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Occasional Stutter or Lag on the S4?

I've been hearing on some reviews that there are some moments that the Touchwiz UI will have an occasional stutter or lag. Do you guys think that downloading a different launcher, like Apix, will help solve that? Or will I have to go to the dark side of the phone and root it?
Also to some of you S3 owners out there, did installing CM10 or any other custom roms help remove any signs of lag or stuttering from the phone?

lemonz23 said:
I've been hearing on some reviews that there are some moments that the Touchwiz UI will have an occasional stutter or lag. Do you guys think that downloading a different launcher, like Apix, will help solve that? Or will I have to go to the dark side of the phone and root it?
Also to some of you S3 owners out there, did installing CM10 or any other custom roms help remove any signs of lag or stuttering from the phone?
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i noticed the same on mine... Its a GT-I9505...
My Nexus 4 is smoother....

I'm afraid to get the s4 because of that. Everyone swore to God that the note 2 was the most fluid device they ever touched with no frame rate drops. I recommend it to two friends, come back two weeks later to find both of their phones a lag fest. There might've been some user error there, they both had 2 or 3 weird apps installed, and I attempted to diagnose the problem but alas the lag remained, with and without apex. It was kinda embarrassing
for me when they both went in to trade their note 2's for an iPhone 5, because of the horrendous lag they suffered.
I say all that because I potentially see that happening here again, especially with touchwiz now BEYOND bloated with features. Not to mention the phone probably isn't optimized for snapdragon the way it is for exynos...
Don't get me wrong I love sammy phones, I think they're incredible as I'm still rocking the s2. I just have a hard time recommending them to people because of the horrible experiences a regular user faces without rooting and throwing an aosp rom on. And it's not like I can freely suggest nexus phones as the nexus 4 is exclusive to gsm (most my friends are on Verizon/Sprint) and most don't like the idea of paying off contract.
Anywho I rambled a bit. Long story short, I'm the biggest Samsung advocate in the world but even I'm skeptical of getting the s4 because of performance drops such as the ones mentioned
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I'm guessing it's the use of 4.2. It was a big step backwards from 4.1.

MultiLockOn said:
I'm afraid to get the s4 because of that. Everyone swore to God that the note 2 was the most fluid device they ever touched with no frame rate drops. I recommend it to two friends, come back two weeks later to find both of their phones a lag fest. There might've been some user error there, they both had 2 or 3 weird apps installed, and I attempted to diagnose the problem but alas the lag remained, with and without apex. It was kinda embarrassing
for me when they both went in to trade their note 2's for an iPhone 5, because of the horrendous lag they suffered.
I say all that because I potentially see that happening here again, especially with touchwiz now BEYOND bloated with features. Not to mention the phone probably isn't optimized for snapdragon the way it is for exynos...
Don't get me wrong I love sammy phones, I think they're incredible as I'm still rocking the s2. I just have a hard time recommending them to people because of the horrible experiences a regular user faces without rooting and throwing an aosp rom on. And it's not like I can freely suggest nexus phones as the nexus 4 is exclusive to gsm (most my friends are on Verizon/Sprint) and most don't like the idea of paying off contract.
Anywho I rambled a bit. Long story short, I'm the biggest Samsung advocate in the world but even I'm skeptical of getting the s4 because of performance drops such as the ones mentioned
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda app-developers app
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Did you ever try to install a custom rom for any of those devices? The only smart phone I've owned was a Samsung Infuse (The little brother of the S2) and the lag on that phone was terrible, despite the amount of roms I've put on it.

I have seen lag in the widget drawer, first time when you try to swipe to a different page in the widget drawer. Seems like 4.2 update have broken a few things in terms of smoothness.

CLARiiON said:
I have seen lag in the widget drawer, first time when you try to swipe to a different page in the widget drawer. Seems like 4.2 update have broken a few things in terms of smoothness.
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So did I. Didn't notice a lag in other screens, though...

lemonz23 said:
Did you ever try to install a custom rom for any of those devices? The only smart phone I've owned was a Samsung Infuse (The little brother of the S2) and the lag on that phone was terrible, despite the amount of roms I've put on it.
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I still have the Droid Charge, the Infuse's ugly brother on Verizon. They both use galaxy S hardware in the age of the S II, and Samsung didn't really give a crap about them software wise. I remember when the Charge got the gingerbread update there was a line that read something like this in the source:
/*This is a temporary piece of crappy code that I was forced to write as I did not figure
out how to properly use the driver in the system. Please resist the temptation of ever using
this code in a good Samsung phone. I will remove this code as soon as I figure out the correct
way of using the driver*/
The old hardware and the bad development are likely the problems. We did just get an OTA update a couple of weeks ago that fixed a lot of lag, though. Maybe it was that guy's driver, who knows.

lemonz23 said:
I've been hearing on some reviews that there are some moments that the Touchwiz UI will have an occasional stutter or lag. Do you guys think that downloading a different launcher, like Apix, will help solve that? Or will I have to go to the dark side of the phone and root it?
Also to some of you S3 owners out there, did installing CM10 or any other custom roms help remove any signs of lag or stuttering from the phone?
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It's an existing feature in Samsung phones called S-lag.
So how's the dialer? Does it still open for 3 secs?

