Some phones exhibit choppy scrolling, especially when navigating long web pages when multiple apps are running in the background. Rate this thread to express how you smooth scrolling feels on the LG G8 under such conditions. A higher rating indicates that scrolling is always buttery smooth, even when you're reading a 10,000 word article on "how to kiss a girl".
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I don`t have the LG G8 but some reviewers are talking about a lag. Have you experienced such thing?
This quote is from phonearena review
One thing that surprised us negatively when using the LG G8 was the amount of lag and stutter in places where you would not expect it like in the home screen and the recent apps interface.
This definitely feels like a bug in the LG interface and something that we have seen on pre-production devices, but definitely not something that we can tolerate in a phone, let alone a flagship. The stutter is quite noticeable, but we do hope that the company will fix it with an update as this seems to be some kind of a bug and this is definitely not expected in a phone with the latest and most powerful Snapdragon chip around.
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I have a LG G8 and I have seen this issue.
Scrolling smoothness and responsiveness is always perfect after a reboot, but after some time (a day or 2) it gets choppy and a little laggy. It clears up after a reboot. I have not been able to clear it up by closing apps. And it does not seem to be affected by the resolution setting. I also have not found that starting any specific app seems to cause it.
I have seen the choppiness in Nova Launcher's app draw, Chrome and Kiwi Browser, and several other apps. The choppiness is like the frame rate is dropping from 60FPS to sub 30 FPS.
Perhaps the issues is a power management bug or some kind of CPU throttling.
Anandtech states the same thing which is disappointing , hopefully it's a software issue rather than hardware.
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I have a LG G8 and I have seen this issue.
Scrolling smoothness and responsiveness is always perfect after a reboot, but after some time (a day or 2) it gets choppy and a little laggy. It clears up after a reboot. I have not been able to clear it up by closing apps. And it does not seem to be affected by the resolution setting. I also have not found that starting any specific app seems to cause it.
I have seen the choppiness in Nova Launcher's app draw, Chrome and Kiwi Browser, and several other apps. The choppiness is like the frame rate is dropping from 60FPS to sub 30 FPS.
Perhaps the issues is a power management bug or some kind of CPU throttling.
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I too reboot to make sure there's like choppiness on a phone with SD845 LG G7, but in LG G8, surprised that it's the software to blame, not the SoC
In my LG G7, Settings/Battery/power Saving Exclusions/ tick all apps "On" I don't know why LG added this useless feature? LG should damn bootloader unlock all variants, so that a rooted phone with custom kernel with different CPU Governors have an impact on smoothness in the UI ! Even a USA unlocked model unfortunately, no support from LG.
Settings/Developer Options/ tick on "Force GPU Rendering" & OpenGL "Skia" should make the underrated beast smoother/snappier! How sad, LG
Haven't seen a stutter yet
I haven't rebooted in 5 days, and performance had been good. Only thing I have changed is I set my live wallpaper to the fluid Sim one on the play store. Probably not related unless it's something to do with a power saving state like I speculated before and that wallpaper is causing the CPU/gpu to go to a higher power state (probably not though).
Probably just a coincidence.
I haven't experienced any issues with scrolling. No stutters or anything, wonderful performance on this phone since I got it.
Mine was clean and smooth for the first 2 days, then finally developed noticeable lag that required a restart. I wish I could cange my vote.
I wonder if this is Pie, more than LG. When my s8 'upgraded', I had to restart every day to steady the frame rate, despite my tweaking of every power saving setting and animation related dev tool.
I totally aggree, if they can't bother to make it work right, they really ought to let the community do it. While my inexperienced eye was granting power saving exclusions to every app, I noticed a system app called "SuperBatterySaving". Is this new to android? Perhaps the issue?
Oh, and I found no "Skia" opengl setting.
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I too reboot to make sure there's like choppiness on a phone with SD845 LG G7, but in LG G8, surprised that it's the software to blame, not the SoC
In my LG G7, Settings/Battery/power Saving Exclusions/ tick all apps "On" I don't know why LG added this useless feature? LG should damn bootloader unlock all variants, so that a rooted phone with custom kernel with different CPU Governors have an impact on smoothness in the UI ! Even a USA unlocked model unfortunately, no support from LG.
Settings/Developer Options/ tick on "Force GPU Rendering" & OpenGL "Skia" should make the underrated beast smoother/snappier! How sad, LG
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I switched on power exclusions for every app, switched off Adaptive battery, forced gpu rendering. Nothing helps. After 1 or 2 days, the frames drop in most animation, even simple games.
After this happened with my s8 as well, I'm pointing my finger at Pie. My wild guess is that it averages your use and throttles the cpu to that average. I use Bose sleepbuds, which require an app to run all night, but only sipping power. I dunno, I've thought about it every morning since Pie entered.
What do you all think?
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I switched on power exclusions for every app, switched off Adaptive battery, forced gpu rendering. Nothing helps. After 1 or 2 days, the frames drop in most animation, even simple games.
