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Hi guys, I was wondering which screen size is optimal for the GT - the 10.1 or 8.9?
I intend to use my tablet for content creation (docs etc) as much as content consumption. So would the extra 1.2 screen real estate make much of a difference?
Which one do you personally prefer and what are the reasons (easier to hold, more portable etc)? Thanks
dpakrr said:
Hi guys, I was wondering which screen size is optimal for the GT - the 10.1 or 8.9?
I intend to use my tablet for content creation (docs etc) as much as content consumption. So would the extra 1.2 screen real estate make much of a difference?
Which one do you personally prefer and what are the reasons (easier to hold, more portable etc)? Thanks
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The portability isnt much different since neither can fit in your pocket.
I like the bigger screen, its a more optimal tablet size in my opinion. (It's been said by others to be the "perfect size for a tablet")
The dev work for the 10.1 is MUCH greater (ROMs, Apps, Support).
I haven't had a play around with a 8.9 but 10.1 will be much cheaper. And I read tons of uni research fairly easily on my 10.1
But then the 8.9 might have voice/dialer features. I much prefer 10.1 screen to the sony tablets smaller screen.
After seeing the 8.9 at Best Buy, I purchased the 10.1.
1.2" might seem negligible but IMO you'd enjoy more on the bigger screen (aside from the theoretically better screen quality of the 8.9).
lol i had two tabs open, one with the 10.1 16gb wifi model and one with the 8.9 3g 16gb model. you guys convinced me to go for the 10.1 (plus the fact that its 200 bucks cheaper here lol). bought it, cant wait to receive it now. thanks!
dpakrr said:
lol i had two tabs open, one with the 10.1 16gb wifi model and one with the 8.9 3g 16gb model. you guys convinced me to go for the 10.1 (plus the fact that its 200 bucks cheaper here lol). bought it, cant wait to receive it now. thanks!
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Sure thing bro.
Bluemotion said:
I haven't had a play around with a 8.9 but 10.1 will be much cheaper. And I read tons of uni research fairly easily on my 10.1
But then the 8.9 might have voice/dialer features. I much prefer 10.1 screen to the sony tablets smaller screen.
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The 8.9 is actually cheaper, but not by much. As for the dialer, that remains to be seen. Video and articles from May said it was going to have a dialer but people that just bought them say it's either not present or inactive. Other than screen size and location of the speakers, the internals are the same between the two. I played with a 8.9 and own a 10.1. I liked the feel of the 8.9 but I like the bigger screen on the 10.1 as I use it a lot for video, surfing, and reading. I've been waiting for a 10.1 3G from the UK for over a month. They're receiving stock on Monday and it'll ship out the same day. All the 32GB & 64GB 3G's have been pushed back for over a month in the UK and units are just now being received from Samsung. They'll have the latest firmware. It'll be intersting to see if any updates were made that impact the dialer (or anything else for that matter).
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The 8.9 is actually cheaper, but not by much. As for the dialer, that remains to be seen. Video and articles from May said it was going to have a dialer but people that just bought them say it's either not present or inactive. Other than screen size and location of the speakers, the internals are the same between the two. I played with a 8.9 and own a 10.1. I liked the feel of the 8.9 but I like the bigger screen on the 10.1 as I use it a lot for video, surfing, and reading. I've been waiting for a 10.1 3G from the UK for over a month. They're receiving stock on Monday and it'll ship out the same day. All the 32GB & 64GB 3G's have been pushed back for over a month in the UK and units are just now being received from Samsung. They'll have the latest firmware. It'll be intersting to see if any updates were made that impact the dialer (or anything else for that matter).
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Oh I thought it would sellat a higher price. I think I read somewhere there was going to be a ridiculous markup especially for the UK (me). Regarding dialer update, I tend not to hold my breathe for manufacturer updates. But i would not mind being pleasantly surprised.
I've had my 8.9 since Wednesday and I must say I am enjoying it better than I thought I would. Had the 10.1 Toshiba Thrive and returned it after a few days. Browser seemed alot slower on it and had a tendency to "hiccup" when scrolling. The textured back of the Thrive I feel in love with due to its easy grip, however after holding the device for an extended period because if its size began to feel very heavy and brick like. My Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 feels great, not to mention its easier for me to type than on a 10.1 screen. The additional 1.2 of real estate may not seem alot however for me anyhow it makes all the difference when typing.
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I actually replaced my 10.1 for 8.9, i like the 8.9 size, easier to hold in bed and on sofa and i think easier to type on with two thumps.... Portability was the main reason....
Same here, I like the feel of the 8.9, can hold with one hand and not tire. I also own the Acer 10.1 and compared to size, 8.9 is great.
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hello!!
I just bought the 8.9 and I am delighted to 10.1 and me too much (the taste and color) I do not regret my choice at all
i just got rid of the 10.1 to replace it with 8.9 but i'm going to wait for the 7.7 instead
I just got an 8.9 Friday. I held it at Best Buy and fell in love. I didn't need it at all since it became my 6th tablet (I have a problem, I know.); but I was so floored by holding it, I could not resist. I think how special this form factor is somewhat lost on people who don't own 10 inch tablets. I was completely dismissive of this product from looking at pictures and seeing it was not much smaller than the 10.1, but then I held it. The first thing that came to mind was Jobs' comment that the reduction in weight and thickness made the iPad 2 a categorically different experience from the original. I have an original iPad and have held many iPad 2's and never felt that way about them. I feel that way about the 8.9 in comparison to the other tablets I have.
My recommendation to anyone thinking about this product is to go hold one for at least 15-30 minutes. Change orientation a few times. Type on the keyboard in portrait orientation. If you plan on using your tablet on a surface with a keyboard case or dock, then get the 10.1. If you plan on holding the tablet on the couch or in bed, get the 8.9. It disappoints me that so many bloggers/journalists are treating tablets like flat screen TVs in price/size discussions but don't go into the nuanced discussion that even exists when choosing a TV size (room size, viewing distance, wall mount vs stand).
