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Has anyone else noticed this?
If you put the phone on vibrate mode, then recieve a text message, occasionally the orange light will not stop flashing, even after reading the message. I've got the "flash light for No Limit" option selected, as I want the light to flash until it's read.
To switch the flashing off, I have to go into Settings > Sounds & Notifications > Notifications then click OK without changing anything.
Annoying bug!
Yes, I've noticed this also. I have mine set to 5 minute flash but some things don't seem to realise they have been read and continue flashing.
Do you have the same ROM as me? - see my sig.
borgs said:
Yes, I've noticed this also. I have mine set to 5 minute flash but some things don't seem to realise they have been read and continue flashing.
Do you have the same ROM as me? - see my sig.
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Yeh, the strange thing is that this works ok for me when on normal mode (i.e. not vibrate).
How do you check ROM version?
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borgs said:
Yes, I've noticed this also. I have mine set to 5 minute flash but some things don't seem to realise they have been read and continue flashing.
Do you have the same ROM as me? - see my sig.
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Yeh, the strange thing is that this works ok for me when on normal mode (i.e. not vibrate).
How do you check ROM version?
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Go to Start>>Settings>>System>>Device Information
Thanks. Yes, same ROM version. Is that the latest one?
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Thanks. Yes, same ROM version. Is that the latest one?
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Not sure if it is. I think there is talk of a 1.13 radio but can't find any firmwares at the Qtek site.
I wonder if you would mind checking something for me on yours please...
With the machine in flight mode, could you attempt to turn on bluetooth by clicking on the bottom left of the today page and then ticking the top checkbox that appears on the next page. Does your LED start flashing blue or do you get a message telling you turn on the radio first.
I cannot find a way to turn on bluetooth at the same time that the radio (phone) is turned off (note with pocket PC on). I think it is a problem with this firmware but it could be a problem with just mine.
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It has the same problem on mine: flight mode needs to be off for BT.
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It has the same problem on mine: flight mode needs to be off for BT.
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Thank you Timewarp. Unless someone knows of an alternative way to turn the phone off without using flight mode it seems to me that this firmware is a bit faulty.
For most people I don't expect it will be a major problem but for me, who intends to use mapping software whilst out hiking it could prove a real battery drain.
Qtec told me that it was a faulty phone and to return it - it does look like they were wrong, its not a faulty phone but a bug or strange feature in the firmware.
Thanks again!
OK, thanks to kta I have now managed to get bluetooth on and GSM off!
I did try it a few days ago and it didn't work - maybe I had an older version of the software.
So it looks like the standard software can't do it but some 3rd party software (Phone Alarm v1.27) can!
How about this idea as a work around?
Turn on flight mode, then turn it off again. When it asks for your PIN, click Cancel. Then turn on BT. You get BT on then, without your phone connecting.
I'm not sure whether this will save the battery drain though.
so thats what that option was for. i thought it was supposed to flash the screen.
On mine if i get a message or a missed call the orange light comes on solid(not flashing) and i have it set to no limit as well
i'm on rom 1.12 and radio 1.13
Timewarp said:
How about this idea as a work around?
Turn on flight mode, then turn it off again. When it asks for your PIN, click Cancel. Then turn on BT. You get BT on then, without your phone connecting.
I'm not sure whether this will save the battery drain though.
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Yep, I thought of that too, but if you read what it says on the screen, something like "you can only make emergency calls" that suggests that it still needs a link to phone transmitters. So, although the green led doesn't flash I would say that it is still communicating with transmitters and thus using up battery power. I'll test this in my car, if I hearclicks over my car speaker then that will prove that the phone is actually still communicating with transmitters.
If I don't hear any clicks from the speaker then the phone probably isn't on.
I'll test it on my way home tonight and let you know.
Cheers
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Yep, I thought of that too, but if you read what it says on the screen, something like "you can only make emergency calls" that suggests that it still needs a link to phone transmitters. So, although the green led doesn't flash I would say that it is still communicating with transmitters and thus using up battery power. I'll test this in my car, if I hearclicks over my car speaker then that will prove that the phone is actually still communicating with transmitters.
If I don't hear any clicks from the speaker then the phone probably isn't on.
I'll test it on my way home tonight and let you know.
