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Taking Back And Waiting A Month.

Since they just announced the pre-order and release date for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 I decided to take my regular 10.1 back, since i'm still within my 30 day return period.
Really excited for the new one with all the upgrades. Having a SD card slot, 2 speakers on the front of the Tab and adding IR so I can control my home theater components, and getting official ICS on it. I can't wait.
Pre-order May 7th, release date on the 22nd.
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HotInEER said:
Since they just announced the pre-order and release date for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 I decided to take my regular 10.1 back, since i'm still within my 30 day return period.
Really excited for the new one with all the upgrades. Having a SD card slot, 2 speakers on the front of the Tab and adding IR so I can control my home theater components, and getting official ICS on it. I can't wait.
Pre-order May 7th, release date on the 22nd.
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how much is it?
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JuLes' MostWanted said:
how much is it?
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$399
10 char

ezcats said:
$399
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wtf??? 399.
worth a trade lmfao
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HotInEER said:
Really excited for the new one with all the upgrades.
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It's actually a downgrade, not an upgrade. It's thicker and heavier which means that either the components were changed or the design has been changed to make it cheaper to build. There's no flash on the camera either. It's got an OMAP chip vs. Teg2 so it's pretty much a lateral move but I'm sure the OMAP will be better at local video playback (anything would). The SD card's a benefit but ICS is a wash since the orignal G-Tab will get it (eventually) too. The 8GB is supposed to be $399 while the 16GB will be $449 so it's still no bargain.

wr should think about getting the note 10.1 everything is better there
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wr should think about getting the note 10.1 everything is better there
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That's what I'm waiting for. I love my 3G Tab and the only thing that (for me) needs improvement is a more powerful processor. For taking notes and such at work the S-Pen's also a cool and practical feature. It's been delayed until June so Samsung can put a new quad-core Exynos SoC in and I'm hoping they bump up the display resolution while they're at it.

I'm in a similar predicament. I want to get the Galaxy tab but now with Tab 2 launching i'm not sure if it's a wise decision. I feel like I will have buyers remorse if I buy the Galaxy tab 2 just because it has older components and a step backwards. Galaxy Note 10.1 won't arrive till June if its not pushed back (high possibility of delays). The Transformer Prime was another Tablet I was looking at but with the wifi and gps issues not too sure about Asus. So now sadly, I may look at the new iPad. Anyone else have any other suggestions?

crazydeo said:
I'm in a similar predicament. I want to get the Galaxy tab but now with Tab 2 launching i'm not sure if it's a wise decision. I feel like I will have buyers remorse if I buy the Galaxy tab 2 just because it has older components and a step backwards. Galaxy Note 10.1 won't arrive till June if its not pushed back (high possibility of delays). The Transformer Prime was another Tablet I was looking at but with the wifi and gps issues not too sure about Asus. So now sadly, I may look at the new iPad. Anyone else have any other suggestions?
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You can pre-order both the Acer A510 and new non-Prime Transformer (TF300) that has a plastic back cover and shouldn't have wireless issues. They're $449 and $399 respectively with the Acer being the more upscale of the two. Asus' build quality and QC have been sketchy and I haven't really followed Acer to offer any opinion. Costco's got some good deals on the G-Tab 1 and a ninety day return policy which should fall in to the launch timeframe for the Note.

Yeah in a lot of ways, the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 is a DOWNGRADE over the original GT 10.1. The SD card slot is nice, but when you think about it, you can just get a 32 GB Tab 10.1 and be fine. I like the new placement of the speakers, but that's about it. Front facing camera is only VGA. No flash for the rear camera. Thicker and cheaper build quality. Same PLS screen, same res, same processor speed. The original 10.1 with the Tegra 2 would be better for gaming, while the OMAP should be better for HD vid watching. Although I have to say, if you encode a 720p file properly, it looks great on the Tab and plays really well. You don't need to play 1080p on these things.
If I didn't have a tablet right now and was looking to invest 400 dollars for a high-end one, I would honestly wait a few months. I'd wait either for the upgraded Transformer Prime with the higher res. screen and no GPS/WiFI issues, the Acer, the Galaxy Note 10.1, or even whatever quadcore Exynos Tab Samsung is working on at the moment.
Besides all of that, cheaper 7 inch Tegra 3 tablets are coming soon. Now is not a good time to be tablet shopping.

