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For those who haven't used a Galaxy S running Android 2.2, let me get you up to speed on a disappointing situation we have on our hands.
First, you should be aware that Galaxy S phones running Android 2.1 provide one of the smoothest Android browsing experiences around (even compared to other Android phones running 2.2). Scrolling is exceptionally smooth in most scenarios.
As you may have heard, Google heavily optimized the browser in Android 2.2. Unforunately, it seems they optimized it with Qualcomm (Snapdragon) processors in mind. While browsing became faster and smoother on phones with Qualcomm processors, it became (much) slower on phones with Hummingbird processors, especially when it comes to scrolling. Scrolling on websites with moderately heavy content (especially when you're zoomed out) is a chore on Galaxy S phones running 2.2. It's very jerky and slow. This is the case even when Flash is completely disabled, so that isn't the cause. If you've read many Galaxy Tab reviews, you've probably seen them point out how surprisingly jerky scrolling is in the browser.
Fortunately for Galaxy S users, Samsung has taken notice of the problem and last week leaked an Android 2.2.1 build for Galaxy S phones that includes GPU acceleration within the browser. This effectively fixes the problem. On this leaked build, scrolling is very smooth again in the browser. Even smoother than it was on Android 2.1 in fact. The only downside is that checkerboard patterns are occasionally seen when scrolling quickly, as is the case with GPU accelerated browsing in iOS and WP7.
Many of us were hoping the real fix would come with Gingerbread since Google was finally optimizing Android for a Hummingbird powered phone (the Nexus S of course). Unfortunately, after watching and reading several reviews of the Nexus S, I am disappointed to tell you that the problem hasn't been resolved. The Nexus S running 2.3 suffers from the same poor browser scrolling performance as the Galaxy S line does running 2.2. If you're coming from a Snapdragon based phone running 2.2 or a Galaxy S running 2.1 or 2.2.1, you WILL notice how slow scrolling is in the browser of the Nexus S.
If you want to see for yourself, take a look at the following video starting at about 12:50:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xClO6d-S86w&feature=player_embedded
At this point, we can only hope for review sites to bash the browsing performance and for Google to take notice and do something about it (better optimization or GPU acceleration like in the leaked Galaxy S 2.2.1 build). Please voice this issue loudly in every forum you visit and pray that Google sees it and makes fixing it a priority.
gtg465x said:
For those who haven't used a Galaxy S running Android 2.2, let me get you up to speed on a disappointing situation we have on our hands.
First, you should be aware that Galaxy S phones running Android 2.1 provide one of the smoothest Android browsing experiences around (even compared to other Android phones running 2.2). Scrolling is exceptionally smooth in most scenarios.
As you may have heard, Google heavily optimized the browser in Android 2.2. Unforunately, it seems they optimized it with Qualcomm (Snapdragon) processors in mind. While browsing became faster and smoother on phones with Qualcomm processors, it became (much) slower on phones with Hummingbird processors, especially when it comes to scrolling. Scrolling on websites with moderately heavy content (especially when you're zoomed out) is a chore on Galaxy S phones running 2.2. It's very jerky and slow. This is the case even when Flash is completely disabled, so that isn't the cause. If you've read many Galaxy Tab reviews, you've probably seen them point out how surprisingly jerky scrolling is in the browser.
Fortunately for Galaxy S users, Samsung has taken notice of the problem and last week leaked an Android 2.2.1 build for Galaxy S phones that includes GPU acceleration within the browser. This effectively fixes the problem. On this leaked build, scrolling is very smooth again in the browser. Even smoother than it was on Android 2.1 in fact. The only downside is that checkerboard patterns are occasionally seen when scrolling quickly, as is the case with GPU accelerated browsing in iOS and WP7.
Many of us were hoping the real fix would come with Gingerbread since Google was finally optimizing Android for a Hummingbird powered phone (the Nexus S of course). Unfortunately, after watching and reading several reviews of the Nexus S, I am disappointed to tell you that the problem hasn't been resolved. The Nexus S running 2.3 suffers from the same poor browser scrolling performance as the Galaxy S line does running 2.2. If you're coming from a Snapdragon based phone running 2.2 or a Galaxy S running 2.1 or 2.2.1, you WILL notice how slow scrolling is in the browser of the Nexus S.
