better, and saying "this $%!& is ridiculous".
One of the things people need to develop skills for, if they're doing anything technical, is SEARCH. It helps a lot to filter out the crap, because it's indeed impossible or at least unreal to read threads of 300+ replies. But searching helps. Noobs should start working on their google-fu.
I agree that Blackrose thread isn't the simplest around. But just think - it's not more and not less, but bootloader replacement! The very thing that noobs SHOULD NOT TOUCH until they understand what they're doing.
So, the first response should be - if you don't understand how to do something, STAY AWAY UNTIL YOU DO. And indeed, go vent somewhere else. This isn't a forum for pleasing users.
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and I still have time to read some threads, write up some guides, and help others.
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Ha.
Forget I asked, then.
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Ha.
Forget I asked, then.
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So let me get this straight: You are looking for help (despite not having read the Blackrose thread), I give you two suggestions (check you driver install and flash the modified hboot manually, both are in the Blackrose thread), and you are still flippant and not happy?
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I previously had an htc vivid that I s-off'd and rom'd alot and before that I had a samsung infuse and I remember roming on the infuse to be pretty easy. So where do i start? I want to install cm10.1 nightly but I just got my phone today and I have no idea how to root or get cwm on it
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I previously had an htc vivid that I s-off'd and rom'd alot and before that I had a samsung infuse and I remember roming on the infuse to be pretty easy. So where do i start? I want to install cm10.1 nightly but I just got my phone today and I have no idea how to root or get cwm on it
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Start with these three threads, but don't limit yourself to them. You will find many useful links within those threads to help you as well. Good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312444
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557
WTH, scott. you fast.
Good info as always
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WTH, scott. you fast.
Good info as always
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I bet 90% (or more) of all "Help me!" type posts can be resolved with those few threads. Maybe another 5% need to be directed to another thread or two, and only the last 5% or so actually require more information than what has already been posted. If people would follow the XDA rules, search, and read what is easily available, most of them wouldn't have problems in the first place...much less need to make posts about them time after time. This forum has evolved nicely and people have taken their time to put together guides, solve problems, and create helpful posts. It is a slap in the face of those people when others don't take the time to read the information they made available. I see it all of the time, people saying, "but this is Q&A, I should be allowed to ask questions yadayadayada...). For some reason, to them, Q&A means I don't need to search, read, or learn, I can just ask a question that has been asked 20 times already (usually still on the first page) and people must flock to me with easy answers on silver platters! Of course, that is assuming they even put the question in the Q&A forum to start with. For some reason, they think they are above the rules or they are so special the rules don't apply to them. Q&A (according to XDA) exists to help AFTER someone has already searched and read on their own...not as a substitute for doing so. And saying, "but I searched", when it is obvious that no searching or very little searching was done only makes them a liar as well.
At most, people should only need to be directed to this information (existing threads). If they choose to ignore this help or if they think they are too important to take the time needed to read and learn...too bad. Fortunately, most accept the help and take advantage of the information, others, well I guess they just need to sit around, all butt-hurt, with their bricks. :laugh:
And to those that get butt-hurt...No, I'm not a Mod and I'm not affiliated with XDA, I just follow the rules that I agreed to when I signed up...just like everyone else is supposed to. DO you?
...and this isn't necessarily directed at the OP, I just happened to say it in this thread.
This is not unique to XDA. People on all forums ask before trying to find the answer. It doesn't matter how much good info is posted, most users want to be spoon fed instead of trying to learn on their own.
Even with power of Google, we see people post " how do I ....." On forums first, when the same query on google will give instant answers.
I can't explain it, but we are all witness to it.
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This is not unique to XDA. People on all forums ask before trying to find the answer. It doesn't matter how much good info is posted, most users want to be spoon fed instead of trying to learn on their own.
Even with power of Google, we see people post " how do I ....." On forums first, when the same query on google will give instant answers.
I can't explain it, but we are all witness to it.
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Does not excuse it in the slightest. Anyways I'm happy for the OP choosing the S4 but this is getting quite repetitive and needs to stop :/
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+1 to all
A lot of members like Axman have invested many hours in writing great "noob" threads. Very well done and easy to understand. What I never get is why folks invest a lot of money in this phone, and others, and don't want to spend time educating themselves on how to root it and flash roms.
