You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.
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#BEAUTYGATE once again.
Even with Master AI turned off, Portrait mode seems to want to smooth my skin and make the brightness horribly bright.
It really ruins the image, I feel the selfie camera, if anything, is worse than my S8 Plus.
The live preview of my selfie just as I am going to take it shows my face "beautified" to the point where even my hair is smoothened (I have black hair so it's really noticeable).
When taking the picture in portrait mode, it tells me it's going to sharpen it so I shouldn't move for a few moments.
The image then comes out, a lot better than the live preview, you can actually see my hair a bit better, however the colour is still horribly off, I'm a semi tan shaded person, however using this front facing camera, I Seem to be extremely light and white.
Please someone tell me it's not just me??
It could be a bug that the live image is making my face extremely smooth and then sharpening it up once I take the picture, but for what reason should it be like this??
Also, the additional modes for the funky colourful backgrounds etc, DO NOT APPEAR for me when using the live preview. It's only when I snap the picture will the image in my gallery appear with the additional effects.
Has someone found the settings to make selfies look good here?
I saw some video camera reviews on yt where selfies look great, but dont tell what settings they use.
anybody knows?
Surely a selfie thread needs example selfies ;o)
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In another topic someone mentioned that the quality will be improved with update 122.
YakuzaNeko said:
#BEAUTYGATE once again.
Even with Master AI turned off, Portrait mode seems to want to smooth my skin and make the brightness horribly bright.
It really ruins the image, I feel the selfie camera, if anything, is worse than my S8 Plus.
The live preview of my selfie just as I am going to take it shows my face "beautified" to the point where even my hair is smoothened (I have black hair so it's really noticeable).
When taking the picture in portrait mode, it tells me it's going to sharpen it so I shouldn't move for a few moments.
The image then comes out, a lot better than the live preview, you can actually see my hair a bit better, however the colour is still horribly off, I'm a semi tan shaded person, however using this front facing camera, I Seem to be extremely light and white.
Please someone tell me it's not just me??
It could be a bug that the live image is making my face extremely smooth and then sharpening it up once I take the picture, but for what reason should it be like this??
Also, the additional modes for the funky colourful backgrounds etc, DO NOT APPEAR for me when using the live preview. It's only when I snap the picture will the image in my gallery appear with the additional effects.
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This happened to me too i have black dark skin and i look white on the selfie camera its so bright and overexposed. Same thing happens on snapchat
best24 said:
This happened to me too i have black dark skin and i look white on the selfie camera its so bright and overexposed. Same thing happens on snapchat
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I think that happens due to the image processing and what is desirable in Asian countries. The mass public they designed it for desire a lighter smoother face. But I could be assuming and completely wrong. My S9+ does this too and it drives me nuts. I hope it can be turned off somehow.
My gf just got a mate 20 pro. When we took our first photos together we immediately noticed they were so much whiter as compared to my s9+. Now I'm trying to find a solution so ended up here.
Disable the beauty effect..
in portrait mode you can change warmth so it can have some impact on skin tone.
I have a mate 20x but hence to same camera sensor i got a question... in portrait selfie i dont really get a bokeh effect (until i choose the backround light shapes) is that normal ? i think it should have a normal one too no?
Turn off all beauty features, except 'warmth'. In 'warmth' settings, tap on the most brown color on the left side, resulting in more natural image than none.
If u dont want overexposed face image, tap on the screen of your face first, then snap. But it looks like u loose HDR feature if taking pictures that way.
Hopefully these customer complaints will be addressed in software updates...after all, it's just processing (heavy handed) and not the camera.
That's true, the cameras on these phones is supposed to be top notch. Hopefully Huawei can adjust the software side to improve the results.
Why doesnt the front camera portrait mode blur the background?
It is meant to be like this?
Photo mode and portrait mode looks the same to me ( Front camera)
Some people claim that update 146 improves selfie quality. All I can tell is my lips don't seem to be pinkish as before but the overexposure processing still persists. Skin is pale and lacking details.
I have tried everything, including lowering exposure and choosing the darkest skintone. The photos still look weird. Post editing with google album app helps improve it, but troublesome when you have to share with family or friends.
In the end, I just ditched native camera app for selfie and am using hedgecam app. Lower one level of exposure and I look so much more natural.
I bought three phones from Huawei: Mate 8, P20 Pro, Mate 20 Pro. This problem has exisited since P20 series and still hasn't been addressed. Basically I have given up hopes. It's the Chinese sense of beauty.
pilico said:
Why doesnt the front camera portrait mode blur the background?
It is meant to be like this?
Photo mode and portrait mode looks the same to me ( Front camera)
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you need to click on that star on left bottom corner and choose an effect.
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you need to click on that star on left bottom corner and choose an effect.
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Thanks.
It is weird that we need to enable the blur feature after we select the portrait mode.
Is there any difference between the portrait mode with blur mode off and nornal camera mode?
For selfies, we find the usual smoothing of the skin, but it is not too pronounced here. Huawei pushes the luxury to propose some selfies effects with different backgrounds: pop, folding blinds ... the result don't make me happy.
