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5X vs 6Pb performance test

This is interesting. Not good if one was hoping that the 5X performance would be closer to the 6P. Still happy I went with the 5X, but a good watch.
https://youtu.be/Mt_WJGL7SiA

Darn it, I don't know how that "b" got in the title...

gotzaDroid said:
This is interesting. Not good if one was hoping that the 5X performance would be closer to the 6P. Still happy I went with the 5X, but a good watch.
https://youtu.be/Mt_WJGL7SiA
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I'm not surprised the 6P does so much better, but those "open a bunch of apps and then re-open them" tests are stupid. They don't measure anything close to a realistic user experience.
Does this test show that the 5X is slower? Yes. Does it show that users will be disappointed in its performance? No.
Test the two with some real-world tasks. That will tell you what kind of user experience people will have. I still wouldn't be surprised if the 5X does much worse, but at least you'd see something meaningful.

DaggettBeaver said:
I'm not surprised the 6P does so much better, but those "open a bunch of apps and then re-open them" tests are stupid. They don't measure anything close to a realistic user experience.
Does this test show that the 5X is slower? Yes. Does it show that users will be disappointed in its performance? No.
Test the two with some real-world tasks. That will tell you what kind of user experience people will have. I still wouldn't be surprised if the 5X does much worse, but at least you'd see something meaningful.
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Exactly my thoughts. What's funny is that he called this test "daily use".

I'd have loved to see the 2013 nexus 5 do that test.

Well I honestly prefer a test like this than a benchmark app with a score.
Look at my Z5 Compact. Excellent scores in benchmarks. But then it has stutters and a lot of random delays compared to the Nexus 5 (2013) running the same version of Lollipop. Not to mention the free ram (like 500-800 less) probably because of 64bit, zRam or just all the sony libs hidden in system.
Sometimes when I unlock the phone I make a (real) travel through a lot of different apps.
Sent from my E5823

thesebastian said:
Well I honestly prefer a test like this than a benchmark app with a score.
Look at my Z5 Compact. Excellent scores in benchmarks. But then it has stutters and a lot of random delays compared to the Nexus 5 (2013) running the same version of Lollipop. Not to mention the free ram (like 500-800 less) probably because of 64bit, zRam or just all the sony libs hidden in system.
Sometimes when I unlock the phone I make a (real) travel through a lot of different apps.
Sent from my E5823
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Okay, but how does this better match what you do daily? Benchmarks are just benchmarks, regardless.

Nexus 5x vs Nexus 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y4pKV3bS7c

rapha.194 said:
Nexus 5x vs Nexus 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y4pKV3bS7c
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Pretty sad. I wonder if this is due to encryption? I'd like to see this test once a kernel that disables encryption is released. So far I have no reason to get the 5x to replace the 2013 nexus 5. I don't care about fingerprint reader at all. A better camera would be nice but without any sort of image stabilization I doubt I'd take better pictures anyway since I don't really take many pictures. Pretty underwhelmed... I was so excited for this phone...

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Nexus 5x vs Nexus 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y4pKV3bS7c
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Interesting the 5X didn't have the app reloading problem here like it did in the vs. 6P video.
Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S5.
---------- Post added at 09:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:43 PM ----------
Oh and here's part 2 to the 5X vs. 6p:
https://youtu.be/9WS01o-1zl0
Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S5.

App opening tests like the ones shown in the videos are indeed not very useful. Pinch zoom test, scrolling a complex web page with/without background tabs, loading galleries and zooming in and out as well as flipping through images, and yes, some game loading or Play store loading tests are more informative. Side-by-side tests can be done when you encounter anomalies, e.g. when one of the phones dropping frames. That would tell more about day-to-day performance than opening a dozen apps one at a time and timing it.
Speaking of frames, turning on GPU rendering profile in Developer Options is one of the easiest ways to see the UI performance.

lopri said:
App opening tests like the ones shown in the videos are indeed not very useful. Pinch zoom test, scrolling a complex web page with/without background tabs, loading galleries and zooming in and out as well as flipping through images, and yes, some game loading or Play store loading tests are more informative. Side-by-side tests can be done when you encounter anomalies, e.g. when one of the phones dropping frames. That would tell more about day-to-day performance than opening a dozen apps one at a time and timing it.
Speaking of frames, turning on GPU rendering profile in Developer Options is one of the easiest ways to see the UI performance.
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Well it is helpful in the sense of multitasking and RAM management. I've been a fan of these tests since Phone Buff started them.
Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S5.