Cheers
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Yeh, I'm not sure whether it'll be communicating with transmitters all the time, or would only do this when you tried to make an emergency call.
If you think about it, emergency calls would use any available network, whether you're a subscriber or not, rather than the company that you have a contract with. When you have your phone connected to the network (flight mode off, PIN entered), I would guess that it would only keep your service provider's systems up-to-date with your location and not every mobile service provider in range :?: I say this because in some areas you can get reception from some networks and not others.
Anyway, it'll be interesting to see what you find.
Edit: Post deleted as I realised my reasoning in the post was flawed.
Hello All:
This is my first post here but just reading around has solved many problems for me already. However, my phone (sprint mogul 8600) has been misbehaving and even a hard reset did not solve this problem.
My problem is that the stupid thing won't stay asleep, ruining my battery life and sanity. Is there a way to set it so that it will only wake on active decisions (incoming text, incoming call) and me pushing the power button? I've cruised option after option but I haven't been able to find anything useful.
It still functions properly when it should wake up, it just seems to wake up every few minutes on my desk and i think i have an incoming something to deal with. In the end I have just stopped paying attention and have missed lots of calls because of it.
My apologies if there is a faq that goes over this already, I looked but could not find.
Thanks in advance
Battery life goes down approximately 50% per 10 hrs because the phone turns on as if someone hit the power button at irregular intervals. Is the phone SUPPOSED to be able to turn on for reasons other than incoming messages or using the power button? Its driving me crazy, I can't even go out for a day because it will run out of battery.
Are you running a custom rom or stock rom? If stock, is the most up to date from your carrier? After you did the hard reset, did you test it before installing any cab files? It's possible one of the apps you are installing may cause this.
If it's the stock rom and you are installing nothing, I would say it's a defective phone.
I know on an old PDA I had years back at midnight every night it would turn on, it would do maintenance on my scheduler and then turn back off, but haven't seen my phone ever do this during normal hours.
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It has to be software on that rom or additional installed by you. If you haven't installed any software you might want to try flashing a custom rom and see if that takes care of it.
i have had the same problems with my ppc6800 and blackjack 2, i think it has to do with the changing networks... on my drive home from mass to maine it will do it in about 5 spots anyways consistantly. in my hotel in mass i get crappy reception and itll do it every now and then. this has been an issue with both phones. bugs the hell outta me on my trip home cus itll light up, then i grab it to figure out why and theres nothing... learned to live with it
I performed a hard reset after continued trouble with this. It will come on at least 1 time per hour, and as often as every 5 minutes, with absolutely nothing done to it short of initial calibration/data entry. It will also do this sitting on my desk, not moving or anything.
I suppose I could try a custom rom, but I fear I am opening pandora's box, as I am told these phones are on backorder if i happen to brick mine. Any recommendations for a new ROM to try?
This is normal.
Is this sufficient problem to get it replaced? A hard reset and nothing else and problem persists.
It's a win mobile "feature" since the early WinCE days. Every Palm-size/WinCE/WinMO device I've owned turned itself on from time to time. Now, it's blamed on network changes, mostly going in and out of EVDO coverage. When these were simple PDA's, it was blamed on internal housekeeping. If you corner a MS rep on the issue, they will blame the hardware and outside software vendors. I never believed them. Either get used to it or buy a device other than a WinMo based, it will never ever be fixed!
BTW, I'm in my basement where I get less than an ideal signal and my Mogul has turned on and off 3 times while I was typing this.
I have my phone sitting next to me in the cradle all night long, 2-3 hours before I go to bed I turn out the lights to either view my laptop easier or watch TV, if my phone was turning on I would know it because I would have bright light in my eyes.
So I would say it's not as common as you described in the 2-3 times while composing the email. Mine might turn on at midnight, tho I am usually asleep by then, so I can't say for sure, but the only time it turns on (that I know of) is when I receive a text message or a phone call. Emails don't wake up my phone. And I get 20-30 emails a day.
I am on a 1X only network, no EVDO here yet, so it could be an issue with EVDO, in my phone settings I have an option for Service Tone, that makes a beeping sound when I lose or regain service, might try turning that on and see if it's beeping when the phone is turning on. If so, it's a signal issue.