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I think on .171 update, front camera got huge upgrade on low lights and skin tone looks much more natural now.
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Helo guys em new to this community...yeasterday i got my LG G6 ( India) ever since i took it out of the box everything was fine except the camera...The pictures seems soo grainy & full of noise...Even in the indoor lighting conditions...I was in the impression that LG g6 camera is one of the best.But my front cam tooks pictures even worst than a VGA camera phone . I havnt got any update since yesterday my software details are as follow: Android version 7.0....Build Num NRD90U....Software version V10K-IND-XX
Please suggest a fix if anybody knows...
Try the google camera and post some pics from your g6
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/google-camera-hdr-ported-g6-t3655374
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Helo guys em new to this community...yeasterday i got my LG G6 ( India) ever since i took it out of the box everything was fine except the camera...The pictures seems soo grainy & full of noise...Even in the indoor lighting conditions...I was in the impression that LG g6 camera is one of the best.But my front cam tooks pictures even worst than a VGA camera phone . I havnt got any update since yesterday my software details are as follow: Android version 7.0....Build Num NRD90U....Software version V10K-IND-XX
Please suggest a fix if anybody knows...
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Try outdoor first to evaluate the camera quality with good lighting.
Indoor is subjective. Were you using a flash? What types of light, florescent, incandescent or LED?
Ajayrokr said:
Helo guys em new to this community...yeasterday i got my LG G6 ( India) ever since i took it out of the box everything was fine except the camera...The pictures seems soo grainy & full of noise...Even in the indoor lighting conditions...I was in the impression that LG g6 camera is one of the best.But my front cam tooks pictures even worst than a VGA camera phone . I havnt got any update since yesterday my software details are as follow: Android version 7.0....Build Num NRD90U....Software version V10K-IND-XX
Please suggest a fix if anybody knows...
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Were you trying with wide Angle? Because, wide angle sometimes get grainy..
Check camera settings they are set for lower resolutions from factory
Hello, i've got same trouble. Selfies in low light (even some front picture) looks like "aquarel" filter...
Im french and have a LG H870
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I feel the same
got mine last week and i cannot make a decent shot with auto, even my old Iphone6 is more capable of making a good shot.
Indoors is terrible, like a oil painting and most of the time not sharp.
I dont get it, did i got a Lemon? I will try some time but if this is not getting better i will send it back. Besides that i like the phone, feels good but i will not have a phone where the camera sucks / the automode sucks. Which is the same for me, because i just want to snap pics and not work on dials (for this i have my dslr) . And coming from a Sony z3c, which also was a fine phone except the camera, the iphone is just meant as a substitute, i dont see the point in keeping that thing.
Aye, aye aye, at least the good thing is that it was not that expensive
Low light photos on the G6 are poor. Nothing wrong with your phone, its just the sensor that was used. Gcam doesn't really help, IMHO. Don't try to zoom in too much and you won't notice the noise in the photo too much.
I also notice that the G6 camera is not that thing there, but I noticed that when taking a photo with the phone as still as possible they are better. My problem is the videos that are shaking a lot, especially at night.
Well this is something I haven't seen on smartphone photos yet. This is low light photo and I tried to keep phone as steady as possible. So there is quite nice details on the background, but very, very heavy processing in the area that contain movement. Is it the sensor or camera app itself that does this? It is like only certain areas of the photo are processed more than the rest.
I have almost same problem, with the main/frontal camera on LG G6 (LS 993) Sprint.
All execpt the camera working good.
I'm looking on my photo and i want to cry.
First of all i have tried to use my standard camera, then i used google cam and other soft - no result.
Maybe some1 knows how to fix this problem. brgds
You are encountering the limits of a cellphone camera. Very low light, combined with a small sensor, high ISO and low shutter speed=crappy photo. You can't defeat the laws of optics. In the lighting conditions of the photo in the snow, you would have to have a good SLR camera to capture action shots with any clarity.
Indeed.
Also be aware that of the 3 G6 cameras, only the rear standard one is even remotely capable of acceptable image quality in low light.
The ultra-wide is slow (f/2.4), unstabilized, and on some devices downright broken.
Front cam is simply not very good.
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You are encountering the limits of a cellphone camera. Very low light, combined with a small sensor, high ISO and low shutter speed=crappy photo. You can't defeat the laws of optics. In the lighting conditions of the photo in the snow, you would have to have a good SLR camera to capture action shots with any clarity.
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I know the limits of smartphone camera. But the interesting thing in my sample photo is that there is jpeg processing in only PARTS of the image. There is quite good amount of details in those parts which did not have any movement (by the object and by the device).
Yes I see what you mean. The processing artifacts seem to be concentrated on the edges of the figure. My guess is that the software is detecting the blurry edges and attempting to "sharpen", unsuccessfully.
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I know the limits of smartphone camera. But the interesting thing in my sample photo is that there is jpeg processing in only PARTS of the image. There is quite good amount of details in those parts which did not have any movement (by the object and by the device).