After this happened with my s8 as well, I'm pointing my finger at Pie. My wild guess is that it averages your use and throttles the cpu to that average. I use Bose sleepbuds, which require an app to run all night, but only sipping power. I dunno, I've thought about it every morning since Pie entered.
What do you all think?
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I can't believe how often I have to restart this phone to smooth the frame rate. Sometimes twice per day. It's so aggravating to have an expensive flagship act like a budget pos. I will note that it seems to happen more on days that I use hdmi out.
People with other phones have complained about similar issues with the arrival of Pie. How can we complain to Google, or at least see if a fix is in the works?
I've got the unlocked US T-Mobile red version and there is definitely lag/stutter on the UI but it's something I can live with. It seems to have a cold a start then catch up then sends fine afterwards.
My 6T maybe fast but it's definitely not as smooth as other phones out there.
Update: My issue seems to be related to using hdmi out. I haven't used it in a couple weeks, and have had no more stuttering problems at all. Nice and smooth. Now I'm glad I voted high here. It's been a real pleasure.
So, if you're going to use hdmi out, restarting should be part of the routine.
Is anybody else having a similar experience?
I voted a 4. I have seen smoother phones with lesser hardware. I'm rating the plain jane LG G8 with their software, not some launcher, and it has some jittery feel to it.
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9 Days ago, I made the decision to switch networks due to Sprint's inability to handle MMS, data, signal, calls, or anything else. I walked into a T-Mobile store, and after a brief credit check, I was told I can choose any phone I'd like. My original intent was to hang onto my Nexus 5, which I absolutely loved, but I was told I was required to get a new phone. I wasn't exactly upset knowing I'd be getting a new phone, so I walked over to the displays and struggled for over 20 minutes trying to decide which phone to get. I eventually whittled my choices down to two phones. The LG G3 and the HTC One M9. After a bit of research and test driving, I chose the HTC One M9.
It is a seriously nice phone. The materials used to craft this baby are top notch, and definitely give the impression of quality. I very much like the way it looks and sounds, and even though it could be unwieldy to hold (slippery), I got around that issue by slapping a nice Spigen case on it. HTC's Uh Oh protection is a nice touch and the specifications are equally as impressive, which helped sell this phone to me. The thought of a 64-bit 8-core CPU was exciting.
It's my first flagship phone; everything should be impressive. And yet, I'm kind of not impressed. My two main complaints about this phone are the button placement (I think having the power button and volume buttons on the same side of the phone and right next to each other is kind of silly, then again, my N5 wasn't like that, so I could just be used to that layout. ) and the performance. Yes, you heard me, the performance. I don't even care about the joke of a camera this thing has, it's really the performance of the cutting-edge octacore CPU that they slapped in this thing that really frustrates me. Out of the box, this phone comes underclocked due to overheating issues. That, to me, is downright laughable. Did anyone at HTC test this phone? A flagship device whose performance is throttled from the moment you turn it on. That's like buying a Corvette straight from the dealer, starting up the car and finding out that Chevy disabled two of the cylinders in the engine to ensure it didn't overheat. It's not just the thought of this that bugs me, the performance of the phone is actually terrible at times. My Nexus 5, given it was running a 5.1.1 ROM, was butter smooth in all but the most complicated of situations. This phone, however, limited to a paltry 1.5GHz and another cluster that is slow to wake up and help out, struggles with some truly mundane tasks. For example, swiping to my Google Now Cards is laggy, loading Google Messenger is choppy and slow. Scrolling, in general, is almost never smooth. I've tried different ROMs, Kernels, and governors but can never really find a nice balance between performance and battery life. The CPU is ALWAYS up to something too. Even when the screen is off. My Nexus 5 would achieve, regularly, about 70-75% Deep Sleep throughout the course of a day. It sipped battery. This phone achieves, on a normal day, about 60-65%. Thankfully it has a larger battery than the N5, otherwise I seriously doubt it'd last as long.
Overall it's been bittersweet experience. I really like this phone, I want to love it, but I can't. I realize that this device is still in its infancy and HTC can roll out updates to hopefully iron out some of these problems. I also realize that the community for this phone is also in its infancy, and that down the road, there may be terrific alternatives to Sense 7 and the Stock Kernel. But I have 5 days left, and the idea of swapping this phone out for something better is slowly starting to grow on me. I've been toying with the idea of getting an Xperia Z3 or LG G3 instead. It'll cost me $50 to swap the M9 out for a different phone. On the other hand, my mind is telling me to be patient and that it'll work out in time with this phone. So I turn to you. Anyone else share the same frustrations with me? What do you think I should do? Should I wait or should I swap this baby out for something else?
UPDATE June 8th 2015:
I went to the T-Mobile store the day after posting this. I researched and thought long and hard about the decision I had to make. After a while I came to the conclusion that I would be paying $50 (Restocking fee) to essentially downgrade to another device. In fact, the only other flagship device that even appeals to me at this point is the LG G4, which seems to be getting along as well as the S6 and One M9 have been (from what I've read). Thanks to recommendations from others in the community, I made some changes that have greatly improved my experience with this device. I'm still not a huge fan of Sense 7 nor am I astonished by the Camera's performance, but a new launcher restored much of the stock Android feel and an upcoming firmware update promises to improve the camera. Performance while multitasking is fantastic and while there are a few hiccups here and there, I can't say my experience is any worse than what it was with my Nexus 5. The Battery life, a common complaint from others about this phone, is fantastic in my eyes. It's nice to sometimes forget about charging my phone at night, waking up the next morning and still having enough juice to get me into the afternoon.