I agree that portion is useful, although you have to wonder just how many people flip through that horrendous carousel to launch previous used apps instead of just finding an icon or a widget on home screen. Now, granted reloading will still disadvantage lower amount of RAM but I think a bigger mountain has been made out of that molehill. I usually do not run into a situation where I need more than 10 apps need to stay alive in RAM.

That was not a hard use.
were only 10 apps! Since App calculator, alarm clock, translator are lightweight apps.
Imagine this with App facebook, messenger, whatsapp, Skype, running games, Chrome with 10 tabs open, oficce, music app, photo editor, maps .... etc.
This test is more useful than those benchmark test.
This test is a typical use demonstration of the day day (the opening speed, speed in switching between apps and see if the reload apps).

DaggettBeaver said:
I'm not surprised the 6P does so much better, but those "open a bunch of apps and then re-open them" tests are stupid. They don't measure anything close to a realistic user experience.
Does this test show that the 5X is slower? Yes. Does it show that users will be disappointed in its performance? No.
Test the two with some real-world tasks. That will tell you what kind of user experience people will have. I still wouldn't be surprised if the 5X does much worse, but at least you'd see something meaningful.
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Yeah I wouldn't let this discourage anyone looking to get the 5x. It will handle your daily stuff just fine. People are acting like they stuck the Snapdragon 800 in it (which BTW, my two year old n5 performs fantastic - sold my GS6 and went back to it even).
Is it as nice as the 6p? Of course not. The Nexus 5 was nowhere near flagship level either (neither was the N6 for that matter). At the same time, its half of the price of its big bro. Why would anyone expect it to be better?
I'm a HUGE Nexushead. Just because the 5x isn't "premium" does not make it a sh*t phone. Expect an upgraded N5, and be happy.
I want both devices tbh, but the 6p will be first
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

rapha.194 said:
That was not a hard use.
were only 10 apps! Since App calculator, alarm clock, translator are lightweight apps.
Imagine this with App facebook, messenger, whatsapp, Skype, running games, Chrome with 10 tabs open, oficce, music app, photo editor, maps .... etc.
This test is more useful than those benchmark test.
This test is a typical use demonstration of the day day (the opening speed, speed in switching between apps and see if the reload apps).
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It wasn't really. All Google apps too. That's why I prefer Phone Buff as they use a good mix of apps.
Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S5.

rapha.194 said:
That was not a hard use.
were only 10 apps! Since App calculator, alarm clock, translator are lightweight apps.
Imagine this with App facebook, messenger, whatsapp, Skype, running games, Chrome with 10 tabs open, oficce, music app, photo editor, maps .... etc.
This test is more useful than those benchmark test.
This test is a typical use demonstration of the day day (the opening speed, speed in switching between apps and see if the reload apps).
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Agree with bolded part..
5X could probably do fine on 2GB ram now.. but with ever increasing memory footprint of these apps/games, it will be a serious bottleneck a year down the road IMO. I would be excited for a 2GB phone if it's 2013.

DaggettBeaver said:
I'm not surprised the 6P does so much better, but those "open a bunch of apps and then re-open them" tests are stupid. They don't measure anything close to a realistic user experience.
Does this test show that the 5X is slower? Yes. Does it show that users will be disappointed in its performance? No.
Test the two with some real-world tasks. That will tell you what kind of user experience people will have. I still wouldn't be surprised if the 5X does much worse, but at least you'd see something meaningful.
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This is the best way to test IMO. It shows real world use and not just a benchmark score. Samsung and LG phones can get high scores, but the lag is crazy due to the OS and skins.

Galaxy S8 (European Exynos) - performance - scroll stuttering

Hi,
I'm really disappointed, I got my brand new s8 yesterday, and it looks and feels amazing like really really great.
Sadely it stutters a lot after a few swipes scrolling down in many apps, most disappointing were Instagram and Fenix, two perfectly smooth apps on my Pixel.
Is my device defective? What's your experience?
I think I 'm going to return it though
Best,
Dreadk

Instagram feels fine while scrolling ... even fast scrolling is good.
Maybe your Inet connection bandwidth?

My s8 stutters. I have no lag in instagram. Samsung browser lags a lot, also apparant on xda-dev forum site. My s7 edge never stuttered, it's buttery smooth. Both devices are Exynos. I am contemplating about returning it and sticking to my galaxy s7 edge. Batterylife also is worse than my s7 edge. On my s7 edge, I averaged at around 1000-1500mAh used for the battery. On my s8, I averaged at around 800-900mAh....
My phone is always warm, Android System is also quite high at about 10% when the display is at 40%. I am not happy with the S8. My s7 edge is much louder with dualspeakermod as well. The s8 has a very very weak earpiece speaker, so dualspeakermod won't be amazing at all.
Rear-facing camera favours retaining highlights on the s8. On the s7 edge it always wants to up the shadows. S8 camera has less noise but it's nothing special compared to my s7 edge.
Front facing camera is nice on the s8...but the autofocus is a pain in the ass. On the s7 edge, focus is always perfect due to fixed focus. On s7 edge, sometimes it needs refocus and can result in blurred image....