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Does not excuse it in the slightest. Anyways I'm happy for the OP choosing the S4 but this is getting quite repetitive and needs to stop :/
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Where have you been? Haven't seen you around in awhile.
Agreed though, getting old. Same issue, different name.
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Where have you been? Haven't seen you around in awhile.
Agreed though, getting old. Same issue, different name.
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Life, and AOKP has been keeping me quite content but yea long time no see, glad to see familiar faces
Decided I should drop by more to help with these QA threads hahaha
To the OP now, don't think we hate you or anything, it's just you put like NO EFFORT into researching. The QA forum is here to help issues beyond just getting started.
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I started those guides thinking that everyone would be talking about flashing roms, whats cool, whats not, and so on, made them so anyone new could even understand, I must have forgotten that people just want to get a phone and start rooting and such, without reading because his buddy said it was cool to root and flash roms, even told him, here go to this site and get roms, and flash them. Then the process starts, a continuous posts of I can't , and it won't questions.
What gets me, you know they are not searching, because the post right above theirs has their problem right in the thread title. Saw one of those yesterday somewhere.
Ka dumb a$s, duh!
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Btw .. OP, I am going to apologize for semi hi-jacking your thread. It was wrong. Sorry sir. Seriously.
I think by now the OP has read your Guide, plus others and is now running and enjoying a custom rom--
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I think by now the OP has read your Guide, plus others and is now running and enjoying a custom rom--
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This! Also I got very intimidated by all the people screaming at me. I did a bunch of research before I asked the question and was still confused hence the question I'm not an xda idiot but the s4 was already very big in modding when I joined whereas the infuse and vivid had just started to get cwm and root when I got them so I grew with the romers I apologize for looking so nooby since reading the first post I now have a auto Loki cwm and root access and am running the Google edition ROM thank you all for the suggestions and links
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Glad you got it--
Don't feel bad sometimes we need to vent--nothing personal
I came here in early May from the One S and close to 3.5 years of flashing HTC devices with the advantage of unlocked bootloaders thru fastboot. But, still felt like a noob here--still do--
Odin/Kies/Loki were all new. Esp loki. I have spent hundreds of hours reading probably a couple thousand posts. Still learning. It does take a lot of effort to figure this out for some of us--like me.
But, a good investment as one needs to not only know how but why--to not lose a pricey phone--
Welcome to the S4--Unbelievable Phone--:good:
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Hello, after reading for hours, I now realize that I was wrong. Not totally new to rooting, etc. but this one caught me off guard. I updated to the latest MF3 OTA from ATT.
My problem is I tried to install TWRP from the goo manager, and now the recovery doesn't work on the phone at all. For the longest time it just kept rebooting the phone endlessly, and I could make it get into download mode.
I managed to get the phone to boot up by flashing the stock rom with odin in the bootloader section (did this by accident trying to recover the phone), and then went into download mode, and clicked cancel. It booted up fine.
If I try to enter recovery at all, it goes back into the endless boot cycle till I do some playing around with odin.
How to do I get the normal recovery working again? I would like to factory reset this and sell it for a GPE phone.
Thank you for your time.
Is there a downloadable mf3 ROM out there I can use to flash it with Odin?
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Is there a downloadable mf3 ROM out there I can use to flash it with Odin?
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NO!
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agent929 said:
Hello, after reading for hours, I now realize that I was wrong. Not totally new to rooting, etc. but this one caught me off guard. I updated to the latest MF3 OTA from ATT.
My problem is I tried to install TWRP from the goo manager, and now the recovery doesn't work on the phone at all. For the longest time it just kept rebooting the phone endlessly, and I could make it get into download mode.
I managed to get the phone to boot up by flashing the stock rom with odin in the bootloader section (did this by accident trying to recover the phone), and then went into download mode, and clicked cancel. It booted up fine.
If I try to enter recovery at all, it goes back into the endless boot cycle till I do some playing around with odin.
How to do I get the normal recovery working again? I would like to factory reset this and sell it for a GPE phone.
Thank you for your time.