Overall, I've only recently concluded that I did not give this device a fair chance for as long as I should've. Coming from my Nexus 5, the change was a bit of a shock. I suppose that played into my initial disappointment. I'm actually starting to fall in love with this phone. Compliments and exclamations of wonder and impact are common from others that I let check out my phone, even from die-hard iPhone fans, which is always nice. I figured that I should update this thread because I see the conversation still continues. No phone is without its flaws, my beloved N5 was hardly without its own. Many "flaws" are a matter of perspective. I'm confident I've made the right choice with this device, and I look forward to the bright future that lies in store for it (please God, give me an AOSP ROM).
ps. The 1.5 clock only applies to the A53 cores. I'm sure people more technically inclined and chime in and confirm this.
I've had nothing but smooth operation on this phone. I am on Leedroid at the moment, but was on international stock rom before and was just as smooth.
I'd be looking as to why you are experiencing the performance issues, and if you're not happy, I'm sure the consumer protection laws in the US allow you to return it for something else?
Best of luck
You are in the 14 day window go an return it
Go get your nexus 5 back or talk to someone who isn't trying to hose you into buying a new phone.
https://support.t-mobile.com/message/389200
Granted I don't know if the specs on your phone didn't match up to what was described in this link, Or if you had it leased.
Alcolawl said:
My Nexus 5, given it was running a 5.1.1 ROM, was butter smooth in all but the most complicated of situations. This phone, however, limited to a paltry 1.5GHz and another cluster that is slow to wake up and help out, struggles with some truly mundane tasks. For example, swiping to my Google Now Cards is laggy, loading Google Messenger is choppy and slow. Scrolling, in general, is almost never smooth. I've tried different ROMs, Kernels, and governors but can never really find a nice balance between performance and battery life. The CPU is ALWAYS up to something too. Even when the screen is off. My Nexus 5 would achieve, regularly, about 70-75% Deep Sleep throughout the course of a day. It sipped battery. This phone achieves, on a normal day, about 60-65%. Thankfully it has a larger battery than the N5, otherwise I seriously doubt it'd last as long.
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Yeah, I've noticed the lag when swiping to the goole now screen. I'm confident that performance will be better when they give us 5.1, which by then they'll have figured out how to best optimize S810. Best to test out your options, you might even want to consider the M8 which has GPE 5.1 ROMS ready for it. That phone performs and has excellent battery life.
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Yeah, I've noticed the lag when swiping to the goole now screen. I'm confident that performance will be better when they give us 5.1, which by then they'll have figured out how to best optimize S810. Best to test out your options, you might even want to consider the M8 which has GPE 5.1 ROMS ready for it. That phone performs and has excellent battery life.
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Have you installed the xposed fix memory leak apk? That may help with lag on 5.0.x
BUBBA DUB'S said:
Have you installed the xposed fix memory leak apk? That may help with lag on 5.0.x
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Yeah I have (doesn't it only fix that off screen animation bug?). The lag when scrolling to the google now screen affects my M8 as well if I recall correctly.
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Yeah I have (doesn't it only fix that off screen animation bug?). The lag when scrolling to the google now screen affects my M8 as well if I recall correctly.
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I thought it reduced the over all RAM usage from the system over a prolonged period of time. I thought that might affect lag overall on the phone, but I could be mistaken. I haven't experienced any lag on my device yet so I was just throwing out ideas.
Have you tried rooting and putting leedroid on it. It's a beast. No lag. No stutter. Smooth
I never experienced any lags except when gaming during charging the battery with a speed charger.
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BUBBA DUB'S said:
I thought it reduced the over all RAM usage from the system over a prolonged period of time. I thought that might affect lag overall on the phone, but I could be mistaken. I haven't experienced any lag on my device yet so I was just throwing out ideas.
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Same, lag isn't a problem except for when using google now launcher and swiping to the left for the google now screen. It's minor, but annoying nonetheless. For the OP who was used to the Nexus 5's smoothness it's probably extremely noticeable.
Cryosx said:
Same, lag isn't a problem except for when using google now launcher and swiping to the left for the google now screen. It's minor, but annoying nonetheless. For the OP who was used to the Nexus 5's smoothness it's probably extremely noticeable.
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True, I actually got rid of google now because it was annoying me every time my phone slipped out of my hand and started it. I still am hopeful knowing the m9 should get multiple updates in the future and run 5.1.
dondavis007 said:
I never experienced any lags except when gaming during charging the battery with a speed charger.