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I have this problem too and hate it. Every time I come out of the subway the phone turns on in my pocket. I cant drive at night with the phone facing up on the dash because it turns on every couple of mins. It's completely annoying, kills the battery and launches tons of programs, every once in a while it makes calls too. I would be very happy to get this "feature" taken off my phone!
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WinMo devices turning on all by themselves is the reason there are so many screen lock programs available. If you've got a WM device and plan to carry it in a confined pocket (like your pants) check out S2U2 or throttlelock. Your phone turns on when leaving the subway because it's aquiring a signal, it probably turned on while in the train while searching for signal too. While driving, you're probably passing in and out of 3G coverage which will also turn the device on. If you stay in a solid signal area, the phone will stay off for the most part, but that does negate the whole mobile thing a bit. The center of my basement where my home theater is gets a inconsistant 3G signal. My Mogul will turn on and off and kill the battery in a few hours. My wifes Palm, my friends BB's and iphones won't turn on once. Once again, the issue of WM/PocketPC/WinCE turning on for no apparent reason has been a c ommon complaint for years, at least to the Casio E105 days when I started on my WM journey. Since MS has never addressed the issue, I doubt they ever will.
I have never had the phone random come on from sleep. Leaving and entering coverage doesn't change that. I say you have something in the rom causing the problem or a program running in the background
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I have never had the phone random come on from sleep. Leaving and entering coverage doesn't change that. I say you have something in the rom causing the problem or a program running in the background
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You've never taken the phone out of a pocket or holster to find it already on? My 6700 on VZW did and I think I ran every ROM developed for it at one time or another, each of my 3 Moguls running various OEM and custom ROM's did/does. I've heard similar complaints from coworkers running various
WM devices. A friend I take the train with daily complained about this with his AT&T Tilt too. Both my non phone Axims (x5 & x51) occasionally turned on as did my Toshiba E805, Casio e100, e105 and e115. Every WinCE based device forum I have participated in over the years has featured complaints about WM turning on with no user interaction. Obviously, it's not a deal breaker for me, but it does happen...a lot. The issue in my basement is the extreme of the problem, move the phone towards the exterior walls and the phone reverts to only turning on and quickly off occasionally. Another example. When traveling by LIRR to Penn Station the phone will stay off even when entering the river tunnel ad traveling under Manhattan. At some point when I exit the station, the phone turns itself on. Since I'm walking in rush hour crowds, I've never tried to find at which exact point my Mogul turns on, but it's always on when I get my coffee in Borders Cafe.
I have never taken it out of my pocket and have it been turned on. It is always in sleep mode.
This also happens to me, i own a mogul, and this is really and extremely annoying.
i have test it for few months and this is my conclusion.
As you guys said already just wait for few min and it will turn on the screen, but also when i shake it and when you hit it.
it really is a battery killer.
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This also happens to me, i own a mogul, and this is really and extremely annoying.
i have test it for few months and this is my conclusion.
As you guys said already just wait for few min and it will turn on the screen, but also when i shake it and when you hit it.
it really is a battery killer.
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If it's turning on when you shake it, you probably have a hardware issue.
It seems like every custom rom removes/disables it - what do people have against it? I think it's pretty helpful getting an alert when the battery is charged.
Unless I'm misunderstanding something.
Some people are light sleepers, and when it pops up it makes a noise and wakes them up usually at around 2:00 in the morning, and nobody likes that lol
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Why have a message just look for the blue light lol
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Because a lot of people enable "stay awake", plug their phone in to charge, then hit power to manually put it to sleep. No idea I it does it on Froyo but on Eclair the full battery message would wake up the phone and the screen would stay on. Do it enough and you will have a full battery dialog burned into your screen.
I personally hate popups in general: that's why I have a notification bar.
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It doesn't bother me any, but those who use their phones as a bedside alarm clock and charge their phone at night have grown to hate it.
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Because a lot of people enable "stay awake", plug their phone in to charge, then hit power to manually put it to sleep. No idea I it does it on Froyo but on Eclair the full battery message would wake up the phone and the screen would stay on. Do it enough and you will have a full battery dialog burned into your screen.
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Exactly, and it wakes me up at night.
its annoying on 1000 different levels, even if you don't enable stay awake.
eg:
1. you plug in your phone to charge, go to sleep. 2 hrs in, you hear a sharp beep sound that wakes you up. ...