MultiLockOn said:
I'm afraid to get the s4 because of that. Everyone swore to God that the note 2 was the most fluid device they ever touched with no frame rate drops. I recommend it to two friends, come back two weeks later to find both of their phones a lag fest. There might've been some user error there, they both had 2 or 3 weird apps installed, and I attempted to diagnose the problem but alas the lag remained, with and without apex. It was kinda embarrassing
for me when they both went in to trade their note 2's for an iPhone 5, because of the horrendous lag they suffered.
I say all that because I potentially see that happening here again, especially with touchwiz now BEYOND bloated with features. Not to mention the phone probably isn't optimized for snapdragon the way it is for exynos...
Don't get me wrong I love sammy phones, I think they're incredible as I'm still rocking the s2. I just have a hard time recommending them to people because of the horrible experiences a regular user faces without rooting and throwing an aosp rom on. And it's not like I can freely suggest nexus phones as the nexus 4 is exclusive to gsm (most my friends are on Verizon/Sprint) and most don't like the idea of paying off contract.
Anywho I rambled a bit. Long story short, I'm the biggest Samsung advocate in the world but even I'm skeptical of getting the s4 because of performance drops such as the ones mentioned
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda app-developers app
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I read somewhere that the lag is not the devices themselves but more on Android's native coding (how it was built ground up). Android works like a computer and differences are the way it utilizes the CPU/GPU. For example, when you are browsing and click on something on iOS, it stops everything and performs new instructions right away. In Android, it still process last set of instructions.
So Android reduces the lag by brute force by (dual, quad core, more memory, GPU etc) whereas iOS, because of different coding they don't need to. Many apps on Android are really customized versions of Java. And didn't Steve Jobs eliminate Java because it is too slow/power consuming for Mobile?
Even Nexus devices lag. When you turn on the phone and start scrolling and browsing right away really fast there is some lag.

There is an interesting just released article on that matter , in french, but numbers speak for themselves :
lesnumeriques.com/reactivite-tactile-ecran-21-smartphones-tablettes-n29229.html
(sorry can't publish full url yet.
Limited set of devices for now but more to come and undoubtly GS4.
So far,
no surprise, Iphone 5 beat them all : 75ms
GS3 : quite good : 105ms
HTC one : a bit disappointing : 145

MultiLockOn said:
I'm afraid to get the s4 because of that. Everyone swore to God that the note 2 was the most fluid device they ever touched with no frame rate drops. I recommend it to two friends, come back two weeks later to find both of their phones a lag fest. There might've been some user error there, they both had 2 or 3 weird apps installed, and I attempted to diagnose the problem but alas the lag remained, with and without apex. It was kinda embarrassing
for me when they both went in to trade their note 2's for an iPhone 5, because of the horrendous lag they suffered.
I say all that because I potentially see that happening here again, especially with touchwiz now BEYOND bloated with features. Not to mention the phone probably isn't optimized for snapdragon the way it is for exynos...
Don't get me wrong I love sammy phones, I think they're incredible as I'm still rocking the s2. I just have a hard time recommending them to people because of the horrible experiences a regular user faces without rooting and throwing an aosp rom on. And it's not like I can freely suggest nexus phones as the nexus 4 is exclusive to gsm (most my friends are on Verizon/Sprint) and most don't like the idea of paying off contract.
Anywho I rambled a bit. Long story short, I'm the biggest Samsung advocate in the world but even I'm skeptical of getting the s4 because of performance drops such as the ones mentioned
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda app-developers app
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Note II with Nova on here, and zero lags (except if you unlock from deep sleep and immediately without waiting, like within 1 second or something, pull down the notification bar, there's a lag, but that's me being nitpicky here). I guess it's a snapdragon thing rather, I'm on N7100 international Note II. Can vouch for that anyways.

I feel like this will be fixed with updates.
A lot of them said it was in awkward apps.. the kind of apps you wouldn't expect to get lag.

On engadgets review, they say that the air view and air gestures seen to make the phone a lot more sluggish. So hopefully disabling one of those features will help speed it up.