If you want to see for yourself, take a look at the following video starting at about 12:50:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xClO6d-S86w&feature=player_embedded
At this point, we can only hope for review sites to bash the browsing performance and for Google to take notice and do something about it (better optimization or GPU acceleration like in the leaked Galaxy S 2.2.1 build). Please voice this issue loudly in every forum you visit and pray that Google sees it and makes fixing it a priority.
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Its an issue with flash
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Its an issue with flash
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Did you even read what I wrote? The slow scrolling remains even with flash disabled or completely uninstalled.
Also, look at the Nexus One right next to the S in the video scrolling 10 times faster. It has flash enabled too.
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What a pity!
It will fix one day...eventually...
I wanna see a PERFECT Nexus S...
Are there REALLY Snapdragon optimizations in Android 2.2's browser or is that just hearsay because browsing is laggy on the Galaxy S?
Might be the crappy website he's on, other reviews shows other websites with flash and it's buttery smooth.
Also, you CAN NOT compare the Nexus S with PURE ANDROID 2.3 with a Samsung Galaxy S series phone with SAMSUNG TOUCHWIZ ANDROID! They are night and day comparisons!
I have trouble believing this when none of reviews I have read make mention of browser lag at all, and the videos I have seen show the Nexus S scrolling quite smoothly.
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Are there REALLY Snapdragon optimizations in Android 2.2's browser or is that just hearsay because browsing is laggy on the Galaxy S?
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1) Browser scrolls smoothly on Galaxy S with 2.1
2) Google "optimizes" the OS and browser for 2.2 while using a Snapdragon based phone for development
3) Browser scrolls horribly on Galaxy S with 2.2
Maybe they didn't intentionally optimize for Snapdragon. I don't know. Call it what you will, but Google certainly made changes to Android that helped Snapdragon CPUs and hurt Hummingbird CPUs when it comes to browser smoothness.
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Might be the crappy website he's on
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It's not the website. I've looked into this thoroughly for the last couple months and scrolling is slow on pretty much any website with a lot of content... Anandtech, Engadget, Gizmodo, Pocketnow, etc. If it was just a bad website, then why does the Nexus One in the video scroll so much smoother? It's clearly a problem with Android 2.2+ on Hummingbird processors.
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THE PROBLEM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FLASH! Flash works FINE on Galaxy S phones as well as the Nexus S and runs perfectly smooth. The problem is noticeable on websites with a lot of images and html content.
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Also, you CAN NOT compare the Nexus S with PURE ANDROID 2.3 with a Samsung Galaxy S series phone with SAMSUNG TOUCHWIZ ANDROID! They are night and day comparisons!
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Yeah well they have one thing in common. They both scroll slow as hell in the browser on content heavy sites with Android 2.2+!
You can make all the excuses you want, but when you get a Nexus S and realize how slow browser scrolling is compared to your old Snapdragon phone running 2.2 or your old Galaxy S running 2.1 you'll understand what I'm talking about.
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I have trouble believing this when none of reviews I have read make mention of browser lag at all, and the videos I have seen show the Nexus S scrolling quite smoothly.
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I agree. Looks fine to me in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_pz3nQVJa8&NR=1
Like it or not. This is Google we're talking about the web is there thing it will get better.
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I have trouble believing this when none of reviews I have read make mention of browser lag at all, and the videos I have seen show the Nexus S scrolling quite smoothly.
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Did you watch the Anandtech video I posted? The proof is right there! I believe Joshua Topolsky also mentioned briefly in the Engadget podcast this week that the browser felt slower than it should.
This slow scrolling is ONLY in the browser and ONLY on websites with a lot of content. The scrolling also isn't as bad when you're zoomed way in. Keep those things in mind when you see a video of the Nexus S scrolling in the browser.
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Did you watch the Anandtech video I posted? The proof is right there! I believe Joshua Topolsky also mentioned briefly in the Engadget podcast this week that the browser felt slower than it should.
This slow scrolling is ONLY in the browser and ONLY on websites with a lot of content. The scrolling also isn't as bad when you're zoomed way in. Keep those things in mind when you see a video of the Nexus S scrolling in the browser.