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There is a method, you'll have to search for it, because I can't find it right now and link you to it.
It's your luck day . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43512474
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Both of you should do a lot more reading before you mess with your phones. There are good stickies in the general forum which would be good starting points. If you had read them you might not be posting here now.
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Both of you should do a lot more reading before you mess with your phones. There are good stickies in the general forum which would be good starting points. If you had read them you might not be posting here now.
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Not to be a stickler but it's the same person.
And not to be disrespectful, but the galaxyroot website says installing a custom recovery is fine but it must be rooted first - if not rooted go here - you go here and it shows the mf3 root method. Never said much else about it. I rarely use XDA to ask for information. The post always turns into a flame war with people who are extremely disrespectful. To me this forum is extremely mixed up with post, and other times the information isn't clear. I agree totally that I made the mistake, but I admit to my failure and now I'm trying to learn from it. I'll never understand why the people on this forum and I mean especially this forum love to bash others.
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Edit: I see the post I was mainly referring to is now gone.
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And not to be disrespectful, but the galaxyroot website says installing a custom recovery is fine but it must be rooted first - if not rooted go here - you go here and it shows the mf3 root method. Never said much else about it. I rarely use XDA to ask for information. The post always turns into a flame war with people who are extremely disrespectful. To me this forum is extremely mixed up with post, and other times the information isn't clear. I agree totally that I made the mistake, but I admit to my failure and now I'm trying to learn from it. I'll never understand why the people on this forum and I mean especially this forum love to bash others.
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The reason people are annoyed is because people are constantly coming here with little knowledge, ignoring all the useful guides stickied at the top of the forums to try and help these exact same people, then rushing into an advanced procedure without a proper idea of what they're doing. Then they make a brand new thread to ask a question/beg for help, when it's already been answered 100 times, rather than searching for the answer first.
It's not something to get upset about because it's going to keep happening no matter what...but it is laughably annoying.
Anyways, I don't know what website galaxyroot is, but you need to get your info/guides/procedures/research right here at XDA...not at some random website with crappy information. That was your first mistake.
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The reason people are annoyed is because people are constantly coming here with little knowledge, ignoring all the useful guides stickied at the top of the forums to try and help these exact same people, then rushing into an advanced procedure without a proper idea of what they're doing. Then they make a brand new thread to ask a question/beg for help, when it's already been answered 100 times, rather than searching for the answer first.
It's not something to get upset about because it's going to keep happening no matter what...but it is laughably annoying.
Anyways, I don't know what website galaxyroot is, but you need to get your info/guides/procedures/research right here at XDA...not at some random website with crappy information. That was your first mistake.
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Absolutely!
And I might add...
Asking questions (regardless of how many times they have already been asked) is NOT learning. Learning IS searching and reading available information, no matter how much time it takes, until a person has complete knowledge about their device and what it is they are going to be doing to it. It is called "being responsible for your own actions":. People that keep asking the same questions over and over again are NOT trying to learn anything. They are just trying to get someone else that usually did take the time necessary to learn about their phone to get them out of a situation that they got themselves into while putting a minimum of their own effort into it. Just so they can go back and screw something up again.
People who ask valid questions AFTER they have searched, read, and learned are generally handled in a very friendly manner because they have displayed a willingness to actually learn about what they are doing. I've already said this in several other posts but it comes down to people that do things correctly versus people that are lazy, have a sense of entitlement, or feel as if their time is more valuable than others...it's just that simple.
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Absolutely!
And I might add...
Asking questions (regardless of how many times they have already been asked) is NOT learning. Learning IS searching and reading available information, no matter how much time it takes, until a person has complete knowledge about their device and what it is they are going to be doing to it. It is called "being responsible for your own actions":. People that keep asking the same questions over and over again are NOT trying to learn anything. They are just trying to get someone else that usually did take the time necessary to learn about their phone to get them out of a situation that they got themselves into while putting a minimum of their own effort into it. Just so they can go back and screw something up again.
People who ask valid questions AFTER they have searched, read, and learned are generally handled in a very friendly manner because they have displayed a willingness to actually learn about what they are doing. I've already said this in several other posts but it comes down to people that do things correctly versus people that are lazy, have a sense of entitlement, or feel as if their time is more valuable than others...it's just that simple.