We'll see what the 7.7 brings to the discussion, but right now 8.9 is my favorite for holding. I use my original 7 as my phone so I don't really consider it part of the tablet discussion and the Galaxy Note seems better suited for phone duty. I don't think 7 is a compelling consumption or creation size unless you have the need to always have the device on your person.
Thumbs Up For A Great Review...
RuzaRoos said:
I just got an 8.9 Friday. I held it at Best Buy and fell in love. I didn't need it at all since it became my 6th tablet (I have a problem, I know.); but I was so floored by holding it, I could not resist. I think how special this form factor is somewhat lost on people who don't own 10 inch tablets. I was completely dismissive of this product from looking at pictures and seeing it was not much smaller than the 10.1, but then I held it. The first thing that came to mind was Jobs' comment that the reduction in weight and thickness made the iPad 2 a categorically different experience from the original. I have an original iPad and have held many iPad 2's and never felt that way about them. I feel that way about the 8.9 in comparison to the other tablets I have.
My recommendation to anyone thinking about this product is to go hold one for at least 15-30 minutes. Change orientation a few times. Type on the keyboard in portrait orientation. If you plan on using your tablet on a surface with a keyboard case or dock, then get the 10.1. If you plan on holding the tablet on the couch or in bed, get the 8.9. It disappoints me that so many bloggers/journalists are treating tablets like flat screen TVs in price/size discussions but don't go into the nuanced discussion that even exists when choosing a TV size (room size, viewing distance, wall mount vs stand).
We'll see what the 7.7 brings to the discussion, but right now 8.9 is my favorite for holding. I use my original 7 as my phone so I don't really consider it part of the tablet discussion and the Galaxy Note seems better suited for phone duty. I don't think 7 is a compelling consumption or creation size unless you have the need to always have the device on your person.
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I feel the exact same way. Thanks for the great review of this device. I fell in love with mine the moment I held it. It just feels right in the hands. With my Toshiba Thrive 10.1 (which I promptly returned to Best Buy), it got tiresome after a little while of holding it. The 8.9 is an awesome tablet as-is, but I know as soon as we get a dedicated forum and some of the most awesomeness and dedicated devs to take their time and crank out some of the hottest ROMS this Tab will become even better.
And you hit it dead on with the similarities to flat screens I myself have noticed how some have compared tablets to TVs. There's just no comparison because I sure as heck aint gonna hold my 42" flat screen in my hand and compare it to a tab...LOL.
I purchased the 10.1 too, but I sometimes feel it was heavy.
Tivo7 said:
The portability isnt much different since neither can fit in your pocket.
I like the bigger screen, its a more optimal tablet size in my opinion. (It's been said by others to be the "perfect size for a tablet")
The dev work for the 10.1 is MUCH greater (ROMs, Apps, Support).
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Have you not seen my custom pockets that can fit anything up to 32" ?
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Since I like to get more for my money (about $64 an inch) I chose the 10.1.
All jokes aside, I want the biggest screen I can get. It doesn't make any sense that smartphones are making screens bigger yet we want our tablet screens to get smaller. The 7.7 Tab just sounds ridiculous when compared to getting the GTab 10.1.
MODS - sorry for double posting, thought I was on the same post.
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Having had time using both, I ultimately went for the 8.9 3G. I can confirm for sure that does NOT have a GSM dialer (present inside root, but not active to the user). That said, it's not that big of an issue for me. Pairing up GroveIP with my Google voice works just fine for the odd tablet based phone call. Besides that, the 8.9 teamed up with my trusty SGS2 makes for a pretty fearsome combo on-the-go.
As for th 8.9 itself, it just feels better to hold in my opinion. It has a much more solid construction and premium feel. Browsing the web in portrait is such a joy, especially when thumb-typing is made just that little bit easier. Speaking of which, this whole post was typed up on my 8.9
The rubberized back of the 8.9 is awesome btw.
I will admitted that I was very tempted to wait for the 7.7 and/or the Note, but for now, I'm very happy with my 8.9/SGS2 duo.
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The rubberized back of the 8.9 is awesome btw.
I will admitted that I was very tempted to wait for the 7.7 and/or the Note, but for now, I'm very happy with my 8.9/SGS2 duo.
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My galaxy tab 10.1 from Egypt has black rubbrized back also . and you are right it is much more better than the shiny cheap white back
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Saw this yesterday. Looks like the 7.7 appears to be on the way.
For those of you like me who have recently picked up the 7.0 plus... What are your thoughts on this? I am happy with my 7+ but the 7.7 is what I was originally waiting for.
www.engadget.com/2011/12/16/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-rolls-through-the-fcc-packing-verizon-fri/
GaresTaylan said:
Saw this yesterday. Looks like the 7.7 appears to be on the way.
For those of you like me who have recently picked up the 7.0 plus... What are your thoughts on this? I am happy with my 7+ but the 7.7 is what I was originally waiting for.
www.engadget.com/2011/12/16/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-rolls-through-the-fcc-packing-verizon-fri/
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Doesn't the 7.7 run on the tegra 2?
Action B said:
Doesn't the 7.7 run on the tegra 2?
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Pretty sure it's a dual-core 1.4ghz xynos.
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7.0+ best device in the right now inthe world. 7.7 will top it. Would love to trade my 7.0 plus for it. Maybe soon...
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7.0+ best device in the right now inthe world. 7.7 will top it. Would love to trade my 7.0 plus for it. Maybe soon...