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About the front camera "issues":
if your selfies look like this:
- that's normal. my camera does the same thing (in all camera apps), I really have to edit the sh*t out of them in Photoshop to get acceptable results
I saw someone calling it an aquamarell effect and yup, that's exactly it
Really don't know what the hell is the issue with that sensor, I didn't think that 5mp pics would ever look that blurry lol
I was wondering about the camera quality right when I read that the sensor's pixel size is merely 1.12 µm, which is actually the lowest I ever saw in a mid-range to high-end phone. The standard is 1.4 µm, my 2 years old Nexus 5X even has 1.55 µm, which easily compensates for the smaller aperture of f/2.0 compared to f/1.8 in the L6.
The bigger the pixels on the sensor, the more light information (e.g. brightness, colors) they can capture. That's also the reason why it's better to have less pixels in total (e.g. 12 MP instead of 16 MP), giving each single pixel more space to capture light, especially on such small sensors.
So the low-light performance of this camera comes as no suprise to me.
This actually kept my from buying the L6, which I otherwise liked when I held it in my hands.
From my experience the pictures are ok/good, but the video done indoor is really poor, I have a strange feeling, that my old G2 made better videos....
@simeoni,
about your low light photo. It is possible that the smudged area around the moving object is because the phone camera is taking more than one image similar to the hdr process so it can eliminate the noise, it is possible that this is the hdr itself if it is turned on. This is because the area around the moving object as well as the object itself has less info recorded for the same pixels from the image (as it was shot in one image not few like usually the hdr or low light noise reduction images are done for good quality) and thats why is not looking that sharp.
Sorry my english is not native and i am not sure if i explained it good enough. For reference check how HDR and/or image stacking noice reduction work.
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I compare samsung note 4 photo vs lg g6 and I can say.... note 4 win in all ways in photo quality. Ofc dont have ultra wide buuut? Collor , sharpness, noise ? Note 4 win. I own lg g6+ h870dsu
The A2 camera app is somewhat complex. One of the reviews I read indicated you can manually switch between the 12mp lens and the low-light 20mp lens.
The review also mentioned that the app switches between them under certain circumstances, but it's not known specifically what they are. So went ahead and did the manual switch and had some good results.
Get the menu on the bottom where u can select 'photo', 'portrait', etc. At the end of this list (swipe it left) you'll find 'manual'. Select that to choose numerous options including 'low light camera'.
Note the low light doesn't have the ability to enable HDR, which makes sense as HDR is used in high contrast lighting, which a low light shot won't have.
These results, taken a few seconds apart, show how the 'pixel binning' of the low light lens really helps:
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The A2 camera app is somewhat complex. One of the reviews I read indicated you can manually switch between the 12mp lens and the low-light 20mp lens.
The review also mentioned that the app switches between them under certain circumstances, but it's not known specifically what they are. So went ahead and did the manual switch and had some good results.
Get the menu on the bottom where u can select 'photo', 'portrait', etc. At the end of this list (swipe it left) you'll find 'manual'. Select that to choose numerous options including 'low light camera'.
Note the low light doesn't have the ability to enable HDR, which makes sense as HDR is used in high contrast lighting, which a low light shot won't have.
These results, taken a few seconds apart, show how the 'pixel binning' of the low light lens really helps:
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Tap the 3 horizontal lines button in top right corner, select HHT to manually turn on this feature without using manual mode...
what is hht
veeru1saini1 said:
Tap the 3 vertical lines button in top right corner, select HHT to manually turn on this feature without using manual mode...
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Thnx, I'll check that out.
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what is hht
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"HHT (Handheld Twilight) mode takes multiple sequential images under low light conditions, aligns them, and then create a single optimized image."
found on the web. Sounds well worth trying.
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Tap the 3 horizontal lines button in top right corner, select HHT to manually turn on this feature without using manual mode...
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Experimenting with this, surprisingly, it doesn't use the low light lens.
2 ways to determine that; 1st the obvious and most definitive; cover one or the other lens and determine which one it's using. In the case with 'Photo' and 'HHT', it's using the lower lens. But if you go to 'manual' mode I described, select 'low light lens', it's using the lens on top.
2nd is the megapixel size from 'info'. The lower lens (12 mp) results in 9 mp in info, while info for the top lens is 15 mp.
Kind of odd really, as HHT is described as ideal for 'low light', but it doesn't use the low light lens? what?
I don't figure out the different low light camera modes as well.
Hope Xiaomi will bring a camera update soon, to get rid of that camera mayhem.
On the homepage it is said: "Smart lens selection is available for Portait mode only. Support will be added for typical photo mode in a future update."
I think that the back camera is dooing quite good in the darkness - but its not easy to take a good picture quickly , due to the complicated menu...
It is confusing @deckimbal it does seem xiaomi is working on bug issues, which is great news.
Tested the HDR capability this morning, it seems to do a very good job. The differences are obvious. Should point out, the lens was (set to Auto, so I didn't select this as an option) wide open (f1.7), which creates a 'natural' depth of field effect.