I got a 500Mb fiber and my Pixel on the same wifi scrolls smoothly anyway.
Wish it could be a simple fix like that ^^

Wow looks like you have much more complaints than I do, anyway I didn't test the phone further, smooth scrolling is one on my most wanted feature ; so I stopped digging deeper.
Why no reviewer did notice this stuff though?
I remember it was the same with iPhone 7 stuttering everywhere (10.3 greatly improved that recently, but too late).

Guys,
How are you installing your apps?
Are you doing a transfer from old phone to S8?
Sometimes installing apps fresh is best. Also double check your settings.
I usually use Nova Launcher so will see what the stock launcher is like for a day or two and then decide if Nova will be better.

I did a transfer first and then two factory reset installs (only installing instagram and fenix) because I couldn't believe it
I wonder if it's not an Exynos only problem, I suspect Samsung might have optimized the snapdragon / US version much more than the European one; US market is way more important I guess.
Any clue about that?

choccy31 said:
I usually use Nova Launcher so will see what the stock launcher is like for a day or two and then decide if Nova will be better.
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Nova launcher works fine

Dreadk said:
I did a transfer first and then two factory reset installs (only installing instagram and fenix) because I couldn't believe it
I wonder if it's not an Exynos only problem, I suspect Samsung might have optimized the snapdragon / US version much more than the European one; US market is way more important I guess.
Any clue about that?
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I have the US Verizon variant and mine lags a lot. Tons of jank when simply pulling down the Notification Shade. Very disappointed. Doesn't matter whether I run the TW or GN launchers; both do the same thing. For having a SnapDragon 835 and a truckload of RAM, I expected it to be very smooth. I've tried turning down the display to just HD and that didn't make any difference at all.

Lucky Armpit said:
I have the US Verizon variant and mine lags a lot. Tons of jank when simply pulling down the Notification Shade. Very disappointed. Doesn't matter whether I run the TW or GN launchers; both do the same thing. For having a SnapDragon 835 and a truckload of RAM, I expected it to be very smooth. I've tried turning down the display to just HD and that didn't make any difference at all.
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I have a US GS8 on VZW and I actually feel this is the smoothest device I've ever used. I'm coming (back to Android after a mini break) from an iPhone 7 Plus and in some places the GS8 is smoother and more fluid than the iPhone. It's way better than what Android used to be.
Maybe there's an app or something running in the background?

mobilehavoc said:
I have a US GS8 on VZW and I actually feel this is the smoothest device I've ever used. I'm coming (back to Android after a mini break) from an iPhone 7 Plus and in some places the GS8 is smoother and more fluid than the iPhone. It's way better than what Android used to be.
Maybe there's an app or something running in the background?
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I thought that too but this did it right out of the box before I even started loading apps. I'd love to figure out what's wrong. Considered doing an FDR just for the sake of doing it before I get too comfortable with the initial setup, as I know I'm lazy and will put it off. I mean could I have a CPU disabled or something? I guess I could contact Samsung support but I'm assuming they are going to be swamped for the next couple of weeks... but need an answer before my return window comes up.

Lucky Armpit said:
I have the US Verizon variant and mine lags a lot. Tons of jank when simply pulling down the Notification Shade. Very disappointed. Doesn't matter whether I run the TW or GN launchers; both do the same thing. For having a SnapDragon 835 and a truckload of RAM, I expected it to be very smooth. I've tried turning down the display to just HD and that didn't make any difference at all.
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I have a US GS8 on VZW and I actually feel this is the smoothest device I've ever used. I'm coming (back to Android after a mini break) from an iPhone 7 Plus and in some places the GS8 is smoother and more fluid than the iPhone. It's way better than what Android used to be.
Maybe there's an app or something running in the background?

mobilehavoc said:
Maybe there's an app or something running in the background?
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As I said, I factory reset two times, only installing instagram and fenix after initial setup and without modifying any option. No luck
Maybe I got a defective unit.

Dreadk said:
Why no reviewer did notice this stuff though?
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Because everyone configures their phone differently and the likely cause of these random issues isn't the phone it's some combination of user specific apps and settings.