Note 2 user chiming in. Not even mad about lag. There is no such thing as lag free. Show me proof if there is.
Also got an GS4 arriving tomorrow. Removing bloatware as soon as I gain root.
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When I was trying out the note 2 at the att store I noticed that some of the transitions would stutter from time to time (getting inand out of the app drawer, notification pulll down stutter) When I was trying out the HTC One, the only lag slight lag I got was on the widget select screen. Everything was literally smooth and fluid, it was awesome! The only reason why I was sold to the S4 instead of the One was because of the power button and volume buttons being so flush in the casing. I would have to slide my finger across the top just to pinpoint the power button which was very annoying and so I was thinking of avoiding the One. And I honestly like the design of the S4 more. But even the slightest lag on the S4 will deter me away from it, if it is constantly happening that is.

i'm not sure why some of u have lag or stutter on N2
i only have stutter on the notification drawer if i have a looot of notifications

Have you noticed some lags on the stock browser app? It seems there are some issues with pinch-in/out.

invano said:
Have you noticed some lags on the stock browser app? It seems there are some issues with pinch-in/out.
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no stock browser smooth as butter , Chrome stutter sometimes

yahyoh said:
no stock browser smooth as butter , Chrome stutter sometimes
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Can I ask you what is the version of the fw?
i9505 or 9500?
Thanks man

how to make this phone snapier?...

came back from the one plus 3 as i broke my mic and this dam phone feels soooo slow compare to the one plus 3. is there anyway to make it faster I have animation at 0x.. can I disable apps that take up memory?

egren58 said:
came back from the one plus 3 as i broke my mic and this dam phone feels soooo slow compare to the one plus 3. is there anyway to make it faster I have animation at 0x.. can I disable apps that take up memory?
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Warning: the following is not that helpful, hopefully others will give more meaningful replies.
You could do the opposite of what you did: Use a slower phone for about a week, like maybe the Note 7, and then when you come back to the S7e, it will hopefully seem faster. From what I've read, the OnePlus 3 is probably the snappiest Android phone available right now. I wish they made a Google Play Edition S7e.
How was the OP3 on T-Mobile's network, if you don't mind me asking? How did you break the mic?

Dr. Fed said:
Warning: the following is not that helpful, hopefully others will give more meaningful replies.
You could do the opposite of what you did: Use a slower phone for about a week, like maybe the Note 7, and then when you come back to the S7e, it will hopefully seem faster. From what I've read, the OnePlus 3 is probably the snappiest Android phone available right now. I wish they made a Google Play Edition S7e.
How was the OP3 on T-Mobile's network, if you don't mind me asking? How did you break the mic?
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One plus 3 is by far the best phone ive used. And the mic broke cuz i dropped it in water. Also on t-mobile it functions just as good as the s7 edge i think it not as good in low signal area but in normal day to day use speed were constantly equal to the s7e. Plus experiencing stock android has definitely pulled me away from samsung. I want to fix it but i cant find a mic on ebay or anywhere. Heck i cant even find a t2 driver at local shops lol

http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/guide-disable-apps-bloatware-package-t3456446
not sure if you've looked here already, but some say this can improve performance

Not sure if it's possible for a phone to be any snappier than this phone already is. The only time I notice any lag is shortly after a reboot, when loading websites heavy with ads (ad blocker is available for the stock browser and makes a huge difference), or when I just load up navigation. Best advice is to get rid of any apps that are known to be resource hogs and run in the background. So basically all social media apps (Facebook, Twitter, etc), and probably certain games such as that Pokemon nonsense.

It's a Samsung Phone. Look in Package Disabler to see how much stuff/crap Samsung puts in it's phones. Of course it's going to be slow compared to a One Plus 3.

sputnik767 said:
Not sure if it's possible for a phone to be any snappier than this phone already is. The only time I notice any lag is shortly after a reboot, when loading websites heavy with ads (ad blocker is available for the stock browser and makes a huge difference), or when I just load up navigation. Best advice is to get rid of any apps that are known to be resource hogs and run in the background. So basically all social media apps (Facebook, Twitter, etc), and probably certain games such as that Pokemon nonsense.
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yeah... Nexus 5 with Nougat is snappier than my s7 edge. and so is my LG G3 with CM13. 1440p doesn't do the smoothness any favors.

sputnik767 said:
Not sure if it's possible for a phone to be any snappier than this phone already is. The only time I notice any lag is shortly after a reboot, when loading websites heavy with ads (ad blocker is available for the stock browser and makes a huge difference), or when I just load up navigation. Best advice is to get rid of any apps that are known to be resource hogs and run in the background. So basically all social media apps (Facebook, Twitter, etc), and probably certain games such as that Pokemon nonsense.
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Many people are very sure that several phones are snappier than the S7 edge. Why else would a post like this exist?