When I looked at the size and weight, and it was almost the same. From what I've read it's the same height and width, only 3 or 4 more ounces. Not a dramatic difference in weight. Hopefully, they kept the same shape and dimensions
so it will fit in my Galaxy Tab Book Cover Case.
I know there was no real upgrade in terms of specs, but, the additions they did make was huge to me. Adding ICS, something the previous Tab will probably not get, and if it does, it will be several months away. I had a ICS rom on mine and it was nice, but, lacking in some areas of true ICS. I like the speakers on the front at the top and bottom better than on the sides. It should make a huge difference when watching movies or listening to music. You can thank the German courts for this and Apple. Throw in the fact they added a space for SD card storage to expand, IR capabilities, will be great controlling my Home Theater components and it's a winner to me at the $399 price tag.
If it was higher than that, I would say no, but, at this price point, it's nice.

MMcCraryNJ said:
Yeah in a lot of ways, the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 is a DOWNGRADE over the original GT 10.1. The SD card slot is nice, but when you think about it, you can just get a 32 GB Tab 10.1 and be fine. I like the new placement of the speakers, but that's about it. Front facing camera is only VGA. No flash for the rear camera. Thicker and cheaper build quality. Same PLS screen, same res, same processor speed. The original 10.1 with the Tegra 2 would be better for gaming, while the OMAP should be better for HD vid watching. Although I have to say, if you encode a 720p file properly, it looks great on the Tab and plays really well. You don't need to play 1080p on these things.
If I didn't have a tablet right now and was looking to invest 400 dollars for a high-end one, I would honestly wait a few months. I'd wait either for the upgraded Transformer Prime with the higher res. screen and no GPS/WiFI issues, the Acer, the Galaxy Note 10.1, or even whatever quadcore Exynos Tab Samsung is working on at the moment.
Besides all of that, cheaper 7 inch Tegra 3 tablets are coming soon. Now is not a good time to be tablet shopping.
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Sadly, I think you are right. I will have to be patient and wait and see what happens next. I guess with Google IO coming up soon the emphasis will be completely on JellyBean and ICS will be obsolete already by the time summer comes around.

HotInEER said:
When I looked at the size and weight, and it was almost the same. From what I've read it's the same height and width, only 3 or 4 more ounces. Not a dramatic difference in weight. Hopefully, they kept the same shape and dimensions
so it will fit in my Galaxy Tab Book Cover Case.
I know there was no real upgrade in terms of specs, but, the additions they did make was huge to me. Adding ICS, something the previous Tab will probably not get, and if it does, it will be several months away. I had a ICS rom on mine and it was nice, but, lacking in some areas of true ICS. I like the speakers on the front at the top and bottom better than on the sides. It should make a huge difference when watching movies or listening to music. You can thank the German courts for this and Apple. Throw in the fact they added a space for SD card storage to expand, IR capabilities, will be great controlling my Home Theater components and it's a winner to me at the $399 price tag.
If it was higher than that, I would say no, but, at this price point, it's nice.
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The original Tab 10.1 is getting ICS. Samsung have confirmed it at several different points in time. WHEN will we get it, that's another story, but it's coming. It's being worked on. They even said that it was number 2 on the their priority list, right behind the GS II which has already started it's ICS rollout globally. It can't be that far away
So if you factor out ICS as an advantage (which you should), the only two things the Tab 2 has over the Tab 1 are the modified speaker positions and debatably the microSD storage (I say that because the storage sizes are halved on the Tab 2). Everything else that's different on the Tab 2 is a disadvantage.
Sorry to say, but it's the truth. And that 399 price point doesn't make it any easier to swallow, especially when you consider that if you can be patient for another couple of months, you'll have a huge selection of Tegra 3 tablets at all different sizes, all different price points, made by different companies.
Believe me, I'm not hating here. I got my Tab 10.1 last July and I absolutely love it. But right now, if 300 or 400 is my sweet spot for a tablet, I'm holding off for a couple of months. The Tab 2 isn't worth that.

BarryH_GEG said:
It's actually a downgrade, not an upgrade. It's thicker and heavier which means that either the components were changed or the design has been changed to make it cheaper to build. There's no flash on the camera either. It's got an OMAP chip vs. Teg2 so it's pretty much a lateral move but I'm sure the OMAP will be better at local video playback (anything would). The SD card's a benefit but ICS is a wash since the orignal G-Tab will get it (eventually) too. The 8GB is supposed to be $399 while the 16GB will be $449 so it's still no bargain.
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Yeah in a lot of ways, the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 is a DOWNGRADE over the original GT 10.1. The SD card slot is nice, but when you think about it, you can just get a 32 GB Tab 10.1 and be fine. I like the new placement of the speakers, but that's about it. Front facing camera is only VGA. No flash for the rear camera. Thicker and cheaper build quality. Same PLS screen, same res, same processor speed. The original 10.1 with the Tegra 2 would be better for gaming, while the OMAP should be better for HD vid watching. Although I have to say, if you encode a 720p file properly, it looks great on the Tab and plays really well. You don't need to play 1080p on these things.
If I didn't have a tablet right now and was looking to invest 400 dollars for a high-end one, I would honestly wait a few months. I'd wait either for the upgraded Transformer Prime with the higher res. screen and no GPS/WiFI issues, the Acer, the Galaxy Note 10.1, or even whatever quadcore Exynos Tab Samsung is working on at the moment.
Besides all of that, cheaper 7 inch Tegra 3 tablets are coming soon. Now is not a good time to be tablet shopping.
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH...wow!!! effing samsung..
screw this..selling it and getting the asus prime