What that means with these pictures is that some parts, unexpectedly, are a bit out of focus. The best focus seems to be where the cars are, zoom into those and you can see that.
Normally, a shot like this would want the largest depth of field possible, not the narrowest, but still a good example of HDR ability;
Another thing, I remember reading reviews that indicated the MiA2 would have a voice activated shutter ability? If it does, I can't find the setting.
Either a voice or hand gesture is kind of ideal for selfies with a number of people in it, using 2 hands on the phone means it has to be closer to the subjects and thus less of a field of vision. One hand with voice activation would be much appreciated
Is the setting there and I am too blind to see it? possible!
Unfortunately, it does not seem to be possible to disable the pixel binning. For comparison, find below details from two pictures taken with the lens manually selected. The first picture was taken with the regular lens. The second picture was taken with the low light lens. Notice that although the resolution in pixels is higher, there is less detail.
regular lens, 12 MP, 4mm, f/1.8, ISO-100, 1/603 sec
low-light lens, 20 MP, 4mm, f/1.8, ISO-100, 1/1032 sec
Very interesting @feklee will have to do some additional testing on that, not what you'd expect for sure.
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Unfortunately, it does not seem to be possible to disable the pixel binning. For comparison, find below details from two pictures taken with the lens manually selected. The first picture was taken with the regular lens. The second picture was taken with the low light lens. Notice that although the resolution in pixels is higher, there is less detail.
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I have the same findings, seems to be impossible to disable pixel binning, perhaps in bright light the phone will automatically toggle that off ?
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I have the same findings, seems to be impossible to disable pixel binning, perhaps in bright light the phone will automatically toggle that off ?
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That kind of doesn't make any sense Philip. The lens that does pixel binning is the low light lens only. You wouldn't use it in bright light.
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The lens that does pixel binning is the low light lens only. You wouldn't use it in bright light.
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Then they could’ve just used a 5MP sensor: There is zero advantage of using binning compared to using larger pixels.
Binning allows for faster read out speeds from a high res sensor. In cameras it often is used for video recording. For stills, of course, one wants the full resolution, even in low light.
A wild guess: The CPU in the Mi A2 is not powerful enough to quickly do demosaicing and noise reduction of a full 20MP image. Also, it is possible that the 20MP module is actually cheaper than a comparable 5MP module. Furthermore, it is possible that Xiaomi likes to use buzzwords and false advertising.
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perhaps in bright light the phone will automatically toggle that off ?
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It was in bright light. I added details on ISO and exposure to my post with the example images.
Has anyone enabled the Camera2 api for their MiA2? I read somewhere that doing that improves pictures? Not sure what to believe until I try it. Doesn't seem that it should be too difficult to do.
Can anyone confirm that doing so will of course allow installing GCam ports but improve quality of oem camera app?
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Has anyone enabled the Camera2 api for their MiA2? I read somewhere that doing that improves pictures? Not sure what to believe until I try it. Doesn't seem that it should be too difficult to do.
Can anyone confirm that doing so will of course allow installing GCam ports but improve quality of oem camera app?
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It does, just check the thread in apps and theme section, there is samples
Thanks @dodjob I've read that thread, numerous times. Has a lot of great info for sure. One thing that isn't clear, is there a way to enable the cam2 api and then uninstall magisk and unroot? And have the cam2api remain persistent?
Read something to that effect in one of the MiA1 threads, but there weren't too many posts about it. Maybe just wait until Xiaomi updates it, assuming they ever will? I've had GCam ports on other phones, always an improvement.
Getting a 'true' bokeh effect vs a 'software' created one.
Because the Mi A2 has such a wide aperture lens, it's easy to get the bokeh (narrow depth-of-field) effect. It seems Google introduced the 'software' created one to compete with other mfg's that were using dual lenses to accomplish the effect.
But the natural one just can't be beat, the following photo's are (I hope) good examples:
This first one is a "portrait" shot, which is suppose to be used for bokeh effect: exposure values are 1/30sec, f1.7, iso400
The second one is a normal 'photo' shot with values 1/24sec, f1.7, iso400
The third one is another portrait shot, just double checking the first one really, values 1/24sec, f1.7, iso400
This last one, I think, has the best detail of them all, AND thus the best bokeh effect. It was taken with the 'low light' lens manually selected, all other settings left at 'Auto'. The values are: 1/24sec, f1.7, iso400
So, what are we looking for in the pictures? Look carefully at the 'fuzz' around the sock (that's why it was chosen), it's those fine fibers that 'give away' if the picture has a 'natural' bokeh effect or a 'software' created one. The software basically 'draws and outline' around what's in the foreground, and then puts what not in the foreground 'out of focus'. The results with something like fibers, or hairs, or anything similar, is to miss out on those details.
Where the 'natural' bokeh effect has in focus whatever there is within that depth of field, no matters what it is, nor how tiny the detail, including some 'fly away' hair strand.
What's the point? I think you'll get even better bokeh effects with modes other than 'portrait', you'll even be able to do some digital zooming with the other modes. If you zoom in on the pictures, you can see the excellent job the low-light lens did. Pretty impressive.