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Dude, you need to relax. This phone is not even released yet. By the way you talk, you make it sound like you've been using a Nexus S for a couple months now.
How about other browsers such as Skyfire opera dolphin???
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Did you watch the Anandtech video I posted? The proof is right there! I believe Joshua Topolsky also mentioned briefly in the Engadget podcast this week that the browser felt slower than it should.
This slow scrolling is ONLY in the browser and ONLY on websites with a lot of content. The scrolling also isn't as bad when you're zoomed way in. Keep those things in mind when you see a video of the Nexus S scrolling in the browser.
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I did, and what I'm saying is that that's the only instance of lag we've seen or heard mentioned so far, even with 'professional' reviewers reviewing the phone. I'm not going to deny that there could be a problem though, but we'll have to wait until Thursday to know for sure.
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I agree. Looks fine to me in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_pz3nQVJa8&NR=1
Like it or not. This is Google we're talking about the web is there thing it will get better.
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Phonedog isn't an extremely content heavy site and he's zoomed in when he scrolls around, but I do still notice a little stuttering. I was trying to find a Galaxy S with 2.1 browsing phonedog.com to see if it's smoother, but couldn't.
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Dude, you need to relax. This phone is not even released yet. By the way you talk, you make it sound like you've been using a Nexus S for a couple months now.
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Heard of the Galaxy S? Yeahhhh. Same phone, different software. I was hoping 2.3 would solve the issue but it looks like it doesn't from what I've seen/read.
Hoestly that video you posted made up my mind for me, I am picking up the nexus s on thursday instead of going back to the MT4G. That thing is silky smooth. Don't care about the one hiccup in this video.
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I did, and what I'm saying is that that's the only instance of lag we've seen or heard mentioned so far, even with 'professional' reviewers reviewing the phone. I'm not going to deny that there could be a problem though, but we'll have to wait until Thursday to know for sure.
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That Anandtech video isn't the only place I've seen/heard about it. I own a Galaxy S and we've been dealing with this problem for months, so excuse me if I'm terrified at the first signs that the Nexus S browser is laggy.
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Hoestly that video you posted made up my mind for me, I am picking up the nexus s on thursday instead of going back to the MT4G. That thing is silky smooth. Don't care about the one hiccup in this video.
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That's fine. I'm not out to bash the Nexus S or the people that buy it. The Nexus S is clearly an AWESOME phone and I want to get one. I simply don't want the browsing experience hampered by software that doesn't play nice with Hummingbird. I want Google to take notice that their latest software made changes that cause Hummingbird processors to scroll very choppy on content heavy sites in the browser. I want them to fix it or at least make it like it was on 2.1 because this phone could be so much better!
Did you watch this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_pz3nQVJa8&feature=channel
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Is this slow too?
Touchscreen latency issues seemed to be buried with OP2 completely and OP3 at the beginning. There was one great article regarding OP3 xda-developer article and there was promises for better performance with OPV. If you haven't felt and appreciated the buttery smoothness of a Nexus, a Pixel or a iPhone OPV shouldn't be a problem but faster the better, right? So I don't want a phone with latency like OP2 or 3 did. I hope touch latency isn't a problem with OP5 and if it is I hope the problem doesn't get buried like it did with previous OPes.
Post experiences (and what you have compared it to)!
At least in the initial plethora of reviews all of them said the OP5 had a buttery smooth UI and when some compared it to the S8 said it was smoother. I'm not talking about the contentious bench mark tests either. These reviewers had the OP5 for two weeks before the release having signed a non-disclosure agreement.
Did you not watch the launch stream? There was a segment where they CLEARLY focused on fixing this issue.
This is a big problem, none of the reviewers seems to have focussed on. There is this french review which pegs the lags at 88 ms which IMHO is too high.
http://www.lesnumeriques.com/telephone-portable/oneplus-5-128-go-8-go-ram-p38963/test.html
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Did you not watch the launch stream? There was a segment where they CLEARLY focused on fixing this issue.
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Did you not watch the launch stream? There was a segment where they CLEARLY focused on fixing this issue.
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Haven't had time. Should probably have but segment on launch stream isn't good enough for me because we all should know they aren't exactly 100% trustworthy.
