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An abnormal amount of lag.

Just an observation which I'm pretty sure is software related. The same chipset with less ram is in my brother's moto g and there's no perceivable lag on that phone. An occasional stutter here and there is understandable but damn this thing slows way down. My guess is a dirty non optimized Sharp rom. Really, this thing should fly!
Something I noticed when comparing the Moto G with the Crystal on CPU-Z is Motorola has the CPU governor set to "Interactive" whereas the Crystal is set to "Ondemand"
Also you can't use ART on this phone which is a bummer because it definitely would help!

Also I've disabled Clip Now, Clip Now Setting, and Lumen toolbar so they're not running in the background.

I have too noticed some lag. It is most apparent for me when I switch apps quickly and open Hangouts to send a message and Swiftkey will not recognize any taps for about 20 seconds or so, and when I enter my PIN. I see more stuttering on the Crystal while scrolling through my Play apps while installing updates than what I did with my Optimus F3 that has a dual-core. It also was odd that ART is not available since it is with KK.
It looks like there is some kind of update for the Softbank version here http://www.softbank.jp/mobile/info/personal/software/20140917-01/ , so it might be making the rounds in carrier testing in the US. In Chrome's translation of the Japanese on the website it says that the Crystal will be supported for 3 years, so that looks nice.
As useful as Clip Now is, regular screenshots might be more efficient. I saw the app Greenify on the side-bar here on XDA, checked it out, and it works well to save battery life. It essentially "hibernates" apps and stops them from running in the background.

After reading the specs on this device awhile back, what you're describing isn't really a surprise.......which is probably why I won't purchase unless the Japanese version comes to the US.

Crystal Lag? Not on mine!
ycats said:
After reading the specs on this device awhile back, what you're describing isn't really a surprise.......which is probably why I won't purchase unless the Japanese version comes to the US.
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Guys, I've lost count on how many smartphones & tablets I've had in past 8 years. Prior to getting the 306SH I was carrying a Note 3 from Tmobile which was rooted with a tweaked ROM and that sucker was F A S T! For most tasks I find my Sharp to be just as fast and in some cases FASTER than my former Note 3!
Yes, I uninstalled and disabled some apps I never use, like Drive, Google Play Books and Google Play Newsstand.
Bottom Line: Numbers don't always tell the truth when it comes to real life.
My Sharp Aquos Crystal flies. Sorry if yours doesn't.
Glenn

I think this is really nice phone. Not just the looks, but it performs quite well too.
I have not experienced any lag, so far, installed about 30 apps, took pictures, played music...
The music sounds pretty good coming out of the speakers too! Oh, I did install Apollo Music Player, as I did not see "stock" player there, only g-Music... As with all Androids, I think Greenify is a must-have app; even though we do not have root yet, it kills (user) apps that try to constantly run in background (FB, Skype, etc..).
After the first full charge yesterday when I bought it, right now is down to about 28%, so that's 1 day and 2 hours on battery. Not bad.
The wife loves it, mainly because of the unique design, but like the performance too; it's an upgrade for her aging Epic 4G Touch...
So far so good!

weltwon said:
Guys, I've lost count on how many smartphones & tablets I've had in past 8 years. Prior to getting the 306SH I was carrying a Note 3 from Tmobile which was rooted with a tweaked ROM and that sucker was F A S T! For most tasks I find my Sharp to be just as fast and in some cases FASTER than my former Note 3!
Yes, I uninstalled and disabled some apps I never use, like Drive, Google Play Books and Google Play Newsstand.
Bottom Line: Numbers don't always tell the truth when it comes to real life.
My Sharp Aquos Crystal flies. Sorry if yours doesn't.
Glenn
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No Glenn, your Crystal doesn't fly. It's
just faster than your Note 3, which isn't slightly surprising. Touchwiz ruins Android on many levels. Aside from that the fact remains it should run a near stock version of Android faster and smother than it does. Coming from a Nexus 4 I know what fast is.