Dreadk said:
I did a transfer first and then two factory reset installs (only installing instagram and fenix) because I couldn't believe it
I wonder if it's not an Exynos only problem, I suspect Samsung might have optimized the snapdragon / US version much more than the European one; US market is way more important I guess.
Any clue about that?
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I remember a few years ago when the note 5 was released. Boy did that phone lag, it was unbelievable. The thing is not many people would notice it and like you I use fenix and talon for Twitter and if a phone lags on these 2 apps it's glaringly obvious for me. Please let me know how you get on with this as was hoping to get a s8 from work.

BarryH_GEG said:
Because everyone configures their phone differently and the likely cause of these random issues isn't the phone it's some combination of user specific apps and settings.
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Please read my posts, I did factory reset the phone two times only installing instagram and fenix, not changing any settings.
Definitely not user specific, I wish it could be though, easy fix...

marvi0 said:
Please let me know how you get on with this as was hoping to get a s8 from work.
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I did a video, can you see the stutter (the video is 60fps) ?
https://youtu.be/YTTYtT8JR_U
The worst part is around 12 to 17 sec.

give the phone a bit of time to adapt, there is always small updates to fix these minor issues

abdelha said:
give the phone a bit of time to adapt, there is always small updates to fix these minor issues
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Guess you're right, I'm quite sure the stutter is caused by Samsung software trying too hard to smooth the scrolling.
Because to get the stutter I must scroll without pause, if I pause and scroll again things stay smooth.
I really hope they fix that soon but what if they don't and I can't return the phone...
PS: it tooks Apple 6 months to fix the same kind of issues on the iPhone 7.

UK s8. Upgraded from a Google Pixel and it feels like a downgrade in terms of speed and smoothness. Not buttery at all. Stutters everywhere!
Seriously, Samsung? Don't they test these things?

OP5 vs OP3T

I know that OP5 is a whole lot faster, but what if I'm kinda in a tight budget, should I just go with OP3T?
Also, I'm worried about the jelly scrolling, if I'm gonna have the OP5 will I get used to it? And I'm assuming not all devices has the same level of jellyness because some don't see it and some do. I also tried replicating the jelly by turning my current Xiaomi phone upside down and tried using it for three hours and I ended up getting dizzy.
So here's my usage type.
-Don't game a lot
-Browse a lot like Reddit, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook
-Music
-Rare picture taking
-I like longer battery life
I know I don't really maximize the capability of the phone but I'm taking advantage of the 6 GB RAM which helps a lot in switching apps. OP3T 6GB 128GB is priced $440 (no 64GB available) in our country and OP5 6GB is priced $530. Is the $90 difference worth it considering my type of usage?
Thank you.

I'd go with 3T for what you're wanting.

They're exactly the same.. There's no much difference from 3T and 5.. Try look some videos on youtube 3T vs 5.. The only thing change is camera and no other else (excluding CPU and RAM of course)

Go with OP5. Jelly scrolling isnt as severe as people make it out to be. OP5 is better than OP3T in every aspect. That 90$ difference is well worth it.
- runs cooler than op3t
- battery capacity is smaller than op3t, but it runs longer.
- music quality through headphone jack is slightly better than 3t. The speaker is louder too.
- camera is a step up over 3t.
- being a newer phone, its expected OP will treat it better in terms of software update.

hide0us said:
Go with OP5. Jelly scrolling isnt as severe as people make it out to be. OP5 is better than OP3T in every aspect. That 90$ difference is well worth it.
- runs cooler than op3t
- battery capacity is smaller than op3t, but it runs longer.
- music quality through headphone jack is slightly better than 3t. The speaker is louder too.
- camera is a step up over 3t.
- being a newer phone, its expected OP will treat it better in terms of software update.
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+1 , nothing to add. snapdragon 835 is more efficient. So both phones got about the same battery life.
But, even if this list seems cool, imho, it doesn't worth the 90$ at all.
And I should add : op3t got the OIS (optical image stabilisation), it might be better in low light scenes, when the shoot is a bit longer, so the shakiness of your hand wont blur the picture as much as the op5.