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Like you I was strongly attracted to the 7.7 when I was in the market to buy. At that time, no word when/if we'd get it here. And imports were $600 and up. Bought the Gt 7+ and have not looked back since.
Gotta say yes, the larger screen (not by much ), AMOLED quality (very nice) and slightly faster processor makes a very attractive package.
But....
Our community here is growing (not light speed but still), we have root and CWM (thanks gary9d), more than a few recognized devs are following here and there are a selection of cases/sleeves with more on the way.
Who is to say the aftermarket accessories manufacturers will embrace SO MANY different "flavors" of GTab (7.0, 7.0+, 7.7, 8.9, 10.1 and perhaps an 11.0?) I'm doubtful myself.
Keep thinking...."a bird in hand is worth two in the bush"
Most likely I am staying with my GTab 7+. But YMMV
skeeterpro said:
Like you I was strongly attracted to the 7.7 when I was in the market to buy. At that time, no word when/if we'd get it here. And imports were $600 and up. Bought the Gt 7+ and have not looked back since.
Gotta say yes, the larger screen (not by much ), AMOLED quality (very nice) and slightly faster processor makes a very attractive package.
But....
Our community here is growing (not light speed but still), we have root and CWM (thanks gary9d), more than a few recognized devs are following here and there are a selection of cases/sleeves with more on the way.
Who is to say the aftermarket accessories manufacturers will embrace SO MANY different "flavors" of GTab (7.0, 7.0+, 7.7, 8.9, 10.1 and perhaps an 11.0?) I'm doubtful myself.
Keep thinking...."a bird in hand is worth two in the bush"
Most likely I am staying with my GTab 7+. But YMMV
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I don't mean to rain on your parade, but there are quite a few more upgrades on the 7.7 over the 7.0 Plus. Bigger battery (5100mAh vs 4000mAh), thinner, lighter, 64GB option, and as you mentioned better display all around - Super AMOLED Plus, higher resolution at 1280 x 800, and larger at 7.7 inches. The only sacrifice really is that it's ever so slightly taller and wider in dimensions, and probably will cost a bit more. I wouldn't underestimate the number of people holding out for the 7.7, I think the dev community will be strong, and I suspect it will have support for CyanogenMod 9.
Although as with all electronics something better will always be just around the corner, as rumors are swirling of a Galaxy Tab 8.3 in the works (Super AMOLED Plus, quad core 1.5GHz, Ice Cream Sandwich), so if you decide to stick with the 7.0 Plus no one is stopping you from enjoying it to the fullest!
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I don't mean to rain on your parade, but there are quite a few more upgrades on the 7.7 over the 7.0 Plus. Bigger battery (5100mAh vs 4000mAh), thinner, lighter, 64GB option, and as you mentioned better display all around - Super AMOLED Plus, higher resolution at 1280 x 800, and larger at 7.7 inches. The only sacrifice really is that it's ever so slightly taller and wider in dimensions, and probably will cost a bit more. I wouldn't underestimate the number of people holding out for the 7.7, I think the dev community will be strong, and I suspect it will have support for CyanogenMod 9.
Although as with all electronics something better will always be just around the corner, as rumors are swirling of a Galaxy Tab 8.3 in the works (Super AMOLED Plus, quad core 1.5GHz, Ice Cream Sandwich), so if you decide to stick with the 7.0 Plus no one is stopping you from enjoying it to the fullest!
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You're right, thanks! I forgot about the battery.
Quite right that there's always "something better" just around the corner. If one were to wait for the next best thing, one would never get anything I suspect. As long as whatever you gets does what you want, it's all good.
It's can be a crap-shoot on community support. Samsung devices have the reputation for quality hence usually a good following. That said, I believe that people who gravitate to forums like this tend to be more tech-centric than the majority of tab users. I do wonder though as I read several articles (trades and users) praising the 7+ but somewhat negative mentions about the price. I am curious just how high Android tabs will be able to fetch. Granted, it's my belief that even the $499 iPad is over priced by at least $100 but I wonder if the $400 price point might be the "sweet spot" for full-featured tabs regardless of size? I'm not a "gamer" so my power needs are modest.
This is my first Samsung tab and I am impressed. But so many screen size choices? Price and not so much screen size/features, I suspect, will drive many sales. Witness B&N and Amazon. I confess I am sure I'll be comparing at BB the 7.7 and other screens when it hits!
Isnt the 7.7 going to be starting at $600? The upgrades look good but im not sure if its an extra $200 good.
The 7.0+ is already a damn good tablet.
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Isnt the 7.7 going to be starting at $600? The upgrades look good but im not sure if its an extra $200 good.
The 7.0+ is already a damn good tablet.
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Well we still don't know what the official prices are going to be, the sites that are offering pre-orders are pretty much just making up their own prices. I have heard however the official price in Australia will be $579 for the 16GB and $649 for the 32GB, and that's in AUD. Looking at the iPad 2 prices in AUD they are almost identical, and we don't know if these prices are for the WiFi or 3G/4G model, but I would suspect the 7.7 will be between $450-500 for the 16GB WiFi model in the US.
Can't wait to see it and compare it with my 7+. Size is my main concern, 7.7 is quite long and wider. If a device is too big, I cant really bring it out whenever I like. Not So useful and convenient like 7 inch tablet too. I once had a larger tablet and I almost left it everyday at my home, sold it at last. Anyway, 7.7 is worth waiting.
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Hi. Im new to this part of xda. And this is somewhat bothersome news as I just bought my plus today. First tablet in some time that made me think wow. I have an ipad now. Owned the Transformer and Dell Streak 5 and 7. I was going to wait until spring.g to see the new XOOM, ipad3, and TF Prime but decided after seeing this I thought this could last awhile before going down in price.
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I'm keeping my plus...
I don't think the upgrades from the 7.7 are worth it.