I have both the Crystal and a Moto G. They perform exactly the same to me - both are pretty responsive and although I can get both to lag a little bit if I really try, it is pretty good considering the hardware.. I wonder if you might have some apps that are slowing things down for you?

I've had the Sprint prepaid and Boost versions of this phone. Texting becomes annoying with any keyboard I am using because touch and response doesn't always match up for some reason. Just can't get it right on this phone. This lag you speak of I definitely experienced. It happens most often when the battery is low under 15%. Try it out for yourself. You'll notice that's when the lag comes out to play. I mean its still operatable so can't complain too much but it's definitely noticeable. Must be a hidden power save feature. With that being said I've noticed the lag other times when too many apps are open in recents or the phone's been being used to long. Memory problem? Idk.

I have absolutely no lag on this phone what so ever. Sorry to those that are experiencing that, return it for a warranty replacement. I use this phone a lot, and it never slows down. I have been playing asphalt 8 with the graphics settings cranked up and no lag. You guys just got bad models, it happens with every manufacturer. My last phone was the lg optimus f7, I had to return it 4 times before I got one that was good.

i meet the same problem

1 week in... And I'm losing faith. Fast. - Updated.

9 Days ago, I made the decision to switch networks due to Sprint's inability to handle MMS, data, signal, calls, or anything else. I walked into a T-Mobile store, and after a brief credit check, I was told I can choose any phone I'd like. My original intent was to hang onto my Nexus 5, which I absolutely loved, but I was told I was required to get a new phone. I wasn't exactly upset knowing I'd be getting a new phone, so I walked over to the displays and struggled for over 20 minutes trying to decide which phone to get. I eventually whittled my choices down to two phones. The LG G3 and the HTC One M9. After a bit of research and test driving, I chose the HTC One M9.
It is a seriously nice phone. The materials used to craft this baby are top notch, and definitely give the impression of quality. I very much like the way it looks and sounds, and even though it could be unwieldy to hold (slippery), I got around that issue by slapping a nice Spigen case on it. HTC's Uh Oh protection is a nice touch and the specifications are equally as impressive, which helped sell this phone to me. The thought of a 64-bit 8-core CPU was exciting.
It's my first flagship phone; everything should be impressive. And yet, I'm kind of not impressed. My two main complaints about this phone are the button placement (I think having the power button and volume buttons on the same side of the phone and right next to each other is kind of silly, then again, my N5 wasn't like that, so I could just be used to that layout. ) and the performance. Yes, you heard me, the performance. I don't even care about the joke of a camera this thing has, it's really the performance of the cutting-edge octacore CPU that they slapped in this thing that really frustrates me. Out of the box, this phone comes underclocked due to overheating issues. That, to me, is downright laughable. Did anyone at HTC test this phone? A flagship device whose performance is throttled from the moment you turn it on. That's like buying a Corvette straight from the dealer, starting up the car and finding out that Chevy disabled two of the cylinders in the engine to ensure it didn't overheat. It's not just the thought of this that bugs me, the performance of the phone is actually terrible at times. My Nexus 5, given it was running a 5.1.1 ROM, was butter smooth in all but the most complicated of situations. This phone, however, limited to a paltry 1.5GHz and another cluster that is slow to wake up and help out, struggles with some truly mundane tasks. For example, swiping to my Google Now Cards is laggy, loading Google Messenger is choppy and slow. Scrolling, in general, is almost never smooth. I've tried different ROMs, Kernels, and governors but can never really find a nice balance between performance and battery life. The CPU is ALWAYS up to something too. Even when the screen is off. My Nexus 5 would achieve, regularly, about 70-75% Deep Sleep throughout the course of a day. It sipped battery. This phone achieves, on a normal day, about 60-65%. Thankfully it has a larger battery than the N5, otherwise I seriously doubt it'd last as long.
Overall it's been bittersweet experience. I really like this phone, I want to love it, but I can't. I realize that this device is still in its infancy and HTC can roll out updates to hopefully iron out some of these problems. I also realize that the community for this phone is also in its infancy, and that down the road, there may be terrific alternatives to Sense 7 and the Stock Kernel. But I have 5 days left, and the idea of swapping this phone out for something better is slowly starting to grow on me. I've been toying with the idea of getting an Xperia Z3 or LG G3 instead. It'll cost me $50 to swap the M9 out for a different phone. On the other hand, my mind is telling me to be patient and that it'll work out in time with this phone. So I turn to you. Anyone else share the same frustrations with me? What do you think I should do? Should I wait or should I swap this baby out for something else?
UPDATE June 8th 2015:
I went to the T-Mobile store the day after posting this. I researched and thought long and hard about the decision I had to make. After a while I came to the conclusion that I would be paying $50 (Restocking fee) to essentially downgrade to another device. In fact, the only other flagship device that even appeals to me at this point is the LG G4, which seems to be getting along as well as the S6 and One M9 have been (from what I've read). Thanks to recommendations from others in the community, I made some changes that have greatly improved my experience with this device. I'm still not a huge fan of Sense 7 nor am I astonished by the Camera's performance, but a new launcher restored much of the stock Android feel and an upcoming firmware update promises to improve the camera. Performance while multitasking is fantastic and while there are a few hiccups here and there, I can't say my experience is any worse than what it was with my Nexus 5. The Battery life, a common complaint from others about this phone, is fantastic in my eyes. It's nice to sometimes forget about charging my phone at night, waking up the next morning and still having enough juice to get me into the afternoon.
Overall, I've only recently concluded that I did not give this device a fair chance for as long as I should've. Coming from my Nexus 5, the change was a bit of a shock. I suppose that played into my initial disappointment. I'm actually starting to fall in love with this phone. Compliments and exclamations of wonder and impact are common from others that I let check out my phone, even from die-hard iPhone fans, which is always nice. I figured that I should update this thread because I see the conversation still continues. No phone is without its flaws, my beloved N5 was hardly without its own. Many "flaws" are a matter of perspective. I'm confident I've made the right choice with this device, and I look forward to the bright future that lies in store for it (please God, give me an AOSP ROM).