Dr. Fed said:
Many people are very sure that several phones are snappier than the S7 edge. Why else would a post like this exist?
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Because people here have the desire to always try and make things better, even if better can't really be had with current hardware. In any case, I did give the OP suggestions on how to improve performance, unlike your very helpful post.
There are no other ways besides what I suggested. Root actually significantly hurts performance in this device, due to how it is obtained. Ultimately, if the OnePlus 3 is snappier and that's the most important thing to the OP, perhaps he should stick to it.

sputnik767 said:
Because people here have the desire to always try and make things better, even if better can't really be had with current hardware. In any case, I did give the OP suggestions on how to improve performance, unlike your very helpful post.
There are no other ways besides what I suggested. Root actually significantly hurts performance in this device, due to how it is obtained. Ultimately, if the OnePlus 3 is snappier and that's the most important thing to the OP, perhaps he should stick to it.
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You said "Not sure if it's possible for a phone to be any snappier than this phone already is. "
Based on that statement, it sounds to me like you think or thought the S7e is the snappiest phone. My reply to that was in reference to the OP, who clearly thinks the OP3 is faster. It was a rhetorical question.

Galaxy s7 edge disappointment

I've always been a huge fan of Android. I remember getting my first HTC Desire many years ago - the things you could do was unbelievable at that time.
Many years have passed and the technology has advanced greatly since then, however one thing that keeps bugging me is how Android still are performing - especially with third party developers like Samsung.
I've been using a iPhone 6s for some time and decided it was time to return to Android. I spent a lot of time researching which phone to chose, and to my surprise, everyone was prasing the s7 edge like it was the next big thing since the wheel.
So... I get one of them and the first thing I notice is how completely laggy the entire phone is. How can a phone with so crazy hardware have such a laggy interface - and how come no one has spoken about this in any reviews? Is it just normal Android behavior - or do you get blind to this when using it for years? I don't get it - and I really regret buying this phone because of this.
Scrolling stutters, typing to fast in chrome while it is loading makes the keyboard freeze for a moment and I don't enjoy the experience. I turned in my nexus 5 and even though it was way more fluent than the s7 in the interface, it has the same underlying stutter/lagg problems but on a way lesser scale.
Usually I'm really pro android - but anyone saying this **** is fluid and fast are lying to themselves or in denial. Try using an iPhone for once - I know it's like comparing Apple and oranges - but it's without a doubt a way better experience, the touch feels like it's moving at the same speed as the finger and best of all. I think we need some kind of nanotechnology to get even close to that experience on Android
Why are you flashing custom roms on xda if it wasn't for the hope of getting a super-fast rom with great battery and no lagg? And am I overreacting? Why aren't everyday Android users bugged by this?

Hmm actually the S7 edge is the first Android phone where I really won't bother to flash anything just to make it faster. I have absolutely no problems with fluidness...
Are you using the SD or Exynos one?

sessingø said:
I've always been a huge fan of Android. I remember getting my first HTC Desire many years ago - the things you could do was unbelievable at that time.
Many years have passed and the technology has advanced greatly since then, however one thing that keeps bugging me is how Android still are performing - especially with third party developers like Samsung.
I've been using a iPhone 6s for some time and decided it was time to return to Android. I spent a lot of time researching which phone to chose, and to my surprise, everyone was prasing the s7 edge like it was the next big thing since the wheel.
So... I get one of them and the first thing I notice is how completely laggy the entire phone is. How can a phone with so crazy hardware have such a laggy interface - and how come no one has spoken about this in any reviews? Is it just normal Android behavior - or do you get blind to this when using it for years? I don't get it - and I really regret buying this phone because of this.
Scrolling stutters, typing to fast in chrome while it is loading makes the keyboard freeze for a moment and I don't enjoy the experience. I turned in my nexus 5 and even though it was way more fluent than the s7 in the interface, it has the same underlying stutter/lagg problems but on a way lesser scale.
Usually I'm really pro android - but anyone saying this **** is fluid and fast are lying to themselves or in denial. Try using an iPhone for once - I know it's like comparing Apple and oranges - but it's without a doubt a way better experience, the touch feels like it's moving at the same speed as the finger and best of all. I think we need some kind of nanotechnology to get even close to that experience on Android
Why are you flashing custom roms on xda if it wasn't for the hope of getting a super-fast rom with great battery and no lagg? And am I overreacting? Why aren't everyday Android users bugged by this?
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With 2k resolution and many bloatware of U.S network. You can see slow because android no long animation and no wait loaded and touch like ios, fhd resolution of ios. With android 7 and FHD, s7 edge will very smooth.

You got a duff one by the sounds of it. You answer your own question really, nobody in reviews etc. is talking about your issues because, they are your issues.
Have the Exnyos model here on the EE network and I don't get any of the issues regarding speed and fluidity etc.

Chris_c81 said:
You got a duff one by the sounds of it. You answer your own question really, nobody in reviews etc. is talking about your issues because, they are your issues.
Have the Exnyos model here on the EE network and I don't get any of the issues regarding speed and fluidity etc.
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Yep. My thinking too. A lemon. iPhones have lemons too.

