You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the Huawei P20 Pro performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.
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Selphie quality
The quality of the Selphie camera is dire. Please can there be an update to cure over exposed shots ....even with the beauty gimmick turned off.
This spoils the brilliance of the rear camera.
Pkkpkppk said:
The quality of the Selphie camera is dire. Please can there be an update to cure over exposed shots ....even with the beauty gimmick turned off.
This spoils the brilliance of the rear camera.
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agreed - its awful
One can see they invested all the time into rear cameras. SW update can easily fix front camera performance if they figure this out and will bother.
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But thanks to that really glossy finish on back it's easy to take selfie with rear camera for now.
delete me
Absolute terrible selfie cam..
Rear camera (portraits) is better but still really really bad.
We got an update but still selfie camera is baad
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according to this guy (the tech chap) on youtube, if you take selfies in photo mode instead of portrait it's better (4:45)
anyone can confirm?
I've had several Huawei phones (p10, p10 plus, mate 9, mate 10) they have never improved the camera In the fw updates so don't hold you breath...
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Gerstark said:
v=yIYz9HbzsIw (can't post links yet)
according to this guy (the tech chap) on youtube, if you take selfies in photo mode instead of portrait it's better (4:45)
anyone can confirm?
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Better but still really bad...
Wow, just got my P20Pro and took some pics in auto mode only and will start to play around with Pro later. So far, I love the camera. It is awesome and very colorful to my liking. To me, this was worth the price for the camera alone! I am not going to compare with my Samsung s9+ as I don't nit pic my photos. They are what they are and it is good enough for me.
Gerstark said:
v=yIYz9HbzsIw (can't post links yet)
according to this guy (the tech chap) on youtube, if you take selfies in photo mode instead of portrait it's better (4:45)
anyone can confirm?
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Not true...I've tried every single mode. and front facing camera performs terribly awfull. There should be an update to clean this mess. Trying to port pixel 2 camera to the P20 but still no success.
i have p20 pro in my case i am using app camera+ and using filter cinema,after somes adjusts,i take in good light good selfies really.try and say.dont know if can post photo here.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.an...-camera-improvements-via-beta-update.html/amp Does this improve the front camera?
Selfie camera is awful. Doesn't matter you turned off the beauty mode. Photos are too soft and blurry. Pretty much useless. It is a shame, otherwise it is a great phone.
Camera is superior on the P20 Pro, that's what they brag about. how ever the pictures are almost to perfect in auto mode. the AI is very good but maybe a little to much. The Pro mode is very cool, it allow you to control the camera like a full body camera.
Google photo app for quick editing
Someone on another thread suggested
Take photo, save and tap on more ....
Advance edit
Google photo
Then click on one of the filters
Auto seem to work much better
I found solution for selfies in Open Camera. With manual ISO and shutter speed (ISO 50, shutter speed 1/25s in example photo attached, straight from Open Camera app without any editing) 24MP resolution. You have to nail fixed focus distance, for me it's about 3/4 extended arm. I use Open Camera also for 3.5K EIS stabilized video, as 4K does not support EIS. For video I also use manual ISO, continuous focus for both video and photo, 24 fps for video for better low light performance, 30Mbps bit rate. One can also trick F/2.4 80mm zoom lens to work in darker conditions, where stock Huawei camera app already fallbacks to F/1.8 40MP, using manual ISO and shutter speed resulting in very detailed 10x zoom shots even in less than ideal light, with bit more noise as trade-off for higher ISO values compared to stock Huawei camera app. Currently on .152 FW. Maybe if I remember, I'll create some guide for this. Cheers.
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That is the best selfie quality shot I have seen on the P20 pro so far. But if that is "3/4 extended arm length", you must have T-rex arms. When I take a shot with 3/4 extended arm length I am way further off than you.
fake beauty mode is terrible
Same here man
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Selfie camera is awful. Doesn't matter you turned off the beauty mode. Photos are too soft and blurry. Pretty much useless. It is a shame, otherwise it is a great phone.
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I have the exact same problem. If I take a selfie of myself it's okay. However, the second I'm in that situation where I take a group selfie with 2-3 people I find that someone in the photo will end up blurry. The blur appears to be more down to motion than effects. If someone moves they become out of focus. My friend has the Mate 10 Pro and her phone takes far superior group selfie's with the front facing camera on that device.
One thing I did find though was that as soon as I turned off the 'perfect selfie' setting, my group selfies improved in general. It seems the AI was using my face as the main focus point for everything involving the front facing camera. That's a feature I would have welcomed had it not been for the fact my friends were getting blurred as a result.
That said, i've found myself resorting to blindly taking selfies using the rear camera with no visual reference just hoping it comes out okay. All I'm all disappointed with the selfie camera.
If there is absolutely anyone out there that has the complete opposite opinion and are happy to share their precise settings from top to bottom with us then please come forward. I sit here hoping that there's just something I'm not doing right and it can be fixed with just a bit of advice.