ps. The 1.5 clock only applies to the A53 cores. I'm sure people more technically inclined and chime in and confirm this.
I've had nothing but smooth operation on this phone. I am on Leedroid at the moment, but was on international stock rom before and was just as smooth.
I'd be looking as to why you are experiencing the performance issues, and if you're not happy, I'm sure the consumer protection laws in the US allow you to return it for something else?
Best of luck

You are in the 14 day window go an return it

Go get your nexus 5 back or talk to someone who isn't trying to hose you into buying a new phone.
https://support.t-mobile.com/message/389200
Granted I don't know if the specs on your phone didn't match up to what was described in this link, Or if you had it leased.

Alcolawl said:
My Nexus 5, given it was running a 5.1.1 ROM, was butter smooth in all but the most complicated of situations. This phone, however, limited to a paltry 1.5GHz and another cluster that is slow to wake up and help out, struggles with some truly mundane tasks. For example, swiping to my Google Now Cards is laggy, loading Google Messenger is choppy and slow. Scrolling, in general, is almost never smooth. I've tried different ROMs, Kernels, and governors but can never really find a nice balance between performance and battery life. The CPU is ALWAYS up to something too. Even when the screen is off. My Nexus 5 would achieve, regularly, about 70-75% Deep Sleep throughout the course of a day. It sipped battery. This phone achieves, on a normal day, about 60-65%. Thankfully it has a larger battery than the N5, otherwise I seriously doubt it'd last as long.
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Yeah, I've noticed the lag when swiping to the goole now screen. I'm confident that performance will be better when they give us 5.1, which by then they'll have figured out how to best optimize S810. Best to test out your options, you might even want to consider the M8 which has GPE 5.1 ROMS ready for it. That phone performs and has excellent battery life.