It will be really disappointing if we never get any good roms... But I'm mostly happy with root as it is.
Anyone who wants to sell The Galaxy Tab 7.7 can write me an PM! But I want it this year in Germany I would Pay 1000 Euros Cash!!!
I am very attracted to the 7.7 personally. Have an 8.9 that I'm planning on selling very soon. (Tegra 2 just plain sucks compared to Exynos frankly), and though it's a nice form factor, it's not for me. No phone calling ability is a big downer too; I like being able to swap my SIM card between my original Tab and phone depending on the situation.
Have the Note too, but not sure if I will keep it or not. Waiting to see what ICS will be like on it. Could be amazing, or could just be "meh." If it's not that much better, may sell my Note too and just stick to an SGS2/7.7 combo.
Then again, CES is right around the corner, so maybe it may be worth waiting longer still depending on what else may be coming out for 2012!
But oh that 7.7 sure looks nice... Damn, I'm such a consumer whore
My main reason for buying the 7+ is because it's quite versatile. I don't want to be lugging around a phone, tablet and laptop with me along with their respective accessories and chargers all day so I opted to buy the 7+. This means I can use my ultraportable for serious computing (negating the need to carry the charger), and the tablet for all my communication needs plus some light gaming, reading or browsing.
So it doesn't have the largest battery, or the best resolution, or the latest and greatest processor; but, it's got a large enough screen to comfortably read eBooks, browse the interwebs, and pretty much everything else. It's got decent enough performance (better than decent, actually) to handle all the apps I want + sd card expansion. And most importantly (for me), it doubles as a phone.
I know I look silly when I take calls on it, but I'm okay with that. Like the famous philosopher Jagger once said 'you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need'.
I love the 8.9 and initially wanted to get that, but in the end telephone capabilities and sd card expansion won out over a larger,more gorgeous screen.
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My main reason for buying the 7+ is because it's quite versatile. I don't want to be lugging around a phone, tablet and laptop with me along with their respective accessories and chargers all day so I opted to buy the 7+. This means I can use my ultraportable for serious computing (negating the need to carry the charger), and the tablet for all my communication needs plus some light gaming, reading or browsing.
So it doesn't have the largest battery, or the best resolution, or the latest and greatest processor; but, it's got a large enough screen to comfortably read eBooks, browse the interwebs, and pretty much everything else. It's got decent enough performance (better than decent, actually) to handle all the apps I want + sd card expansion. And most importantly (for me), it doubles as a phone.
I know I look silly when I take calls on it, but I'm okay with that. Like the famous philosopher Jagger once said 'you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need'.
I love the 8.9 and initially wanted to get that, but in the end telephone capabilities and sd card expansion won out over a larger,more gorgeous screen.
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Do you have a non wifi version? I got my 7+ yesterday and cant find a dialer on it
I am pickinmg my 7.7 wifi up tomorrow from **** Smith in Australia - can't wait, been wanting a tablet for ages. I had originally ordered a Transformer Prime until Amazon canceled the order. But this is the tablet I really wanted.
I don't know. I mean, I was planing to get the 7+ near the end of this month. I know that the screen and whatnot is better or the 7.7, but I seriously don't know if I would like the better screen or use the maybe bit more charge from it having a bigger battery to spend $200 more then what I was planing on spending.
I'm afraid that 7.7 might still have the Black stains/blotches on the screen, just like in S II. When viewing on dark room.
So no specific release date or price? If its not much more in price than the 7 plus and coming out fairly soon id like to return mine and wait for the 7.7
Officially announced on their Facebook page, with pix...
Looks like a giant Note II
And here on their home page.
What you guys think? I want one!
Spec wise it's almost identical, so i don't think i would get one. Note 10.1 is enough for me
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I WILL have one.. Oh yes, I will...
It's got the home button from the phone though. That was one of the things that people hated about the Note 2 compared to the Note 1: having to push a mechanical button instead of a capacitive home button meant having to change to a finger push instead of a stylus poke.
The design, at least to me, is kind of stupid. Android on a tablet doesn't do well in portrait and widgets end up squished to fit. Using the Note 8 in landscape is going to be challenging because of the button placement and types of buttons Samsung decided to use. And having what appears to be a single front-facing speaker is a step back from the Note 10.1. It's just my opinion but having less than a 10" tablet kind of defeats the purpose especially with S Note and multiview. I'm sure it'll sell well though.
I just hope we get some of the new features like Awesome Note (Samsung has a one year Android exclusive) and the addition of TV Discovery to Peal to pull in Netflix and Hulu content.
I waited for Note 8.0 thinking it would be just like Note 10.1 but smaller. But it is more like a bigger version of Note 2 but with poorer camera. Meh.
Samsung - this is an enlarged phone, not a proper tablet.
I don't have a Note 10.1, since I really don't want to drop 400-500 on a tablet anytime soon as I did with the Thinkpad Tablet, and that was a huge mistake. As far as I've seen, this tablet is a lot better, but I think the price point of this 8.0 tablet might be appealing. We'll see, I guess.
Anyone think a second version of the 10.1 tablet is due as well, in the near future at least?
im still thinking if this will be a good backup phone from the Note 10.1 or i might settle for the Nexus 4. but ever since the rumors about the Note 8 came out, i am so into it.
we will see when it is out in stores.
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Using the Note 8 in landscape is going to be challenging because of the button placement and types of buttons Samsung decided to use. And having what appears to be a single front-facing speaker is a step back from the Note 10.1.
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Its a giant note2 who wanna be a note 10.1
It have phone capabilities thats why the front facing speaker and the use of the buttons
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Would love to know that the reading mode would do to the screen
Well the Note 8.0 solves THE big knock on the Note 10.1 - lousy PPI. Because of the smaller form factor the PPI goes up by almost 50 points. That's enough to make a real difference. Also thumb typing in portrait will be much more comfortable. It will also have a large enough screen to handwrite in portrait (unlike the Note 2).