Portrait shots are coming dull. The face has no shining. The pictures are a little dark too. Any suggestions how to fix?
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Portrait shots are coming dull. The face has no shining. The pictures are a little dark too. Any suggestions how to fix?
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I'd suggest trying another mode, such as normal photo. Is there something about portrait mode that makes you think it's better? I don't use it so I honestly don't know if there are additional capabilities or not.
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I'd suggest trying another mode, such as normal photo. Is there something about portrait mode that makes you think it's better? I don't use it so I honestly don't know if there are additional capabilities or not.
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Everything except the portraits are fine to me. Even the front portraits are beautiful. But when I'm clicking human photos using back camera the results are really poor. Whether it's a normal photo or a portrait the results are really really dull. Not expected from a 20+12 mp camera set up. The colour of the face is so low that it makes me think it is captured may be from a 5 mp old camera. I don't know what's wrong. I'm on stock android with the August security patch.
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Huawei P30 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Hi everyone. Any camera improvements over Mate 20 Pro?
No sample photo here?
It's hard to find one even in youtube since all attention goes to the Pro version...
On my Channel you can find a review (but in german)
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Hi everyone. Any camera improvements over Mate 20 Pro?
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Hi. To be honest, camera improvements over Mate 20 Pro is minimal. I own this phone right now as well as Pixel 3 XL. Previously had Mate 20 Pro for 4 month. I expected much better and more consistent shots compared to Mate 20 Pro. But it is not the case here unfortunately. Hit and miss is still the proper description of camera experience. Sure the phone is able to produce really nice photos but heaps of crappy ones popping up too (over-, underexposed, overcontrasted, out of focus...). I wish that P30 would be better than Pixel 3 XL in camera department at least and I'd finally ditch the last one.
At the same time I'd recommend P30 (non-Pro) over Mate 20 Pro due to slightly better (warm) camera tone to my test, more comfortable size, much better fingerprint scanner, flat (!) screen, better speakers (even not stereo ones), headphone jack. Wireless charging can be added for extra $50 via quite nice official Huawei wireless charging case.
P30 Lite cam test
Selfie cam quality seems a bit iffy, says 32MP but more often than not I get a worse quality image than my 8MP selfie cam on the S9 gave, similarity the 40MP setting for the rear cam I can see no difference between 10MP and 40MP, I took a photo across the room of a label on a box, zoomed in on 10MP and 40MP and they were both exactly the same as each other in terms of quality and readability, only difference I see is you lose some options with 40MP such as zoom
Focus seems fairly bad too, it borders my face to say it knows my face is there but when I check the photo it has actually focussed on something behind me or my top or something other than my face, which is slightly OOF compared
In bright sunlight the 10MP rear cam takes great pics, low light is clever but not great quality, seems like Huawei spent too much of their time adding features and gimmicks than actually making sure everything basic worked properly first
That yellowish tint is horrible. When the light is a little bit worse it appears... What is intresting - on ultra wide mode it looks much more normally, no yellow tint, colors look more realistic. My HTC 10 from 2016 do much more realistic shots and the quality is much more stable on its camera. Have you the same look on your cameras?
And imo photos are very unstable, sometimes great, sometimes sucks, low sharpness, yellow tint, candy colors, dont like it. On selfie cam at least it looks very good for me.
I don't know what's wrong with your camera. I have a HTC U11 with GCam installed, (was my previous phone) and i like to compare very often the camera side by side and for daytime they look pretty similar, sometimes i prefer the P30, sometimes U11, but on low light, there's no contest, the P30 is way ahead, as it should be. And for the consistency, we have to accept that the lack of OIS means we have to be a little more careful when we take pictures.
Hey, thanks for answer. Dont know how about u11, but i found in my HTC 10 more softness image, in p30 looks a litttle bit grainy when you zoom photo you made. Have u seen that too? Yeah, in good light the same opinion : one time htc, one time p30. But when im in the building, room etc. p30 begins to give yellow shade. Maybe ill upload some shots later to compare.
In low light sometimes shots loks unreal lighty, but sometimes camera makes perfect job
I uploaded some shots :
First are the night shots : one the most realistic regulated manualy, one in auto, one in night mode - auto and night mode looks so unreal, dont like it.
Next in room : one in auto, one on ultra wide mode which gives much more realistic colors, on auto that yellowish tint.
And shots from work one on auto which gives yellow tints, and one on 3x tele which looks much more realistic (the tiles color) than auto.
Huawei made alot of intrested things, but they didnt paid enough attention and work on main camera in my opinion.
https://ibb.co/QJ2K294 - auto, turned light down manually
https://ibb.co/xYfS0hX - night mode (wtf?)
https://ibb.co/kMmw9WP - auto (wtf?)
https://ibb.co/fGWk39t - auto (wtf?)
https://ibb.co/xXTM5GX - zoom x3
https://ibb.co/pjnXSpN - auto (wtf?)
https://ibb.co/5hVx4k1 - wide-angle
This camera seems to take better shots in monochrome than colour
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Hello. Can anybody compare P20 PRO with P30 (not pro) in camera quality? I have had P20 Pro for a moment but "hit and miss" camera quality, especially for fast moving objects (children) forced me to sell it. Now I am thinking about P30 (not pro), but if it doesn't have OIS can I expect real any improvement in camera quality?