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Myles_version21 said:
I have the exact same problem. If I take a selfie of myself it's okay. However, the second I'm in that situation where I take a group selfie with 2-3 people I find that someone in the photo will end up blurry. The blur appears to be more down to motion than effects. If someone moves they become out of focus. My friend has the Mate 10 Pro and her phone takes far superior group selfie's with the front facing camera on that device.
One thing I did find though was that as soon as I turned off the 'perfect selfie' setting, my group selfies improved in general. It seems the AI was using my face as the main focus point for everything involving the front facing camera. That's a feature I would have welcomed had it not been for the fact my friends were getting blurred as a result.
That said, i've found myself resorting to blindly taking selfies using the rear camera with no visual reference just hoping it comes out okay. All I'm all disappointed with the selfie camera.
If there is absolutely anyone out there that has the complete opposite opinion and are happy to share their precise settings from top to bottom with us then please come forward. I sit here hoping that there's just something I'm not doing right and it can be fixed with just a bit of advice.
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In reply to my own post, here's an example of what I get with most selfie pics. Okay yes I'm on a train but its going slow so minimal movement with my hands. The photo appears in focus when looking at the screen but as soon as you snap you get this happening almost every time.
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https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-xXlWuTTgkAXurBS6wZpR1W2aczndWLC
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Helo guys em new to this community...yeasterday i got my LG G6 ( India) ever since i took it out of the box everything was fine except the camera...The pictures seems soo grainy & full of noise...Even in the indoor lighting conditions...I was in the impression that LG g6 camera is one of the best.But my front cam tooks pictures even worst than a VGA camera phone . I havnt got any update since yesterday my software details are as follow: Android version 7.0....Build Num NRD90U....Software version V10K-IND-XX
Please suggest a fix if anybody knows...
Try the google camera and post some pics from your g6
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/google-camera-hdr-ported-g6-t3655374
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Helo guys em new to this community...yeasterday i got my LG G6 ( India) ever since i took it out of the box everything was fine except the camera...The pictures seems soo grainy & full of noise...Even in the indoor lighting conditions...I was in the impression that LG g6 camera is one of the best.But my front cam tooks pictures even worst than a VGA camera phone . I havnt got any update since yesterday my software details are as follow: Android version 7.0....Build Num NRD90U....Software version V10K-IND-XX
Please suggest a fix if anybody knows...
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Try outdoor first to evaluate the camera quality with good lighting.
Indoor is subjective. Were you using a flash? What types of light, florescent, incandescent or LED?
Ajayrokr said:
Helo guys em new to this community...yeasterday i got my LG G6 ( India) ever since i took it out of the box everything was fine except the camera...The pictures seems soo grainy & full of noise...Even in the indoor lighting conditions...I was in the impression that LG g6 camera is one of the best.But my front cam tooks pictures even worst than a VGA camera phone . I havnt got any update since yesterday my software details are as follow: Android version 7.0....Build Num NRD90U....Software version V10K-IND-XX
Please suggest a fix if anybody knows...
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Were you trying with wide Angle? Because, wide angle sometimes get grainy..
Check camera settings they are set for lower resolutions from factory
Hello, i've got same trouble. Selfies in low light (even some front picture) looks like "aquarel" filter...
Im french and have a LG H870
Thanks
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I feel the same
got mine last week and i cannot make a decent shot with auto, even my old Iphone6 is more capable of making a good shot.
Indoors is terrible, like a oil painting and most of the time not sharp.
I dont get it, did i got a Lemon? I will try some time but if this is not getting better i will send it back. Besides that i like the phone, feels good but i will not have a phone where the camera sucks / the automode sucks. Which is the same for me, because i just want to snap pics and not work on dials (for this i have my dslr) . And coming from a Sony z3c, which also was a fine phone except the camera, the iphone is just meant as a substitute, i dont see the point in keeping that thing.
Aye, aye aye, at least the good thing is that it was not that expensive
Low light photos on the G6 are poor. Nothing wrong with your phone, its just the sensor that was used. Gcam doesn't really help, IMHO. Don't try to zoom in too much and you won't notice the noise in the photo too much.
I also notice that the G6 camera is not that thing there, but I noticed that when taking a photo with the phone as still as possible they are better. My problem is the videos that are shaking a lot, especially at night.
Well this is something I haven't seen on smartphone photos yet. This is low light photo and I tried to keep phone as steady as possible. So there is quite nice details on the background, but very, very heavy processing in the area that contain movement. Is it the sensor or camera app itself that does this? It is like only certain areas of the photo are processed more than the rest.
I have almost same problem, with the main/frontal camera on LG G6 (LS 993) Sprint.
All execpt the camera working good.
I'm looking on my photo and i want to cry.
First of all i have tried to use my standard camera, then i used google cam and other soft - no result.
Maybe some1 knows how to fix this problem. brgds
You are encountering the limits of a cellphone camera. Very low light, combined with a small sensor, high ISO and low shutter speed=crappy photo. You can't defeat the laws of optics. In the lighting conditions of the photo in the snow, you would have to have a good SLR camera to capture action shots with any clarity.