One side benefit of this is that the Note 10.1 will get cheaper. BestBuy has it for $449 today. First time I've seen it on sale there.
Last point. Note 10.1 will now get better software.
I expect the Note 8.0 to be wildly popular and honestly the tablet the Note 10.1 was meant to be.
MWC is on so keep your favorite tech sites bookmarked and check them frequently for all the mobile news out of Spain this week. 7-inch tablets will be big this year. Today, Engadget is reporting on 3 new 7-inchers being shown at MWC--1 by HP that will be priced at $169 USD (not breathtaking specs on it) and 2 by Lenovo. It will be interesting to see if a 3G international version of the note 8 with dialing capabilities will be announced at the official unveiling at MWC. As many have noted, the speaker placement looks similar to the note 2, leading to speculation that some models might have phone capabilities.
I don't see a point why a Note 10.1 user should consider buying this tablet. Of course, dpi is lousy and i won't deny it, it just sucks. But that's one point - the Note 10.1 is a full-fledged android tablet. Landscape oriented, great software, enough power to maintain the upcoming years and some great features like stereo frontfacing speakers.
The Note 8.0 is a LOT more specified and in my opinion it wants to appeal a bit more professional users than most who bought the Note 10.1. I bought it for studying, it'll do a great job then. But i also wanted a multimedia tablet i can use at home, i think the Note 8.0 will have difficulties in that. It's too much different from standard android tablets.
I hoped for the Note 10.1 to get cheaper before i bought it (i waited for almost 2 months) but finally couldn't resist it anymore. I wouldn't buy the Note 8.0 anyway.
MWC is on so keep your favorite tech sites bookmarked and check them frequently for all the mobile news out of Spain this week. 7-inch tablets will be big this year. Today, Engadget is reporting on 3 new 7-inchers being shown at MWC--1 by HP that will be priced at $169 USD (not breathtaking specs on it) and 2 by Lenovo. It will be interesting to see if a 3G international version of the note 8 with dialing capabilities will be announced at the official unveiling at MWC. As many have noted, the speaker placement looks similar to the note 2, leading to speculation that some models might have phone capabilities.
Alright I didn't read Engadet yesterday afternoon and noe see that they've got a preview if the note 8 up and the internaltional 3G version will be able to make phone calls. The article contains a video, too. http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/23/samsung-galaxy-note-8-preview/
I hate that they put the speakers on the bottom?
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It have phone capabilities thats why the front facing speaker and the use of the buttons
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The Wi-Fi version won't and the U.S. and Canada won't be offered a 3G version. And probably in the countries that offer both more than half sold will be Wi-Fi only because people don’t want to have to buy 3G data. The N8000's a phone too but still survives without looking like a giant Note II including hard and soft buttons that are difficult to use in landscape and a single speaker. Do you honestly see anyone with a Note 8 holding it to their ear for phone calls?
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I expect the Note 8.0 to be wildly popular and honestly the tablet the Note 10.1 was meant to be.
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It's just the classic comparison of a 7/8" tablet vs. a 10" tablet. It's no different than comparing the N7 and N10; they are meant for two different market segments. The Note 8's going after the iPad Mini, not the Note 10.1. I agree about the better PPI between the Note 8 and 10 but because of the extra screen real estate you'd typically hold the Note 10 further away minimizing the impact. 10" high-end Android tablets have never sold particularly well because their price points are too close to the iPad and with that the masses tend to go for the original. If I was shopping for a tablet today I'd still buy the Note 10.1 in spite of its PPI because of its features. I like that it's designed to be used in landscape and the extra display space makes productivity stuff tons easier than working with a 7/8" tablet. But, to your point, based on size, price, and volume in the 7/8" space the Note 8 will easily outsell the Note 10.1. And I don't think Samsung cares one way or the other. The only thing I'll give my Note 10.1 up for is a Note the same size or larger with a FHD display. Purely my personal opinion of course.
Its pretty much the same tablet. Ill wait another year or atleast until tech advances enough to justify dropping another 500+ for a tablet. And when that happens, it will probably be a nexus :laugh:
I also find the resolution on the Samsung devices pretty poor :crying: I wish Samsung would bump them up!
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I also find the resolution on the Samsung devices pretty poor :crying: I wish Samsung would bump them up!
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higher dpi sounds great, just remember it means more work for the battery and cpu, I believe the wacom digitizer and resolution need to match also. personally I cannot sacrifice screen real estate, annotating blue prints requires a large screen for me. would love something in the 11.6 range. but I do believe they have different audiences, (I never believe in a one size fits all approach) probably get the little lady one, call it the " lady note"
I only want one cuz it's sexy. That and I'm a sucker for ads lol.
Realistically this could never replace my Note 10.1.