Presumably $90 is a significant amount of money in your budget or you wouldn't have asked the question to begin with. The OP5 processor is more power efficient and runs cooler than the 3T but the battery life between the two phones is about the same because the 3T has a larger battery. The OP5 has more powerful camera hardware but doesn't currently take advantage of it because the camera app is pretty lousy. You can take better point and shoot pictures with a $200 Samsung phone--especially in low light. Oreo is the last official Android build the 3T will receive while the OP5 will likely receive the build after Oreo but nothing after that. The jelly scroll problem on the OP5 isn't only because the screen was installed upside down but also because OP used the 3T display in the OP5 and the display isn't powerful enough for the rest of the hardware. If the screen refreshed faster and was higher resolution nobody would have even noticed that the display was upside down in the first place. The jelly effect drives some people crazy and other people aren't bothered by it but either way it's a design flaw that shouldn't be there and won't ever be fixed with software. I find myself clearing the system cache on my OP5 a lot because of frequent scrolling lag that seems to go away temporarily after I clear the cache. It's possible the scrolling lag is how I perceive the jelly effect but it can get pretty annoying --particularly because I never previously owned a phone with that issue. Only you can ultimately decide whether the OP5 is enough of an upgrade to merit the extra money. I think you might be as happy with the 3T given the description of your needs.

hide0us said:
Go with OP5. Jelly scrolling isnt as severe as people make it out to be. OP5 is better than OP3T in every aspect. That 90$ difference is well worth it.
- runs cooler than op3t
- battery capacity is smaller than op3t, but it runs longer.
- music quality through headphone jack is slightly better than 3t. The speaker is louder too.
- camera is a step up over 3t.
- being a newer phone, its expected OP will treat it better in terms of software update.
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Yea. This is what making me to rethink again on really what to pick between the two, almost every reviewer mentioned that it's not getting hot like the 3T because of the 10nm processor. Which adds battery life too. I think I should see an actual unit before buying to decide if the scrolling will still make me dizzy.

exce1ia said:
Yea. This is what making me to rethink again on really what to pick between the two, almost every reviewer mentioned that it's not getting hot like the 3T because of the 10nm processor. Which adds battery life too. I think I should see an actual unit before buying to decide if the scrolling will still make me dizzy.
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Dont worry about the scrolling its all fluff from people who just gotta think negative. Its a great device and has virtually zero issues. There are some folks with wifi problems and the like but honestly i havent encountered any reboots. My phone didnt even reboot when calling 911 before that update. Never had wifi problems so i guess u could get one that acts up or one that just skates through

I do believe most of the people giving bad reviews about oneplus 5 don't actually have one.
Oneplus 5 is just a beast!

I say if you can afford to pay the extta $90 then just go for the 5. You'll most likely have longer software support since its newer, and will have higher resell value than the 3T if you were to sell it down the road.
3T is still a great device though but I'd still say try getting the 5 if it's possible!

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Presumably $90 is a significant amount of money in your budget or you wouldn't have asked the question to begin with. The OP5 processor is more power efficient and runs cooler than the 3T but the battery life between the two phones is about the same because the 3T has a larger battery. The OP5 has more powerful camera hardware but doesn't currently take advantage of it because the camera app is pretty lousy. You can take better point and shoot pictures with a $200 Samsung phone--especially in low light. Oreo is the last official Android build the 3T will receive while the OP5 will likely receive the build after Oreo but nothing after that. The jelly scroll problem on the OP5 isn't only because the screen was installed upside down but also because OP used the 3T display in the OP5 and the display isn't powerful enough for the rest of the hardware. If the screen refreshed faster and was higher resolution nobody would have even noticed that the display was upside down in the first place. The jelly effect drives some people crazy and other people aren't bothered by it but either way it's a design flaw that shouldn't be there and won't ever be fixed with software. I find myself clearing the system cache on my OP5 a lot because of frequent scrolling lag that seems to go away temporarily after I clear the cache. It's possible the scrolling lag is how I perceive the jelly effect but it can get pretty annoying --particularly because I never previously owned a phone with that issue. Only you can ultimately decide whether the OP5 is enough of an upgrade to merit the extra money. I think you might be as happy with the 3T given the description of your needs.
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Lol lag? Scrolling lag? I do a system cache wipe maybe once every 3 weeks just because. There is no lag in this phone ever. You maybe have something going on with your phone or have a bad app misbehaving. Ordered my phone the day off launch and it's been buttery smooth ever since. I'm rooted, Magisk, stock oos on stock kernel. If you have lag.... Is think you have something going on you haven't b found yet.

Eric214 said:
Lol lag? Scrolling lag? I do a system cache wipe maybe once every 3 weeks just because. There is no lag in this phone ever. You maybe have something going on with your phone or have a bad app misbehaving. Ordered my phone the day off launch and it's been buttery smooth ever since. I'm rooted, Magisk, stock oos on stock kernel. If you have lag.... Is think you have something going on you haven't b found yet.
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I have factory reset my phone twice, tried 3 custom kernels and maximized the kernel settings for high performance and minimum latency--and the scrolling lag always comes back eventually no matter what. It's also exactly the same in safe mode so it's not caused by any app I installed. People also complain about scrolling lag on the OP5 support thread pretty much every day so it's not just me. It might be a software issue with OOS though given how buggy the stock ROM is. I haven't tried any custom ROMs for the OP5.

