Helo guys em new to this community...yeasterday i got my LG G6 ( India) ever since i took it out of the box everything was fine except the camera...The pictures seems soo grainy & full of noise...Even in the indoor lighting conditions...I was in the impression that LG g6 camera is one of the best.But my front cam tooks pictures even worst than a VGA camera phone . I havnt got any update since yesterday my software details are as follow: Android version 7.0....Build Num NRD90U....Software version V10K-IND-XX
Please suggest a fix if anybody knows...
Try the google camera and post some pics from your g6
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/google-camera-hdr-ported-g6-t3655374
Ajayrokr said:
Helo guys em new to this community...yeasterday i got my LG G6 ( India) ever since i took it out of the box everything was fine except the camera...The pictures seems soo grainy & full of noise...Even in the indoor lighting conditions...I was in the impression that LG g6 camera is one of the best.But my front cam tooks pictures even worst than a VGA camera phone . I havnt got any update since yesterday my software details are as follow: Android version 7.0....Build Num NRD90U....Software version V10K-IND-XX
Please suggest a fix if anybody knows...
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Try outdoor first to evaluate the camera quality with good lighting.
Indoor is subjective. Were you using a flash? What types of light, florescent, incandescent or LED?
Ajayrokr said:
Helo guys em new to this community...yeasterday i got my LG G6 ( India) ever since i took it out of the box everything was fine except the camera...The pictures seems soo grainy & full of noise...Even in the indoor lighting conditions...I was in the impression that LG g6 camera is one of the best.But my front cam tooks pictures even worst than a VGA camera phone . I havnt got any update since yesterday my software details are as follow: Android version 7.0....Build Num NRD90U....Software version V10K-IND-XX
Please suggest a fix if anybody knows...
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Were you trying with wide Angle? Because, wide angle sometimes get grainy..
Check camera settings they are set for lower resolutions from factory
Hello, i've got same trouble. Selfies in low light (even some front picture) looks like "aquarel" filter...
Im french and have a LG H870
Thanks
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I feel the same
got mine last week and i cannot make a decent shot with auto, even my old Iphone6 is more capable of making a good shot.
Indoors is terrible, like a oil painting and most of the time not sharp.
I dont get it, did i got a Lemon? I will try some time but if this is not getting better i will send it back. Besides that i like the phone, feels good but i will not have a phone where the camera sucks / the automode sucks. Which is the same for me, because i just want to snap pics and not work on dials (for this i have my dslr) . And coming from a Sony z3c, which also was a fine phone except the camera, the iphone is just meant as a substitute, i dont see the point in keeping that thing.
Aye, aye aye, at least the good thing is that it was not that expensive
Low light photos on the G6 are poor. Nothing wrong with your phone, its just the sensor that was used. Gcam doesn't really help, IMHO. Don't try to zoom in too much and you won't notice the noise in the photo too much.
I also notice that the G6 camera is not that thing there, but I noticed that when taking a photo with the phone as still as possible they are better. My problem is the videos that are shaking a lot, especially at night.
Well this is something I haven't seen on smartphone photos yet. This is low light photo and I tried to keep phone as steady as possible. So there is quite nice details on the background, but very, very heavy processing in the area that contain movement. Is it the sensor or camera app itself that does this? It is like only certain areas of the photo are processed more than the rest.
I have almost same problem, with the main/frontal camera on LG G6 (LS 993) Sprint.
All execpt the camera working good.
I'm looking on my photo and i want to cry.
First of all i have tried to use my standard camera, then i used google cam and other soft - no result.
Maybe some1 knows how to fix this problem. brgds
You are encountering the limits of a cellphone camera. Very low light, combined with a small sensor, high ISO and low shutter speed=crappy photo. You can't defeat the laws of optics. In the lighting conditions of the photo in the snow, you would have to have a good SLR camera to capture action shots with any clarity.
Indeed.
Also be aware that of the 3 G6 cameras, only the rear standard one is even remotely capable of acceptable image quality in low light.
The ultra-wide is slow (f/2.4), unstabilized, and on some devices downright broken.
Front cam is simply not very good.
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You are encountering the limits of a cellphone camera. Very low light, combined with a small sensor, high ISO and low shutter speed=crappy photo. You can't defeat the laws of optics. In the lighting conditions of the photo in the snow, you would have to have a good SLR camera to capture action shots with any clarity.
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I know the limits of smartphone camera. But the interesting thing in my sample photo is that there is jpeg processing in only PARTS of the image. There is quite good amount of details in those parts which did not have any movement (by the object and by the device).
Yes I see what you mean. The processing artifacts seem to be concentrated on the edges of the figure. My guess is that the software is detecting the blurry edges and attempting to "sharpen", unsuccessfully.
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I know the limits of smartphone camera. But the interesting thing in my sample photo is that there is jpeg processing in only PARTS of the image. There is quite good amount of details in those parts which did not have any movement (by the object and by the device).
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About the front camera "issues":
if your selfies look like this:
- that's normal. my camera does the same thing (in all camera apps), I really have to edit the sh*t out of them in Photoshop to get acceptable results
I saw someone calling it an aquamarell effect and yup, that's exactly it
Really don't know what the hell is the issue with that sensor, I didn't think that 5mp pics would ever look that blurry lol
I was wondering about the camera quality right when I read that the sensor's pixel size is merely 1.12 µm, which is actually the lowest I ever saw in a mid-range to high-end phone. The standard is 1.4 µm, my 2 years old Nexus 5X even has 1.55 µm, which easily compensates for the smaller aperture of f/2.0 compared to f/1.8 in the L6.
