A little news.... Still no sign of Honeycomb source code
http://downloadsquad.switched.com/2011/03/25/google-holds-back-on-open-sourcing-honeycomb-heralds-shift-android/
Google, in an interesting but not entirely unexpected twist, will not be open-sourcing Android 3.0 Honeycomb for the foreseeable future.
Historically, Android is usually open-sourced via the Android Open Source Project (AOSP) a few days or weeks after the code is finalized. While this departure from the norm won't affect OEMs like HTC and Motorola that have access to internal builds of Android, small-time developers will likely have to wait months before rolling their own distributions.
Oh well, time for another cuppa.
just FYI: That's month old news: article date = March 25, 2011 at 07:00 AM
Considering also it says something to the effect of the "bastardization due to home brew" and "massive fragmentation" I have a hard time taking that writer serisouly.
I think there's some massive sensationalism going on
http://briefmobile.com/guaranteed-android-updates-for-18-months
Google announced at I/O that a bunch of partners have agreed to update all devices that are capable to the latest Android version within 18 months! And also ICS is going to be released Q4 this year...
My thought is that Motorola has been waiting on ICS hopefully rather than GB, though either way we'll have ICS before the pseudo-apocalypse!
EDIT: Article has a typo, actual statement was that updates will be guaranteed for all new and capable devices for 18 months.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/05/android-momentum-mobile-and-more-at.html
18 months.. that's more than a year and a half.. lol by that time i'd have a phone that has the latest version :|. possibly an unlocked bootloader as well lol
We've at least been told by Moto that we'll get Gingerbread and an unlocked bootloader this year, and I believe that is still a reasonable claim
Yeah, 18 months to upgrade this thing to 2.3? If they would unlock the phone and release the code it would be done in a few days by the dev community.
KefkaticFanatic said:
http://briefmobile.com/guaranteed-android-updates-for-18-months
Google announced at I/O that a bunch of partners have agreed to update all devices that are capable to the latest Android version within 18 months! And also ICS is going to be released Q4 this year...
My thought is that Motorola has been waiting on ICS hopefully rather than GB, though either way we'll have ICS before the pseudo-apocalypse!
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The key here is "within 18 months"! I believe this offers nothing, as most of us will have moved on to new devices before we have had them for 18 months after release. Now, if they said within 6 months, then we would know that whenever we bought a new device the most we would have to wait for the latest update would be 6 months.
"Good news for Android users waiting for updates: this kind of long wait and anticipation game may finally be over. Google’s announced at I/O 2011 that a plethora of partners (seen above) will be giving the latest Android updates to all devices in the future within eighteen months. The only catch is that updates will be received only “if the device can handle it.”
Sounds like good news for developers worrying about fragmentation. But, users will also be able to reap the benefits as carriers and manufacturers are more forcefully pushed towards updates."
KefkaticFanatic said:
We've at least been told by Moto that we'll get Gingerbread and an unlocked bootloader this year, and I believe that is still a reasonable claim
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not really..
The article is wrong and misquoted the announcement. If you watched the keynote you'd have seen what they really said.
"So today we’re announcing that a founding team of industry leaders, including many from the Open Handset Alliance, are working together to adopt guidelines for how quickly devices are updated after a new platform release, and also for how long they will continue to be updated. The founding partners are Verizon, HTC, Samsung, Sprint, Sony Ericsson, LG, T-Mobile, Vodafone, Motorola and AT&T, and we welcome others to join us. To start, we're jointly announcing that new devices from participating partners will receive the latest Android platform upgrades for 18 months after the device is first released, as long as the hardware allows...and that's just the beginning. Stay tuned for more details."
Updates provided for 18 months, not within 18 months.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/05/android-momentum-mobile-and-more-at.html
CaelanT said:
The key here is "within 18 months"! I believe this offers nothing, as most of us will have moved on to new devices before we have had them for 18 months after release. Now, if they said within 6 months, then we would know that whenever we bought a new device the most we would have to wait for the latest update would be 6 months.
"Good news for Android users waiting for updates: this kind of long wait and anticipation game may finally be over. Google’s announced at I/O 2011 that a plethora of partners (seen above) will be giving the latest Android updates to all devices in the future within eighteen months. The only catch is that updates will be received only “if the device can handle it.”
Sounds like good news for developers worrying about fragmentation. But, users will also be able to reap the benefits as carriers and manufacturers are more forcefully pushed towards updates."
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It's not updating to latest within 18 months...
Its updating to lastest version quickly.. FOR the first 18 months.. so you might get multi updatas in that 18 months.. but arnt promised anything after the phone has been out for 18 months... all in all pretty good news for us though... att and Motorola are partners with google on it.
I'll be happy when I finally get at least ONE "Official update" from Bell. (and more importantly a stock SBF to fall back on already!)
Hopefully Bell can figure out how to do that in 18 months...
shriva said:
It's not updating to latest within 18 months...