I would also hold off for the note 10.1... Better hardware AND the s-pen will give it functionality that no other tab has. I have tried the regular note (5.3) and the pen works very well, very cool to jot down stuff quickly or to add comments/notes to documents.

Now they are saying they halted production of the Tab 2 for some upgrades. One of them being a quad core processor with their latest chip.
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I bet they are having problems they will have a even bigger one if they don't get there arses into first gear people will migrate to other tablets.This is just another sorry excuse to buy some more time which they dont have and now where does this leave those of us waiting for ic4.0 to come to 10.1 user?

HotInEER said:
Now they are saying they halted production of the Tab 2 for some upgrades. One of them being a quad core processor with their latest chip.
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I read that also... it definitely has me wondering if this will delay us OG Tab owners from getting the ICS update in May. I have no doubt that the appeal of ICS is a selling point for Samsung and potential Tab-2 customers might settle for the original tab if it gets ICS prior to the release of the Tab-2.

Joe T said:
I read that also... it definitely has me wondering if this will delay us OG Tab owners from getting the ICS update in May. I have no doubt that the appeal of ICS is a selling point for Samsung and potential Tab-2 customers might settle for the original tab if it gets ICS prior to the release of the Tab-2.
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Probably. That's why I took mine back.
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I'm keeping my 10.1 4G, which it bought used for less than $300. I'll probably still get the GT 2 7.0 for $250 though, since it's wifi only.

Do you regret buying a Galaxy Note?

So, with all of the fuss around the Galaxy S3, potentially a new iPhone and other quad-core phones bustling out onto the market, I have had one or two people ask me as to whether or not I regret purchasing a Galaxy Note considering that it only features a dual-core processor and may not even get Jelly Bean unlike S3 which is almost guaranteed to. So, do you regret purchasing the Note and wished you'd gotten an S3/other device instead or not? I, personally, love my Galaxy Note. I couldn't afford both a tablet and phone, so this fills that gap perfectly. The S3 has admittedly got better processing power, but the Note is still the only phone which has true 1080P resolution screen (as far as I am aware).

Brad387 said:
So, with all of the fuss around the Galaxy S3, potentially a new iPhone and other quad-core phones bustling out onto the market, I have had one or two people ask me as to whether or not I regret purchasing a Galaxy Note considering that it only features a dual-core processor and may not even get Jelly Bean unlike S3 which is almost guaranteed to. So, do you regret purchasing the Note and wished you'd gotten an S3/other device instead or not? I, personally, love my Galaxy Note. I couldn't afford both a tablet and phone, so this fills that gap perfectly. The S3 has admittedly got better processing power, but the Note is still the only phone which has true 1080P resolution screen (as far as I am aware).
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Not a bit. I came from a SGS2, and haven't looked back. And what's this rubbish about not getting JB? We'll have JB quite soon; have you seen the news about CM10?
Note is not 1080p (1920x1080), it's 1280x800, which is still great. It has a higher pixel density than the iPad3.

If I had known 'bout the emmc brick bug, I may have bought a nexus.
I mean it does get updates super fast and all.
But weather I regret it or not,
well I don't.

Nope, best phone I've ever owned. Imported from Germany as soon as available for way too much.
Fast, beautiful screen and great size. I actually wouldn't mind a bit bigger. I hope they don't muck up version 2 too much.

My only regret on the Note is the EMMC bug. I mean, what the heck! we paid the phone more than 700usd when it was released and we get a bug in the official firmware that can brick this expensive phone for good!! This is completely unacceptable....but I will still get the Note 2 just because of the large screen!

The Note can be compared ONLY to another Galaxy Note, which does not exist.
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Not at all. No other phone has 5,3" amoled screen - i dont really care about quad-core, dual core is enough at the moment for me.

Brick bug is the only flaw with this entire device.