The bigger the pixels on the sensor, the more light information (e.g. brightness, colors) they can capture. That's also the reason why it's better to have less pixels in total (e.g. 12 MP instead of 16 MP), giving each single pixel more space to capture light, especially on such small sensors.
So the low-light performance of this camera comes as no suprise to me.
This actually kept my from buying the L6, which I otherwise liked when I held it in my hands.
From my experience the pictures are ok/good, but the video done indoor is really poor, I have a strange feeling, that my old G2 made better videos....
@simeoni,
about your low light photo. It is possible that the smudged area around the moving object is because the phone camera is taking more than one image similar to the hdr process so it can eliminate the noise, it is possible that this is the hdr itself if it is turned on. This is because the area around the moving object as well as the object itself has less info recorded for the same pixels from the image (as it was shot in one image not few like usually the hdr or low light noise reduction images are done for good quality) and thats why is not looking that sharp.
Sorry my english is not native and i am not sure if i explained it good enough. For reference check how HDR and/or image stacking noice reduction work.
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I compare samsung note 4 photo vs lg g6 and I can say.... note 4 win in all ways in photo quality. Ofc dont have ultra wide buuut? Collor , sharpness, noise ? Note 4 win. I own lg g6+ h870dsu
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I've found the LED flash to be basically useless for taking pictures. Everytime I try to use it in a dark environment, the shutter speeds are too slow and the picture is both horribly overexposed and there is motion blur as well.
I understand there is no pre-flash firing to lock focus, but the camera should be smart enough to bump up shutter speed to actually take a usable picture in the dark with flash.
Does everyone's camera do this?
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I've found the LED flash to be basically useless for taking pictures. Everytime I try to use it in a dark environment, the shutter speeds are too slow and the picture is both horribly overexposed and there is motion blur as well.
I understand there is no pre-flash firing to lock focus, but the camera should be smart enough to bump up shutter speed to actually take a usable picture in the dark with flash.
Does everyone's camera do this?
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Mine takes awesome pictures, even in complete darkness.
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I've found the LED flash to be basically useless for taking pictures. Everytime I try to use it in a dark environment, the shutter speeds are too slow and the picture is both horribly overexposed and there is motion blur as well.
I understand there is no pre-flash firing to lock focus, but the camera should be smart enough to bump up shutter speed to actually take a usable picture in the dark with flash.
Does everyone's camera do this?
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Camera works great, it's no DSLR but it's just as good or better than any point and shoot i've ever owned. As far as the flash goes only time pictures are overexposed is when you are too close and try and use the flash. Cameras can't work miracles. If it's too dark for you to see your subject then it's too dark for the camera to see it as well and the pictures will look bad on any camera. As long as the lighting is reasonable the pictures come out great.
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Mine takes awesome pictures, even in complete darkness.
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might be a problem with the OPs flash
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I understand there is no pre-flash
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If you use a led widget, it will stay on before, during, and after the shot but it is not as bright as the camera flash brightness.
supdawg said:
I've found the LED flash to be basically useless for taking pictures. Everytime I try to use it in a dark environment, the shutter speeds are too slow and the picture is both horribly overexposed and there is motion blur as well.
I understand there is no pre-flash firing to lock focus, but the camera should be smart enough to bump up shutter speed to actually take a usable picture in the dark with flash.
Does everyone's camera do this?
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Mine seems to work ok it can actually take a decent picture in complete darkness
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Jykinturah said:
Mine takes awesome pictures, even in complete darkness.
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Mine seems to work ok it can actually take a decent picture in complete darkness
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what are your settings cause mine look crappy as well? met my favorite band and took pics and they all came out crappy.. luckly i had my canon camera as a backup but after one picture the bastard died.. if my phone was taking nice pics i could have had a collection of awesome memories
This is a typical picture taken with my camera in very low lighting with flash.
As you can see the picture is horribly overexposed. All I did was take the raw file an upload to imageshack with a slight crop.
Is this typical? Or do I have a defective camera? Camera takes good pictures in good light, but flash pictures are terrible.
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http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6331/imag0052ou.jpg
Its a flashlight... Duh
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This is a typical picture taken with my camera in very low lighting with flash.
As you can see the picture is horribly overexposed. All I did was take the raw file an upload to imageshack with a slight crop.
Is this typical? Or do I have a defective camera? Camera takes good pictures in good light, but flash pictures are terrible.
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Lower the brightness when you take pictures that close with the flash. It will help a LOT.
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Lower the brightness when you take pictures that close with the flash. It will help a LOT.
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Thanks for the tip. I tried to recreate the picture at -2 & -3 exposures.
-2
-3
While lowering the exposure helps a bit, the pictures still look extremely soft to me (looks like the shutter speed was too low/motion blur).
I understand this phone won't produce DSLR quality pictures (I own a Canon 450D for that). However, I would like to get usable pictures with flash. To me, even at -3 exposure, these pictures are pretty bad.
Subject was about 4-5 feet away.