Its updating to lastest version quickly.. FOR the first 18 months.. so you might get multi updatas in that 18 months.. but arnt promised anything after the phone has been out for 18 months... all in all pretty good news for us though... att and Motorola are partners with google on it.
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It makes a lot of sense. 18 months is getting close to the life of a phone. So they keep you updated, then make you buy a new one when you can renew your contract.
I guess it works out well for both parties? We get updates frequently for most of the life of our phones, but they still get their upgrades.
Thanks bwshockley for clearing that up!
Heck, they announced. "Ice cream" for Q4 2011.. Atrix may even get that!
Can't wait till they let us know what timely/quickly means though.. but its going in the right direction.. google doing something at least to get them to update quicker.
It also say NEW devices will be supported, that would mean the Atrix would not actually fall under the new guidelines i.e. there would be no guarantee that it'll get Ice Cream Sandwich. Gingerbread is guaranteed only because they specifically stated it a while back, but when is completely up to Moto.
Yea I see. Silly misinterpretation. That's what I get for taking a bagel break away from the live stream!
However, I still believe that we'll get GB and perhaps even ICS by the end of this year. And if not, the bootloader will hopefully be unlocked so we won't have to worry about it.
Yeah I don't see them waiting for ICS to do a version upgrade, by then, a fair amount of people will have looked at other devices.
1/5 stars for misinformation. Please update op to say this is speculation.
bwshockley said:
The article is wrong and misquoted the announcement. If you watched the keynote you'd have seen what they really said.
"So today we’re announcing that a founding team of industry leaders, including many from the Open Handset Alliance, are working together to adopt guidelines for how quickly devices are updated after a new platform release, and also for how long they will continue to be updated. The founding partners are Verizon, HTC, Samsung, Sprint, Sony Ericsson, LG, T-Mobile, Vodafone, Motorola and AT&T, and we welcome others to join us. To start, we're jointly announcing that new devices from participating partners will receive the latest Android platform upgrades for 18 months after the device is first released, as long as the hardware allows...and that's just the beginning. Stay tuned for more details."
Updates provided for 18 months, not within 18 months.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/05/android-momentum-mobile-and-more-at.html
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I stand corrected! Muchos gracias!
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Someone ask this on the official support forums for the atrix.
bearsfan172 said:
It makes a lot of sense. 18 months is getting close to the life of a phone. So they keep you updated, then make you buy a new one when you can renew your contract.
I guess it works out well for both parties? We get updates frequently for most of the life of our phones, but they still get their upgrades.
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Actually upgrades work in our favor since they dont make crap on the phone. They only make money on the data service which is outrageously priced.
Rule of thumb.
Buy Google Flagship or htc to get all the upgrade love.
I hope moto dies.
According to the Droid-Life article, ICS launch will be unveiled at Samsung's event next week. Wouldn't you think Google would be publicizing this a little more?
Other than access to more apps due to the scaling feature I haven't heard all that much about what other changes tablets will see.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/10/0...confirms-ice-cream-sandwich-launch-next-week/
http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...ally-have-confirmation-of-ice-cream-sandwich/
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Hopefully see the source code will be available so we can get even more potential out of this great tablet.
How long do you think it is going to take Samsung to update our tabs once ICS is released?
Hopefull we get this soon as I'm frustrated with Honeycomb performance and lack of tablet apps.
I'm on the verge of selling this after 1 month.
The event was postponed...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/07/samsung-and-google-postpone-ice-cream-sandwich-and-galaxy-nexus/
Now they're saying it was out of respect for Steve Jobs... I'm all for honoring an icon in the industry, but this seems a little absurd to postpone an event that's a week later. What's the appropriate waiting period for other business to conduct themselves as usual???
Its supposedly the day of his funeral and some top Google people will be in attendance. And its not a day that "other" news is going to feature prominently.
Class move by Google, if you ask me. They'll probably talk about ICS/Prime later in the week, since CTIA runs through the 13th.
Well if his funeral is next week that will take away the show
Yes sounds cruel but is the reality
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Ice Cream Sandwich's source code has just been unleashed, which means it's time for the folks over at CyanogenMod to saddle up the horses, and get to work. In a Twitter post published on Tuesday, the Mod squad confirmed that it has already begun working on CM9, though it won't be released for another two months. CM8, in case you were wondering, was likely pegged for Android 3.0, but with Google holding tight to its Honeycomb source code, CyanogenMod may just leapfrog it altogether and jump straight to Cloud Nine. We'll all know more, come January.
Source:http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/16/ice-cream-sandwich-based-cyanogenmod-9-in-the-works-slated-for/
Now the release date in 2013 and the name Blue are official:
http://blogs.windows.com/windows/b/...s-8-at-6-months-q-amp-a-with-tami-reller.aspx
Blimey! Looks like MS is gonna charge for Win Code Blue after all! Happy days ahead!
"Reller said the Windows team will share pricing, packaging, and go-to-market details about Blue in the next couple of weeks."
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-5...eveal-windows-blue-pricing-availability-soon/