Dungeon47 said:
Not a bit. I came from a SGS2, and haven't looked back. And what's this rubbish about not getting JB? We'll have JB quite soon; have you seen the news about CM10?
Note is not 1080p (1920x1080), it's 1280x800, which is still great. It has a higher pixel density than the iPad3.
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Don´t regret it one bit,all this rubbish that its to big and won´t fit in your pocket is just bul***it,had it in ever paar of jeans I own with no probs.Used to own a HTC HD2(r.i.p:cryingwhen that came out it was the biggest phone on the market at that time and now.....its standard with the size and now when I get a phone that size I think...hmmm...a bit small Software,ok a few problems to begin with but now with 4.0.4,TOP :good: Played with an S3 for a while but it didn´t turn me on a bit were as with the Note...100% pure sex
The Note has a resolution from 1280x800 but records at 1920x1080 and has a max. video output of 1920x1080 full HD.

Da mOnKeY said:
Don´t regret it one bit,all this rubbish that its to big and won´t fit in your pocket is just bul***it,had it in ever paar of jeans I own with no probs.Used to own a HTC HD2(r.i.p:cryingwhen that came out it was the biggest phone on the market at that time and now.....its standard with the size and now when I get a phone that size I think...hmmm...a bit small Software,ok a few problems to begin with but now with 4.0.4,TOP :good: Played with an S3 for a while but it didn´t turn me on a bit were as with the Note...100% pure sex
The Note has a resolution from 1280x800 but records at 1920x1080 and has a max. video output of 1920x1080 full HD.
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I never have a problem putting it into my pockets (normal fitting jeans) and sometimes carry 2 phones in the same pocket at the same time (Note plus either the Epic 4G/Nexus S 4G).
LOVE my Note. I've been owning it for over 4 months now and it still runs just as good as the day I bought it and I'm still on GB (stock but rooted). Heck it has been so good even while stock, I still run TW launcher! I also own a Nexus S 4G and Epic 4G (on Sprint, work phones) and I still default to my Note for just about anything that I don't do on my laptop. I also own an HP Touchpad (bought during the firesale has WebOS and CM on it) and ever since I've had the Note, I rarely use it, now mainly my kids play with it. The Note truly is the best all-in-one device. The only thing is the eMMC bug which I've hesitated updating to ICS, but even on GB it does everything I need it to do. If/when Sprint carries the Note 2, then I'll upgrade then. Heck I am already upgrade eligible on Sprint, but rumors of a Note 2 announcement on August 30 is making me sit on my upgrade until a Note 2 is released on Sprint.

Nope. Best device I've ever owned.
Never going back to CDMA, either. Love the flexibility GSM affords me.
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If you're going to regret buying something because something (arguably) better gets released 8 months later,
then you might as well not buy anything at all.
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You kind of had to know before hand that purchasing this would be outdated slightly since the s3 was due out for five months down the line. Plus Samsung treats the galaxy note line as if it were a [email protected]@rd orphan child that gets it hand me down.
It's a bigger phone so give me better specs dammit.
The firmware update mishaps , crappy battery ... need I say more?
It would be hilarious if the owners of xda launched a public service announcement national commercial listing evening wrong with the galaxy note.
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.... If I were to change the note.... Longer battery life, maybe, more accurate pen in horizontal position, camera button, less mega pixel camera with bigger photo receptors, pen out light, more ram, and steel case to attach a chain to it so people can't ever steal my awesome awesome phone/star trek Data pad.
I'm future proof until 3d ar glasses come out.

Not even for a second, quad core phones are useless really, im glad things are moving forward and eventually quadcore will be utilized, but the only thing that could possible use al that processing power on phones is games, and there isn't asingle game out there tha exclusively for the power of quadcore, all the high spec games run fine on dualcore phones. So im not in any rush to upgrade ill upgrade after 12 months of having the note which is december. Hopefully the note 2 :-D

Alexanderbooth said:
Not even for a second, quad core phones are useless really, im glad things are moving forward and eventually quadcore will be utilized, but the only thing that could possible use al that processing power on phones is games, and there isn't asingle game out there tha exclusively for the power of quadcore, all the high spec games run fine on dualcore phones. So im not in any rush to upgrade ill upgrade after 12 months of having the note which is december. Hopefully the note 2 :-D
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I won't be upgrading the Note till mid-2013 roughly, but I love my Note too so no worries.

I regret reading and replying to this thread.

Yes I do, for the simple reason that as soon as I went an bought mine, Samsung announced its successor, thereby making me spend more on the older model than I need have, and preventing me from buying the new one as soon as it comes out.:crying:
But then that's just how my luck runs.
C'est la vie....