TIA
i think it's because the camera doesn't pre-light and focus before hitting the shutter, it just "focuses" in complete darkness then lights up the flash and takes the picture with an out of focus subject. Best way is to use a flashlight app to light it up, focus, then turn off the flashlight and take the pic
It's better than not having flash and not many companies are willing to go to the added expense (as well as sacrifice more space) of a xenon flash.
Just wanted to know if this was typical? Can someone post a pic of a person using flash in low light with flash?
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I took some pictures at night during the Fourth of July and the daytime pictures came out much better than my 10.1MP point and shoot, the camera is also about 5X faster, so I didn't miss nearly as many shots as my GF using my P&S.
Night time pictures on both cameras were also mediocre. Like someone here already said, if you can't see the person very well in low light, then the camera won't either. As soon as the flash goes off it flushes the area with light. Honestly, I think you are expecting a little much from a cellphone camera. Compared to every other camera I have owned (not owned a DSLR) this camera trumps both phones and P&S cameras.
Good luck, but I think your comparing apples and oranges seeing as you own a DSLR. Most phones don't even have a flash.
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I took some pictures at night during the Fourth of July and the daytime pictures came out much better than my 10.1MP point and shoot, the camera is also about 5X faster, so I didn't miss nearly as many shots as my GF using my P&S.
Night time pictures on both cameras were also mediocre. Like someone here already said, if you can't see the person very well in low light, then the camera won't either. As soon as the flash goes off it flushes the area with light. Honestly, I think you are expecting a little much from a cellphone camera. Compared to every other camera I have owned (not owned a DSLR) this camera trumps both phones and P&S cameras.
Good luck, but I think your comparing apples and oranges seeing as you own a DSLR. Most phones don't even have a flash.
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That's a fair assessment. I just thought that this camera could do what every point and shoot camera I've owned for the past 10 years could do. Take a sharp picture in a dark environment using flash.
And I've owned a phone with a flash before (Touch Pro). I cannot remember if it exhibited the same behavior, though.
I just don't think it's too much to ask for a camera to expose properly and give sufficient shutter speed to take sharp pictures while using the flash. I love having the LED's for flashlight purposes, I simply question it's functionality/usability as a part of the camera.
I am not talking about physical limitations of the sensor. The sensor is capable of doing it, but it just needs to be improved software wise by HTC. I understand there will be noise and grain in this type of sensor. I just want sharp photos that don't have all of their highlights blown all to hell on 0 EV compensation.
The exposure compensation setting at -3 to take is a real PITA considering its just not FEV, so I imagine even daytime shots would come out underexposed if you forget to switch back.
I just hope HTC does something to improve this camera/video camera. It's too nice of hardware for it to under perform the way it does.
Jykinturah said:
Mine takes awesome pictures, even in complete darkness.
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Can you post a picture of someone taken about 5 feet away using flash in a dark environment? If you dont feel comfortable doing that on the forum, you could PM me.
I could look at your picture to see if it has the same problems as mine does.
easy fix take it. back and a ip4 it has a "better camera".
my camera takes great pics in the dark
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Sporkman said:
easy fix take it. back and a ip4 it has a "better camera".
my camera takes great pics in the dark
sent with my evo from a secret place
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Care to share any?
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Care to share any?
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To answer your question, yes these are typical results for a photo taken in complete darkness. The Evo, while pretty good for a cell phone camera, is comparable in quality to a cheap P&S camera (to me it looks slightly better than my wife's old Canon A430, but noticeably worse than my Canon SX100). There's nothing wrong with your phone.
I've got sgs around month ago and already tried many kernels and firmwares but neither of those deal with photo camera shots quality issues. Let me explain - I had Huawei u8220 before and the camera photo shots where nearly perfect, when I get to computer I will try to upload a couple of pictures to see. Now with this high end super phone I get photos of the same quality as my wife's simple nokia but 5mp instead... I wonder if this is hardware of software fault, and if it is software, maybe there is better app available for camera?
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The SGS's camera is not the best in the world, but I've been able to make fairly good shots with it. But in the end; just with all phone cameras, it's a tiny sensor with lousy optics. Just use it for what it is for and only use it under the right circumstances (enough light, little movement) and you should be oke.
I don't understand alot of the negative opinons about the sgs camera, it seems perfect for a phone camera, better than all those htc ones and my old nokia n95 one by far, which is all I could really ask for.
don't know what you talking about really.
SGS has a great camera.
Compare the pictures taken by sgs on other websites with yours and see any diffference.
Check setting and camera lens.
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don't know what you talking about really.
SGS has a great camera.
Compare the pictures taken by sgs on other websites with yours and see any diffference.
Check setting and camera lens.
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I have compared pictures before I purchased sgs and I saw that they are way worth than those from huawei but I thought that is because of taking picture conditions, besides I liked to have this phone,i still do, but here are two shots one from huawei and one from sgs,i didn't pick the best, just random.