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why would you game while charging the s810 is power hungry i would be careful not killing my battery this way
reubenskelly1992 said:
Have you tried rooting and putting leedroid on it. It's a beast. No lag. No stutter. Smooth
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Wont make a difference, its the phone to blame to for now. I got 2 devices both same problems at times and tried everything for it, the roms run fine but battery life still bad and weird charging problems for me
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Wont make a difference, its the phone to blame to for now. I got 2 devices both same problems at times and tried everything for it, the roms run fine but battery life still bad and weird charging problems for me
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Weird
hamdir said:
why would you game while charging the s810 is power hungry i would be careful not killing my battery this way
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Because I only gaming before going to bed. Look at my sig and guess if I keep it long enough to notice
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Because I only gaming before going to bed. Look at my sig and guess if I keep it long enough to notice
Sent from a mobile gadget.
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still you are brute forcing the M9 into throttling its GPU this way and about the best thing on the M9 is actually gaming speed thanks to it's very powerful GPU
Coming from a M8, at first i was a little frustrated for the overheating and the camera of the M9. But then, neither the m7 or m8 were great cameras.
I read a lot of reviews and even started thinking of selling the M9 but swap for what? S6 ? God no, please, no more touchwiz. Lg,i had the lg3 and it was L(a)G and slow, much slower than the M8 (i know, different screen's resolution). So, in the end, i prefer keep the M9, the camera improve a lot with the update, and many more updates will come.
Then, there is sense 7, sense is one of my favourites android skins. Light, smart and very, very fast. I absolutely have no lag in M9 (all stock). And i use a lot blinkfeed, i missed it in any non Htc phone. And there is the boomsound, the touch to awake screen...
When you say you have lag with Google Now cards, I'm assuming you are using the Google Launcher. I have noticed some lag here and there with the Google launcher, but the stock Sense launcher performs admirably. It's quick and never seems to drop frames when gaming either. How did you leave the phone stock before you started flashing different ROMs to it? I think that may actually be the issue. Every review of the M9 has stated that the phone is smooth and HTC's software is better than ever. Messing with the software may be what's causing the poor experience.
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why would you game while charging the s810 is power hungry i would be careful not killing my battery this way
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I occassionally play a round of Boom Beach, Clash of Clans or Limbo while the phone is on the charger. Can you elaborate a bit on how this could "kill the battery"? Is it related to charging while the GPU is cranking up the thermals?
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nickmgray said:
When you say you have lag with Google Now cards, I'm assuming you are using the Google Launcher. I have noticed some lag here and there with the Google launcher, but the stock Sense launcher performs admirably. It's quick and never seems to drop frames when gaming either. How did you leave the phone stock before you started flashing different ROMs to it? I think that may actually be the issue. Every review of the M9 has stated that the phone is smooth and HTC's software is better than ever. Messing with the software may be what's causing the poor experience.
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I'm using the stock Sense launcher and my phone is buttery smooth. While I don't use the Google Now Launcher, Google Now performs great on this phone.
All of the games that I play are also super smooth. Granted, I don't play games that demand a high frame rate, but those games that I do play are far smoother on this phone than my old M7.
The one issue I had with the phone was what seemed like spotty issues with wifi. I did a cache partition wipe yesterday and it seems to have helped the issue.
So I'm deciding between the OP5 & the G6 and I'm wondering how fluid is scrolling on the G6, this is a topic the reviewers don't cover. There are app opening speed tests & web page load tests & game tests, but I'm mainly interested in how smooth is the navigation & scrolling in the official reddit app & web browsing. (this is an area my P9 is an epic fail at with plenty of micro stutter)
Also I've seen many 1080p samples on Youtube & they look like crap & the 4k recording is okay, but it seems jittery sometimes. Is there a third party video app that can improve upon this? Is video recording a strength or a weakness of the phone, thoughts?
Video recording is very nice! Scrolling is smoother than all of my older devices like the Moto X Pure, Nexus 5X and OnePlus 3..
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So I'm deciding between the OP5 & the G6 and I'm wondering how fluid is scrolling on the G6, this is a topic the reviewers don't cover. There are app opening speed tests & web page load tests & game tests, but I'm mainly interested in how smooth is the navigation & scrolling in the official reddit app & web browsing. (this is an area my P9 is an epic fail at with plenty of micro stutter)
Also I've seen many 1080p samples on Youtube & they look like crap & the 4k recording is okay, but it seems jittery sometimes. Is there a third party video app that can improve upon this? Is video recording a strength or a weakness of the phone, thoughts?
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I'll put it this way. If you care about latest and greatest specifications and near stock android experience, go with one plus 5. However, if you care about quality hardware, taking quality pictures, expandable storage and consume entertainment on your phone largely, go with LG g6. At the end of the day, you can't go wrong with either of them. Both of them are great phones. I own a LG g6 and I'm more than happy with it.
I hope this helps you.
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I'll put it this way. If you care about latest and greatest specifications and near stock android experience, go with one plus 5. However, if you care about quality hardware, taking quality pictures, expandable storage and consume entertainment on your phone largely, go with LG g6. At the end of the day, you can't go wrong with either of them. Both of them are great phones. I own a LG g6 and I'm more than happy with it.
I hope this helps you.