You got the cloned one

Meh I feel with the power the S7 Edge has you would expect much higher fluidity in this day and age of phone technology. My old iPhone 4s was smooth as butter. In comparison Samsung has always felt like butter but with crumbs in it. Don't get me wrong I LOVE my S7 Edge but it could be better...
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sessingø said:
I've always been a huge fan of Android. I remember getting my first HTC Desire many years ago - the things you could do was unbelievable at that time.
Many years have passed and the technology has advanced greatly since then, however one thing that keeps bugging me is how Android still are performing - especially with third party developers like Samsung.
I've been using a iPhone 6s for some time and decided it was time to return to Android. I spent a lot of time researching which phone to chose, and to my surprise, everyone was prasing the s7 edge like it was the next big thing since the wheel.
So... I get one of them and the first thing I notice is how completely laggy the entire phone is. How can a phone with so crazy hardware have such a laggy interface - and how come no one has spoken about this in any reviews? Is it just normal Android behavior - or do you get blind to this when using it for years? I don't get it - and I really regret buying this phone because of this.
Scrolling stutters, typing to fast in chrome while it is loading makes the keyboard freeze for a moment and I don't enjoy the experience. I turned in my nexus 5 and even though it was way more fluent than the s7 in the interface, it has the same underlying stutter/lagg problems but on a way lesser scale.
Usually I'm really pro android - but anyone saying this **** is fluid and fast are lying to themselves or in denial. Try using an iPhone for once - I know it's like comparing Apple and oranges - but it's without a doubt a way better experience, the touch feels like it's moving at the same speed as the finger and best of all. I think we need some kind of nanotechnology to get even close to that experience on Android
Why are you flashing custom roms on xda if it wasn't for the hope of getting a super-fast rom with great battery and no lagg? And am I overreacting? Why aren't everyday Android users bugged by this?
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As a s7 edge owner, I have no idea what are you talking about.
my s7 edge is 4 months old and working great
never rooted/ flashed another version
never downloaded cleanmaster apk, taskmanager ect.. never used it
my phone has been working great 4 months so far. Interface is smooth....
everything is smooth
you right- no need to root and mess up with your phone in order to make it work
Take your phone back to the store . try a factory reset under settings maybe it will help.
plus remember android 7 / 7.1.1 will be coming this month. As i checked on youtube and changeloge, there are tons of new features.
the update may solve the problem as well but i would not wait for that
good luck!

Clean master îs a wonderful app.
S7 Edge Smart Manager is powered by clean master so no need to blame this app.

tried many diffrent roms for the samsung s7 (flat) currently on Nougat 7 beta
All Roms i've tried are smooth and i never experienced lag or stutter on any of them.
I think you have bad software or broken phone.
Try a factory reset, or return to the Samsung store and explain the issue.

Post and run, not sure if this is a wind-up

Funny thing is I had the iPhone 7+ before coming back to Sammy, and I find this phone more stable than the iPhone. iOS10 was a big disappointment and I had a lot of hiccups on the iPhone 7+.
Can't wait to see what the S8 looks like too!

I have an ipad air 2 it's slowly to if you install to many apps. My problem with Samsung I can't delete debloat all the crapp what come with the phone without root. And most things are useless in my eyes. I switched from i9300 slimrom and than cm roms . The firmware should be small and fast. My slomrom was 200mbyte now I have to download 1.5gbyte . I don't want know comes in 10years properly 10gigabyte firmwares.

I have had my S7 since release day and i am a heavy user of my phone with way too many apps installed (120+) and yet i have no lag at all. I can type as fast as i want, scrolling your long post had no stutter or lag, and thats with a ton of background apps and a pop up video running! All i will say is my phone is a little warm. I am no fan of Apple so i cant compare but my nephew has switched from being an Apple user his whole life to the S7 and he is happy. There are missing features yes but performance wise he says he cant tell any difference so i take him on his word about that. I would consider if a) you have a dud or b) you have a fake. Either way, get it checked out because like the others say, you cant be right and everyone else be wrong!

sessingo is not wrong.... I've used since two month an Asus Zenfone 3 ZE552KL and, despite the device is loaded full of bloatware, the user experience is far better than with my S7 Edge. So, for me, the user experience on Android can be very good (my Asus for example) with no stutter, no lags, very snappy, even if the hardware is mid-range. It's like night and day between the two devices !!!
Sure the feeling on an Iphone is great, compared to the S7 and Edge. And I'm a big fan of Android and Samsung since the Galaxy S2...