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The photo compression on the SGS is bad. It would be great if somebody fixedthat and the crappy filters on the video.
if that sgs camera sample is actually indicative of all the pics you take then there is something seriously wrong with your camera, I've never taken a pic that bad. Maybe you're picture quality is on normal, not super fine and its on a low res?
go to camera then go to settings. try to change the resolution from 600x480(not exact) to 2500x1900(not exact) or something like that. I think its a bug cause when i put mine to 2000x1900 it magically changes back to 800x600. just check if you are really using the full 5m.
i also checked the one you uploaded and its just 600x480. may you are just using .3m
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go to camera then go to settings. try to change the resolution from 600x480(not exact) to 2500x1900(not exact) or something like that. I think its a bug cause when i put mine to 2000x1900 it magically changes back to 800x600. just check if you are really using the full 5m.
i also checked the one you uploaded and its just 600x480. may you are just using .3m
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the resolution was 2048x1536 and quality superfine why the image got smaller on the post? I dont know, will try to to find shots in approximately same condition. The size of Huawei's 3mp photo is slightly bugger than the SGSs 5mp. By the way, Huawei's camera was set on NORMAL image quality here (fine one would add some strange artefacts so, I never used it)
Huawei u8220:
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For me, the Camera on the Outside has a great Quality while the Front Facing camera Picture is useless because its blurry as hell. Like theres extreme Bloom is turned on.
I didnt find any options to change anything on the Frontcam.
Do you have the same prob?
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the resolution was 2048x1536 and quality superfine why the image got smaller on the post? I dont know, will try to to find shots in approximately same condition. The size of Huawei's 3mp photo is slightly bugger than the SGSs 5mp. By the way, Huawei's camera was set on NORMAL image quality here (fine one would add some strange artefacts so, I never used it)
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So what are you complaining about. You do not use SGS best quality but use the best quality of the Huwaei. The SGS is still much better if you compare. Both cameras is set to 3mp still the SGS is both sharper (you used the same number of pixel and they should be equal), have correct color, better contrast etc than the Huawie and still it is only roughly the half potential of the SGS (5mp versus 3mp). Strange thread the title should be why does my Huawei take so crapy pictures.
I think the problem is that you seem to prefer saturated pictures, the only problem is that the SGS camera looks 'dull' in comparison? Go fiddle with the settings?
Also, do you still have your huawei? Why don't you take pictures of the same subject matter to compare, instead of taking entirely different types of photos?
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So what are you complaining about. You do not use SGS best quality but use the best quality of the Huwaei. The SGS is still much better if you compare. Both cameras is set to 3mp still the SGS is both sharper (you used the same number of pixel and they should be equal), have correct color, better contrast etc than the Huawie and still it is only roughly the half potential of the SGS (5mp versus 3mp). Strange thread the title should be why does my Huawei take so crapy pictures.
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Both cameras on last uploaded photos are set to 3 mp, it's max for huawei, but the quality setting for huawei was set to normal and for sgs superfine
To me huawei pics look sharper and sgs ones are dull,
Yes I should experiment with settings of sgs camera and yes,i need to charge huawei and make a few pics of the same object, will be back with results tomorrow after charge.
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Ok I figured some options to make photos look better, and even better than huawei - settings-> adjust->+2 on contrast and sharpness and quality photos are there, however,i have to set this option ecru time I start camera, those are not saved for some reason, maybe there are some tricks on how to save options in camera?
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i wish i still had the shots i took with my first SGS. they were great! I'd have used them to populate this site
http://litlclic.com
(ok, little plug there)
it's still in the works ...
the SGS is a great little camera/phone! as someone above mentioned, of course it isnt as good as a camera, but take it for what it is and you can get some great shots!
this guide will help too
http://litlclic.com/guides/take-better-pics
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Ok I figured some options to make photos look better, and even better than huawei - settings-> adjust->+2 on contrast and sharpness and quality photos are there, however,i have to set this option ecru time I start camera, those are not saved for some reason, maybe there are some tricks on how to save options in camera?
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You know you can touch to zoom on specific ellements right?
Also, the different modes (click SCN) will make a big difference.
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You know you can touch to zoom on specific ellements right?
Also, the different modes (click SCN) will make a big difference.
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Touching doesn't zoom, but adjusts the focus.
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Touching doesn't zoom, but adjusts the focus.
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yep, my bad!
I meant Touch to focus
I've found that using Vignette, the SGS camera takes better photos.
Always remember, it's not the camera that makes a photographer, especially if you've comparing smartphone cameras. If we were talking about various prime lenses and the like, then it's a lot more serious.
Also, factor in that almost all photos nowadays go through post-processing if you want it to look good. I personally feel that there is nothing wrong with that, if one is just to touch up the photo.
Hence my inclination towards programs like Vignette, which do a lot of the post-processing effects that I like, all within the camera. Excellent feature of Vignette is that it can save both original JPEG (which considerably looks better than the default camera), and the edited JPEG.
Here are some random photos taken using Vignette:
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I am in no way affiliated with the makers of the program, nor am I being paid to this. These are all my side on things. I hope it was informative.
Im also using vignette and noticed that right before the photo is taken when the app is trying to focus theres a split second that you will see the images that are very very sharp and great quality, after the photo is snapped it looks dull.
Let's gather our photo examples with m9+ camera. Go into detail which base it was shot on which photo app.
Discuss tricks and tips if any occurs to your mind.
In my opinion the m9+ camera comes short on the Auto focus speed part, and also keeping focus in low light conditions faces some problems resulting in some often blurriness (I'm sure we all know that hTC needs to improve with the camera part in general, I loved how snappy M7's camera was, but M9+ and as I've heard M9's camera is not as snappy as predecessors were and top notch competitors like LG G3 laser focus is).
While outside, in day light, the pictures are generally very good (but that's expected, and luckily m9+ camera meets the expectation IMHO). But let's discuss this further, opinions matter.