Indeed.
Also be aware that of the 3 G6 cameras, only the rear standard one is even remotely capable of acceptable image quality in low light.
The ultra-wide is slow (f/2.4), unstabilized, and on some devices downright broken.
Front cam is simply not very good.
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You are encountering the limits of a cellphone camera. Very low light, combined with a small sensor, high ISO and low shutter speed=crappy photo. You can't defeat the laws of optics. In the lighting conditions of the photo in the snow, you would have to have a good SLR camera to capture action shots with any clarity.
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I know the limits of smartphone camera. But the interesting thing in my sample photo is that there is jpeg processing in only PARTS of the image. There is quite good amount of details in those parts which did not have any movement (by the object and by the device).
Yes I see what you mean. The processing artifacts seem to be concentrated on the edges of the figure. My guess is that the software is detecting the blurry edges and attempting to "sharpen", unsuccessfully.
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I know the limits of smartphone camera. But the interesting thing in my sample photo is that there is jpeg processing in only PARTS of the image. There is quite good amount of details in those parts which did not have any movement (by the object and by the device).
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About the front camera "issues":
if your selfies look like this:
- that's normal. my camera does the same thing (in all camera apps), I really have to edit the sh*t out of them in Photoshop to get acceptable results
I saw someone calling it an aquamarell effect and yup, that's exactly it
Really don't know what the hell is the issue with that sensor, I didn't think that 5mp pics would ever look that blurry lol
I was wondering about the camera quality right when I read that the sensor's pixel size is merely 1.12 µm, which is actually the lowest I ever saw in a mid-range to high-end phone. The standard is 1.4 µm, my 2 years old Nexus 5X even has 1.55 µm, which easily compensates for the smaller aperture of f/2.0 compared to f/1.8 in the L6.
The bigger the pixels on the sensor, the more light information (e.g. brightness, colors) they can capture. That's also the reason why it's better to have less pixels in total (e.g. 12 MP instead of 16 MP), giving each single pixel more space to capture light, especially on such small sensors.
So the low-light performance of this camera comes as no suprise to me.
This actually kept my from buying the L6, which I otherwise liked when I held it in my hands.
From my experience the pictures are ok/good, but the video done indoor is really poor, I have a strange feeling, that my old G2 made better videos....
@simeoni,
about your low light photo. It is possible that the smudged area around the moving object is because the phone camera is taking more than one image similar to the hdr process so it can eliminate the noise, it is possible that this is the hdr itself if it is turned on. This is because the area around the moving object as well as the object itself has less info recorded for the same pixels from the image (as it was shot in one image not few like usually the hdr or low light noise reduction images are done for good quality) and thats why is not looking that sharp.
Sorry my english is not native and i am not sure if i explained it good enough. For reference check how HDR and/or image stacking noice reduction work.
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I compare samsung note 4 photo vs lg g6 and I can say.... note 4 win in all ways in photo quality. Ofc dont have ultra wide buuut? Collor , sharpness, noise ? Note 4 win. I own lg g6+ h870dsu
You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
#BEAUTYGATE once again.
Even with Master AI turned off, Portrait mode seems to want to smooth my skin and make the brightness horribly bright.
It really ruins the image, I feel the selfie camera, if anything, is worse than my S8 Plus.
The live preview of my selfie just as I am going to take it shows my face "beautified" to the point where even my hair is smoothened (I have black hair so it's really noticeable).
When taking the picture in portrait mode, it tells me it's going to sharpen it so I shouldn't move for a few moments.
The image then comes out, a lot better than the live preview, you can actually see my hair a bit better, however the colour is still horribly off, I'm a semi tan shaded person, however using this front facing camera, I Seem to be extremely light and white.
Please someone tell me it's not just me??
It could be a bug that the live image is making my face extremely smooth and then sharpening it up once I take the picture, but for what reason should it be like this??
Also, the additional modes for the funky colourful backgrounds etc, DO NOT APPEAR for me when using the live preview. It's only when I snap the picture will the image in my gallery appear with the additional effects.
Has someone found the settings to make selfies look good here?
I saw some video camera reviews on yt where selfies look great, but dont tell what settings they use.
anybody knows?
Surely a selfie thread needs example selfies ;o)
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Portrait Mode
In another topic someone mentioned that the quality will be improved with update 122.
YakuzaNeko said:
#BEAUTYGATE once again.
Even with Master AI turned off, Portrait mode seems to want to smooth my skin and make the brightness horribly bright.
It really ruins the image, I feel the selfie camera, if anything, is worse than my S8 Plus.
The live preview of my selfie just as I am going to take it shows my face "beautified" to the point where even my hair is smoothened (I have black hair so it's really noticeable).
When taking the picture in portrait mode, it tells me it's going to sharpen it so I shouldn't move for a few moments.