I bought the note three weeks ago, so way after the s3 announcement. Had the s2 up to then. Made the choice because the s3 does not feel or look so nice (imo) and does not feel like a decent upgrade (don't get me wrong I do think it's the best phone out there, just not a huge upgrade to the s2).
The Note feels like a true upgrade, despite being basically the same specs, because screeeeeeen
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I bought it since over 7 months now was my first android handset,but still did not grow on me this is at best one laggy OS most probably will get the next iphone but will surely miss both the big screen and the Flash support in the browser.However it was a very interesting experience.

Galaxy note 8.0

Officially announced on their Facebook page, with pix...
Looks like a giant Note II
And here on their home page.
What you guys think? I want one!

Spec wise it's almost identical, so i don't think i would get one. Note 10.1 is enough for me
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I WILL have one.. Oh yes, I will...

It's got the home button from the phone though. That was one of the things that people hated about the Note 2 compared to the Note 1: having to push a mechanical button instead of a capacitive home button meant having to change to a finger push instead of a stylus poke.

The design, at least to me, is kind of stupid. Android on a tablet doesn't do well in portrait and widgets end up squished to fit. Using the Note 8 in landscape is going to be challenging because of the button placement and types of buttons Samsung decided to use. And having what appears to be a single front-facing speaker is a step back from the Note 10.1. It's just my opinion but having less than a 10" tablet kind of defeats the purpose especially with S Note and multiview. I'm sure it'll sell well though.
I just hope we get some of the new features like Awesome Note (Samsung has a one year Android exclusive) and the addition of TV Discovery to Peal to pull in Netflix and Hulu content.

I waited for Note 8.0 thinking it would be just like Note 10.1 but smaller. But it is more like a bigger version of Note 2 but with poorer camera. Meh.
Samsung - this is an enlarged phone, not a proper tablet.

I don't have a Note 10.1, since I really don't want to drop 400-500 on a tablet anytime soon as I did with the Thinkpad Tablet, and that was a huge mistake. As far as I've seen, this tablet is a lot better, but I think the price point of this 8.0 tablet might be appealing. We'll see, I guess.
Anyone think a second version of the 10.1 tablet is due as well, in the near future at least?

im still thinking if this will be a good backup phone from the Note 10.1 or i might settle for the Nexus 4. but ever since the rumors about the Note 8 came out, i am so into it.
we will see when it is out in stores.
=)

BarryH_GEG said:
Using the Note 8 in landscape is going to be challenging because of the button placement and types of buttons Samsung decided to use. And having what appears to be a single front-facing speaker is a step back from the Note 10.1.
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Its a giant note2 who wanna be a note 10.1
It have phone capabilities thats why the front facing speaker and the use of the buttons
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Would love to know that the reading mode would do to the screen

Well the Note 8.0 solves THE big knock on the Note 10.1 - lousy PPI. Because of the smaller form factor the PPI goes up by almost 50 points. That's enough to make a real difference. Also thumb typing in portrait will be much more comfortable. It will also have a large enough screen to handwrite in portrait (unlike the Note 2).
One side benefit of this is that the Note 10.1 will get cheaper. BestBuy has it for $449 today. First time I've seen it on sale there.
Last point. Note 10.1 will now get better software.
I expect the Note 8.0 to be wildly popular and honestly the tablet the Note 10.1 was meant to be.

MWC is on so keep your favorite tech sites bookmarked and check them frequently for all the mobile news out of Spain this week. 7-inch tablets will be big this year. Today, Engadget is reporting on 3 new 7-inchers being shown at MWC--1 by HP that will be priced at $169 USD (not breathtaking specs on it) and 2 by Lenovo. It will be interesting to see if a 3G international version of the note 8 with dialing capabilities will be announced at the official unveiling at MWC. As many have noted, the speaker placement looks similar to the note 2, leading to speculation that some models might have phone capabilities.

I don't see a point why a Note 10.1 user should consider buying this tablet. Of course, dpi is lousy and i won't deny it, it just sucks. But that's one point - the Note 10.1 is a full-fledged android tablet. Landscape oriented, great software, enough power to maintain the upcoming years and some great features like stereo frontfacing speakers.
The Note 8.0 is a LOT more specified and in my opinion it wants to appeal a bit more professional users than most who bought the Note 10.1. I bought it for studying, it'll do a great job then. But i also wanted a multimedia tablet i can use at home, i think the Note 8.0 will have difficulties in that. It's too much different from standard android tablets.
I hoped for the Note 10.1 to get cheaper before i bought it (i waited for almost 2 months) but finally couldn't resist it anymore. I wouldn't buy the Note 8.0 anyway.