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The funny thing is: often the people who are accused of being mean/rude/unfriendly are people who spend an exceptional amount of time, each and every day, helping people in these forums! It's FREE tech support. You get "mean" when you deserve it and you are not entitled to complain about it, in my opinion.
sense of entitlement
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Absolutely!
And I might add...
Asking questions (regardless of how many times they have already been asked) is NOT learning. Learning IS searching and reading available information, no matter how much time it takes, until a person has complete knowledge about their device and what it is they are going to be doing to it. It is called "being responsible for your own actions":. People that keep asking the same questions over and over again are NOT trying to learn anything. They are just trying to get someone else that usually did take the time necessary to learn about their phone to get them out of a situation that they got themselves into while putting a minimum of their own effort into it. Just so they can go back and screw something up again.
People who ask valid questions AFTER they have searched, read, and learned are generally handled in a very friendly manner because they have displayed a willingness to actually learn about what they are doing. I've already said this in several other posts but it comes down to people that do things correctly versus people that are lazy, have a sense of entitlement, or feel as if their time is more valuable than others...it's just that simple.
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well said... I'd say part of my good luck is reading everything in here... whether I grasp it or not... initial exposure is the opening of a door...explanation falls on deaf ears, that have never entertained the sound in the first place!
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Absolutely!
And I might add...
Asking questions (regardless of how many times they have already been asked) is NOT learning. Learning IS searching and reading available information, no matter how much time it takes, until a person has complete knowledge about their device and what it is they are going to be doing to it. It is called "being responsible for your own actions":. People that keep asking the same questions over and over again are NOT trying to learn anything. They are just trying to get someone else that usually did take the time necessary to learn about their phone to get them out of a situation that they got themselves into while putting a minimum of their own effort into it. Just so they can go back and screw something up again.
People who ask valid questions AFTER they have searched, read, and learned are generally handled in a very friendly manner because they have displayed a willingness to actually learn about what they are doing. I've already said this in several other posts but it comes down to people that do things correctly versus people that are lazy, have a sense of entitlement, or feel as if their time is more valuable than others...it's just that simple.
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I agree with that. In my case it was a few hours of researching with no clear answer to me.
The website is galaxys4root.com and it is referenced in this forum quite a bit.
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The funny thing is: often the people who are accused of being mean/rude/unfriendly are people who spend an exceptional amount of time, each and every day, helping people in these forums! It's FREE tech support. You get "mean" when you deserve it and you are not entitled to complain about it, in my opinion.
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He had like 7 post...I'm not thinking so.
Nevertheless people will ask everyday a question that has already been answered. If somebody is going to call me stupid along with other names I don't want their help, I'll eventually figure it out myself. I was just hoping to significantly speed up the process by asking a question I didn't see asked yet on the forum. (Or if it was I didn't see it and yes I did look)
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Simple as opening up your web browser and googling it. All you have to do is sort through the posts and READ through it.
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Simple as opening up your web browser and googling it. All you have to do is sort through the posts and READ through it.
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.......I did...nevermind about the post...I don't think I'm going to get any help here. I'll check another forum out to see if we have any solutions as of yet. Thanks for your guys time.
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Finally figured it out with the help of a few friends. Again for those who helped thanks for your time!
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.......I did...nevermind about the post...I don't think I'm going to get any help here. I'll check another forum out to see if we have any solutions as of yet. Thanks for your guys time.
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I'm not quite understanding you. Instead of "checking another forum out to see if we have any solutions as of yet", why didn't you take the time to read what has been posted about it in this forum (as suggested)? People (here) even gave you a screenshot and instructions on how to find the EXACT links that would have helped. Was that not enough? I think you are being difficult just to be difficult...or do you really think that you shouldn't have to take the time to research and learn about something even when the links are handed to you? Maybe you should take a little of YOUR time to read and learn a little bit instead of expecting people to take THEIR time to answer your questions that have already been answered multiple times elsewhere, especially when people are nice enough to show you the way. What is your definition of "help"?
You don't have to answer any of this if you don't want to, I actually rather you didn't.