The image then comes out, a lot better than the live preview, you can actually see my hair a bit better, however the colour is still horribly off, I'm a semi tan shaded person, however using this front facing camera, I Seem to be extremely light and white.
Please someone tell me it's not just me??
It could be a bug that the live image is making my face extremely smooth and then sharpening it up once I take the picture, but for what reason should it be like this??
Also, the additional modes for the funky colourful backgrounds etc, DO NOT APPEAR for me when using the live preview. It's only when I snap the picture will the image in my gallery appear with the additional effects.
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This happened to me too i have black dark skin and i look white on the selfie camera its so bright and overexposed. Same thing happens on snapchat
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This happened to me too i have black dark skin and i look white on the selfie camera its so bright and overexposed. Same thing happens on snapchat
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I think that happens due to the image processing and what is desirable in Asian countries. The mass public they designed it for desire a lighter smoother face. But I could be assuming and completely wrong. My S9+ does this too and it drives me nuts. I hope it can be turned off somehow.
My gf just got a mate 20 pro. When we took our first photos together we immediately noticed they were so much whiter as compared to my s9+. Now I'm trying to find a solution so ended up here.
Disable the beauty effect..
in portrait mode you can change warmth so it can have some impact on skin tone.
I have a mate 20x but hence to same camera sensor i got a question... in portrait selfie i dont really get a bokeh effect (until i choose the backround light shapes) is that normal ? i think it should have a normal one too no?
Turn off all beauty features, except 'warmth'. In 'warmth' settings, tap on the most brown color on the left side, resulting in more natural image than none.
If u dont want overexposed face image, tap on the screen of your face first, then snap. But it looks like u loose HDR feature if taking pictures that way.
Hopefully these customer complaints will be addressed in software updates...after all, it's just processing (heavy handed) and not the camera.
That's true, the cameras on these phones is supposed to be top notch. Hopefully Huawei can adjust the software side to improve the results.
Why doesnt the front camera portrait mode blur the background?
It is meant to be like this?
Photo mode and portrait mode looks the same to me ( Front camera)
Some people claim that update 146 improves selfie quality. All I can tell is my lips don't seem to be pinkish as before but the overexposure processing still persists. Skin is pale and lacking details.
I have tried everything, including lowering exposure and choosing the darkest skintone. The photos still look weird. Post editing with google album app helps improve it, but troublesome when you have to share with family or friends.
In the end, I just ditched native camera app for selfie and am using hedgecam app. Lower one level of exposure and I look so much more natural.
I bought three phones from Huawei: Mate 8, P20 Pro, Mate 20 Pro. This problem has exisited since P20 series and still hasn't been addressed. Basically I have given up hopes. It's the Chinese sense of beauty.
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Why doesnt the front camera portrait mode blur the background?
It is meant to be like this?
Photo mode and portrait mode looks the same to me ( Front camera)
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you need to click on that star on left bottom corner and choose an effect.
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you need to click on that star on left bottom corner and choose an effect.
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Thanks.
It is weird that we need to enable the blur feature after we select the portrait mode.
Is there any difference between the portrait mode with blur mode off and nornal camera mode?
For selfies, we find the usual smoothing of the skin, but it is not too pronounced here. Huawei pushes the luxury to propose some selfies effects with different backgrounds: pop, folding blinds ... the result don't make me happy.
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I think on .171 update, front camera got huge upgrade on low lights and skin tone looks much more natural now.
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Huawei P30 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
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Hi everyone. Any camera improvements over Mate 20 Pro?
No sample photo here?
It's hard to find one even in youtube since all attention goes to the Pro version...
On my Channel you can find a review (but in german)
youtube.com/mobilejack
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Hi everyone. Any camera improvements over Mate 20 Pro?
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Hi. To be honest, camera improvements over Mate 20 Pro is minimal. I own this phone right now as well as Pixel 3 XL. Previously had Mate 20 Pro for 4 month. I expected much better and more consistent shots compared to Mate 20 Pro. But it is not the case here unfortunately. Hit and miss is still the proper description of camera experience. Sure the phone is able to produce really nice photos but heaps of crappy ones popping up too (over-, underexposed, overcontrasted, out of focus...). I wish that P30 would be better than Pixel 3 XL in camera department at least and I'd finally ditch the last one.
At the same time I'd recommend P30 (non-Pro) over Mate 20 Pro due to slightly better (warm) camera tone to my test, more comfortable size, much better fingerprint scanner, flat (!) screen, better speakers (even not stereo ones), headphone jack. Wireless charging can be added for extra $50 via quite nice official Huawei wireless charging case.