MWC is on so keep your favorite tech sites bookmarked and check them frequently for all the mobile news out of Spain this week. 7-inch tablets will be big this year. Today, Engadget is reporting on 3 new 7-inchers being shown at MWC--1 by HP that will be priced at $169 USD (not breathtaking specs on it) and 2 by Lenovo. It will be interesting to see if a 3G international version of the note 8 with dialing capabilities will be announced at the official unveiling at MWC. As many have noted, the speaker placement looks similar to the note 2, leading to speculation that some models might have phone capabilities.
Alright I didn't read Engadet yesterday afternoon and noe see that they've got a preview if the note 8 up and the internaltional 3G version will be able to make phone calls. The article contains a video, too. http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/23/samsung-galaxy-note-8-preview/

I hate that they put the speakers on the bottom?

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It have phone capabilities thats why the front facing speaker and the use of the buttons
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The Wi-Fi version won't and the U.S. and Canada won't be offered a 3G version. And probably in the countries that offer both more than half sold will be Wi-Fi only because people don’t want to have to buy 3G data. The N8000's a phone too but still survives without looking like a giant Note II including hard and soft buttons that are difficult to use in landscape and a single speaker. Do you honestly see anyone with a Note 8 holding it to their ear for phone calls?
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I expect the Note 8.0 to be wildly popular and honestly the tablet the Note 10.1 was meant to be.
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It's just the classic comparison of a 7/8" tablet vs. a 10" tablet. It's no different than comparing the N7 and N10; they are meant for two different market segments. The Note 8's going after the iPad Mini, not the Note 10.1. I agree about the better PPI between the Note 8 and 10 but because of the extra screen real estate you'd typically hold the Note 10 further away minimizing the impact. 10" high-end Android tablets have never sold particularly well because their price points are too close to the iPad and with that the masses tend to go for the original. If I was shopping for a tablet today I'd still buy the Note 10.1 in spite of its PPI because of its features. I like that it's designed to be used in landscape and the extra display space makes productivity stuff tons easier than working with a 7/8" tablet. But, to your point, based on size, price, and volume in the 7/8" space the Note 8 will easily outsell the Note 10.1. And I don't think Samsung cares one way or the other. The only thing I'll give my Note 10.1 up for is a Note the same size or larger with a FHD display. Purely my personal opinion of course.

Its pretty much the same tablet. Ill wait another year or atleast until tech advances enough to justify dropping another 500+ for a tablet. And when that happens, it will probably be a nexus :laugh:

I also find the resolution on the Samsung devices pretty poor :crying: I wish Samsung would bump them up!

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I also find the resolution on the Samsung devices pretty poor :crying: I wish Samsung would bump them up!
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higher dpi sounds great, just remember it means more work for the battery and cpu, I believe the wacom digitizer and resolution need to match also. personally I cannot sacrifice screen real estate, annotating blue prints requires a large screen for me. would love something in the 11.6 range. but I do believe they have different audiences, (I never believe in a one size fits all approach) probably get the little lady one, call it the " lady note"

I only want one cuz it's sexy. That and I'm a sucker for ads lol.
Realistically this could never replace my Note 10.1.

Any news about the new note 10.1 tablet?

The note 4 is out so I think that it is the next in line....
Any news guys?

I hope not! Releasing another note will make it that much easier for Samsung not update our tablet

They will I reckon but maybe in a couple of months time. Will be suprised if they don't ... All Samsung are doing at the bloody minute is releasing anything and everything.

md1008 said:
I hope not! Releasing another note will make it that much easier for Samsung not update our tablet
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I agree. Even without releasing new tablet, samsung (seems) already abandon the note 2014 users in Europe....

I don't think they will launch a new one. It already exists tab4 series and our tablet still carry the 2014 name, I guess maybe in January or February.

I don't think it will be until next year. The note 10.1 runs the same base platform as tab 's and tab pro. I reckon 1q15

I think it may change to SuperAMOLED screen for the next 10 incher note from Samsung.

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I think it may change to SuperAMOLED screen for the next 10 incher note from Samsung.
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AMOLED sucks on whites and most productivity and creation apps use light backgrounds. Here's the battery life of the S' on light backgrounds. I'll pass.

BarryH_GEG said:
AMOLED sucks on whites and most productivity and creation apps use light backgrounds. Here's the battery life of the S' on light backgrounds. I'll pass.
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Personally I will be willing to take the hit. My battery life on the Note 10.1 is more than enough for me ... I regularly top it up anyway and never too far from a power socket. But yeah the screen on the S is truely amazing if you ask me, the one thing I hate on the hardware side of our tablet is at night the blacks are terrible! I'm just used to my S3 blacks tbh. Anyhoo not that it matters I aint ganna buy a Samsung product anytime soon.