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I don't give a F about specs and I'm well aware of how the snapdragon 821 should be 90% of what the 835 is outside of gaming scenarios. I just don't want to lag in my reddit app, because reading reddit is one of my fav. activities & this is laggy on my Huawei p9, which does have a comparably powerful processor, chrome is also terribly laggy on the p9. I'm chiefly curious about LG's software optimization.
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I don't give a F about specs and I'm well aware of how the snapdragon 821 should be 90% of what the 835 is outside of gaming scenarios. I just don't want to lag in my reddit app, because reading reddit is one of my fav. activities & this is laggy on my Huawei p9, which does have a comparably powerful processor, chrome is also terribly laggy on the p9. I'm chiefly curious about LG's software optimization.
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Want to take it down a notch.
Person was trying to be helpful.
I don't have any issues with Chrome Beta, I don't use Reddit.
I don't notice any slowdown, lag or stuttering.
The unlocked LG G6 is currently $449 from B&H.
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Want to take it down a notch.
Person was trying to be helpful.
I don't have any issues with Chrome Beta, I don't use Reddit.
I don't notice any slowdown, lag or stuttering.
The unlocked LG G6 is currently $449 from B&H.
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I'm sorry, I did not mean to be rude and thank you!
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I don't give a F about specs and I'm well aware of how the snapdragon 821 should be 90% of what the 835 is outside of gaming scenarios. I just don't want to lag in my reddit app, because reading reddit is one of my fav. activities & this is laggy on my Huawei p9, which does have a comparably powerful processor, chrome is also terribly laggy on the p9. I'm chiefly curious about LG's software optimization.
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In all honesty, I prefer stock android but had to compromise for extra storage. Anyway, I think LG g6 and one plus 5 both are more than capable of handling intensive tasks. Let it be Reddit or any other task like that. Both of them will deal with it like a champ.
jagjot2704 said:
In all honesty, I prefer stock android but had to compromise for extra storage. Anyway, I think LG g6 and one plus 5 both are more than capable of handling intensive tasks. So, let it be Reddit or any other task like that. Both of them will deal with it like a champ.
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Thank you!
I like stock android too, but seeing the g6's ui, I think it's fine. The most common UI elemens appear to be using material design. (status bar, notifification bar, app switcher and I don't go into settings very often after the initial setup)
By the way, how is the standby battery drain on the G6?
The standby battery consumption is well optimized. Between 2-3 per cent during the night. I have wifi or data on and do not disturb mode. Stuff syncs, but does not wake me up .
Also, I don't like LG keyboard, so I used Swiftkey on my H870 EU G6 and it introduced lag. Switched to Gboard and voila, much smoother.
Otherwise, battery life is unremarkable after Huawei Mate 9, though it had own problems.
Settings/Developer Options/ tick on "Force GPU Rendering" should make the beast smoother/snappier. If you are rooted, use a custom kernel for smoother optimized performance.
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Thank you!
I like stock android too, but seeing the g6's ui, I think it's fine. The most common UI elemens appear to be using material design. (status bar, notifification bar, app switcher and I don't go into settings very often after the initial setup)
By the way, how is the standby battery drain on the G6?
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You're welcome.
I get around 4 to 5 hours of screen on time with heavy usage and if the usage is light to medium, it easily gets me through the day. In a nutshell, I'd say it's good enough for a casual user.
Would you say that the Nokia 6 (2018) is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Nokia 6 (2018) exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
This phone is bad to the bone. Now, with this momentum built up around the "who will make the better cheapster, since google killed the nexus" it fails to deliver. I had all the nexus phones and even another one from the android one project. This is not good and nokia should acknowledge it. They are not able to make the only proprietary app (yes the camera) which is different on each android one phone since google doesn't provide api for the cheap hardware, the phone even crashes sometimes, the app is so bad.
Phone is laggy on a constant snappy animations level. Gboard lags 90% of the time. Battery drains superfast, and heats up like an oven (warning appears) while listening to gpm and using waze.
And no, no "rogue" or battery hog apps installed or whatnot. Touch is unresponsive. The phone is like two weeks old and I'm thinking of returning it. This is sad, I bought it to support an old company from my childhood ...
I understand that snapdragon scaled down a processor to fool the cheap and google didn't scaled down android for some reason, but there is a difference between a slow phone and a laggy snappy annoying someting.
My two cents for people who are trying to find a "new nexus" is to avoid it at all costs. This phone might work for an older family member who just got familiar with android. But as I told, if you're looking for a new nexus, forget it.
I have the exact opposite experience than strapabiro. My Nokia 6.1 hasn't shown me any lag at all. In two months I had to reboot one time. The unresponsive touch may be caused by a screen protector. I saw this on another phone (non-Nokia). As for battery drain, I did experience this issue but the fix was easy. I turned off the tap to wake and whatever they call it when it wakes up when you pick it up. I found the phone was waking up all the time when it was in my pocket. Since turning that off I can run two days easy before having to charge it. The SD630 processor is plenty fast when you are not running a skin over Android like Samsung, LG, etc. The weakest thing about the phone is the camera. If you use your phone's camera all the time this may not be the phone for you.