P30 Lite cam test
Selfie cam quality seems a bit iffy, says 32MP but more often than not I get a worse quality image than my 8MP selfie cam on the S9 gave, similarity the 40MP setting for the rear cam I can see no difference between 10MP and 40MP, I took a photo across the room of a label on a box, zoomed in on 10MP and 40MP and they were both exactly the same as each other in terms of quality and readability, only difference I see is you lose some options with 40MP such as zoom
Focus seems fairly bad too, it borders my face to say it knows my face is there but when I check the photo it has actually focussed on something behind me or my top or something other than my face, which is slightly OOF compared
In bright sunlight the 10MP rear cam takes great pics, low light is clever but not great quality, seems like Huawei spent too much of their time adding features and gimmicks than actually making sure everything basic worked properly first
That yellowish tint is horrible. When the light is a little bit worse it appears... What is intresting - on ultra wide mode it looks much more normally, no yellow tint, colors look more realistic. My HTC 10 from 2016 do much more realistic shots and the quality is much more stable on its camera. Have you the same look on your cameras?
And imo photos are very unstable, sometimes great, sometimes sucks, low sharpness, yellow tint, candy colors, dont like it. On selfie cam at least it looks very good for me.
I don't know what's wrong with your camera. I have a HTC U11 with GCam installed, (was my previous phone) and i like to compare very often the camera side by side and for daytime they look pretty similar, sometimes i prefer the P30, sometimes U11, but on low light, there's no contest, the P30 is way ahead, as it should be. And for the consistency, we have to accept that the lack of OIS means we have to be a little more careful when we take pictures.
Hey, thanks for answer. Dont know how about u11, but i found in my HTC 10 more softness image, in p30 looks a litttle bit grainy when you zoom photo you made. Have u seen that too? Yeah, in good light the same opinion : one time htc, one time p30. But when im in the building, room etc. p30 begins to give yellow shade. Maybe ill upload some shots later to compare.
In low light sometimes shots loks unreal lighty, but sometimes camera makes perfect job
I uploaded some shots :
First are the night shots : one the most realistic regulated manualy, one in auto, one in night mode - auto and night mode looks so unreal, dont like it.
Next in room : one in auto, one on ultra wide mode which gives much more realistic colors, on auto that yellowish tint.
And shots from work one on auto which gives yellow tints, and one on 3x tele which looks much more realistic (the tiles color) than auto.
Huawei made alot of intrested things, but they didnt paid enough attention and work on main camera in my opinion.
https://ibb.co/QJ2K294 - auto, turned light down manually
https://ibb.co/xYfS0hX - night mode (wtf?)
https://ibb.co/kMmw9WP - auto (wtf?)
https://ibb.co/fGWk39t - auto (wtf?)
https://ibb.co/xXTM5GX - zoom x3
https://ibb.co/pjnXSpN - auto (wtf?)
https://ibb.co/5hVx4k1 - wide-angle
This camera seems to take better shots in monochrome than colour
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Hello. Can anybody compare P20 PRO with P30 (not pro) in camera quality? I have had P20 Pro for a moment but "hit and miss" camera quality, especially for fast moving objects (children) forced me to sell it. Now I am thinking about P30 (not pro), but if it doesn't have OIS can I expect real any improvement in camera quality?
OIS or not you won't find much if any difference with either of those, they take too much time to process the photo once u press the shutter hence the hit or miss
This is odd. My three years old HTC U11 have IMHO better photo recurrence as P20 PRO (more hits nor miss). Also less images were blurred with U11 like with P20 PRO.
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Hello. Can anybody compare P20 PRO with P30 (not pro) in camera quality? I have had P20 Pro for a moment but "hit and miss" camera quality, especially for fast moving objects (children) forced me to sell it. Now I am thinking about P30 (not pro), but if it doesn't have OIS can I expect real any improvement in camera quality?
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Not so big difference in cameras !
OIS and EIS both both work together for better image processing!
P30 screen size is perfect for me !
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Like most of you I had much bigger expectation from P30 camera, but I am totally disappointed specially when found out cannot shoot in RAW, now I wish I went with my initial guts feeling and purchased the LG
hyewiz said:
Like most of you I had much bigger expectation from P30 camera, but I am totally disappointed specially when found out cannot shoot in RAW, now I wish I went with my initial guts feeling and purchased the LG
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witch LG?
hyewiz said:
Like most of you I had much bigger expectation from P30 camera, but I am totally disappointed specially when found out cannot shoot in RAW, now I wish I went with my initial guts feeling and purchased the LG
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You can shoot RAW photos in PRO Mode only!
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Hi. I've just get the unit today. It was exynos and I find out the camera was truly bad at dim condition. Even when comparing s20 ultra to note 9, the note 9 picture was much better. I have update my s20 ultra firmware to the latest from Samsung.
Look at the face. The s20 ultra result was having what looks like compression artifact. But it's right out of the camera without any editing. This only happen in dim condition. And also this happens to face only since other than face there's no artifact at all.
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well for one thing it's blurry from the head moving. Second i agree it looks like $hit (no offense to your baby!)
I have no advice other than to say it's unbelievable we could pay $1400 for such an unfinished product..steadily I am losing more and more faith in samsung. At least you were able to get the camera to focus!