I have been absolutely in love with my Note 2014 since I bought it, and with the help of this forum has been just about the perfect tablet for the last couple of years. But the battery has been struggling lately, and then a little while ago the s-pen broke, and it was impossible to find an OEM replacement. The crappy knock-off s-pen I was able to find online was pretty much unusable, and since I use my Note for handwritten notes and documents almost exclusively, took all of the fun out of the tablet for me. So I went looking for a replacement. I thought about just getting a new Note 2014 off amazon, but I thought it might be good to get something that will run 6.0+. I tried the Nvidia Shield K1, since it has a stylus, but I returned that after just a couple of days. The stylus was terrible, and palm rejection was spotty at best. Then I started looking at the Tab A 10.1 with an S-pen. I was concerned about the resolution mostly, but I went ahead and bought it. Initially, I thought I had made another mistake. The new Samsung Notes app just flat out stinks. Its trying to be an Evernote, and by trying that lost everything that made S-Note such a great program for me. I was about ready to return the Tab and just go back to my dying Note 10.1 when I stumbled across the apk for the updated S-Note. Installed that and I am happy as a clam! Quite a few improvements over the Note 10.1 version, but it imported all my old notes perfectly. I love the new s-pen functionality, and the resolution has not bothered me near as much as I thought it would. I'm sure if I took my Note out and laid them side by side I would notice the difference, but for my use it has not detracted from the tablet at all. The main complaint I have, and that others have made, is that for some ridiculous reason Samsung chose to put the speakers on the same side. That's ok if you are using the tablet in portrait, but who watches any kind of media with the tablet in portrait. So in landscape all the sound comes from the same side. Baffling. But other that that, it has been a great replacement for the Note 10.1. At lease until Samsung gets a clue and comes out with a Note 10.1 2017 edition!
I've been trying out the Tab A 10.1 with S Pen today, and I also really like it, and with Marshmallow it feels a lot more responsive than the Note Pro I've been trying out. But like you said, those speakers! Not only are they on one side, but they sound terrible and don't get loud enough. Still, I could forgive that if they were at least on both sides. After 15 minutes of watching video, I'm noticing a bad discomfort in my right ear (had the speakers facing that way) that I've never felt using myriad of proper stereo tablets I've had, even given that they're relatively quiet. So, I'm sending it back, as well as the Note Pro (thing is more unwieldy than I'd hoped) and hoping the Like New $200 10.1 2014 edition I saw on Amazon doesn't disappoint.
Any other issues with the 10.1 2014 beside the battery and broken pen?
Just wishing if somebody could make a port of tab A 10.1 rom for note 10.1 2014. But I know its practically impossible. So, just a wish.
Tab A 10.1 2016 with S Pen needs an OEM cover/case....the one advertised as an accessory for this tablet is actually for the Tab A 2016 (without S Pen) - which doesn't have the same dimensions. The cases on eBay and Amazon are less than desirable.
I sent mine back. It is a great device, but so is the 2014. A couple of things I didn't like: 16gb model only, speakers on one side when watching in landscape, 'soft' buttons aren't backlit....and absolutely no good options for a case. I also missed the 'swipe' to open the multi-window options, it was just fewer clicks to get everything set up.
I loved the battery (which was phenomenal) and the new/improved SPen functionality. The screen was great - I couldn't tell/see the lower resolution.
It is a great device, just not worth the money to upgrade.
I see the specs the resolution and ppi are lower, less ram?. Do you actually notice any differences?
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I see the specs the resolution and ppi are lower, less ram?. Do you actually notice any differences?
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I didn't have any complaints as far as resolution or performance. Mine were fairly aesthetic (no case, lack of backlit buttons, etc.). If my Note weren't still running fine, I would have kept it. People who say it isn't a 'true' Note haven't tried it. The note functionality was fine - actually had some slight improvements over the 2014.
The resolution is half the 2014. It's very visibly different.
But at least it's a semi decent tablet with a SPen. Hopefully it will get released in a few more markets next year.
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But at least it's a semi decent tablet with a SPen. Hopefully it will get released in a few more markets next year.
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What is the point of buying it over a Note 2014 though? You can find those dirt cheap on ebay these days.
For software updates you can always use CM. I honestly don't get Tab A, there is not one thing that it is better than a 3 year old tablet (that can also be found for less).
Battery life and improved SPen functionality are the TabA's advantages over the Note 2014. I disagree with RojoNinja's comment on resolution being 'visibly different'. It wasn't to my eyes and I had them side-by-side. My wife (who had no idea of the respective resolutions) even commented that the Tab A's screen looked better to her.
I have to admit to struggling with the idea of stepping back on the #'s in the specs was irritating but the screen was fine. The sound wasn't. When you watch a video, you usually watch it in landscape, When you watch in landscape using the Note 2014, there is a speaker on the left and on the right. When you watch with the Tab A in landscape, both speakers end up on one side, giving it a 'mono' sound.
One of my earlier complaints (the lack of an 'official' case) has been resolved.
I've had second thoughts on returning it based on the crappy (and getting worse) battery life of my Note 2014, it's the sound issue and curiosity about what lies around the corner that keeps me with my 2014.
In my experience finding a new or decent secondhand Note 2014 is not easy. They go for good money on Ebay in the UK at least. I replaced mine in the summer and paid a lot more for it than I did the first time around. So a new version with similar(ish) specs is OK in my book. Except it isn't released in UK/Ireland yet, and may not be.
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Battery life and improved SPen functionality are the TabA's advantages over the Note 2014. .
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That is interesting to know actually. Never used Tab A, merely seen its specs. So how much SoT are you getting? After much tweaking, in medium to low brightness I'm getting 8 hours on average (some more some less) with my Note 2014, distributed over a 2-3 days of use (before charging again)
Mind you it's 6 AH (TAB A) vs 8.2 AH (Note 2014). I realize that Tab A has much less power hungry components which may explain the better battery. Still real life results would be interesting to know (by those that actually own the thing). Thanks.
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In my experience finding a new or decent secondhand Note 2014 is not easy. They go for good money on Ebay in the UK at least. I replaced mine in the summer and paid a lot more for it than I did the first time around. So a new version with similar(ish) specs is OK in my book. Except it isn't released in UK/Ireland yet, and may not be.
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BTW may I ask why you needed a replacement for? Generally it is the battery that wears and ... tears eventually, but it's easy/cheap to replace. Have you experienced another one of your components going bad?
I put some huge scratches into the (soft glass) screen which I couldn't live with. The battery life was bad too. Much better in the new one. Screen protector mandatory IME.