Indeed I have a screen protector, but I had one on every other phone. This lift to wake up thingy is disabled for me also since I observed the false wakeups on day 0. I will try with the tap to wake up too. Btw the custom launcher isn't eating more battery than the stock since they disabled the stock when they installed the bloat one and even some oem have better launcher since lately google hires anyone who can turn on a pc, but that's not our case. Yes the camera thing is very sad and bad advertising for Zeiss. I'm not here for trashtalk. Anyways based on the fact that the phone is out since February and it's popularity is really low here, I'm not anticipating a bright future for nokia's second coming. I'd really like this phone to work honestly, design is awesome, they should do something under the hood ...
I'm another unsatisfied customer coming from a Nexus background. Stuttering audio on bluetooth and then this update fiasco. Always the provider, country or google's fault and nothing Nokia can do. Cheap phone cheaper customer service.
Not fast at all. Its a laggy device. Inspite of having sd 630, it works like sd 212. I feel software is the main reason for such a laggy performance
for the specs its got a lot of lag. doesnt feel like the rom is optimized.
Wow. I am surprised about all the negative comments. Which versions are having lag? I have a TA-1068 (for 2 months so far) and have yet to experience any lag.
Maybe because this is the 4/64 variant?
Mine 6.1 32/3 GB model runs smooth. After all updates up to july security patch.
The only thing i hate about the phone is the worthless camera app. It is slow and laggie. On the TA-1043..
Especially when you user the camera sometimes i n Whatsapp
64/4 version and it's very responsive. Best phone I've had for years. Had it for 3 weeks now, haven't had a single hang, or crashed app, I think I've only rebooted once. Battery life is great too.
no complaint about speed..all is butter smooth
Would you say that the Moto G Stylus is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Moto G Stylus exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Terrible performance. Did a factory reset and loaded a recovery from Lenovo. Sometimes it will take 5 minutes to do a reboot, and constantly lagging performance and keyboard taking upto 3-5 seconds load constantly. Locked up multiple times, and also lost cell data that required a restart after other troubleshooting. Stay away from this phone, budget phones in the Android sector are really about sticking it to poor people. Unacceptable performance for a $300 phone. My iPhone 8 Plus performs leagues better, I bought the Moto G Stylus for work but will be returning it if Motorola cannot solve the problem. OMG the touch screen is horrible.
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Terrible performance. Did a factory reset and loaded a recovery from Lenovo. Sometimes it will take 5 minutes to do a reboot, and constantly lagging performance and keyboard taking upto 3-5 seconds load constantly. Locked up multiple times, and also lost cell data that required a restart after other troubleshooting. Stay away from this phone, budget phones in the Android sector are really about sticking it to poor people. Unacceptable performance for a $300 phone. My iPhone 8 Plus performs leagues better, I bought the Moto G Stylus for work but will be returning it if Motorola cannot solve the problem. OMG the touch screen is horrible.
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That sucks! Sounds like you may have gotten a dud. Mine is very snappy, reboots very quickly, less than a minute. Keyboard displays near instantly. No lockups or freezes here.
I see that you've reset the device & reflashed it from the Lenovo software. Did you restore any backups after the reset & restore? I've seen some odd issues over the years when restoring apps & data from third party tools like Titanium Backup, espically when restoring system apps and/or data. Hope you get it sorted out!
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Agreed. Mine is fast and snappy. It DOES take FOREVER to reboot. But day-to-day is very snappy.
Running stock ROM on MetroPCS. Using Lawnchair or sometimes Nova, both with Sesame. I'm indecisive about which feels faster.
And my keyboard I switch back and forth between Google GBoard and AnySoftKey. Both seem pretty snappy with ASK maybe being slightly snappier.
I'm biased though because I'm coming from a G6 Play that was beginning to feel REALLY limiting with it's 16GB of storage and NO ram lol
Seriously sometimes I'd wait a full minute just for the keyboard to come up on Google Chrome.
So just about anything new feels fast to me.
Sent from my moto g stylus using Tapatalk
Just bought the Pro and it lags greatly during the "select app" / "complete action with" dialog overlay, this thing:
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It's so bad the phone gets almost unusable. The animation takes like a full second for 3 frames. Rest of the OS runs OKish (some lags here and there). Did I receive a broken one or does everyone have this? It's so bad I want to return it.
It's slightly faster than G Power, but, somehow, it has hard time to open T-Mobile app.
Playing 1080p60 YouTube is fine
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It's slightly faster than G Power, but, somehow, it has hard time to open T-Mobile app.
Playing 1080p60 YouTube is fine
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Mine is consistently unusable and beyond return timeframe. I don't use it anymore and the carrier (google) will only try sending another one, but this product is designed this way and it could be just simply it's specs cannot carry out the tasks. Google should have a minimum spec for devices, and if they don't meet that spec they cannot be sold. Poor people or people who try to get budget devices pay the price with time and deep inconvenience--this is true on all fronts within late state capitalists society.
Sounds like a lot of duds are being sold.