We all have similar issues and I think that all of us waiting for the next SW update are customers with a lot of faith. At least Samsung admitted it and if they cannot fix it with the next update then probably most of the phones will be returned.
did you know the 108 megapixel is not on by default? youll have to change the aspect ratio and before you take a picture it should show from the settings which megapixel you are using.
Same. It's very blurry / grainy (yet unnecessarily oversharpened) at the same time in low indoor lighting.
buddy66 said:
At least Samsung admitted it and if they cannot fix it with the next update then probably most of the phones will be returned.
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Can you link me?
xnostra said:
did you know the 108 megapixel is not on by default? youll have to change the aspect ratio and before you take a picture it should show from the settings which megapixel you are using.
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What? The post has nothing to do with (and no mention of) the 108mp mode.
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dazed1 said:
Can you link me?
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They didn't admit anything. It was I think a Twitter post that said something like "Samsung is committed to delivering the best experience for their customers, blah blah blah constantly working to improve experiences for everyone."
It was generic like that
There was an answer to The Verge that they will work on to deliver the best camera experience. Yes it was generic but camera oriented and it is good that they responded.
xnostra said:
did you know the 108 megapixel is not on by default? youll have to change the aspect ratio and before you take a picture it should show from the settings which megapixel you are using.
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I'm not talking about the 108mpx. Also the 108mpx didn't help with the pict quality.
For now the only solution is to use pro mode.
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I'm not talking about the 108mpx. Also the 108mpx didn't help with the pict quality.
For now the only solution is to use pro mode.
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Have you turned off bixby scene optimizer? Watched a YT video earlier that claimed turning it off gets rid of the awful skin smoothing effects.
jwwagner25 said:
Have you turned off bixby scene optimizer? Watched a YT video earlier that claimed turning it off gets rid of the awful skin smoothing effects.
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Yes I've try it. No luck at all. The skin smoothing still happening
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Yes I've try it. No luck at all. The skin smoothing still happening
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I did a pic of myself after the ATBM update and my skin colour was the same as when I turned my head 90 degrees to the side. There was also no smoothing and I could see my pores and other natural stuff
buddy66 said:
I did a pic of myself after the ATBM update and my skin colour was the same as when I turned my head 90 degrees to the side. There was also no smoothing and I could see my pores and other natural stuff
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Did you use your selfie or the main sensor?
If you are using main sensor, could you try using auto mode and Pro mode and share the result to here? Also cna you snap your picture in dim area, since I notice the processing occurred in a dim area was more aggressive than on a bright area.
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Did you use your selfie or the main sensor?
If you are using main sensor, could you try using auto mode and Pro mode and share the result to here? Also cna you snap your picture in dim area, since I notice the processing occurred in a dim area was more aggressive than on a bright area.
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I have used the main sensor and it was at work during day time with not bad light conditions. I will give it a try in light dimmed area and give you feedback.
buddy66 said:
I have used the main sensor and it was at work during day time with not bad light conditions. I will give it a try in light dimmed area and give you feedback.
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Thanks. And also try move your head slightly when you snap the photo. I'm interested on the result.
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Thanks. And also try move your head slightly when you snap the photo. I'm interested on the result.
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This. I noticed in your first picture the hair on your child's head is blurry. I have a feeling what happened is there was motion in the photo and in trying to fix the motion created all of the weird artifact effect. you'll notice the hair from your note 9 photo is sharp and clear, likely because there was no motion while the photo was taken.
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This. I noticed in your first picture the hair on your child's head is blurry. I have a feeling what happened is there was motion in the photo and in trying to fix the motion created all of the weird artifact effect. you'll notice the hair from your note 9 photo is sharp and clear, likely because there was no motion while the photo was taken.
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The movement was indeed making the artifact worsen. But it also happen in no movement condition.
S20 ultra bad image processing
In this pict, the baby wasn't moving much (minimal movement) .
Movement make it worse.
This picture was in very bright room, the child wasn't moving and the artefact still happening, and take a look at the woman on the background. The artefact was really annoying
Yes I agree. I just took a photo of the news on TV and the anchors faces look like oil painting. How could Samsung have screwed up this badly...it's really unbelievable. And how more people aren't making afuss, I also don't understand.
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Yes I agree. I just took a photo of the news on TV and the anchors faces look like oil painting. How could Samsung have screwed up this badly...it's really unbelievable. And how more people aren't making afuss, I also don't understand.
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Yeah, I don't know what's going with the silence.
For now I'm using the pro mode with all settings set to auto. This way the picture processing won't happen and the picture was very good.
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The movement was indeed making the artifact worsen. But it also happen in no movement condition.
S20 ultra bad image processing
In this pict, the baby wasn't moving much (minimal movement) .
Movement make it worse.