AndrOmega said:
You got the cloned one
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LMAO, best comment in this thread
anyway, i've got my s7 exynos for a month now, and its the fastest phone i've owned. never been slow or anything.

sessing� said:
So... I get one of them and the first thing I notice is how completely laggy the entire phone is. How can a phone with so crazy hardware have such a laggy interface - and how come no one has spoken about this in any reviews? Is it just normal Android behavior - or do you get blind to this when using it for years? I don't get it - and I really regret buying this phone because of this.
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Loll did the iphone guys send you or are you just dumb? you never thought about maybe you have a defective phone before posting all this? obviously no one is experiencing these "lags" you're talking about. that's why nobody complains about it.

AndrOmega said:
Clean master îs a wonderful app.
S7 Edge Smart Manager is powered by clean master so no need to blame this app.
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Haha, clean master!
Thats so 2006, LOL

Sounds made up if I'm honest. The way it reads sounds untrue.

sessingø said:
I've always been a huge fan of Android. I remember getting my first HTC Desire many years ago - the things you could do was unbelievable at that time.
Many years have passed and the technology has advanced greatly since then, however one thing that keeps bugging me is how Android still are performing - especially with third party developers like Samsung.
I've been using a iPhone 6s for some time and decided it was time to return to Android. I spent a lot of time researching which phone to chose, and to my surprise, everyone was prasing the s7 edge like it was the next big thing since the wheel.
So... I get one of them and the first thing I notice is how completely laggy the entire phone is. How can a phone with so crazy hardware have such a laggy interface - and how come no one has spoken about this in any reviews? Is it just normal Android behavior - or do you get blind to this when using it for years? I don't get it - and I really regret buying this phone because of this.
Scrolling stutters, typing to fast in chrome while it is loading makes the keyboard freeze for a moment and I don't enjoy the experience. I turned in my nexus 5 and even though it was way more fluent than the s7 in the interface, it has the same underlying stutter/lagg problems but on a way lesser scale.
Usually I'm really pro android - but anyone saying this **** is fluid and fast are lying to themselves or in denial. Try using an iPhone for once - I know it's like comparing Apple and oranges - but it's without a doubt a way better experience, the touch feels like it's moving at the same speed as the finger and best of all. I think we need some kind of nanotechnology to get even close to that experience on Android
Why are you flashing custom roms on xda if it wasn't for the hope of getting a super-fast rom with great battery and no lagg? And am I overreacting? Why aren't everyday Android users bugged by this?
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I've very recently changed from my old iPhone 6 Plus to the S7 Edge and I know exactly what you mean. The 6 Plus was my first iPhone having had many Android devices prior to that. Although the S7 Edge is lightning quick, and opening and closing apps etc is super-fast, it has a 'twitch' to it, particularly when scrolling. Also, exactly as you describe, when moving your thumb slowly up and down you feel out-of-sync with the screen. I noticed it immediately, and then even got out my old iPhone to compare just in case I was imagining it. I wasn't. They behave very differently. Its amazing what you get used to. It doesn't feel as polished an experience I'm afraid.
There's lots of comments asking 'how can your phone be laggy? Mine's super-fast' - well I think there's a misunderstanding about what we're describing. For me, it's not that the phone isn't fast, it is. Very. It's about how it feels to interact with. It just feels 'twitchy' and not totally in sync with my gestures. I do get the odd weird freeze on many apps. I wouldn't call it lag but just a short millisecond pause that you're not expecting that throws what you're doing out of kilter. It's nothing to do with power. Just the architecture I think. We probably wouldn't notice these things if we hadn't switched from one platform to the other. I'm don't really want to get into the 'which is best' nonsense. I do slightly regret changing but the Apple handsets were boring, physically - design wise - and the S7 Edge is a beautiful looking phone. I'd underetimated how much I'd miss certain things though.

Ram management issues?

Wanted to buy a S8 in the next couple of weeks, but I've see videos on Youtube showcasing S8 is poor at ram management while comparing to G6, do you guys believe these issues can be fixed by software update? Or is it a hardware problem?
I wouldnt like to use a flagship who cant keep Youtube chrome frequently in background after just opening a few apps.

Ram management is software, but I think its no issue. About 10-12 apps are sufficient for me.

garret1976 said:
Ram management is software, but I think its no issue. About 10-12 apps are sufficient for me.
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Are you using the Exynos one or the Snapdragon one?
I've come across many different youtube videos and it looked terrible...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEytGhL6Q7w
https://youtu.be/arQIjCJjMZ8?t=8m51s
these two are the obvious one, i really wanted to buy the S8, and i hope more people could tell me their experience about the phone

I'm using an s8 with snap dragon on tmobile network. I own a iPhone 7 and galaxy s7 as well. I repeatedly attempted to use my s7 just to find myself going back to my iPhone almost immediately over the last 6 months. I love the android architecture. If you've used vanilla, you know how smooth it can be. The s7 could not hang with the iPhone in the slightest, however. The iPhone is just smooth. Nothing ever lags. All that being said, when I got the s8, I experienced similar lag, though not as extreme. Now, after the last update, using package disabler to freeze all the nasty Samsung garbage and other bloat, I've had absolutely zero lag. It's almost as smooth as vanilla android, which is a bold statement for TouchWiz. Samsung software is just lousy. Always has been. This is the closest they've come to getting it right, however. I'm loving this phone, and I haven't had any ram management issues. But that's my experience.