I switched from a pixel 3a, to the g stylus.. and I'm literally more impressed by the g. My antutu and geekbench multicore scores between 10-15% higher. Battery life is better. Overall feel is better. The screen is great details, but could stand to be a tad bit brighter during daylight use. Sound is sorta cheap quality, but the volume is incredible. Apps open inc.redibky fast. Touch screen and scrolling is super responsive. I literally have no complaints with it's performance. I just wish the camera was better. I mean, it's not bad.. and performs better than most other phones -- but it's light years behind the best in class pixel 3a/4a.
Performance improvements to bring the best out of this phone?
1)L-Speed! (Requires root).
2)Service disabler (disabled about 10 apps that run in the background and hundreds of services. Especially stuff like motocare, digital wellbeing, facebook -- use Facebook lite if you must use anything, and several other apps/services)
3)Lucky Patcher for adblock (it's probably the best adblocker out there. Far better than adblock and much less energy and processing power than energized)
4)EXKernelManager!! Set up a profile that you can toggle for performance use, and one to use for battery life. Performance settings below:
Performance governors for cluster 1, 2, and GPU
Minimum idle gpu freq 950.
Virtual memory tab -- increase zram to 2gb. Lower swap to 40. Vfs cache 10. Overcommit 75. Dirty expire 10/5.
Misc: NOOP IO SCHEDULER! 2048 READ AHEAD. ENTROPY 1024/3072.
Run these settings, and tweak L-Speed to the max! And you'll feel like you just got a new and improved phone! Battery life will suffer, but this is for a few hours of heavy use when you need the processing power.
Honestly, I don't know what everyone is complianing about. I literally shut off 2 cores, and limit the max speed to 70% of the remaining cores, run a powersave governor for both the cpu and gpu... And click my battery saver toggle too.. and still am able to do whatever I want with it, with only small lags. But increases battery life by 50-100%.
So for those who are dealing with ultra slow phones and extreme lags.. the problem isn't the phone itself. It's your software, background apps and services, and the system/user settings.
Also, enable developer options.. turn on game driver globally, enable your 2d graphics by gpu only (disable hw overlay in dev options, and then in L-Speed toggle the force gpu rendering switch!). You can also limit background apps to 4. This will minimize background processing. But will increase load times when multitasking and switching apps.
Finally, in dev options.. go to running services. Look at what you have running. Disable every single thing that you either don't use, or don't need. Get you a magisk module that forces doze on gms services too.
There's tons and tons of things you can do to increase your performance, many of which will actually increase battery life too. Give them a shot.
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Terrible performance. Did a factory reset and loaded a recovery from Lenovo. Sometimes it will take 5 minutes to do a reboot, and constantly lagging performance and keyboard taking upto 3-5 seconds load constantly. Locked up multiple times, and also lost cell data that required a restart after other troubleshooting. Stay away from this phone, budget phones in the Android sector are really about sticking it to poor people. Unacceptable performance for a $300 phone. My iPhone 8 Plus performs leagues better, I bought the Moto G Stylus for work but will be returning it if Motorola cannot solve the problem. OMG the touch screen is horrible.
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I completely agree. It's a budget lag fest. Maybe a custom rom would make it speedier but then you have to deal with bugs. Buying a second hand iphone or an android flagship from last year would be better.
Would you say that the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Good speed, but not as fast as the regular S20. I don't do any heavy gaming, but some apps open slightly slower with the FE. Reduced RAM?
Just bought it and quite disappointed with its battery and speed
Using a Dual-SIM Exynos FE 6/128: G780F/DS.
Speed is great so far, but this is my first modern "flagship" phone though, so can't really compare it to anything.
Screen on time is not great though. 4.5 hours after a week of use.
I have no issues thus far with speed
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Just bought it and quite disappointed with its battery and speed
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Do you have Exynos or Snapdragon?
very slow. I'm so disappointed. my note 10 was faster. despite the 120hz (which feels incredible) the inconsistency gives me literal actual nausea. the frame rate stays at 120hz for 0.2-0.5s at first during scrolling then drops down to 30-20fps... when I set it to 60hz it's obviously slower but i prefer it because it just feels more consistent. it's nicer on the eyes.. very sad and dissapointing.
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very slow. I'm so disappointed. my note 10 was faster. despite the 120hz (which feels incredible) the inconsistency gives me literal actual nausea. the frame rate stays at 120hz for 0.2-0.5s at first during scrolling then drops down to 30-20fps... when I set it to 60hz it's obviously slower but i prefer it because it just feels more consistent. it's nicer on the eyes.. very sad and dissapointing.
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Do you have Exynos or Snapdragon?
It's 5g so I think it's snapdragon. My brother was the one who actually got it and said it but the package doesn't say 5g. The model number is G870f/ds. And had 128gb of storage and 8gb of ram
The major horrible lag went away after letting the phone sit on the table for some time. It was very new at the time. It still lags but it's usable now. It has the good old samsung/xiaomi (I never used a non samsung/xiaomi android phone since other phones are not available here) stuttering. When I scroll there's like 3-4 frames that daty stuck for 200-100ms. It's very noticable but nothing like the mess it was at first (I had literal nausea using it)
Is the snapdragon that much better really btw?