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Yeah, I've noticed the lag when swiping to the goole now screen. I'm confident that performance will be better when they give us 5.1, which by then they'll have figured out how to best optimize S810. Best to test out your options, you might even want to consider the M8 which has GPE 5.1 ROMS ready for it. That phone performs and has excellent battery life.
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Have you installed the xposed fix memory leak apk? That may help with lag on 5.0.x

BUBBA DUB'S said:
Have you installed the xposed fix memory leak apk? That may help with lag on 5.0.x
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Yeah I have (doesn't it only fix that off screen animation bug?). The lag when scrolling to the google now screen affects my M8 as well if I recall correctly.

Cryosx said:
Yeah I have (doesn't it only fix that off screen animation bug?). The lag when scrolling to the google now screen affects my M8 as well if I recall correctly.
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I thought it reduced the over all RAM usage from the system over a prolonged period of time. I thought that might affect lag overall on the phone, but I could be mistaken. I haven't experienced any lag on my device yet so I was just throwing out ideas.

Have you tried rooting and putting leedroid on it. It's a beast. No lag. No stutter. Smooth

I never experienced any lags except when gaming during charging the battery with a speed charger.
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I thought it reduced the over all RAM usage from the system over a prolonged period of time. I thought that might affect lag overall on the phone, but I could be mistaken. I haven't experienced any lag on my device yet so I was just throwing out ideas.
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Same, lag isn't a problem except for when using google now launcher and swiping to the left for the google now screen. It's minor, but annoying nonetheless. For the OP who was used to the Nexus 5's smoothness it's probably extremely noticeable.

Cryosx said:
Same, lag isn't a problem except for when using google now launcher and swiping to the left for the google now screen. It's minor, but annoying nonetheless. For the OP who was used to the Nexus 5's smoothness it's probably extremely noticeable.
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True, I actually got rid of google now because it was annoying me every time my phone slipped out of my hand and started it. I still am hopeful knowing the m9 should get multiple updates in the future and run 5.1.

dondavis007 said:
I never experienced any lags except when gaming during charging the battery with a speed charger.
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why would you game while charging the s810 is power hungry i would be careful not killing my battery this way

reubenskelly1992 said:
Have you tried rooting and putting leedroid on it. It's a beast. No lag. No stutter. Smooth
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Wont make a difference, its the phone to blame to for now. I got 2 devices both same problems at times and tried everything for it, the roms run fine but battery life still bad and weird charging problems for me

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Wont make a difference, its the phone to blame to for now. I got 2 devices both same problems at times and tried everything for it, the roms run fine but battery life still bad and weird charging problems for me
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Weird

hamdir said:
why would you game while charging the s810 is power hungry i would be careful not killing my battery this way
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Because I only gaming before going to bed. Look at my sig and guess if I keep it long enough to notice
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dondavis007 said:
Because I only gaming before going to bed. Look at my sig and guess if I keep it long enough to notice
Sent from a mobile gadget.
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still you are brute forcing the M9 into throttling its GPU this way and about the best thing on the M9 is actually gaming speed thanks to it's very powerful GPU

Coming from a M8, at first i was a little frustrated for the overheating and the camera of the M9. But then, neither the m7 or m8 were great cameras.
I read a lot of reviews and even started thinking of selling the M9 but swap for what? S6 ? God no, please, no more touchwiz. Lg,i had the lg3 and it was L(a)G and slow, much slower than the M8 (i know, different screen's resolution). So, in the end, i prefer keep the M9, the camera improve a lot with the update, and many more updates will come.
Then, there is sense 7, sense is one of my favourites android skins. Light, smart and very, very fast. I absolutely have no lag in M9 (all stock). And i use a lot blinkfeed, i missed it in any non Htc phone. And there is the boomsound, the touch to awake screen...

When you say you have lag with Google Now cards, I'm assuming you are using the Google Launcher. I have noticed some lag here and there with the Google launcher, but the stock Sense launcher performs admirably. It's quick and never seems to drop frames when gaming either. How did you leave the phone stock before you started flashing different ROMs to it? I think that may actually be the issue. Every review of the M9 has stated that the phone is smooth and HTC's software is better than ever. Messing with the software may be what's causing the poor experience.