Maybe I'm expecting a bit too much and a bit "ruined" because I use mainly my pc that has a 144hz monitor and a good mouse so it has as fast as available response time and I'm comparing phones a bit to that.
I think user amathur2k posted something worth noting. If OP5 truly has 88ms and iPhone 41ms so that's double difference and I'm sure it's meaningful. It's the difference of good and excellent. But now that I've looked up some articles (can't link them - forum's new user restrictions) maybe all devices are worse than I've expected and I'm expecting just too much from my phone.
So OK OnePlus 5 is fine but I want to see something like 10ms (I know i'ts not realistic currently)
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At least in the initial plethora of reviews all of them said the OP5 had a buttery smooth UI and when some compared it to the S8 said it was smoother. I'm not talking about the contentious bench mark tests either. These reviewers had the OP5 for two weeks before the release having signed a non-disclosure agreement.
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Sounds good based on reviews and especially if they say that in comparison to s8 but s8 isn't directly comparable because touchwiz has some "interesting" UI desicions and one of them is ensuring that touches are registered correctly so that escpecially wipes are ensured. I think galaxy does that by doing what for many is excessive smoothing but maybe better for a mainstream product like galaxy. So I think OnePlus is a bit more raw with it's input handling.
What worries me is that exactly the same was said about OnePlus 2 in reviews and especially now that reviewers have written a agreement ( I don't know if it's normal ) there may have been some pressure to say that it's smooth and as they propably haven't directly pressured the hypetrain definitely has.
One of the only problems with the 1 + 3t was the touchscreen latency as explained in this excellent article https://www.xda-developers.com/users-voice-concern-over-touch-screen-latency-issues-on-oneplus-3-3t/) explaining Touchscreen lag problems on the OnePlus 3T. i felt the same while playing with my friend's phone but could not properly articulate what the problem was.
Oneplus claims to have fixed this problem (See:- https://www.neowin.net/news/oneplus-has-finally-fixed-the-touchscreen-lag-issue-on-the-3-and-3t).
Can someone comment on whether this issue has been fixed on the Oneplus 5 ?
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Abhishek
See the official lunch stream, it's covered in detail what they did (process, not tech info in depth).
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A french review says that it's about 88 ms. So yes, it's a medium value.
Source : http://www.lesnumeriques.com/telephone-portable/oneplus-5-128-go-8-go-ram-p38963/test.html
Thanks, yes i see that they claim to have improved the input lag. Was wondering if any of the external reviewers can verify the claims
TwinAdk said:
See the official lunch stream, it's covered in detail what they did (process, not tech info in depth).
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Super Thanks, this is exactly what i was looking for.
IMHO 88 ms seems quite poor given the tall claims of having worked extensively on this.
I wonder why none of the reviewers has spoken about this, its an absolute buzzkill if you're used to a lower lag device.
Biou_Pilgrim said:
A french review says that it's about 88 ms. So yes, it's a medium value.
Source : http://www.lesnumeriques.com/telephone-portable/oneplus-5-128-go-8-go-ram-p38963/test.html
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Anyone have an idea of the latency of op3/t after ~ beta 14. The latency a after that is greatly reduced. Would be Interesting to compare the 5 to 3 with updated, beta firmware
Did you really notice any latency? I never did really on my 1+3 and Im usually very sensitive to this kind of problems or low fps..
Touch latency issue is already fixed on latest beta's for OP3/3T
Very very disappointed. A friend says he's played with one and it is an issue. Not to the extent to which it was with early oxygen os but to the level of new betas but still noticeable. Hope it isn't true.
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Did you really notice any latency? I never did really on my 1+3 and Im usually very sensitive to this kind of problems or low fps..
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Touch latency is not about fps.
Op3 on latest beta is OK but I would like to see better performance from 5 to spend my money
endallas said:
Touch latency is not about fps.
Op3 on latest beta is OK but I would like to see better performance from 5 to spend my money
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I know that. I wanted only make clear that Im sensitive to similar types of issues.
What's the verdict so far?
Anyone?
is higly notice even worse if u rise it... window/animation/duration on dev option ...perhaps i think what they did on lates update was to reduce it
In my opinion, the latency is about the same as the OnePlus 3/3T running the Open Betas. I think that when trying to optimize this issue in the OnePlus 5, though, they created the jello-like scrolling effect oroblem that so many of us are complaining about.