Scrolling smoothness

Some phones exhibit choppy scrolling, especially when navigating long web pages when multiple apps are running in the background. Rate this thread to express how you smooth scrolling feels on the LG G8 under such conditions. A higher rating indicates that scrolling is always buttery smooth, even when you're reading a 10,000 word article on "how to kiss a girl".
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I don`t have the LG G8 but some reviewers are talking about a lag. Have you experienced such thing?
This quote is from phonearena review
One thing that surprised us negatively when using the LG G8 was the amount of lag and stutter in places where you would not expect it like in the home screen and the recent apps interface.
This definitely feels like a bug in the LG interface and something that we have seen on pre-production devices, but definitely not something that we can tolerate in a phone, let alone a flagship. The stutter is quite noticeable, but we do hope that the company will fix it with an update as this seems to be some kind of a bug and this is definitely not expected in a phone with the latest and most powerful Snapdragon chip around.
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I have a LG G8 and I have seen this issue.
Scrolling smoothness and responsiveness is always perfect after a reboot, but after some time (a day or 2) it gets choppy and a little laggy. It clears up after a reboot. I have not been able to clear it up by closing apps. And it does not seem to be affected by the resolution setting. I also have not found that starting any specific app seems to cause it.
I have seen the choppiness in Nova Launcher's app draw, Chrome and Kiwi Browser, and several other apps. The choppiness is like the frame rate is dropping from 60FPS to sub 30 FPS.
Perhaps the issues is a power management bug or some kind of CPU throttling.

Anandtech states the same thing which is disappointing , hopefully it's a software issue rather than hardware.

Lowen SoDium said:
I have a LG G8 and I have seen this issue.
Scrolling smoothness and responsiveness is always perfect after a reboot, but after some time (a day or 2) it gets choppy and a little laggy. It clears up after a reboot. I have not been able to clear it up by closing apps. And it does not seem to be affected by the resolution setting. I also have not found that starting any specific app seems to cause it.
I have seen the choppiness in Nova Launcher's app draw, Chrome and Kiwi Browser, and several other apps. The choppiness is like the frame rate is dropping from 60FPS to sub 30 FPS.
Perhaps the issues is a power management bug or some kind of CPU throttling.
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I too reboot to make sure there's like choppiness on a phone with SD845 LG G7, but in LG G8, surprised that it's the software to blame, not the SoC
In my LG G7, Settings/Battery/power Saving Exclusions/ tick all apps "On" I don't know why LG added this useless feature? LG should damn bootloader unlock all variants, so that a rooted phone with custom kernel with different CPU Governors have an impact on smoothness in the UI ! Even a USA unlocked model unfortunately, no support from LG.
Settings/Developer Options/ tick on "Force GPU Rendering" & OpenGL "Skia" should make the underrated beast smoother/snappier! How sad, LG

Haven't seen a stutter yet

I haven't rebooted in 5 days, and performance had been good. Only thing I have changed is I set my live wallpaper to the fluid Sim one on the play store. Probably not related unless it's something to do with a power saving state like I speculated before and that wallpaper is causing the CPU/gpu to go to a higher power state (probably not though).
Probably just a coincidence.

I haven't experienced any issues with scrolling. No stutters or anything, wonderful performance on this phone since I got it.

Mine was clean and smooth for the first 2 days, then finally developed noticeable lag that required a restart. I wish I could cange my vote.
I wonder if this is Pie, more than LG. When my s8 'upgraded', I had to restart every day to steady the frame rate, despite my tweaking of every power saving setting and animation related dev tool.
I totally aggree, if they can't bother to make it work right, they really ought to let the community do it. While my inexperienced eye was granting power saving exclusions to every app, I noticed a system app called "SuperBatterySaving". Is this new to android? Perhaps the issue?
Oh, and I found no "Skia" opengl setting.