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The camera is terrible.
I loved the M7's camera, and my wife's M8 takes very good looking pictures ans well despite the low resolution.
Unfortunately the M9+'s camera is terrible. Can't take any good indoors pictures of my daughter anymore.
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The camera is terrible.
I loved the M7's camera, and my wife's M8 takes very good looking pictures ans well despite the low resolution.
Unfortunately the M9+'s camera is terrible. Can't take any good indoors pictures of my daughter anymore.
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Yeah, indoor is very hard to handle, I need to try 2-4 times to get one good, and mostly with flash, no other way.
On the other side, outdoor images are really nice compared to m7 (i had m7 before too). So there's a down and an up-side. Unfortunately it'd be possible to create a camera that's good inside as well, looking at LG G3's photos by my friend, I'm saying, wow, that's good and without flash...
HDR / without HDR with stock camera on 1.61 European base. If your hand is shaky you can get some blur with HDR. I like the result image's details and range, but it doesn't work too well for stitching the different dynamics images into a solid exact match. Hopefully this can get better with software updates.
Without HDR
HDR
Some macro shots.
And a bit of experience: I'm starting to be content with the device's camera. I've put the ISO cap to 200 and varied with Sharpness a bit, and starting to get good results inside with flash. I could shoot some very nice interior low light photos with the flash, and also there's a huge difference in selfies with the ultrapixel in dusk/dark. M9+ and M9 might seem like a camera underdog, but i'm starting to get the hang of it and it gives better results with some care. Also now lowered the Make up level of the photo postprocess to 0 and it's now super fast to snap photos, i wasn't sure what Make up level was for, now I see that I can speed up the snapping by lowering it, and not too much difference in the resulting images.
Some, imho quite good close-ups. (Good light conditions but not too direct light on the first image, and the second one before sunset.) I'm pleased
So my verdict is: while focusing is not the greatest, you can adjust a few things to make taking pictures snappier and better (Make up level to 0, and cap ISO to 200 for normal day time photos, and vary with sharpness to your taste)
Thanks, will give it a try
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This is what I took last evening using the Snapchat app.
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Some more close ups. I'm still pleased with outdoors capturing. Not the best I've seen in average, but some images are really showing off the 20 Megapixel goodness.
Some HD video:
https://goo.gl/photos/5KnS6ZLk4ivjWJjWA
The camera performance at very low light is surprisingly poor, though increasing shutter speeds to about 1/2 second can give good results for inanimate objects. I've tried one in ultra low light, and wasn't unhappy with the results. Indoor photos aren't bad, try capping the iso to 200. Outdoor close ups and macros are BEAUTIFUL. The camera locks focus fast and very well. I guess over time the improvements that the M9 has got will make their way here as well.
NOTE: THE LAST-BUT-ONE IMAGE WAS TAKEN UNDER REALLY LOW LIGHT, SEE THE LAST IMAGE FOR THE BACKGROUND.
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I recently bought my M9+ and comparing it with my M8, here is my quick verdict (note that this is for AUTO MODE):
1. Better photos captured in daylight. Better coz it's of higher res but i prefer the "quality" of photos on my m8. M8 photos are more vivid, deeper contrast and sharper in AUTO mode.
The m9+ seems to have softer images and sometimes look dull.
2. Auto focus is about the same BUT the saving time is Soooo slowww on the m9+! Is it because the photos are larger? I dont know.
3. Shaky hands (even just a little bit) is a big NO if you use the m9+. What's happening HTC!? The m7 and m8 can handle minimum to moderate hand shakes but this!!!! @(%[email protected]$
This should've been mitigated if they have included OIS. I'm wondering who is doing all the decisions for their hardware.
4. Forget about lowlight unless you are a fan of using led flash. To be fair, the m9+ takes good photos with no flash bleed. I'm not sure why on some review websites, the photos tend to be overexposed. This is NOT the case in real life.
5. Video stabilization is not good at all. Well, everybody knows that by now. However, i don't think the m8 has GREAT video stabilizer. I also had moto X 2014 and xperia z3 compact and there is no way HTC can beat them in video.
However, the rear ultrapixel cam in the m8 is GREAT in lowlight. So what is left with the m9+. Lol.
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Selfie camera. Here is where the m9+ shines the most.
1. The front ultrapixel camera ie AWESOME. hands down on this. It beats the m8's front cam 100% of the time.
2. However, the field of view on the m9+ is narrower than the m8. I am a fan of grp shots and now some of my friends are getting cut of. We have to compress just so everyone can fit in. The m8 has a very wide angle lens.. even the galaxy s6. Dont get me wrong, the front cam of the m9+ is also wide but i expected it to be the same as the m8. Note that the m8 has THE widest front cam lens than any other phone out there.
Low light capture might improve, if the updates given to the M9 find their way to our phones as well. I personally am fine with the colors- this camera's colour reproduction is fine.
Capture and save time isn't long... in fact I was surprised by its speed. It may be because I shoot in 10:7 medium res.
I must add that shots in 10:7 are way better than those in 16:9 because the camera's native resolution is 10:7.
And yeah image stabilization on this phone sucks.
P.S : I don't seem to have focusing problems in most situations unlike the others out here. Focus is fast and clean.
Another shot I got:
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I took this last evening at dusk.