OP5 lags than OP3
The touch latency is bad in OP5 when compared to OP3
I noticed that when you scroll long pages really fast or with short swipes sometimes it:
1) stops for no reason
2) goes the opposite direction
3) scrolls really slow even if you swiped fast
I tested two OP5 with latest updates, and they both have same issue.
Probably this has something to do with that touch latency.
If anyone wants a quality review covering the touchscreen lag, check out hardware canucks' review of the OP5.
Spoiler, IT'S STILL REALLY LAGGY. And the jelly scrolling can be seen really well in this review too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPykS9l3D2Q
Time stamp: 4:25 - 5:13
I don't notice any issues. Have fun dealing with it.
Its been 4 days now playing with OP5 and I can clearly feel that the touch latency is very high compare to OP3T or OP2. The scroll really skids and move ahead from the point where you want the screen to stop but the input doesn't respond at that very moment...
So I'm deciding between the OP5 & the G6 and I'm wondering how fluid is scrolling on the G6, this is a topic the reviewers don't cover. There are app opening speed tests & web page load tests & game tests, but I'm mainly interested in how smooth is the navigation & scrolling in the official reddit app & web browsing. (this is an area my P9 is an epic fail at with plenty of micro stutter)
Also I've seen many 1080p samples on Youtube & they look like crap & the 4k recording is okay, but it seems jittery sometimes. Is there a third party video app that can improve upon this? Is video recording a strength or a weakness of the phone, thoughts?
Video recording is very nice! Scrolling is smoother than all of my older devices like the Moto X Pure, Nexus 5X and OnePlus 3..
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So I'm deciding between the OP5 & the G6 and I'm wondering how fluid is scrolling on the G6, this is a topic the reviewers don't cover. There are app opening speed tests & web page load tests & game tests, but I'm mainly interested in how smooth is the navigation & scrolling in the official reddit app & web browsing. (this is an area my P9 is an epic fail at with plenty of micro stutter)
Also I've seen many 1080p samples on Youtube & they look like crap & the 4k recording is okay, but it seems jittery sometimes. Is there a third party video app that can improve upon this? Is video recording a strength or a weakness of the phone, thoughts?
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I'll put it this way. If you care about latest and greatest specifications and near stock android experience, go with one plus 5. However, if you care about quality hardware, taking quality pictures, expandable storage and consume entertainment on your phone largely, go with LG g6. At the end of the day, you can't go wrong with either of them. Both of them are great phones. I own a LG g6 and I'm more than happy with it.
I hope this helps you.
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I'll put it this way. If you care about latest and greatest specifications and near stock android experience, go with one plus 5. However, if you care about quality hardware, taking quality pictures, expandable storage and consume entertainment on your phone largely, go with LG g6. At the end of the day, you can't go wrong with either of them. Both of them are great phones. I own a LG g6 and I'm more than happy with it.
I hope this helps you.
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I don't give a F about specs and I'm well aware of how the snapdragon 821 should be 90% of what the 835 is outside of gaming scenarios. I just don't want to lag in my reddit app, because reading reddit is one of my fav. activities & this is laggy on my Huawei p9, which does have a comparably powerful processor, chrome is also terribly laggy on the p9. I'm chiefly curious about LG's software optimization.
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I don't give a F about specs and I'm well aware of how the snapdragon 821 should be 90% of what the 835 is outside of gaming scenarios. I just don't want to lag in my reddit app, because reading reddit is one of my fav. activities & this is laggy on my Huawei p9, which does have a comparably powerful processor, chrome is also terribly laggy on the p9. I'm chiefly curious about LG's software optimization.
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Want to take it down a notch.
Person was trying to be helpful.
I don't have any issues with Chrome Beta, I don't use Reddit.
I don't notice any slowdown, lag or stuttering.
The unlocked LG G6 is currently $449 from B&H.
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Want to take it down a notch.
Person was trying to be helpful.
I don't have any issues with Chrome Beta, I don't use Reddit.
I don't notice any slowdown, lag or stuttering.
The unlocked LG G6 is currently $449 from B&H.
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I'm sorry, I did not mean to be rude and thank you!