OIS or not you won't find much if any difference with either of those, they take too much time to process the photo once u press the shutter hence the hit or miss
This is odd. My three years old HTC U11 have IMHO better photo recurrence as P20 PRO (more hits nor miss). Also less images were blurred with U11 like with P20 PRO.
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Hello. Can anybody compare P20 PRO with P30 (not pro) in camera quality? I have had P20 Pro for a moment but "hit and miss" camera quality, especially for fast moving objects (children) forced me to sell it. Now I am thinking about P30 (not pro), but if it doesn't have OIS can I expect real any improvement in camera quality?
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Not so big difference in cameras !
OIS and EIS both both work together for better image processing!
P30 screen size is perfect for me !
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Like most of you I had much bigger expectation from P30 camera, but I am totally disappointed specially when found out cannot shoot in RAW, now I wish I went with my initial guts feeling and purchased the LG
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Like most of you I had much bigger expectation from P30 camera, but I am totally disappointed specially when found out cannot shoot in RAW, now I wish I went with my initial guts feeling and purchased the LG
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witch LG?
hyewiz said:
Like most of you I had much bigger expectation from P30 camera, but I am totally disappointed specially when found out cannot shoot in RAW, now I wish I went with my initial guts feeling and purchased the LG
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You can shoot RAW photos in PRO Mode only!
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Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Huawei P30 Pro come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Here are quite a few sample photos that I have taken today with the P30 Pro. The camera is absolutely amazing.
Normal Mode (Auto):
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Mine
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it looks to me that there is a difference in colour when i shoot in 1x vs. 2x/3x/4x/5x (probably due to different f-stops of the cameras?)
I a having thr device since 1 week now and seeing the problems that should be addressed asap.
Photo quality is only good in verry low light.
Daylight ok.
Dusk is the lighting which it struggles.
I have compared this to a op6t and op6t is a lot better
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This is my first post and Icannot link external images, so you will need to add https in front of the links
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(i think with night mode)
The midtones are nowhere to be found, and the pink artifacts on the watter are awfull
This is from op6t received image via facebook (i think with night mode)
//ibb.co/y8BN3BM
ovidiubuligan said:
I a having thr device since 1 week now and seeing the problems that should be addressed asap.
Photo quality is only good in verry low light.
Daylight ok.
Dusk is the lighting which it struggles.
I have compared this to a op6t and op6t is a lot better
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This is my first post and Icannot link external images, so you will need to add https in front of the links
//ibb.co/858RyB0
(i think with night mode)
The midtones are nowhere to be found, and the pink artifacts on the watter are awfull
This is from op6t received image via facebook (i think with night mode)
//ibb.co/y8BN3BM
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Try using PRO mode first.
Also try other settings. Try night mode off as well. you really need to take the same photo with all these settings to compare.
Auto is not always the best (im a photographer and often have to go to PRO mode to NOT get a bad photo in challenging light scenarios)
here a couple form a gig i went to was quit fare back using the old firmware not the new one 124
Zoom Samples | From wideangle 0.6x to 50x digital zoom.
I made two videos to see performance in zooming. First one is made out of 12 photos of different zoom levels ( 0.6x, 1x, 2x, 3x, 4x, 5x, 7.5x, 10x, 20x, 30x, 40x, 50x) and it is made to looks fluently zooming. Second one video is for those, who want to see differences in zooming with P30 Pro and P20 Pro.
Zooming samples made into fluent video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi__GgLPWD4
P30 Pro vs P20 Pro zooming comparison
https://youtu.be/6AIQE4wkT48
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I made two videos to see performance in zooming. First one is made out of 12 photos of different zoom levels ( 0.6x, 1x, 2x, 3x, 4x, 5x, 7.5x, 10x, 20x, 30x, 40x, 50x) and it is made to looks fluently zooming. Second one video is for those, who want to see differences in zooming with P30 Pro and P20 Pro.
Zooming samples made into fluent video:
P30 Pro vs P20 Pro zooming comparison
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This is one of the best photo comparison on YT. Thx a lot bro i hooe you weill make with P30 Pro vs S10+ and P30 Pro Vs Mate 20 Pro.
And very weird thing, P30 Pro is bad at x3 and 4x zoom and P20 Pro is much more better. Why? Will this be fixed in future updates?
I know the P20 Pro have optical zoom up to x3 zoom but P30 Pro have uo to 5x. :/
Bugs on v124 with p30 Pro vlog09:
- When in Pro mode, you have to tap for exposure before the Wide/1x/5x zoom on screen toggle appears.
- Wide in Pro mode has extremely aggressive noise reduction and over sharpening which makes the photos look rubbish. Compare to Wide in Photo mode which are less like a watercolour image. Wide in Photo mode is excellent.