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The images you post guys look fantastic. Since using this new phone, I've gone back and compared photos with my old m7 gallery and OPO. I even compared to LG g3 photos with the fantastic laser focus. And that m7 or m8 is better might be true for some cases, like how snappy it worked on those m7s and m8s, but I'm just blown away by the color precision of m9+. In auto mode they look exactly like in real life, no over saturation, which I find a bad thing on cameras... on m7 I had all kinds of artifacts and auras in daylight photos if someone was in bright colored t shirts etc... in most conditions, except low light, it's my best Cam experience so far, and I had a few phones and compact cameras too. In low light with moving people on the scene photos, I use the flash and get over with it... it's a dream to have perfect no blur no artifact no noise images in dark. Even if ultrapixel is quite good to gather light, exceptional in that, in near dark it will have noise in the end. So end of the story: it's still one of the best cameras today, even if it could be better with laser focus (which is blazing fast and precise at following).
Who had speed issue, check Makeup level. If you cranked it up, it will be slow. And not much added value compared to just having it on zero by my experience
Last night I took this photo of the moon... it was possible only due to the manual mode. For clear moon photos, you need VERY high shutter speeds, at least 1/500th of a second. The moon was hazy due to cloud cover, and I feel that it impacted image quality. However the image isn't bad.
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Not at all bad, instead quite good. Wow
Hey guys! Having a problem focusing on a subject (i.e., not able focus at all)?
Simple: use manual focus(in the manual mode) instead! It works well, in my experience. This improves my opinion of this camera further! Please see attached pics.
Final lowdown: The camera is amazing in well lit conditions, decent in moderately lit conditions and poor in low lit conditions. But shoot in the camera's native 10:7 aspect (and I prefer "medium res" (16MP)).
PS : The grains on photos on the objects in lowly lit scenarios are probably due to a lossy compression algorithm, just as seen on the regular M9.
PPS : I tried to contact HTC about whether we'll get a raw camera update (which should technically reduce the low light problems that we face currently). They said that they wouldn't reveal any info about that topic. :banghead:
Edit to previous post: even the macro mode is good for close ups, which is usually when I have focusing problems.
The following the posts are in the order:
AUTO:
MACRO:
MANUAL :
I also forgot to mention, lower the sharpness to -1/-1.5 in low light and -0.5/-1 in good light as HTC's camera has loved over sharpening since a long time, including phones like the Desire. This is following the advice from the M9 thread, which works on this phone as well.
What else do I need for a cozy excursion and casual photos without and with HDR? Not much more, but exactly an HTC m9+ (not full resolution images this time, I'm away from PC)
Took these last last night and they all look good.
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Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy A7 (2018) come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I`ll be honest here too.
I don`t think that these sensors are true 24MP. I would say that they are at most 8MP and with heavy (and very bad) interpolation they get them to 24.
I have tried this. Shot few pictures at 24MP and the same in 8MP through the camera settings. Then I used Photoshop to interpolate the 8MP ones to 24. Guess what, at 100% crop the quality was the same, if not better.
But still if you shot something in 24MP and then reduce and resize the whole picture and do a little sharpening in PS the result will be better than just shot in 8MP.
The camera is a mess.
But then again when they are looked at the phone screen they are not all that bad. More like in the decent range.
TL;DR
If you want good camera in your phone this model is not for you.
Currently I`m not able (personal reasons) to provide raw shots for demonstration but if someone wants resource you can find some in this review https://mobile-review.com/review/samsung-galaxy-a7-2018.shtml
After week or so I`ll provide my own photographs.
I have this phone over a month now and I'm pritty happy with the camera. I was able to compare it to my previous phone - iPhone 7 and Galaxy s7. Pictures from a main sensor has better quality in terms of details, noise control and dynamic range than than Galaxy S7. Comparing to iPhone details and noise control are on pair, dynamic range much better and speed and quality of automation worse. Wide lens has quite a bit of a lens distortion which are clearly no corrected with postprocessing although those are natural with that kind of lense. Video made with A7 had natural smooth panning and good quality in good and very good light. In bad light conditions wide lens has much noise and main sensor has unnatural brown tint. There is EIS in normal and wide lens no same high class like in iPhone but with proper technique there is no problem to produce steady nice looking recording. Now some pictures made with A7. First wide lens and after that standard one:
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I`m really busy lately so I have only made few example pictures but to preserve their real quality I have upload them in gdrive here A7 2018 pics. As the winter is near and everything is grey there isn`t anything interesting to photograph around so I apologize for that.
When I have more time I`ll try and snap more "macro" shots but as there isn`t any bugs around in this cold nor beautiful flowers I doubt that any of you wants to see snaps of spoons or something, haha.
Well, I can snap some electronic components and stuff, hmm.
Btw I discovered snapseed app but as I said when looked in the phone pictures doesn`t really look that bad and if I want to do good edit for desktop view I would always prefer PS anyway.
But if someone needs good editor for posting pics in social medias snapseed is the way to go.
Note that the pictures in my gdrive are not touched with any apps, they are straight from the camera app.
Belgarionbg said:
I would say that they are at most 8MP and with heavy (and very bad) interpolation they get them to 24.
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MIND = BLOWN
This stuff should be illegal.
blazzer12 said:
MIND = BLOWN
This stuff should be illegal.
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Let me f* you up little bit more.