This picture was in very bright room, the child wasn't moving and the artefact still happening, and take a look at the woman on the background. The artefact was really annoying
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It seems that the artifacts come from very bad hdr stitching. Try to take some photos with scene optimiser and hdr off, although it would probably make very little difference. The reason some other phones like pixel and iPhone cand take better shots of moving subjects is because they use something called zero shutter combined with a faster shutter. It means that the phone takes a lot of pictures before the picture is taken. Now, Samsung also uses a buffer since s9 with dedicated dram for the camera but probably is much lower and their hdr stiching is not as smart as Google's for example (accounting for movement in the frame). After all this time you'd think Samsung would figure this out but not many companies do this sadly). Also the big sensor that gathers more light should allow the phone to use faster shutter and bigger iso without introducing much more noise ala huwei.
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Huawei P40 Pro come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
i have mate 30 pro and p40 pro
I notice that mate 30 pro has better quality than p40 pro specially at night I will upload some pics
You will?
hmm ok?
I moved from p30 Pro to P40 pro - The main camera on par with better shots in the dark wors night mode?
Zoom is a lot better, but far from other cameras
Wide 18mm vs 16mm??? Bad move difference with main camera is not so big now and definitely far from Samsung's 13mm.
AI changed a lot especially in wide camera - pictures are not so punchy like P30's
Video is a lot better all over it but the zoom is not very good
Overall good improvement but not overwhelming.
Really struggling since the update I received yesterday ? Noisy night shots and a horrible pink/purple hue whenever the subject in the photo is black (my sofa for example). Would attach an example image but it doesn't seem to like me uploading anything ? Long term Huawei fan but for now I'm really unhappy. Preferred the P30 Pro.
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i have mate 30 pro and p40 pro
I notice that mate 30 pro has better quality than p40 pro specially at night I will upload some pics
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Are you sure? Yesterday was doing photos from mate 30 pro and p40 pro at night in the same place.
P40 pro Got really sharper details when you will zoom photos on pc.
Idk how to add photos then i will show here difference
I am a little disappointed, the pictures at night seem ok, but they are better with my old HTC U11 and GCam which is strange because the P40 Sensor is ten times bigger.
The pictures with the night mode are very noisy.
Do you think my P40 Pro have a problem ?
Here are the samples :
1) Huawaei P40 Pro
2) Huawei P40 Pro with night mode
3) HTC U11 with GCam and night mode
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I am a little disappointed, the pictures at night seem ok, but they are better with my old HTC U11 and GCam which is strange because the P40 Sensor is ten times bigger.
The pictures with the night mode are very noisy.
Do you think my P40 Pro have a problem ?
Here are the samples :
1) Huawaei P40 Pro
2) Huawei P40 Pro with night mode
3) HTC U11 with GCam and night mode
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you answered your question yourself, your using gcam try it with default camera they will not win with p40. if you want to make a straight comparison use gcam also on p40 then comeback at me
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you answered your question yourself, your using gcam try it with default camera they will not win with p40. if you want to make a straight comparison use gcam also on p40 then comeback at me
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I'd love it but I did not find any working GCam mod on the P40 Pro for now. If you know one, please tell me. From what I understand, it is difficult to port GCam on devices without snapdragon
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I'd love it but I did not find any working GCam mod on the P40 Pro for now. If you know one, please tell me. From what I understand, it is difficult to port GCam on devices without snapdragon
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try this
https://droidfunk.com/google-camera-7-4-for-huawei-p40-download/
although i dont like using gcam cause otherwise ill just buy a middle range phone if i will rely on that.
i bought a s20 ultra and p40 pro for their specs and their camera so if i will just be using gcam in the end then it means their camera is a fail.
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try this
https://droidfunk.com/google-camera-7-4-for-huawei-p40-download/
although i dont like using gcam cause otherwise ill just buy a middle range phone if i will rely on that.
i bought a s20 ultra and p40 pro for their specs and their camera so if i will just be using gcam in the end then it means their camera is a fail.
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Thank you. I am sorry but when I click on the button "Google Camera for Huawei P40" it sends me to another page with many different GCam mods without saying which one is for the P40. Can you please give me the exact link to apk I must download ? I am very interested.
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I am a little disappointed, the pictures at night seem ok, but they are better with my old HTC U11 and GCam which is strange because the P40 Sensor is ten times bigger.
The pictures with the night mode are very noisy.
Do you think my P40 Pro have a problem ?
Here are the samples :
1) Huawei P40 Pro
2) Huawei P40 Pro with night mode
3) HTC U11 with GCam and night mode
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Right now Night Mod on P40 indeed has some issue. Pretty sure it will be fixed soon in an update. Well its good already using Auto without Night Mod, where others left behind.
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Right now Night Mod on P40 indeed has some issue. Pretty sure it will be fixed soon in an update. Well its good already using Auto without Night Mod, where others left behind.
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Ok, I understand now, thank you.
Be paitient, I have read the below on Huwaei's UK website forum:
Huawei P40 series has just received a software update in China, that installs numerous system optimizations including the camera features and brings the new AI 50MP high-resolution camera mode.
AI 50MP Mode?
As the names reflect, this camera mode is the combination of AI and the 50MP ultra vision camera. When a user clicks the shutter button, it takes a three-second long shot, similar to the night mode and takes a number of images then combines it into one.