Ali Mirza said:
I too reboot to make sure there's like choppiness on a phone with SD845 LG G7, but in LG G8, surprised that it's the software to blame, not the SoC
In my LG G7, Settings/Battery/power Saving Exclusions/ tick all apps "On" I don't know why LG added this useless feature? LG should damn bootloader unlock all variants, so that a rooted phone with custom kernel with different CPU Governors have an impact on smoothness in the UI ! Even a USA unlocked model unfortunately, no support from LG.
Settings/Developer Options/ tick on "Force GPU Rendering" & OpenGL "Skia" should make the underrated beast smoother/snappier! How sad, LG
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I switched on power exclusions for every app, switched off Adaptive battery, forced gpu rendering. Nothing helps. After 1 or 2 days, the frames drop in most animation, even simple games.
After this happened with my s8 as well, I'm pointing my finger at Pie. My wild guess is that it averages your use and throttles the cpu to that average. I use Bose sleepbuds, which require an app to run all night, but only sipping power. I dunno, I've thought about it every morning since Pie entered.
What do you all think?

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I switched on power exclusions for every app, switched off Adaptive battery, forced gpu rendering. Nothing helps. After 1 or 2 days, the frames drop in most animation, even simple games.
After this happened with my s8 as well, I'm pointing my finger at Pie. My wild guess is that it averages your use and throttles the cpu to that average. I use Bose sleepbuds, which require an app to run all night, but only sipping power. I dunno, I've thought about it every morning since Pie entered.
What do you all think?
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:good::good::good:

I can't believe how often I have to restart this phone to smooth the frame rate. Sometimes twice per day. It's so aggravating to have an expensive flagship act like a budget pos. I will note that it seems to happen more on days that I use hdmi out.
People with other phones have complained about similar issues with the arrival of Pie. How can we complain to Google, or at least see if a fix is in the works?

I've got the unlocked US T-Mobile red version and there is definitely lag/stutter on the UI but it's something I can live with. It seems to have a cold a start then catch up then sends fine afterwards.
My 6T maybe fast but it's definitely not as smooth as other phones out there.

Update: My issue seems to be related to using hdmi out. I haven't used it in a couple weeks, and have had no more stuttering problems at all. Nice and smooth. Now I'm glad I voted high here. It's been a real pleasure.
So, if you're going to use hdmi out, restarting should be part of the routine.
Is anybody else having a similar experience?

I voted a 4. I have seen smoother phones with lesser hardware. I'm rating the plain jane LG G8 with their software, not some launcher, and it has some jittery feel to it.

Overall speed

Would you say that the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Good speed, but not as fast as the regular S20. I don't do any heavy gaming, but some apps open slightly slower with the FE. Reduced RAM?

Just bought it and quite disappointed with its battery and speed

Using a Dual-SIM Exynos FE 6/128: G780F/DS.
Speed is great so far, but this is my first modern "flagship" phone though, so can't really compare it to anything.
Screen on time is not great though. 4.5 hours after a week of use.

I have no issues thus far with speed

yap_rony said:
Just bought it and quite disappointed with its battery and speed
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Do you have Exynos or Snapdragon?

very slow. I'm so disappointed. my note 10 was faster. despite the 120hz (which feels incredible) the inconsistency gives me literal actual nausea. the frame rate stays at 120hz for 0.2-0.5s at first during scrolling then drops down to 30-20fps... when I set it to 60hz it's obviously slower but i prefer it because it just feels more consistent. it's nicer on the eyes.. very sad and dissapointing.

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very slow. I'm so disappointed. my note 10 was faster. despite the 120hz (which feels incredible) the inconsistency gives me literal actual nausea. the frame rate stays at 120hz for 0.2-0.5s at first during scrolling then drops down to 30-20fps... when I set it to 60hz it's obviously slower but i prefer it because it just feels more consistent. it's nicer on the eyes.. very sad and dissapointing.
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Do you have Exynos or Snapdragon?

It's 5g so I think it's snapdragon. My brother was the one who actually got it and said it but the package doesn't say 5g. The model number is G870f/ds. And had 128gb of storage and 8gb of ram
The major horrible lag went away after letting the phone sit on the table for some time. It was very new at the time. It still lags but it's usable now. It has the good old samsung/xiaomi (I never used a non samsung/xiaomi android phone since other phones are not available here) stuttering. When I scroll there's like 3-4 frames that daty stuck for 200-100ms. It's very noticable but nothing like the mess it was at first (I had literal nausea using it)
Is the snapdragon that much better really btw?
Overall the smoothness is nowhere near a 3 year old iphone x with 80% battery health (my brother uses his a ton.) But the higher refresh rate is sooo nice. It's hard to say which I prefer but the iphone feels better honestly
It's just sad to see a great 120hz panel ruined slightly by bad software