According to samsung this is their super mega amazing 24MP sensor at it`s best: (at 100% crop)
Some exif info: 1/220 s, f/1.7, 0.00 eV, ISO 40, Center weighted average, focal length 3.93 mm
Now lets look at what my 11 years old Canon PowerShot A550 do with his poor 7MP sensor do at 100% crop:
some exif: 1/320 s, f/7.1, ISO 80, 0.00 eV, metering mode Pattern, focal length 5.8 mm
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Now, tell me what do you think. Would real 24MP sensor be that f*cked up and on top on that I think was from Sony.
I would even say it`s may be even 6 or 5MP...
Again, 100% crop from some clouds, just look at this sh*t:
I really don`t understand how they managed to mess this bad.
Then again the fault lays partly with the integrated camera app. It`s really bad and it`s using bad processing. Just look at this:
But there is another problem with HD camera pro. For inside shots is amazing but when shooting outside the sharping is way, way too much to the point of loosing details. See this (100% crops)
In the end after taking over 1200 photographs in the course of the last few weeks with 7 different apps I found one that is the best all around and it`s Camera Zoom FX. (100% crops)
This is after sunset with bad light at 1600 ISO. Bad as you can get. But still camera zoom manages to stand out.
Just for the record. The firmware for the A7 (2018) has been updated. At Sammobile it says:
Firmware for the SM-A750FN with product code PHN from Netherlands. This firmware has version number PDA A750FNXXU1ARK4 and CSC A750FNOXM1ARK2. The operating system of this firmware is Android 8.0.0 , with build date Fri, 23 Nov 2018 06:05:24 +0000. Security patch date is 2018-11-01, with changelist 14377560.
Model SM-A750FN
Model name
Country
Version Android 8.0.0
Changelist 14377560
Build date Fri, 23 Nov 2018 06:05:24 +0000
Security Patch Level 2018-11-01
Product code PHN
PDA A750FNXXU1ARK4
CSC A750FNOXM1ARK2.
I did install it successfully (download via Smartswitch) on a rooted phone. It adds super slow-mo the the camera. My phone is so new that I can't really say whether it has improved on the overall quality of the camera at all.
awful
this is the simple way to describe this camera..I had a huawei with a 12MPx cam before getting this one the other day and the photo quality is waaaay worse than it was on the huawei with half the resolution (and half the lenses, lol) The images are an overprocessed mess (the preview looks better than the photo ffs) and I'm not sure why people are writing praises to its wide lens included in a medium range phone..I mean, whats the point if the pictures are pure crap? The bundled app clearly doesn't know whats its doing but there is no way to stop it messing up your pics..I hope that somebody makes a working google cam port and it fixes up things a bit..really disappointed with it
The photo looks fine in the preview, but then Samsung's processing ruin everything.
for Italian people and all SAMSUNG GALAXY A7 (2018) users
Poor quality, low details, and images are soft and muddy.
You can read and participate
on Samsung Community thread:
Foto galaxy a7 2018 sfocate o con effetto "pastello"
and facebook group:
Samsung A7 Problema Foto
Now since One UI and Android PIE is in beta, we have to wait, maybe something will change. If someone already updated, or will update soon, please provide some info about camera quality
Russia should get soon Pie update, plz tell us if this improves picture quality.
Thanks a lot for spoiler
gigiotd said:
Russia should get soon Pie update, plz tell us if this improves picture quality.
Thanks a lot for spoiler
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Camera quality is same. Same drivers, same app, and same quality. So don't get your hopes up
Erecik said:
Camera quality is same. Same drivers, same app, and same quality. So don't get your hopes up
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Sure?
In changelog I read something related to camera improvements...
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Sure?
In changelog I read something related to camera improvements...
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Yes I am sure. Quality is as bad as it was in oreo
OK, I am in the process of exchanging the device for an iPhone, unless Samsung service center can manually change the software settings.
First, here is the cause of the problem: Noise reduction can not be turned off and it destroys any image, even in the daylight. SAMSUNG, give us the option to turn off noise reduction completely in the default camera app!!!
To all of you who are stuck with this device(and I might be stuck with it as well). I FOUND A TEMPORARY SOLUTION!!!
AGAIN! THERE IS A TEMPORARY SOLUTION!!! Install the app called FreeDCamera!!! It is free and allows you to turn off noise reduction and shoot normal images!!!
This, of course is not what we need. We need to be able to turn off noise in the default camera app, but this will allow you to shoot regular 24mpix images that are sharp and have good color reproduction. The wide angle camera and bokeh will not be utilized, and unfortunately this means that device is still not functioning as specified but at least you can take some really good pictures.
24mpix camera, both front and rear with noise reduction turned off is actually pretty damn good!
Freedcam denoise not work. Root is need?
I bought this and the camera quality is hugely disappointing . Such a damn shame , since everything else is very good .
How to change shutter speed?
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Huawei P30 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Hi everyone. Any camera improvements over Mate 20 Pro?
No sample photo here?
It's hard to find one even in youtube since all attention goes to the Pro version...
On my Channel you can find a review (but in german)
youtube.com/mobilejack
WarVic said:
Hi everyone. Any camera improvements over Mate 20 Pro?