The process creates a high-resolution image created by the pixels taken from the images captured during the three seconds.
You can see the difference when you pinch and zoom the images taken from regular 50MP mode and the AI 50MP modes.
Huawei P40 series equips 50 MP Ultra Vision Camera (Wide Angle, f/1.9 aperture) including the largest CMOS sensor to date. Measuring 1/1.28 inches diagonally, compared to 1/1.7 inch type camera in P30 pro.
More on this update:
A week ago, Huawei P40 series received a first software update that installed a number of improvements related to its camera and system. Now there’s new software version rolling for this lineup but this time it’s for the Chinese users.
Huawei is rolling out a new update for Huawei P40 series that installs optimizations for the camera, Always on Display, multi-device control panel, display, and system stability.
The update comes in two packages and the changes are listed below.
CHANGES IN THIS UPDATE:
Camera: Optimizes the photo effect in high-pixel mode, improve the imaging quality, optimize the camera stability, and improve the shooting effect.
Always on Display: Adds a new condensed color scheme clock style.
Multi-Device Control Panel: Adds screen collaboration support for Huawei Vision TV X65, to share video playback.
Display: Optimizes the display effects.
System Stability: Improves system stability for better performance.
HUAWEI P40 SERIES EMUI VERSIONS:
Huawei P40 and P40 Pro receiving this update with EMUI version 10.1.0.122 and 711 MB in size. The update is currently rolling in China but it may also expand for other countries with a different version and a few changes.
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I have several issues with the camera myself. As one user here stated: my darkgray/black couch is purple/pinkish. Indoor videos changes colours, lots of yellow tone slightly transitioning to purple/pink and overubeautifiyng the scenery. Zooming in and out during the recording makes it horrible as the color changes a lot depending on to which lens it switches. Also the zoom is very jittery and camera jumps as it goes through the zoom and switches lenses. As soon as the lens switches, it kind of interrupts the recording for a fraction or turns black and then kind of like a lightbulb burns. Visible outdoor at daylight and very annoying at night or in darker areas/indoors.
60fps videos have horrible quality.
I have posted some samples on youtube, which I cannot link here due to being freshly registered after lurking around for years. Look up ThePussycuz if you care.
Pictures at night are very noisy and horrible, unrecognizable in the dark.
I wonder whether I have a faulty camera and should send it in or whether it gets fixed with future updates?
This is something the corrupt "review 2 weeks later- I'm working with Huawei $ )" , Youtubers wont tell you.
Anyway, Hope it gets fixed.
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This is something the corrupt "review 2 weeks later- I'm working with Huawei $ )" , Youtubers wont tell you.
Anyway, Hope it gets fixed.
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So you think it's a software matter? Not sure whether I want to send it in, especially since I finally managed to get GMS working.
Sorry, don't know. In dxomark review there was some green and red color cast errors, and in other reviews the nightmode seems unfinished. As in not actually gaining picture quality. Have just tested the p40 pro in shops. That one seemed like missing HDR capability, blown out highlights, and was extremely sensitive in terms of blurry picture due to hand/camera shake. Hope other who has more experience here can help you. The phone is still new and ofcourse be better with updates.
S20 64MP photos look better than 50MP P40 Pro photos.
I can post two sample pictures of both devices of the same scenery and you can clearly see that the 64MP Samsung sensor does a MUCH better job!
P40 PRO 50 MP main sensor:
S20 64MP sensor:
It's not even close!!!! Look at 100% and compare yourself
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S20
P40 PRO 100% cropped in
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I have several issues with the camera myself. As one user here stated: my darkgray/black couch is purple/pinkish. Indoor videos changes colours, lots of yellow tone slightly transitioning to purple/pink and overubeautifiyng the scenery. Zooming in and out during the recording makes it horrible as the color changes a lot depending on to which lens it switches. Also the zoom is very jittery and camera jumps as it goes through the zoom and switches lenses. As soon as the lens switches, it kind of interrupts the recording for a fraction or turns black and then kind of like a lightbulb burns. Visible outdoor at daylight and very annoying at night or in darker areas/indoors.
60fps videos have horrible quality.
I have posted some samples on youtube, which I cannot link here due to being freshly registered after lurking around for years. Look up ThePussycuz if you care.
Pictures at night are very noisy and horrible, unrecognizable in the dark.
I wonder whether I have a faulty camera and should send it in or whether it gets fixed with future updates?
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I had a look at your videos on Youtube.
You have a misunderstanding how the camera works, so thats why you get wrong results - or at least something you dont expect.
Your recorded video in 60fps does ZOOMING activities - and the P40 Pro simply cant record in 60fps on other lenses than the MAIN lense. So its ALL digital ZOOM in 60 fps videos.
Otherwise on the 30fps videos, the P40PRO can switch between the lenses during zooming - so of course, it can use it native 5times zoom lense - and so you get a much better result in the end.
Hope this clarifys it for other people too.