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I'm not quite understanding you. Instead of "checking another forum out to see if we have any solutions as of yet", why didn't you take the time to read what has been posted about it in this forum (as suggested)? People (here) even gave you a screenshot and instructions on how to find the EXACT links that would have helped. Was that not enough? I think you are being difficult just to be difficult...or do you really think that you shouldn't have to take the time to research and learn about something even when the links are handed to you? Maybe you should take a little of YOUR time to read and learn a little bit instead of expecting people to take THEIR time to answer your questions that have already been answered multiple times elsewhere, especially when people are nice enough to show you the way. What is your definition of "help"?
You don't have to answer any of this if you don't want to, I actually rather you didn't.
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I'm not even going to fight with you. I'd suggest sticking on topic. Anyways I did thank those that helped so don't complain at me for not reading something you know about.
Nevertheless my recovery is working again now. Something that XDA doesn't have posted on it (at least for the mf3). Maybe I could be more of a nerd and explain things in more detail like I should have. I have been pretty sick these last few weeks. I'm a disabled veteran and have quite a lot of problems. You don't freaking know me. Don't tell me what I'm trying to be. Just because I'm not as familiar with this forum like you doesn't mean I didn't freaking try.
I am TRUELY sorry for the inconvenience I have put you through. I won't ask anymore questions here again. I'll go where I should have in the first place.
P.S. - read ALL my post before you decide to play God and tell me what I am. A post I referee to earlier was deleted so it kinda makes me look like a you know what.
Please don't try to bash me here anymore as I really never meant to offend anyone here. Its just really depressing to me that just because you found something and I didn't I'm the idiot.
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I'm not even going to fight with you. I'd suggest sticking on topic. Anyways I did thank those that helped so don't complain at me for not reading something you know about.
Nevertheless my recovery is working again now. Something that XDA doesn't have posted on it (at least for the mf3). Maybe I could be more of a nerd and explain things in more detail like I should have. I have been pretty sick these last few weeks. I'm a disabled veteran and have quite a lot of problems. You don't freaking know me. Don't tell me what I'm trying to be. Just because I'm not as familiar with this forum like you doesn't mean I didn't freaking try.
I am TRUELY sorry for the inconvenience I have put you through. I won't ask anymore questions here again. I'll go where I should have in the first place.
P.S. - read ALL my post before you decide to play God and tell me what I am. A post I referee to earlier was deleted so it kinda makes me look like a you know what.
Please don't try to bash me here anymore as I really never meant to offend anyone here. Its just really depressing to me that just because you found something and I didn't I'm the idiot.
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You don't have to listen to the suggestions of people that are trying to help you, It's nothing personal. Good luck and I hope your health improves.
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You don't have to listen to the suggestions of people that are trying to help you, It's nothing personal. Good luck and I hope your health improves.
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Thanks. It does make me feel better that we can end on a good note .
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Wow - 1 question and 2 pages of beating this poor guy senseless.
No disrespect but you guys/gals with 1000+ posts, try to remember when you where single digit posts.
Some people dont "haunt" this forum day and night and know "common" issues/symptoms and their fixes.
I see lots of threads with what appear to be valid questions and just about all say "this has been covered - do some research".
I hope I never go to a Doctor and say "I dont feel well, my nose is running and feel itchy" and they respond "this has been covered - do some research".
Again no disrespect but WOW!!!!
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Wow - 1 question and 2 pages of beating this poor guy senseless.
No disrespect but you guys/gals with 1000+ posts, try to remember when you where single digit posts.
Some people dont "haunt" this forum day and night and know "common" issues/symptoms and their fixes.
I see lots of threads with what appear to be valid questions and just about all say "this has been covered - do some research".
I hope I never go to a Doctor and say "I dont feel well, my nose is running and feel itchy" and they respond "this has been covered - do some research".
Again no disrespect but WOW!!!!
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If you find a doctor who provides around the clock support for free, let me know!
If that doctor posts the answers to most of your ailments right on the door when you walk in with a big READ THIS FIRST sign...and you walk right past it and ask him a question that's on the door, do you think that might get annoying?
Ok, I'm tired of this analogy!