A Note S (actually probably three - 8.4, 10.1, and 12.2) with AMOLED should be next, but I doubt anything will happen before Samsung gets enough 20nm production going for its next-gen Exynos (which appears to be what's hiding inside the non-Qualcomm Note 4).
Also, they may be waiting for Apple's next-gen iPad and/or Android L.

motfis said:
I agree. Even without releasing new tablet, samsung (seems) already abandon the note 2014 users in Europe....
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As soon as the 2014 came out Samsung practically forgot about the OG note 10.1.
Despite lackluster specs it had such potential. Its multitasking capabilities were superior, nav bar was welcomed. Instead a barely supported tablet with oodles of software bugs is it's legacy.
I swore I would never buy Samsung but I really did miss the spen. Only phone/tablet I ever ran stock(on purpose)

@md1008 ... yeah its a joke, I got KitKat few days ago and installed it yesterday. It just feels kinda pointless as Android L is around the corner.
I feel the same with Samsung - Not again.

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As soon as the 2014 came out Samsung practically forgot about the OG note 10.1.
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I wouldn't call bringing the N10.1-12 up to 4.4 "forgetting" it. I had a N10.1-12 before I bought the N10.1-14 when it first came out which means I used it on both 4.3 and 4.4. I'd take either over the N10.1-12. People seem to wax poetic over the N10.1-12 but, at least to me, the N10.1-14 is better in every way. A 147 PPI display is downright painful to use these days. Samsung's policy on backwardly updating their own s/w on older devices when newer versions are released on newer devices (EG: N2 getting N3 features, N10.1-12 getting N10.1-14 features) is simple . They don't. So if that's a big deal to people they either need to live with it or not buy Samsung's products. I doubt it'll change going forward.

Geordie Affy said:
@md1008 ... yeah its a joke, I got KitKat few days ago and installed it yesterday. It just feels kinda pointless as Android L is around the corner.
I feel the same with Samsung - Not again.
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I wouldn't call bringing the N10.1-12 up to 4.4 "forgetting" it. I had a N10.1-12 before I bought the N10.1-14 when it first came out which means I used it on both 4.3 and 4.4. I'd take either over the N10.1-12. People seem to wax poetic over the N10.1-12 but, at least to me, the N10.1-14 is better in every way. A 147 PPI display is downright painful to use these days. Samsung's policy on backwardly updating their own s/w on older devices when newer versions are released on newer devices (EG: N2 getting N3 features, N10.1-12 getting N10.1-14 features) is simple . They don't. So if that's a big deal to people they either need to live with it or not buy Samsung's products. I doubt it'll change going forward.
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The update didn't come for months and I believe the US model did not receive update at least it didn't before I sold it a month or two ago, it was stuck on 4.1.2.
Spec wise the 2014 is far better(as it should be) I did prefer the multi window setup better than post jellybutton and the nav bar is I believe better than the stupid home button. Tablet UI was nice but tablet is no longer supported since kit Kat.
Frankly I thought the note 10.1(2012) could have been great but fell short in so many ways

In the UK the prices of the Note 10.1 2014 Edition have been slashed like crazy. Last week it was selling for £450 and now all major retailers selling for £330! ... and one of the major retailers who is even listed on Samsungs website (John Lewis) no longer even list the Note 10.1 2014 (they had slashed prices too before they took it offline).
Surely this must be signs of a new Note 10.1 in the works. Have prices dropped in US or anywhere else?
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The entry level Samsung tablets had/have sort of an eternal life, with terribly outdated hardware. So why should the Note not last for another year? Currently you could only employ a newer Snapdragon, slighly faster and w/64bit. An OLED i dont consider innovative, just different, with a taste of worse.

None of the 64-bit Snapdragons to date are faster - all are A53 only. I assume we'll get 64-bit Exynos+AMOLED Note refreshes as soon as Samsung's yields on 20nm improve. (The 5433 in the non-Qualcomme Note 4 is A57/A53 at 20nm disguised as a 32 bit processor.)

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None of the 64-bit Snapdragons to date are faster - all are A53 only. I assume we'll get 64-bit Exynos+AMOLED Note refreshes as soon as Samsung's yields on 20nm improve. (The 5433 in the non-Qualcomme Note 4 is A57/A53 at 20nm disguised as a 32 bit processor.)
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Yeah I reckon it will be AMOLED, Metal frame, Note 4 software and S-pen updates.
And obviously faster processor whatever it is.
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I must be jaded, I wouldn't consider another Samsung tablet or phone at this point.
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I must be jaded, I wouldn't consider another Samsung tablet or phone at this point.
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I agree.
Plus this tablet should last another 2 years ... or I'm going to make it last haha.
By then we will hopefully have greater choice of none Samsung devices.