- Photo mode doesn't let you change to Wide/1x/5x when the main camera resolution is 40mp instead of 10mp which is silly. It should let you change anytime. However, you can work around this by changing to Wide in Pro then back to Photo, and it will stay Wide. It will keep it at 20mp for wide too. This trick doesn't work for 5x zoom unfortunately.
Not bugs but observations:
The raw files for the 40mp main sensor have tremendous latitude and dynamic range. You can pull back highlights like nothing else. I'm used to shooting on full frame cameras (5d, 5dmk2, 6d) and m43 for context, and this has me impressed. There's not much noise, and the noise I see is quite pleasant, like a Samsung isocell sensor where it is a nice texture rather than distracting.
However the white balance is completely screwed on the 40mp raws. The balance is different from the centre to the edges so near impossible to get right in Lightroom. There's some weird green tint going on with shadows, and it's very difficult to get a warm yellow hue to an image (think: golden dusk sunlight reflecting off an old white painted villa) without it turning either sickly green or magenta.
And if you do get the white balance how you like it, too bad, the edges will now be green or magenta because of the aforementioned colour shift between centre and edges.
Note, the jpgs are fine, so Huawei are doing some serious processing to fix that up. Also saying that so you don't think my p30 Pro is bung, if that was true, then the jpgs would also be out of whack but they're spot on.
It'd be nice if Adobe figured out a calibration/process profile that fixed this up.
The raw files for the wide sensor have a huge amount of vignetting. Easy to fix however. The raw files have much richer greens in particular than the jpgs. Sharpness is very good. This sensor is a bit noisier than the 40mp one, but still really impressive. No white or colour balance issues.
The raw files for the 5x sensor barely need adjusting. There's some pincushion to tweak and a bit of contrast to add but that's it. Sharpness is impressive. Again white balance is fine.
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50x zoom
Also 50x zoom
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And very weird thing, P30 Pro is bad at x3 and 4x zoom and P20 Pro is much more better. Why? Will this be fixed in future updates?
I know the P20 Pro have optical zoom up to x3 zoom but P30 Pro have uo to 5x. :/
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The primary camera is used for up to 2x zoom, and the tele-camera for 5x and longer. For intermediate zoom factors, the P30 Pro combines image data from both cameras.
https://www.dxomark.com/huawei-p30-pro-camera-review/
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The primary camera is used for up to 2x zoom, and the tele-camera for 5x and longer. For intermediate zoom factors, the P30 Pro combines image data from both cameras.
https://www.dxomark.com/huawei-p30-pro-camera-review/
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That is good and bad thing. So if I want to make portrait mode x3 or x4 the photo will be bad quality
Can we see night mode on front camera in the future updates ? İ have both pixel 3 xl and p30 pro , i need to sell one of these , if i sell pixel 3 xl i am gonna miss night sight on front camera.
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Can we see night mode on front camera in the future updates ? İ have both pixel 3 xl and p30 pro , i need to sell one of these , if i sell pixel 3 xl i am gonna miss night sight on front camera.
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No
Am using AI-OFF mode only due to the very naturally looking not artificially saturated greens, reds and blues.
AI-OFF is more Fuji/Canon like colorwise. More true to life compared to the popping photos AIs or Samsungs scene enhancer usually produce.
In reviews it seems that 99% of us have already been brainwashed/conditioned over the years thinking non-popping colors = bad photo.
The real world is not as colorful as it is being presented on photos all over the internet .
what is best mode for good pictures? 40mpix or 10mpix?
10
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what is best mode for good pictures? 40mpix or 10mpix?
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If you switch to 40mpix you lose out on Huawei's AI processing which is way better than it was on the P20 Pro. I'm getting better photos leaving the setting on 10. I used to get fluorescent green grass all the time on the P20. They've come a long way in a very short time.
The Zoom is amazing!
Normal, 5X & 10X. This is hands down the best camera on a smartphone right now.
Hi. I've just get the unit today. It was exynos and I find out the camera was truly bad at dim condition. Even when comparing s20 ultra to note 9, the note 9 picture was much better. I have update my s20 ultra firmware to the latest from Samsung.
Look at the face. The s20 ultra result was having what looks like compression artifact. But it's right out of the camera without any editing. This only happen in dim condition. And also this happens to face only since other than face there's no artifact at all.
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well for one thing it's blurry from the head moving. Second i agree it looks like $hit (no offense to your baby!)
I have no advice other than to say it's unbelievable we could pay $1400 for such an unfinished product..steadily I am losing more and more faith in samsung. At least you were able to get the camera to focus!
We all have similar issues and I think that all of us waiting for the next SW update are customers with a lot of faith. At least Samsung admitted it and if they cannot fix it with the next update then probably most of the phones will be returned.
did you know the 108 megapixel is not on by default? youll have to change the aspect ratio and before you take a picture it should show from the settings which megapixel you are using.
Same. It's very blurry / grainy (yet unnecessarily oversharpened) at the same time in low indoor lighting.