I was worried about the reduced screen resolution, but I haven't noticed a difference at all. I was especially worried about how the resolution might affect the clarity of handwriting with the s-pen, but that has not be a problem at all. After more than a month with it I am totally satisfied.
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I was worried about the reduced screen resolution, but I haven't noticed a difference at all. I was especially worried about how the resolution might affect the clarity of handwriting with the s-pen, but that has not be a problem at all. After more than a month with it I am totally satisfied.
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Cliemonster - can you answer Steve's SoT question (above). I returned my Tab A (for reasons unrelated to dissatisfaction).
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Cliemonster - can you answer Steve's SoT question (above). I returned my Tab A (for reasons unrelated to dissatisfaction).
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Sorry for the late reply! The holidays are always a busy time. On days with heavy use, which for me means several hours of note taking via S-note, emails, a good hour or so of ebook reading, reading through the Wall Street Journal for the day, etc, I usually don't fall below 50%. I don't do a lot of streaming video, so I can't comment on that, although I do watch Grand Tour on Amazon Prime on my tablet and for an hour show it doesn't seem to bleed the battery dry. I'll check the exact usage next time I watch an episode.
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Just wishing if somebody could make a port of tab A 10.1 rom for note 10.1 2014. But I know its practically impossible. So, just a wish.
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I have been absolutely in love with my Note 2014 since I bought it, and with the help of this forum has been just about the perfect tablet for the last couple of years. But the battery has been struggling lately, and then a little while ago the s-pen broke, and it was impossible to find an OEM replacement. The crappy knock-off s-pen I was able to find online was pretty much unusable, and since I use my Note for handwritten notes and documents almost exclusively, took all of the fun out of the tablet for me. So I went looking for a replacement. I thought about just getting a new Note 2014 off amazon, but I thought it might be good to get something that will run 6.0+. I tried the Nvidia Shield K1, since it has a stylus, but I returned that after just a couple of days. The stylus was terrible, and palm rejection was spotty at best. Then I started looking at the Tab A 10.1 with an S-pen. I was concerned about the resolution mostly, but I went ahead and bought it. Initially, I thought I had made another mistake. The new Samsung Notes app just flat out stinks. Its trying to be an Evernote, and by trying that lost everything that made S-Note such a great program for me. I was about ready to return the Tab and just go back to my dying Note 10.1 when I stumbled across the apk for the updated S-Note. Installed that and I am happy as a clam! Quite a few improvements over the Note 10.1 version, but it imported all my old notes perfectly. I love the new s-pen functionality, and the resolution has not bothered me near as much as I thought it would. I'm sure if I took my Note out and laid them side by side I would notice the difference, but for my use it has not detracted from the tablet at all. The main complaint I have, and that others have made, is that for some ridiculous reason Samsung chose to put the speakers on the same side. That's ok if you are using the tablet in portrait, but who watches any kind of media with the tablet in portrait. So in landscape all the sound comes from the same side. Baffling. But other that that, it has been a great replacement for the Note 10.1. At lease until Samsung gets a clue and comes out with a Note 10.1 2017 edition!
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Can we ask any developer to make a rom from tab a 10.1 2016 with s pen to note 10.1 2014.
Not a great advance in the state of art
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I have been absolutely in love with my Note 2014 since I bought it, and with the help of this forum has been just about the perfect tablet for the last couple of years. But the battery has been struggling lately, and then a little while ago the s-pen broke, and it was impossible to find an OEM replacement. The crappy knock-off s-pen I was able to find online was pretty much unusable, and since I use my Note for handwritten notes and documents almost exclusively, took all of the fun out of the tablet for me. So I went looking for a replacement. I thought about just getting a new Note 2014 off amazon, but I thought it might be good to get something that will run 6.0+. I tried the Nvidia Shield K1, since it has a stylus, but I returned that after just a couple of days. The stylus was terrible, and palm rejection was spotty at best. Then I started looking at the Tab A 10.1 with an S-pen. I was concerned about the resolution mostly, but I went ahead and bought it. Initially, I thought I had made another mistake. The new Samsung Notes app just flat out stinks. Its trying to be an Evernote, and by trying that lost everything that made S-Note such a great program for me. I was about ready to return the Tab and just go back to my dying Note 10.1 when I stumbled across the apk for the updated S-Note. Installed that and I am happy as a clam! Quite a few improvements over the Note 10.1 version, but it imported all my old notes perfectly. I love the new s-pen functionality, and the resolution has not bothered me near as much as I thought it would. I'm sure if I took my Note out and laid them side by side I would notice the difference, but for my use it has not detracted from the tablet at all. The main complaint I have, and that others have made, is that for some ridiculous reason Samsung chose to put the speakers on the same side. That's ok if you are using the tablet in portrait, but who watches any kind of media with the tablet in portrait. So in landscape all the sound comes from the same side. Baffling. But other that that, it has been a great replacement for the Note 10.1. At lease until Samsung gets a clue and comes out with a Note 10.1 2017 edition!
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I have managed to get a new battery installed in the Note 10.1 2014 and my stylus is still in a great condition. This morning, the tablet got one of the very rare software updates (mostly security, I would think), but it likely indicates that Samsung has not entirely abandoned it. The processor is still quite fast.
https://www.neowin.net/news/samsung-likely-to-reveal-snapdragon-835-powered-galaxy-tab-s4-at-mwc
This is to soon idk why Samsung didn't wait till fall or next Spring and make it with a 845, The S3 is only a year old. I guess this is for people who have a older tablet like the original S or maybe S2. I don't see a reason to upgrade even if i had the money too, i replaced my Nexus 9 with the S3 and i love it. Don't get me wrong i thought i'd never replace my N9 but it had its faults like freezing/locking up and it lagged, screen had a slight case of pulsating light from the screen. All of which don't exist with my new S3 not to mention double the Ram and updated CPU.