AmyTheBun said:
It's 5g so I think it's snapdragon
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Yes.
AmyTheBun said:
The major horrible lag went away after letting the phone sit on the table for some time. It was very new at the time.
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If you've just installed all the apps you're using on your new phone, of course it's going to take a few hours to days for everything to settle down, as well as a few other restarts. Then it only makes sense to comment on his behavior.
Installing everything you had on your previous phone at the same time is not the best course of action. By gradually adding one application at a time, you can more easily detect one that has a serious problem, for example, with the A11, or with the phone itself.
However, if you are lagging without installing other apps, something is completely wrong.
AmyTheBun said:
Is the snapdragon that much better really btw?
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AmyTheBun said:
Overall the smoothness is nowhere near a 3 year old iphone x with 80% battery health (my brother uses his a ton.) But the higher refresh rate is sooo nice. It's hard to say which I prefer but the iphone feels better honestly
It's just sad to see a great 120hz panel ruined slightly by bad software
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Strange. For me, my new Samsung (Snapdragon 865, 6/128GB) is the smoothest phone I've ever had. My previous phone was Asus ZenFone 6 (Snapdragon 855, 6/128GB).

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Yes.
If you've just installed all the apps you're using on your new phone, of course it's going to take a few hours to days for everything to settle down, as well as a few other restarts. Then it only makes sense to comment on his behavior.
Plugging in everything you had on your previous phone at the same time is not the best course of action. By gradually adding one application at a time, you can more easily detect one that has a serious problem, for example, with the A11, or with the phone itself.
However, if you are lagging without installing other apps, something is completely wrong.
Yes.
Strange. For me, my new Samsung (Snapdragon 865, 6/128GB) is the smoothest phone I've ever had. My previous phone was Asus ZenFone 6 (Snapdragon 855, 6/128GB).
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I'm not sure what you mean by plugging but I installed cpu z and it's actually exynos ( it's been a day and a restart yesterday and honestly still. It lags but it's usable. I'll upload a video on youtube. If you're interested reply so I'll get a notification about it (it's gonna take a bit to upload)
Have you ever used a new iphone? Iphone x or newer. My iphone X was sooo smooth in comparison. Not to mention the far lower latency (input delay.) Overall the phone felt nicer on my eyes and brain to use despite the 60hz. But it wasn't as "fluid" as this one. But the consistency made up for it. And not to mention the thoughtful detailed animations that follow your fingers acceleration and speed etc.
I've been spoiled by an iphone x before and I'm quite sensitive to stutter tbh!
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this is the s20 fe. now that I see it in slow motion it's embarrassingly awful. I'm uploading a slow motion of proper 120hz without stutter too.

> I installed cpu z and it's actually exynos
Then this wasn't true and you only have the 4G version (SM-G780F):
> It's 5g so I think it's snapdragon
> The model number is G870f/ds

_jis_ said:
> I installed cpu z and it's actually exynos
Then this wasn't true and you only have the 4G version (SM-G780F):
> It's 5g so I think it's snapdragon
> The model number is G870f/ds
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Yeah sadly the person at the store either made a mistake or lied to my brother. I wasn't there to confirm
But the video I attached shows the issues. It's outright embarrassing that samsung is this bad still. It takes actual skill to make such a fast processor this slow.
If you check my channel you can see what proper 120hz looks like in comparison. I was too lazy to attach the videos

activate your developer options @AmyTheBun by going to settings / about phone / software ...and tap on the build number 7 times in a row. this gives you an extra menu called developer options. inside that, near the top you'll see running services.
click running services after the phones has become slow and see what's using CPU and ram.
your phone performance is not normal. if it's not something like an old out of date app causing problems I'd take that phone back for a refund.

3mel said:
activate your developer options @AmyTheBun by going to settings / about phone / software ...and tap on the build number 7 times in a row. this gives you an extra menu called developer options. inside that, near the top you'll see running services.
click running services after the phones has become slow and see what's using CPU and ram.
your phone performance is not normal. if it's not something like an old out of date app causing problems I'd take that phone back for a refund.
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smart pass was on the top. nothing special was using too many resources.
the video was in slow-motion btw.
oh and mine is exynos... we have no other choice where I live. not even a single snapdragon model!

I had the 5g version of the fe, it was complete **** so much it was slow. I instantly sold it back. Lots of stuttering, my old s9 was feeling faster (in Android). I then tried the 4g version of the s20 fe (exynos) and was surprised by how snappy it was. The menus where opening quickly, swaping between apps was a breeze. I was impressed.
So there sure is a rat under the carpet with Samsung, maybe software problems, maybe cpu/hardware/chipset problems, maybe both.

I have the 5G/Snapdragon version (recent firmware) and it's fast enough. The 120 Hz screen is smooth, all apps running smoothly including those with heavy JS graphics, which were garbage on my previous phone, A6.