2. same as 1, but now you've forgotten to face the phone down and the screen on the epic is also on. shines a pretty bright light against the wall... that keeps you up. ...
3. You remembered to put your phone facing down so the screen doesn't shine against the wall when the notification comes on AND the beeping didn't wake you up luckily. Your alarm comes on, you're half asleep and you want to turn the alarm off. Guess what? you have to go through another step and click "ok" for the notification and THEN turn off the alarm.
4. you're plugging in your phone while you're using. It fully charges. BAM! the notification comes on. Intrusive! (this is why even iphone people who like iOS complain about their notification system)
This is why I hate the notification. Worse:
5. IT DOES NO GOOD. What's the point? All the above problems and there is seriously no positive trade off. Just throw a stupid icon on the notification area if they want a feature telling people their battery is full so much. Even better: easy option to disable the notification.
stupid samsung.
I was thinking the same thing this morning until I had it pop up on me for the first time in a long while (new rom)
You guys don't silence your phones when you go to sleep?
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You guys don't silence your phones when you go to sleep?
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No, because if someone needs me ASAP in the middle of the night then I want to be alerted of a text or call. (Differing reasons, but in the past: bail friend from jail, booty call, drive a drunk friend home, family member had a car accident, etc.)
I personally use my phone as my alarm clock, but the Eclair alarm clock allows alarms to override silent mode which is nice. So this isn't truly a factor for me hating it.
I really dislike the pop up and alert noise as a whole. Seeing the blue LED light is enough for anyone to see it's fully charged.
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You guys don't silence your phones when you go to sleep?
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Do you have kids old enough to stay out late? Or an ex who keeps the youngest one at times? Do you have a father who's dying and your phone should be ringing any day now about funeral arrangements?
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It doesn't bother me any, but those who use their phones as a bedside alarm clock and charge their phone at night have grown to hate it.
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Ya, i hate it, when i hear annoying beaping noise even when my phone is on vibrate i hear it, thank god its gone!!
I'm surprised anyone would wonder why so many people hate the battery full popup/sound.
I hate it because I use my phone as an alarm so I sleep next to it, I charge my phone when I go to bed, and I'm a light sleeper so the damn thing wakes me up if I don't fall asleep right away.
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You guys don't silence your phones when you go to sleep?
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No. Why the hell would I do that? There could be an emergency from a friend/SO/family member that will call/text me. Not to mention the alarm piece I said above.
I imagine anyone who would need me in an emergency knows my house number.
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I'm surprised anyone would wonder why so many people hate the battery full popup/sound.
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Here's a question: Does anybody actually like this popup? It's one thing not to dislike it, but is there anyone who really gets upset when it's gone?
Turn the darn beep sound off by going to settings>sound>volume>system volume and slide it all the way off. The rest of your sounds will still work, like the phone ringer etc., but the full charge beep won't wake you up anymore.
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I imagine anyone who would need me in an emergency knows my house number.
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My Epic is my only phone. I suspect that's true for a lot of people.
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Here's a question: Does anybody actually like this popup? It's one thing not to dislike it, but is there anyone who really gets upset when it's gone?
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I think this is the best response in the thread. I disable it (thanks devs!) so I don't have to see it/hear it. Why would Samsung even put it in here. Do other Samsung Touchwiz phones have this "feature".
If Samsung is really bent on having it, at least give users the option to disable it.
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I imagine anyone who would need me in an emergency knows my house number.
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Dude. Seriously. Here's the nice response from me:
We use our phones differently and what works for one does not work for another and as long as it is not harming someone else or someone else's loved ones, we should never force our lifestyle onto others.
I was going to let you read my original response but then I caught myself assuming that you were closer to my age. For all I know, you are 12 and these questions and assertions you make are perfectly reasonable for someone of that age. So, I'll be nice just in case.
I have purchased HTC Trophy and it have some problems when calling
Sometimes when i call it makes the sound like Busy and ends call and reception bar shows 0-1 then goes Full, but number is not busy and does it fault of Operator or Mobile Phone and can anyone help?
Only issues I've had with my Trophy were while driving into a tunnel and losing a call due to bad reception.
You need to test if its your provider or the phone's problem. Get a SIM card from another operator and test it out, call different numbers in different locations... if you can't just ask to exchange the phone.