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Are you using the Exynos one or the Snapdragon one?
I've come across many different youtube videos and it looked terrible...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEytGhL6Q7w
https://youtu.be/arQIjCJjMZ8?t=8m51s
these two are the obvious one, i really wanted to buy the S8, and i hope more people could tell me their experience about the phone
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Considering you can buy the phone and try it out for 14 days, why don't you just do that and try it for yourself based on the apps you use on your phone. Videos can be 1 sided really and it is all based on your experience. If you open 8 to 10 apps on a regular basis, you will be fine with no issues. if you open 20 to 30, you will have some that will close and have to reload. It will all depend on your experience and how you use your phone and whether you can handle how this phone does its thing. The phone is an awesome phone and have a lot of positives but it is not a phone for everyone.

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Considering you can buy the phone and try it out for 14 days, why don't you just do that and try it for yourself based on the apps you use on your phone. Videos can be 1 sided really and it is all based on your experience. If you open 8 to 10 apps on a regular basis, you will be fine with no issues. if you open 20 to 30, you will have some that will close and have to reload. It will all depend on your experience and how you use your phone and whether you can handle how this phone does its thing. The phone is an awesome phone and have a lot of positives but it is not a phone for everyone.
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Well there isn't such service in HK, thats why responses in here is what I looking for, I just dont want to be disappointed because I am a long time Galaxy fan, only skipped the S7 and now having huge expectation for this phone

I'm using a Exynos S8+ and am amazed at how many apps it can keep alive compared to my past Samsung phones. And that includes the Note7. I'm a productivity user though so can't speak to games.

just bought my oneplus 5

I'm not to sure if I like it.... I am alone thinking this?

denny1970 said:
I'm not to sure if I like it.... I am alone thinking this?
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Probably not, had the S8 too for a few days and for me it was a dissapointing experience. While on paper it should be a blazing fast device, in real life i xperienced stutters/lag/framedrops while gaming/opening apps and animations. The OP5 i have now in raw performance is much faster and smoother then the S8. The Samsung soft-
and bloatware still is too heavy on the cpu/gpu to have a smooth working device. Think the HTC U11/LG G6 are better devices then the S8(+) imo.

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Probably not, had the S8 too for a few days and for me it was a dissapointing experience. While on paper it should be a blazing fast device, in real life i xperienced stutters/lag/framedrops while gaming/opening apps and animations. The OP5 i have now in raw performance is much faster and smoother then the S8. The Samsung soft-
and bloatware still is too heavy on the cpu/gpu to have a smooth working device. Think the HTC U11/LG G6 are better devices then the S8(+) imo.
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He was talking about the OP5, not the S8?!

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He was talking about the OP5, not the S8?!
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Indeed. But as someone who has the S8 and misses the pure Android experience, gee2012's post actually resonated well with me.
For a couple of weeks now, I've been kicking around the idea of giving the S8 to my wife, to replace her busted up S6, and picking up a OnePlus 5. But I just can't seem to pull the trigger for some reason.

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Indeed. But as someone who has the S8 and misses the pure Android experience, gee2012's post actually resonated well with me.
For a couple of weeks now, I've been kicking around the idea of giving the S8 to my wife, to replace her busted up S6, and picking up a OnePlus 5. But I just can't seem to pull the trigger for some reason.
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I have the S8+ and OP5 and IMHO the S8+ is a much better phone. Granted, I have mine rooted with a custom Rom and kernel and it's super fast. I guess everyone looks from their phone but for me there's no competition the S8+ wins every time.

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I have the S8+ and OP5 and IMHO the S8+ is a much better phone. Granted, I have mine rooted with a custom Rom and kernel and it's super fast. I guess everyone looks from their phone but for me there's no competition the S8+ wins every time.
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Yeah, I must say that I absolutely love the screen on the S8. I wasn't previously one to use my phones to watch TV/movies. However, since getting the S8 I now love watching Netflix on this huge screen while doing cardio at the gym.
I installed BK Disabler the first day and set that up to keep all the bloatware disabled. The phone has continued to be blazing fast and I haven't experienced any noticeable hiccups or lagging in daily use.
The one issue I do have is with the fingerprint scanner. It's slow when compared to the Pixel and sometimes it will completely stop working until the phone is rebooted. However, the Iris scanner is extremely reliable and usually gets my phone unlocked before I can even get my finger to the fingerprint scanner. Granted, this is not a solution if you're wearing sun glasses.
I do miss the pure Android experience but don't bother rooting anymore since some of my daily apps, including my banking apps, don't work on rooted phones anymore. Maybe I'll hold off until I see what the Pixel 2 has to offer this fall.