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I don't give a F about specs and I'm well aware of how the snapdragon 821 should be 90% of what the 835 is outside of gaming scenarios. I just don't want to lag in my reddit app, because reading reddit is one of my fav. activities & this is laggy on my Huawei p9, which does have a comparably powerful processor, chrome is also terribly laggy on the p9. I'm chiefly curious about LG's software optimization.
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In all honesty, I prefer stock android but had to compromise for extra storage. Anyway, I think LG g6 and one plus 5 both are more than capable of handling intensive tasks. Let it be Reddit or any other task like that. Both of them will deal with it like a champ.
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In all honesty, I prefer stock android but had to compromise for extra storage. Anyway, I think LG g6 and one plus 5 both are more than capable of handling intensive tasks. So, let it be Reddit or any other task like that. Both of them will deal with it like a champ.
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Thank you!
I like stock android too, but seeing the g6's ui, I think it's fine. The most common UI elemens appear to be using material design. (status bar, notifification bar, app switcher and I don't go into settings very often after the initial setup)
By the way, how is the standby battery drain on the G6?
The standby battery consumption is well optimized. Between 2-3 per cent during the night. I have wifi or data on and do not disturb mode. Stuff syncs, but does not wake me up .
Also, I don't like LG keyboard, so I used Swiftkey on my H870 EU G6 and it introduced lag. Switched to Gboard and voila, much smoother.
Otherwise, battery life is unremarkable after Huawei Mate 9, though it had own problems.
Settings/Developer Options/ tick on "Force GPU Rendering" should make the beast smoother/snappier. If you are rooted, use a custom kernel for smoother optimized performance.
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Thank you!
I like stock android too, but seeing the g6's ui, I think it's fine. The most common UI elemens appear to be using material design. (status bar, notifification bar, app switcher and I don't go into settings very often after the initial setup)
By the way, how is the standby battery drain on the G6?
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You're welcome.
I get around 4 to 5 hours of screen on time with heavy usage and if the usage is light to medium, it easily gets me through the day. In a nutshell, I'd say it's good enough for a casual user.
Some phones exhibit choppy scrolling, especially when navigating long web pages when multiple apps are running in the background. Rate this thread to express how you smooth scrolling feels on the LG G8 under such conditions. A higher rating indicates that scrolling is always buttery smooth, even when you're reading a 10,000 word article on "how to kiss a girl".
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I don`t have the LG G8 but some reviewers are talking about a lag. Have you experienced such thing?
This quote is from phonearena review
One thing that surprised us negatively when using the LG G8 was the amount of lag and stutter in places where you would not expect it like in the home screen and the recent apps interface.
This definitely feels like a bug in the LG interface and something that we have seen on pre-production devices, but definitely not something that we can tolerate in a phone, let alone a flagship. The stutter is quite noticeable, but we do hope that the company will fix it with an update as this seems to be some kind of a bug and this is definitely not expected in a phone with the latest and most powerful Snapdragon chip around.
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I have a LG G8 and I have seen this issue.
Scrolling smoothness and responsiveness is always perfect after a reboot, but after some time (a day or 2) it gets choppy and a little laggy. It clears up after a reboot. I have not been able to clear it up by closing apps. And it does not seem to be affected by the resolution setting. I also have not found that starting any specific app seems to cause it.
I have seen the choppiness in Nova Launcher's app draw, Chrome and Kiwi Browser, and several other apps. The choppiness is like the frame rate is dropping from 60FPS to sub 30 FPS.
Perhaps the issues is a power management bug or some kind of CPU throttling.
Anandtech states the same thing which is disappointing , hopefully it's a software issue rather than hardware.
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I have a LG G8 and I have seen this issue.
Scrolling smoothness and responsiveness is always perfect after a reboot, but after some time (a day or 2) it gets choppy and a little laggy. It clears up after a reboot. I have not been able to clear it up by closing apps. And it does not seem to be affected by the resolution setting. I also have not found that starting any specific app seems to cause it.
I have seen the choppiness in Nova Launcher's app draw, Chrome and Kiwi Browser, and several other apps. The choppiness is like the frame rate is dropping from 60FPS to sub 30 FPS.