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why would you game while charging the s810 is power hungry i would be careful not killing my battery this way
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I occassionally play a round of Boom Beach, Clash of Clans or Limbo while the phone is on the charger. Can you elaborate a bit on how this could "kill the battery"? Is it related to charging while the GPU is cranking up the thermals?
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When you say you have lag with Google Now cards, I'm assuming you are using the Google Launcher. I have noticed some lag here and there with the Google launcher, but the stock Sense launcher performs admirably. It's quick and never seems to drop frames when gaming either. How did you leave the phone stock before you started flashing different ROMs to it? I think that may actually be the issue. Every review of the M9 has stated that the phone is smooth and HTC's software is better than ever. Messing with the software may be what's causing the poor experience.
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I'm using the stock Sense launcher and my phone is buttery smooth. While I don't use the Google Now Launcher, Google Now performs great on this phone.
All of the games that I play are also super smooth. Granted, I don't play games that demand a high frame rate, but those games that I do play are far smoother on this phone than my old M7.
The one issue I had with the phone was what seemed like spotty issues with wifi. I did a cache partition wipe yesterday and it seems to have helped the issue.

Galaxy S8 (European Exynos) - performance - scroll stuttering

Hi,
I'm really disappointed, I got my brand new s8 yesterday, and it looks and feels amazing like really really great.
Sadely it stutters a lot after a few swipes scrolling down in many apps, most disappointing were Instagram and Fenix, two perfectly smooth apps on my Pixel.
Is my device defective? What's your experience?
I think I 'm going to return it though
Best,
Dreadk

Instagram feels fine while scrolling ... even fast scrolling is good.
Maybe your Inet connection bandwidth?

My s8 stutters. I have no lag in instagram. Samsung browser lags a lot, also apparant on xda-dev forum site. My s7 edge never stuttered, it's buttery smooth. Both devices are Exynos. I am contemplating about returning it and sticking to my galaxy s7 edge. Batterylife also is worse than my s7 edge. On my s7 edge, I averaged at around 1000-1500mAh used for the battery. On my s8, I averaged at around 800-900mAh....
My phone is always warm, Android System is also quite high at about 10% when the display is at 40%. I am not happy with the S8. My s7 edge is much louder with dualspeakermod as well. The s8 has a very very weak earpiece speaker, so dualspeakermod won't be amazing at all.
Rear-facing camera favours retaining highlights on the s8. On the s7 edge it always wants to up the shadows. S8 camera has less noise but it's nothing special compared to my s7 edge.
Front facing camera is nice on the s8...but the autofocus is a pain in the ass. On the s7 edge, focus is always perfect due to fixed focus. On s7 edge, sometimes it needs refocus and can result in blurred image....

I got a 500Mb fiber and my Pixel on the same wifi scrolls smoothly anyway.
Wish it could be a simple fix like that ^^

Wow looks like you have much more complaints than I do, anyway I didn't test the phone further, smooth scrolling is one on my most wanted feature ; so I stopped digging deeper.
Why no reviewer did notice this stuff though?
I remember it was the same with iPhone 7 stuttering everywhere (10.3 greatly improved that recently, but too late).

Guys,
How are you installing your apps?
Are you doing a transfer from old phone to S8?
Sometimes installing apps fresh is best. Also double check your settings.
I usually use Nova Launcher so will see what the stock launcher is like for a day or two and then decide if Nova will be better.

I did a transfer first and then two factory reset installs (only installing instagram and fenix) because I couldn't believe it
I wonder if it's not an Exynos only problem, I suspect Samsung might have optimized the snapdragon / US version much more than the European one; US market is way more important I guess.
Any clue about that?