New model on the horizon?

Looking to get a tab s2 9.7 to replace my aging tab s. They seem to be a bit thin on the ground in the UK. Anyone know if an upgrade is around the corner?

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Looking to get a tab s2 9.7 to replace my aging tab s. They seem to be a bit thin on the ground in the UK. Anyone know if an upgrade is around the corner?
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The update happened last year in the shape of the S3 9.7. No update for the S2 8.0 though.

I need to replace my dead Pixel C. My birthday is this week and expect to get a few amazon cards.
Will put this money toward a S2 8.0 tablet (want a smaller form factor than the 10 inch, I think). Mostly for reading news, web browsing and Sonos controller). I won't be pushing it hard.
My plan - if I don't lose willpower - is to wait until March conference where the S9 phone will be presented. Thinking MAYBE they will add a tablet, or two, to be released soon as well. I don't think they will but would hate to buy a tablet next week and less than two months later a new tablet with USB C port, no buttons on the front... gets released.

Your call, obviously, but I would hold off on an S2. It is still a good tablet, but it's now a generation behind and approaching 2 years old. That is generally the end of the line for software support from Samsung, so unless you are comfy switching to Lineage OS (or other custom ROM), that will be it for updates.
That said, I'm not sure there will be another 8" tablet from Samsung. The trend seems to be moving towards 12" Chrome + Android convertibles. If you really want a smaller tablet, the 8" S2 may be your best bet.

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Your call, obviously, but I would hold off on an S2. It is still a good tablet, but it's now a generation behind and approaching 2 years old. That is generally the end of the line for software support from Samsung, so unless you are comfy switching to Lineage OS (or other custom ROM), that will be it for updates.
That said, I'm not sure there will be another 8" tablet from Samsung. The trend seems to be moving towards 12" Chrome + Android convertibles. If you really want a smaller tablet, the 8" S2 may be your best bet.
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Agree with everything you say jshamlet. :highfive:
For me, it all comes down to cost. If the tab S2 8" can be had for £150/$200, I'd still be tempted. There are some other options out there which should be investigated. I bagged a Huawei Mediapad M3 for the Mrs yesterday, brand new for only $200 on newegg.com. Looking forward to see how it compares to my T715 when I see her in March.

Now that I've given it some thought - if any S4's are going to be announced that would be for both sizes. Since the S3 9.7 came out fairly recently, I doubt the S4 is coming now but more likely in September.
There is something going around about a Huawei m5 that is suggested in some code somewhere. Just to put it out there.

RickInHouston said:
Now that I've given it some thought - if any S4's are going to be announced that would be for both sizes. Since the S3 9.7 came out fairly recently, I doubt the S4 is coming now but more likely in September.
There is something going around about a Huawei m5 that is suggested in some code somewhere. Just to put it out there.
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Update: Don't really need the latest and greatest for what I use it for. Decided to get the Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 8 incher. It would be perfect if it didn't have physical buttons. Love the size. Love the screen ratio... It's speedy.

RickInHouston said:
Update: Don't really need the latest and greatest for what I use it for. Decided to get the Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 8 incher. It would be perfect if it didn't have physical buttons. Love the size. Love the screen ratio... It's speedy.
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Well done on the purchase Rick. :highfive:
The screen and weight of the S2 8" is second to none.
There is an app called, "All in one gestures," that can at least swap the order of the capacitive buttons if you want to go for the traditional Android order.
If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay?

RickInHouston said:
Update: Don't really need the latest and greatest for what I use it for. Decided to get the Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 8 incher. It would be perfect if it didn't have physical buttons. Love the size. Love the screen ratio... It's speedy.
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I've had mine a little over 1 year. Use it mainly to read books and newspapers. 8" is the perfect size and 4:3 the perfect ratio for reading, imo.

lmacmil said:
I've had mine a little over 1 year. Use it mainly to read books and newspapers. 8" is the perfect size and 4:3 the perfect ratio for reading, imo.
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Totally agree Imacmil. :highfive:
I use habit browser with a user agent as PC. All webpages therefore render in desktop mode which suites this screen perfectly.
People often complain with this tablet about the small battery but I'm happy as the reduction in weight makes using this a breeze for long periods.
If they ever do bring out a new version, I hope they realise the great stuff about the existing tablet, weight, headphone jack, but address the CPU, RAM and make it USB-C. :victory:

https://www.androidheadlines.com/2018/02/samsung-galaxy-tab-s4-benchmarked-android-8-0-sd835.html