Perhaps the issues is a power management bug or some kind of CPU throttling.
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I too reboot to make sure there's like choppiness on a phone with SD845 LG G7, but in LG G8, surprised that it's the software to blame, not the SoC
In my LG G7, Settings/Battery/power Saving Exclusions/ tick all apps "On" I don't know why LG added this useless feature? LG should damn bootloader unlock all variants, so that a rooted phone with custom kernel with different CPU Governors have an impact on smoothness in the UI ! Even a USA unlocked model unfortunately, no support from LG.
Settings/Developer Options/ tick on "Force GPU Rendering" & OpenGL "Skia" should make the underrated beast smoother/snappier! How sad, LG
Haven't seen a stutter yet
I haven't rebooted in 5 days, and performance had been good. Only thing I have changed is I set my live wallpaper to the fluid Sim one on the play store. Probably not related unless it's something to do with a power saving state like I speculated before and that wallpaper is causing the CPU/gpu to go to a higher power state (probably not though).
Probably just a coincidence.
I haven't experienced any issues with scrolling. No stutters or anything, wonderful performance on this phone since I got it.
Mine was clean and smooth for the first 2 days, then finally developed noticeable lag that required a restart. I wish I could cange my vote.
I wonder if this is Pie, more than LG. When my s8 'upgraded', I had to restart every day to steady the frame rate, despite my tweaking of every power saving setting and animation related dev tool.
I totally aggree, if they can't bother to make it work right, they really ought to let the community do it. While my inexperienced eye was granting power saving exclusions to every app, I noticed a system app called "SuperBatterySaving". Is this new to android? Perhaps the issue?
Oh, and I found no "Skia" opengl setting.
Ali Mirza said:
I too reboot to make sure there's like choppiness on a phone with SD845 LG G7, but in LG G8, surprised that it's the software to blame, not the SoC
In my LG G7, Settings/Battery/power Saving Exclusions/ tick all apps "On" I don't know why LG added this useless feature? LG should damn bootloader unlock all variants, so that a rooted phone with custom kernel with different CPU Governors have an impact on smoothness in the UI ! Even a USA unlocked model unfortunately, no support from LG.
Settings/Developer Options/ tick on "Force GPU Rendering" & OpenGL "Skia" should make the underrated beast smoother/snappier! How sad, LG
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I switched on power exclusions for every app, switched off Adaptive battery, forced gpu rendering. Nothing helps. After 1 or 2 days, the frames drop in most animation, even simple games.
After this happened with my s8 as well, I'm pointing my finger at Pie. My wild guess is that it averages your use and throttles the cpu to that average. I use Bose sleepbuds, which require an app to run all night, but only sipping power. I dunno, I've thought about it every morning since Pie entered.
What do you all think?
DrivenKeys said:
I switched on power exclusions for every app, switched off Adaptive battery, forced gpu rendering. Nothing helps. After 1 or 2 days, the frames drop in most animation, even simple games.
After this happened with my s8 as well, I'm pointing my finger at Pie. My wild guess is that it averages your use and throttles the cpu to that average. I use Bose sleepbuds, which require an app to run all night, but only sipping power. I dunno, I've thought about it every morning since Pie entered.
What do you all think?
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:good::good::good:
I can't believe how often I have to restart this phone to smooth the frame rate. Sometimes twice per day. It's so aggravating to have an expensive flagship act like a budget pos. I will note that it seems to happen more on days that I use hdmi out.
People with other phones have complained about similar issues with the arrival of Pie. How can we complain to Google, or at least see if a fix is in the works?
I've got the unlocked US T-Mobile red version and there is definitely lag/stutter on the UI but it's something I can live with. It seems to have a cold a start then catch up then sends fine afterwards.
My 6T maybe fast but it's definitely not as smooth as other phones out there.
Update: My issue seems to be related to using hdmi out. I haven't used it in a couple weeks, and have had no more stuttering problems at all. Nice and smooth. Now I'm glad I voted high here. It's been a real pleasure.
So, if you're going to use hdmi out, restarting should be part of the routine.
Is anybody else having a similar experience?
I voted a 4. I have seen smoother phones with lesser hardware. I'm rating the plain jane LG G8 with their software, not some launcher, and it has some jittery feel to it.