I think they're more likely to introduce a replacement for the Tab A. The Tab S3 wasn't so much of a hit that they would feel the need to follow up on it so soon. AT&T didn't even have a version of the LTE, and no major retailer stocked the 825. I had to buy the verizon 827 and change the network settings.
If the leak is correct (always big IF), looks like it could be an upgrade for the original Tab S (10.5" and 16:10 ratio). In that case, I've got no buyers' remorse with the Tab S3. I very much prefer the 4:3 factor over my old Tab S. A 4:3 10.5" Tab S4 though would probably and shamelessly lead me to upgrade...
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If the leak is correct (always big IF), looks like it could be an upgrade for the original Tab S (10.5" and 16:10 ratio). In that case, I've got no buyers' remorse with the Tab S3. I very much prefer the 4:3 factor over my old Tab S. A 4:3 10.5" Tab S4 though would probably and shamelessly lead me to upgrade...
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Agree i much prefer the 4:3 ratio on a tablet.
Nope, no new tablets
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Nope, no new tablets
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Better to have no new tablets than a disaster like the S3...
Anyway the speculation is that all android OEMs are going to launch devices once Chrome OS for tablets gets announced.
Typically in the past, one or two months before a new tablet is announced full specs and pics have already leaked. This means that it's unlikely that the Tab S4 is announced before that happens.
After 12 months my contract with isp will end and i will get s4 or s5 if it get out at that time. Right now my s3 rock my world!
$600 will be a tough sell when the iPad is $399
coming soon!
https://www.sammobile.com/2018/05/02/galaxy-tab-s4-release-may-not-be-that-far-off/
they still couldnt resolve the issue of S Note and the disaster that's Samsung Notes. They created a writing capable Note and made it a disaster! & they want to launch a new 1 with the same issue <eyesroll>
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they still couldnt resolve the issue of S Note and the disaster that's Samsung Notes. They created a writing capable Note and made it a disaster! & they want to launch a new 1 with the same issue <eyesroll>
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lol true
but i wish they would release Sammy would release it quick, just the same.
really coming soon!
"As release nears, Samsung's Galaxy Tab S4 gets certified in Russia"
https://www.gsmarena.com/as_release...ab_s4_gets_certified_in_russia-news-31046.php
AM Radio said:
coming soon!
https://www.sammobile.com/2018/05/02/galaxy-tab-s4-release-may-not-be-that-far-off/
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Yes, I think that this is a safe bet. My guess, it is going to be some time in the summer. The specs look good
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Yes, I think that this is a safe bet. My guess, it is going to be some time in the summer. The specs look good
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as an upgrade to the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014, definitely. looking forward to an AMOLED screen at that resolution, plus improved S-Pen. just hope Samsung doesn't screw the pooch.
the OTHER thing i'm hoping for though? maybe Samsung pulls an Acer, and makes the Tab S4 with ChromeOS.
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as an upgrade to the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014, definitely. looking forward to an AMOLED screen at that resolution, plus improved S-Pen. just hope Samsung doesn't screw the pooch.
the OTHER thing i'm hoping for though? maybe Samsung pulls an Acer, and makes the Tab S4 with ChromeOS.
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Well, there is also Huawei's MediaPad M5 10 Pro, with the M-pen. This comes with a nice keyboard cover as well. Thus, Samsung is going to have some competition in Android Tablets supporting pens.
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Well, there is also Huawei's MediaPad M5 10 Pro, with the M-pen. This comes with a nice keyboard cover as well. Thus, Samsung is going to have some competition in Android Tablets supporting pens.
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agreed. one thing i saw in a review: the PRO version has a slightly blurrier screen vs the non-pro. something to do with the extra layer for Pen sensitivity.
thing is right now if you need an high-end Android tablet, you're kind of in limbo between the S4, whenever that is; the S3, which has a processor that is looking less appealing with each passing month; and Huawei M5 Pro, which was announced two months ago or something, but still can't be bought in Canada/US (outside of eBay).
that said, the Tab S3 keeps fluctuating in price, with Samsung floating the $100 instant rebate every other month it seems. can get the S3 again for $450 USD from B&H right now. drop it another $50, throw in the keyboard case, and i'm in.
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agreed. one thing i saw in a review: the PRO version has a slightly blurrier screen vs the non-pro. something to do with the extra layer for Pen sensitivity.
thing is right now if you need an high-end Android tablet, you're kind of in limbo between the S4, whenever that is; the S3, which has a processor that is looking less appealing with each passing month; and Huawei M5 Pro, which was announced two months ago or something, but still can't be bought in Canada/US (outside of eBay).
that said, the Tab S3 keeps fluctuating in price, with Samsung floating the $100 instant rebate every other month it seems. can get the S3 again for $450 USD from B&H right now. drop it another $50, throw in the keyboard case, and i'm in.
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I have the Tab S3 and it is an excellent tablet. Most of the issues there are ones of software, not hardware, although some elements of the Samsung Experience should have been better to allow for better multitasking. In addition, if the tablet was somewhat longer (10.8 inches, for example), it would have allowed the keyboard to be more spacious. The keyboard badly needs an "Escape" key, which it does not have. Yes, this tablet could have used a faster processor, that's for sure.
My Note 10 holds a charge for about 15 minutes. Not really worth a new battery, and I want an LTE radio. The S3 is getting old at this point, and Samsung support for it is probably about at an end. I at least want a chance at getting Android Praline. I gifted my mother an iPad, and it was nice, but I am entirely in the Google ecosystem.
I just wish they would make a clean system with S-pen capabilities on top. Based on my experience with the Note 10, I have never bought a Samsung phone. I can live with the junk piled up in a tablet, but not on a phone.