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I usually use Nova Launcher so will see what the stock launcher is like for a day or two and then decide if Nova will be better.
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Nova launcher works fine

Dreadk said:
I did a transfer first and then two factory reset installs (only installing instagram and fenix) because I couldn't believe it
I wonder if it's not an Exynos only problem, I suspect Samsung might have optimized the snapdragon / US version much more than the European one; US market is way more important I guess.
Any clue about that?
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I have the US Verizon variant and mine lags a lot. Tons of jank when simply pulling down the Notification Shade. Very disappointed. Doesn't matter whether I run the TW or GN launchers; both do the same thing. For having a SnapDragon 835 and a truckload of RAM, I expected it to be very smooth. I've tried turning down the display to just HD and that didn't make any difference at all.

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I have the US Verizon variant and mine lags a lot. Tons of jank when simply pulling down the Notification Shade. Very disappointed. Doesn't matter whether I run the TW or GN launchers; both do the same thing. For having a SnapDragon 835 and a truckload of RAM, I expected it to be very smooth. I've tried turning down the display to just HD and that didn't make any difference at all.
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I have a US GS8 on VZW and I actually feel this is the smoothest device I've ever used. I'm coming (back to Android after a mini break) from an iPhone 7 Plus and in some places the GS8 is smoother and more fluid than the iPhone. It's way better than what Android used to be.
Maybe there's an app or something running in the background?

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I have a US GS8 on VZW and I actually feel this is the smoothest device I've ever used. I'm coming (back to Android after a mini break) from an iPhone 7 Plus and in some places the GS8 is smoother and more fluid than the iPhone. It's way better than what Android used to be.
Maybe there's an app or something running in the background?
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I thought that too but this did it right out of the box before I even started loading apps. I'd love to figure out what's wrong. Considered doing an FDR just for the sake of doing it before I get too comfortable with the initial setup, as I know I'm lazy and will put it off. I mean could I have a CPU disabled or something? I guess I could contact Samsung support but I'm assuming they are going to be swamped for the next couple of weeks... but need an answer before my return window comes up.

Lucky Armpit said:
I have the US Verizon variant and mine lags a lot. Tons of jank when simply pulling down the Notification Shade. Very disappointed. Doesn't matter whether I run the TW or GN launchers; both do the same thing. For having a SnapDragon 835 and a truckload of RAM, I expected it to be very smooth. I've tried turning down the display to just HD and that didn't make any difference at all.
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I have a US GS8 on VZW and I actually feel this is the smoothest device I've ever used. I'm coming (back to Android after a mini break) from an iPhone 7 Plus and in some places the GS8 is smoother and more fluid than the iPhone. It's way better than what Android used to be.
Maybe there's an app or something running in the background?

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Maybe there's an app or something running in the background?
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As I said, I factory reset two times, only installing instagram and fenix after initial setup and without modifying any option. No luck
Maybe I got a defective unit.

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Why no reviewer did notice this stuff though?
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Because everyone configures their phone differently and the likely cause of these random issues isn't the phone it's some combination of user specific apps and settings.

Dreadk said:
I did a transfer first and then two factory reset installs (only installing instagram and fenix) because I couldn't believe it
I wonder if it's not an Exynos only problem, I suspect Samsung might have optimized the snapdragon / US version much more than the European one; US market is way more important I guess.
Any clue about that?
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I remember a few years ago when the note 5 was released. Boy did that phone lag, it was unbelievable. The thing is not many people would notice it and like you I use fenix and talon for Twitter and if a phone lags on these 2 apps it's glaringly obvious for me. Please let me know how you get on with this as was hoping to get a s8 from work.