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Yeah, I must say that I absolutely love the screen on the S8. I wasn't previously one to use my phones to watch TV/movies. However, since getting the S8 I now love watching Netflix on this huge screen while doing cardio at the gym.
I installed BK Disabler the first day and set that up to keep all the bloatware disabled. The phone has continued to be blazing fast and I haven't experienced any noticeable hiccups or lagging in daily use.
The one issue I do have is with the fingerprint scanner. It's slow when compared to the Pixel and sometimes it will completely stop working until the phone is rebooted. However, the Iris scanner is extremely reliable and usually gets my phone unlocked before I can even get my finger to the fingerprint scanner. Granted, this is not a solution if you're wearing sun glasses.
I do miss the pure Android experience but don't bother rooting anymore since some of my daily apps, including my banking apps, don't work on rooted phones anymore. Maybe I'll hold off until I see what the Pixel 2 has to offer this fall.
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There are some annoyances with the S8 like you said with the fingerprint reader and another thing that annoyes me is finding a good screen protector! All in all though again IMO it's streets ahead of the OP5 (I know a lot on here will disagree with me) from camera to display to general build quality. Stock I agree again performance it's quite stuttery but as I said rooted etc etc I've got it to be very, very smooth and fast. I'm also waiting on the Pixel 2 to see what that offers next but I've been quite let down by the OP5.

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I have the S8+ and OP5 and IMHO the S8+ is a much better phone. Granted, I have mine rooted with a custom Rom and kernel and it's super fast. I guess everyone looks from their phone but for me there's no competition the S8+ wins every time.
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That's great and all but what about people in the US. I feel like this is something that every time someone brings up the comparison(OP5 to GS8) that gets overlooked. Even if you buy the GS8 Unlocked in the US there is no way to do anything that involves the Kernel, Rom, or any deep modification to the phone. As I understand the OP5 is more popular other countries, though it seems as that no one even brings this up.

Batfink33 said:
I have the S8+ and OP5 and IMHO the S8+ is a much better phone. Granted, I have mine rooted with a custom Rom and kernel and it's super fast. I guess everyone looks from their phone but for me there's no competition the S8+ wins every time.
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Had the s8+..4 different models with pink screens. I'm sure it's a great phone if you can get one that doesn't have a defective screen. I personally gave up on that goal. Love my OP5

zathus said:
Had the s8+..4 different models with pink screens. I'm sure it's a great phone if you can get one that doesn't have a defective screen. I personally gave up on that goal. Love my OP5
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Yeah, it happens with AMOLED panels. Took me 3 6Ps to get one with a uniform colour screen. Luckily with the S8 my first one was uniform.

How's yours OP5 screen uniformity ? Mine seems ok.
What's the best way to test it?
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Mine seems ok! Tested at diferent screen intensity with this page: http://www.nullabletype.co.uk/static/styles/blah2.html (scroll down)

I came to 1+5 from LG G2, and I should say that it seems like if I came from stone age
It is really fast.. still I am facing two issues:
1- fingerprint scanner sometimes not responding at all after ideal time.
2- Sometimes it dose not connect to data network at all(which is 3G), I need to switch it manually to 2G and then to automatic mode by hand , then it can see the 3G network, strange.
Everything else in my opinion is superb.

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I came to 1+5 from LG G2, and I should say that it seems like if I came from stone age
It is really fast.. still I am facing two issues:
1- fingerprint scanner sometimes not responding at all after ideal time.
2- Sometimes it dose not connect to data network at all(which is 3G), I need to switch it manually to 2G and then to automatic mode by hand , then it can see the 3G network, strange.
Everything else in my opinion is superb.
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1. What do you mean about "ideal time" ?
2. Probably carrier related, have you checked your apn ( not sure if it's called the same in english )?

nosphor said:
1. What do you mean about "ideal time" ?
2. Probably carrier related, have you checked your apn ( not sure if it's called the same in english )?
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1- sorry for mistype, idle time
2- yeah, it actually working fine, but if I have been on WiFi for a while, then switch to 3G, sometimes it dose not work, this happens randomly.

TMSxXDA said:
1- sorry for mistype, idle time
2- yeah, it actually working fine, but if I have been on WiFi for a while, then switch to 3G, sometimes it dose not work, this happens randomly.
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I remember having this kind of problem with my previous phone (Oneplus One). Don't remember how i fixed it because it suddently disappeared. I change my phone operator during that period so i think it's somehow related. But yeah i agree it's kinda annoying ^^.