Overall the smoothness is nowhere near a 3 year old iphone x with 80% battery health (my brother uses his a ton.) But the higher refresh rate is sooo nice. It's hard to say which I prefer but the iphone feels better honestly
It's just sad to see a great 120hz panel ruined slightly by bad software
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It's 5g so I think it's snapdragon
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Yes.
AmyTheBun said:
The major horrible lag went away after letting the phone sit on the table for some time. It was very new at the time.
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If you've just installed all the apps you're using on your new phone, of course it's going to take a few hours to days for everything to settle down, as well as a few other restarts. Then it only makes sense to comment on his behavior.
Installing everything you had on your previous phone at the same time is not the best course of action. By gradually adding one application at a time, you can more easily detect one that has a serious problem, for example, with the A11, or with the phone itself.
However, if you are lagging without installing other apps, something is completely wrong.
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Is the snapdragon that much better really btw?
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AmyTheBun said:
Overall the smoothness is nowhere near a 3 year old iphone x with 80% battery health (my brother uses his a ton.) But the higher refresh rate is sooo nice. It's hard to say which I prefer but the iphone feels better honestly
It's just sad to see a great 120hz panel ruined slightly by bad software
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Strange. For me, my new Samsung (Snapdragon 865, 6/128GB) is the smoothest phone I've ever had. My previous phone was Asus ZenFone 6 (Snapdragon 855, 6/128GB).
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Yes.
If you've just installed all the apps you're using on your new phone, of course it's going to take a few hours to days for everything to settle down, as well as a few other restarts. Then it only makes sense to comment on his behavior.
Plugging in everything you had on your previous phone at the same time is not the best course of action. By gradually adding one application at a time, you can more easily detect one that has a serious problem, for example, with the A11, or with the phone itself.
However, if you are lagging without installing other apps, something is completely wrong.
Yes.
Strange. For me, my new Samsung (Snapdragon 865, 6/128GB) is the smoothest phone I've ever had. My previous phone was Asus ZenFone 6 (Snapdragon 855, 6/128GB).
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I'm not sure what you mean by plugging but I installed cpu z and it's actually exynos ( it's been a day and a restart yesterday and honestly still. It lags but it's usable. I'll upload a video on youtube. If you're interested reply so I'll get a notification about it (it's gonna take a bit to upload)
Have you ever used a new iphone? Iphone x or newer. My iphone X was sooo smooth in comparison. Not to mention the far lower latency (input delay.) Overall the phone felt nicer on my eyes and brain to use despite the 60hz. But it wasn't as "fluid" as this one. But the consistency made up for it. And not to mention the thoughtful detailed animations that follow your fingers acceleration and speed etc.
I've been spoiled by an iphone x before and I'm quite sensitive to stutter tbh!
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this is the s20 fe. now that I see it in slow motion it's embarrassingly awful. I'm uploading a slow motion of proper 120hz without stutter too.
> I installed cpu z and it's actually exynos
Then this wasn't true and you only have the 4G version (SM-G780F):
> It's 5g so I think it's snapdragon
> The model number is G870f/ds
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> I installed cpu z and it's actually exynos
Then this wasn't true and you only have the 4G version (SM-G780F):
> It's 5g so I think it's snapdragon
> The model number is G870f/ds
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Yeah sadly the person at the store either made a mistake or lied to my brother. I wasn't there to confirm
But the video I attached shows the issues. It's outright embarrassing that samsung is this bad still. It takes actual skill to make such a fast processor this slow.
If you check my channel you can see what proper 120hz looks like in comparison. I was too lazy to attach the videos
activate your developer options @AmyTheBun by going to settings / about phone / software ...and tap on the build number 7 times in a row. this gives you an extra menu called developer options. inside that, near the top you'll see running services.
click running services after the phones has become slow and see what's using CPU and ram.
your phone performance is not normal. if it's not something like an old out of date app causing problems I'd take that phone back for a refund.
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activate your developer options @AmyTheBun by going to settings / about phone / software ...and tap on the build number 7 times in a row. this gives you an extra menu called developer options. inside that, near the top you'll see running services.
click running services after the phones has become slow and see what's using CPU and ram.
your phone performance is not normal. if it's not something like an old out of date app causing problems I'd take that phone back for a refund.
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smart pass was on the top. nothing special was using too many resources.
the video was in slow-motion btw.
oh and mine is exynos... we have no other choice where I live. not even a single snapdragon model!
I had the 5g version of the fe, it was complete **** so much it was slow. I instantly sold it back. Lots of stuttering, my old s9 was feeling faster (in Android). I then tried the 4g version of the s20 fe (exynos) and was surprised by how snappy it was. The menus where opening quickly, swaping between apps was a breeze. I was impressed.
So there sure is a rat under the carpet with Samsung, maybe software problems, maybe cpu/hardware/chipset problems, maybe both.
I have the 5G/Snapdragon version (recent firmware) and it's fast enough. The 120 Hz screen is smooth, all apps running smoothly including those with heavy JS graphics, which were garbage on my previous phone, A6.