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Hi. To be honest, camera improvements over Mate 20 Pro is minimal. I own this phone right now as well as Pixel 3 XL. Previously had Mate 20 Pro for 4 month. I expected much better and more consistent shots compared to Mate 20 Pro. But it is not the case here unfortunately. Hit and miss is still the proper description of camera experience. Sure the phone is able to produce really nice photos but heaps of crappy ones popping up too (over-, underexposed, overcontrasted, out of focus...). I wish that P30 would be better than Pixel 3 XL in camera department at least and I'd finally ditch the last one.
At the same time I'd recommend P30 (non-Pro) over Mate 20 Pro due to slightly better (warm) camera tone to my test, more comfortable size, much better fingerprint scanner, flat (!) screen, better speakers (even not stereo ones), headphone jack. Wireless charging can be added for extra $50 via quite nice official Huawei wireless charging case.
P30 Lite cam test
Selfie cam quality seems a bit iffy, says 32MP but more often than not I get a worse quality image than my 8MP selfie cam on the S9 gave, similarity the 40MP setting for the rear cam I can see no difference between 10MP and 40MP, I took a photo across the room of a label on a box, zoomed in on 10MP and 40MP and they were both exactly the same as each other in terms of quality and readability, only difference I see is you lose some options with 40MP such as zoom
Focus seems fairly bad too, it borders my face to say it knows my face is there but when I check the photo it has actually focussed on something behind me or my top or something other than my face, which is slightly OOF compared
In bright sunlight the 10MP rear cam takes great pics, low light is clever but not great quality, seems like Huawei spent too much of their time adding features and gimmicks than actually making sure everything basic worked properly first
That yellowish tint is horrible. When the light is a little bit worse it appears... What is intresting - on ultra wide mode it looks much more normally, no yellow tint, colors look more realistic. My HTC 10 from 2016 do much more realistic shots and the quality is much more stable on its camera. Have you the same look on your cameras?
And imo photos are very unstable, sometimes great, sometimes sucks, low sharpness, yellow tint, candy colors, dont like it. On selfie cam at least it looks very good for me.
I don't know what's wrong with your camera. I have a HTC U11 with GCam installed, (was my previous phone) and i like to compare very often the camera side by side and for daytime they look pretty similar, sometimes i prefer the P30, sometimes U11, but on low light, there's no contest, the P30 is way ahead, as it should be. And for the consistency, we have to accept that the lack of OIS means we have to be a little more careful when we take pictures.
Hey, thanks for answer. Dont know how about u11, but i found in my HTC 10 more softness image, in p30 looks a litttle bit grainy when you zoom photo you made. Have u seen that too? Yeah, in good light the same opinion : one time htc, one time p30. But when im in the building, room etc. p30 begins to give yellow shade. Maybe ill upload some shots later to compare.
In low light sometimes shots loks unreal lighty, but sometimes camera makes perfect job
I uploaded some shots :
First are the night shots : one the most realistic regulated manualy, one in auto, one in night mode - auto and night mode looks so unreal, dont like it.
Next in room : one in auto, one on ultra wide mode which gives much more realistic colors, on auto that yellowish tint.
And shots from work one on auto which gives yellow tints, and one on 3x tele which looks much more realistic (the tiles color) than auto.
Huawei made alot of intrested things, but they didnt paid enough attention and work on main camera in my opinion.
https://ibb.co/QJ2K294 - auto, turned light down manually
https://ibb.co/xYfS0hX - night mode (wtf?)
https://ibb.co/kMmw9WP - auto (wtf?)
https://ibb.co/fGWk39t - auto (wtf?)
https://ibb.co/xXTM5GX - zoom x3
https://ibb.co/pjnXSpN - auto (wtf?)
https://ibb.co/5hVx4k1 - wide-angle
This camera seems to take better shots in monochrome than colour
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Hello. Can anybody compare P20 PRO with P30 (not pro) in camera quality? I have had P20 Pro for a moment but "hit and miss" camera quality, especially for fast moving objects (children) forced me to sell it. Now I am thinking about P30 (not pro), but if it doesn't have OIS can I expect real any improvement in camera quality?
OIS or not you won't find much if any difference with either of those, they take too much time to process the photo once u press the shutter hence the hit or miss
This is odd. My three years old HTC U11 have IMHO better photo recurrence as P20 PRO (more hits nor miss). Also less images were blurred with U11 like with P20 PRO.
nedalnib said:
Hello. Can anybody compare P20 PRO with P30 (not pro) in camera quality? I have had P20 Pro for a moment but "hit and miss" camera quality, especially for fast moving objects (children) forced me to sell it. Now I am thinking about P30 (not pro), but if it doesn't have OIS can I expect real any improvement in camera quality?
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Not so big difference in cameras !
OIS and EIS both both work together for better image processing!
P30 screen size is perfect for me !
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Like most of you I had much bigger expectation from P30 camera, but I am totally disappointed specially when found out cannot shoot in RAW, now I wish I went with my initial guts feeling and purchased the LG
hyewiz said:
Like most of you I had much bigger expectation from P30 camera, but I am totally disappointed specially when found out cannot shoot in RAW, now I wish I went with my initial guts feeling and purchased the LG
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witch LG?
hyewiz said:
Like most of you I had much bigger expectation from P30 camera, but I am totally disappointed specially when found out cannot shoot in RAW, now I wish I went with my initial guts feeling and purchased the LG
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You can shoot RAW photos in PRO Mode only!
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