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At least Samsung admitted it and if they cannot fix it with the next update then probably most of the phones will be returned.
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Can you link me?
xnostra said:
did you know the 108 megapixel is not on by default? youll have to change the aspect ratio and before you take a picture it should show from the settings which megapixel you are using.
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What? The post has nothing to do with (and no mention of) the 108mp mode.
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Can you link me?
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They didn't admit anything. It was I think a Twitter post that said something like "Samsung is committed to delivering the best experience for their customers, blah blah blah constantly working to improve experiences for everyone."
It was generic like that
There was an answer to The Verge that they will work on to deliver the best camera experience. Yes it was generic but camera oriented and it is good that they responded.
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did you know the 108 megapixel is not on by default? youll have to change the aspect ratio and before you take a picture it should show from the settings which megapixel you are using.
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I'm not talking about the 108mpx. Also the 108mpx didn't help with the pict quality.
For now the only solution is to use pro mode.
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I'm not talking about the 108mpx. Also the 108mpx didn't help with the pict quality.
For now the only solution is to use pro mode.
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Have you turned off bixby scene optimizer? Watched a YT video earlier that claimed turning it off gets rid of the awful skin smoothing effects.
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Have you turned off bixby scene optimizer? Watched a YT video earlier that claimed turning it off gets rid of the awful skin smoothing effects.
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Yes I've try it. No luck at all. The skin smoothing still happening
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Yes I've try it. No luck at all. The skin smoothing still happening
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I did a pic of myself after the ATBM update and my skin colour was the same as when I turned my head 90 degrees to the side. There was also no smoothing and I could see my pores and other natural stuff
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I did a pic of myself after the ATBM update and my skin colour was the same as when I turned my head 90 degrees to the side. There was also no smoothing and I could see my pores and other natural stuff
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Did you use your selfie or the main sensor?
If you are using main sensor, could you try using auto mode and Pro mode and share the result to here? Also cna you snap your picture in dim area, since I notice the processing occurred in a dim area was more aggressive than on a bright area.
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Did you use your selfie or the main sensor?
If you are using main sensor, could you try using auto mode and Pro mode and share the result to here? Also cna you snap your picture in dim area, since I notice the processing occurred in a dim area was more aggressive than on a bright area.
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I have used the main sensor and it was at work during day time with not bad light conditions. I will give it a try in light dimmed area and give you feedback.
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I have used the main sensor and it was at work during day time with not bad light conditions. I will give it a try in light dimmed area and give you feedback.
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Thanks. And also try move your head slightly when you snap the photo. I'm interested on the result.
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Thanks. And also try move your head slightly when you snap the photo. I'm interested on the result.
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This. I noticed in your first picture the hair on your child's head is blurry. I have a feeling what happened is there was motion in the photo and in trying to fix the motion created all of the weird artifact effect. you'll notice the hair from your note 9 photo is sharp and clear, likely because there was no motion while the photo was taken.
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This. I noticed in your first picture the hair on your child's head is blurry. I have a feeling what happened is there was motion in the photo and in trying to fix the motion created all of the weird artifact effect. you'll notice the hair from your note 9 photo is sharp and clear, likely because there was no motion while the photo was taken.
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The movement was indeed making the artifact worsen. But it also happen in no movement condition.
S20 ultra bad image processing
In this pict, the baby wasn't moving much (minimal movement) .
Movement make it worse.
This picture was in very bright room, the child wasn't moving and the artefact still happening, and take a look at the woman on the background. The artefact was really annoying
Yes I agree. I just took a photo of the news on TV and the anchors faces look like oil painting. How could Samsung have screwed up this badly...it's really unbelievable. And how more people aren't making afuss, I also don't understand.
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Yes I agree. I just took a photo of the news on TV and the anchors faces look like oil painting. How could Samsung have screwed up this badly...it's really unbelievable. And how more people aren't making afuss, I also don't understand.
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Yeah, I don't know what's going with the silence.
For now I'm using the pro mode with all settings set to auto. This way the picture processing won't happen and the picture was very good.
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The movement was indeed making the artifact worsen. But it also happen in no movement condition.
S20 ultra bad image processing
In this pict, the baby wasn't moving much (minimal movement) .
Movement make it worse.
This picture was in very bright room, the child wasn't moving and the artefact still happening, and take a look at the woman on the background. The artefact was really annoying
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It seems that the artifacts come from very bad hdr stitching. Try to take some photos with scene optimiser and hdr off, although it would probably make very little difference. The reason some other phones like pixel and iPhone cand take better shots of moving subjects is because they use something called zero shutter combined with a faster shutter. It means that the phone takes a lot of pictures before the picture is taken. Now, Samsung also uses a buffer since s9 with dedicated dram for the camera but probably is much lower and their hdr stiching is not as smart as Google's for example (accounting for movement in the frame). After all this time you'd think Samsung would figure this out but not many companies do this sadly). Also the big sensor that gathers more light should allow the phone to use faster shutter and bigger iso without introducing much more noise ala huwei.