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Only issues I've had with my Trophy were while driving into a tunnel and losing a call due to bad reception.
You need to test if its your provider or the phone's problem. Get a SIM card from another operator and test it out, call different numbers in different locations... if you can't just ask to exchange the phone.
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Thanks I will try and i have one more question:
Does your HTC Trophy get warm?or hot?
nightwishh said:
Thanks I will try and i have one more question:
Does your HTC Trophy get warm?or hot?
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Nope... but I've had some Android devices get very hot.
Try and remove the battery off your Trophy and see if that helps out.
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Nope... but I've had some Android devices get very hot.
Try and remove the battery off your Trophy and see if that helps out.
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and what need to do after battery off?? install other battery ? or the same and gets hot again : D
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and what need to do after battery off?? install other battery ? or the same and gets hot again : D
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Remove battery, face North and shake it 3 times... place battery back into phone and turn it on.
See how it works out.
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Remove battery, face North and shake it 3 times... place battery back into phone and turn it on.
See how it works out.
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and it won't get hot never ? is it recommended to get hot ?
can you give me your skype ID ? i will add you )
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and it won't get hot never ? is it recommended to get hot ?
can you give me your skype ID ? i will add you )
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Not saying it won't ever again get hot... remove it and try it out. If it keeps getting too hot, I'd suggest taking back for a swap/refund.
How is the calls issue ? Solved, still giving you problems ?
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Not saying it won't ever again get hot... remove it and try it out. If it keeps getting too hot, I'd suggest taking back for a swap/refund.
How is the calls issue ? Solved, still giving you problems ?
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I don't know it didn't make me disturb, but sometimes the message didn't send
I clicked on "Try Again" and it still doesn't send, but when i write message for different number it has been sent. I Don't know what does happens.
Can you offer me some of the best navigation application?
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I don't know it didn't make me disturb, but sometimes the message didn't send
I clicked on "Try Again" and it still doesn't send, but when i write message for different number it has been sent. I Don't know what does happens.
Can you offer me some of the best navigation application?
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Does your trophy gets hotter??
I Was told that almost all smartphone gets hotter during using or charging and does your Trophy gets hotter too??
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Does your trophy gets hotter??
I Was told that almost all smartphone gets hotter during using or charging and does your Trophy gets hotter too??
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The only time my Trophy gets a bit too hot to notice, is when I use it in my car... lighter charging and music playing.
My daughter has this phone. She says it's always acting wierd. She says sometimes it refuses to dial out or send out an sms. That she has to keep it plugged in all the time.
It's running stock software and the software is up to date. Is there any updates or suggestions you can give to me so I can try to straighten it out? She uses facebook alot, and plays a few games but not many on it. Most things are set to like 3 hour update intervals. I played around with it yesterday and it seemed to work fine for me, but I know it will be a different story when I get home.
She has put calls into verizon and they keep telling her its not her phone that its the other persons phone she is trying to call or text....but that just doesn't sound beleivable.
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My daughter has this phone. She says it's always acting wierd. She says sometimes it refuses to dial out or send out an sms. That she has to keep it plugged in all the time.
It's running stock software and the software is up to date. Is there any updates or suggestions you can give to me so I can try to straighten it out? She uses facebook alot, and plays a few games but not many on it. Most things are set to like 3 hour update intervals. I played around with it yesterday and it seemed to work fine for me, but I know it will be a different story when I get home.
She has put calls into verizon and they keep telling her its not her phone that its the other persons phone she is trying to call or text....but that just doesn't sound beleivable.
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I've had this problem a multitude of times and it's rather infuriating. All you have to do is restart the phone (power it off, turn it back on) and it works fine. I've yet to find the reason for this but it's almost like Airplane Mode is turned on (even though it's not). Ask her if, when it happens, her SMS just instantly fails like the phone isn't even trying to send it. That's what happens to mine.
Thanks for the reply. I will ask her so. I am thinking thats what happens but maybe I'll get lucky enough to see it in the flesh one day.
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Hey Guys,
Take a look at the contacts that are failing and make sure there is no +1 in front of the number and let me know. This was my problem in November. It took a visit to big red to figure it out. Also look in the system info and let us know what version you're running, DJ20 or DL17.
Logan
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Good catch Logan! I forgot about that issue xP
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