BarryH_GEG said:
Because everyone configures their phone differently and the likely cause of these random issues isn't the phone it's some combination of user specific apps and settings.
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Please read my posts, I did factory reset the phone two times only installing instagram and fenix, not changing any settings.
Definitely not user specific, I wish it could be though, easy fix...

marvi0 said:
Please let me know how you get on with this as was hoping to get a s8 from work.
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I did a video, can you see the stutter (the video is 60fps) ?
https://youtu.be/YTTYtT8JR_U
The worst part is around 12 to 17 sec.

give the phone a bit of time to adapt, there is always small updates to fix these minor issues

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give the phone a bit of time to adapt, there is always small updates to fix these minor issues
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Guess you're right, I'm quite sure the stutter is caused by Samsung software trying too hard to smooth the scrolling.
Because to get the stutter I must scroll without pause, if I pause and scroll again things stay smooth.
I really hope they fix that soon but what if they don't and I can't return the phone...
PS: it tooks Apple 6 months to fix the same kind of issues on the iPhone 7.

UK s8. Upgraded from a Google Pixel and it feels like a downgrade in terms of speed and smoothness. Not buttery at all. Stutters everywhere!
Seriously, Samsung? Don't they test these things?

Ram management issues?

Wanted to buy a S8 in the next couple of weeks, but I've see videos on Youtube showcasing S8 is poor at ram management while comparing to G6, do you guys believe these issues can be fixed by software update? Or is it a hardware problem?
I wouldnt like to use a flagship who cant keep Youtube chrome frequently in background after just opening a few apps.

Ram management is software, but I think its no issue. About 10-12 apps are sufficient for me.

garret1976 said:
Ram management is software, but I think its no issue. About 10-12 apps are sufficient for me.
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Are you using the Exynos one or the Snapdragon one?
I've come across many different youtube videos and it looked terrible...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEytGhL6Q7w
https://youtu.be/arQIjCJjMZ8?t=8m51s
these two are the obvious one, i really wanted to buy the S8, and i hope more people could tell me their experience about the phone

I'm using an s8 with snap dragon on tmobile network. I own a iPhone 7 and galaxy s7 as well. I repeatedly attempted to use my s7 just to find myself going back to my iPhone almost immediately over the last 6 months. I love the android architecture. If you've used vanilla, you know how smooth it can be. The s7 could not hang with the iPhone in the slightest, however. The iPhone is just smooth. Nothing ever lags. All that being said, when I got the s8, I experienced similar lag, though not as extreme. Now, after the last update, using package disabler to freeze all the nasty Samsung garbage and other bloat, I've had absolutely zero lag. It's almost as smooth as vanilla android, which is a bold statement for TouchWiz. Samsung software is just lousy. Always has been. This is the closest they've come to getting it right, however. I'm loving this phone, and I haven't had any ram management issues. But that's my experience.

robinthebest said:
Are you using the Exynos one or the Snapdragon one?
I've come across many different youtube videos and it looked terrible...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEytGhL6Q7w
https://youtu.be/arQIjCJjMZ8?t=8m51s
these two are the obvious one, i really wanted to buy the S8, and i hope more people could tell me their experience about the phone
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Considering you can buy the phone and try it out for 14 days, why don't you just do that and try it for yourself based on the apps you use on your phone. Videos can be 1 sided really and it is all based on your experience. If you open 8 to 10 apps on a regular basis, you will be fine with no issues. if you open 20 to 30, you will have some that will close and have to reload. It will all depend on your experience and how you use your phone and whether you can handle how this phone does its thing. The phone is an awesome phone and have a lot of positives but it is not a phone for everyone.

al3azim said:
Considering you can buy the phone and try it out for 14 days, why don't you just do that and try it for yourself based on the apps you use on your phone. Videos can be 1 sided really and it is all based on your experience. If you open 8 to 10 apps on a regular basis, you will be fine with no issues. if you open 20 to 30, you will have some that will close and have to reload. It will all depend on your experience and how you use your phone and whether you can handle how this phone does its thing. The phone is an awesome phone and have a lot of positives but it is not a phone for everyone.
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Well there isn't such service in HK, thats why responses in here is what I looking for, I just dont want to be disappointed because I am a long time Galaxy fan, only skipped the S7 and now having huge expectation for this phone

I'm using a Exynos S8+ and am amazed at how many apps it can keep alive compared to my past Samsung phones. And that includes the Note7. I'm a productivity user though so can't speak to games.

lags and stutter with bad battery life

Just got my s8 Exynos and sold my iPhone 7 Plus. And damn this phone is laggy. Lags and stutter everywhere and the battery is a joke.

Too funny. Get your 7 Plus back - soon! [emoji6]

This super accurate problem description is a joke. Should've stayed with the "easy to use" iPhone 7 Plus with their infinite battery life.

You're right. I should!

Why do X-iphone users always come here to guilt others on their inability to bother or take the time to understand and learn the new OS they just moved to ?
Better yet, they always threatin to go back to using iphones as if the whole world gonna fall apart by such a decision.
OP: use whatever device makes you happy and dont guilt/ blame others if you think you made a bad decision

I have no issues ... mine runs smooth! US Unlocked!

I have personally never thought an Android to be a mistake. I have used Nokia phones, then bought my first Android device in 2008 from T-Mobile (HTC Dream) and this is how it all started... I did have few iPhone that I used each one up to a month(just to test it out) and I found the device to be boring (my personal opinion) and I realized that I am missing so many convenient features on iOS compared to Android. By the way, none of my Android phones had bad battery life and I charge my phone not earlier than after 38 + hours, but usually at the end of second day. The only thing that I have noticed with iPhone is that it is for people that don't like adventure, don't like change, don't like being in control of the situation and like being told what to do, instead of making a decision of their own. (IMO)

I'm not a Apple fan in any way. I've had nexus, galaxy s2, s3, s6, s7 edge, note 2, note 4 and some HTC, LG and many more android phones.
I only changed to iPhone 7 Plus because of my work. They bought me the phone and an Apple watch.
And I was surprised when I started using s8 when it comes to stutter and bad battery life. Much worse than s7 edge and iPhone 7

So there must be something wrong with your device. What about a factory reset?

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So there must be something wrong with your device. What about a factory reset?
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I did. Did also uninstall almost all 3rd party apps and lowered the resolution to HD+.
I'll report later.

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Just got my s8 Exynos and sold my iPhone 7 Plus. And damn this phone is laggy. Lags and stutter everywhere and the battery is a joke.
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I had an exynos S7 edge and had enough of the lag. Now I'm using a Sony XZ Premium and no lag at all. It has been amazing for me. Battery life is better than my S7 Edge too. I won't be going back to a Samsung device anytime soon.

OP:
imo android is not for everyone, it is for those who like to be in charge of whats going in the background and having much more info and control over the os than say apple.
On the other hand iphones os controls and background apps are regulated by apple policies, servers and etc to make it fool proof Which is a must for the simple average user.
Example: many of the threads here mentions 100% of your device problems ( lags, stuttering, ****ty battery, yada yada) while 99% of the time the reason for such stutters is bixby mapping apps or a corrupted SD card or a user introduced malware app ( kinda makes sence why there is no external storage on iphones and must be connected to itunes for any downloading etc..)
Again, judging from your andoid history that you mentioned, and the way you reacted cause you have no idea why your s8 is having performance issues, imo iphones suites you better.
Cheers !

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OP:
imo android is not for everyone, it is for those who like to be in charge of whats going in the background and having much more info and control over the os than say apple.
On the other hand iphones os controls and background apps are regulated by apple policies, servers and etc to make it fool proof Which is a must for the simple average user.
Example: many of the threads here mentions 100% of your device problems ( lags, stuttering, ****ty battery, yada yada) while 99% of the time the reason for such stutters is bixby mapping apps or a corrupted SD card or a user introduced malware app ( kinda makes sence why there is no external storage on iphones and must be connected to itunes for any downloading etc..)
Again, judging from your andoid history that you mentioned, and the way you reacted cause you have no idea why your s8 is having performance issues, imo iphones suites you better.
Cheers !
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I agree to disagree. 90% of all my phones has been Android. Take S7 Edge as an example. It worked flawless. Only issue I had with it was the sensitive screen when typing.
I tried my friends Pixel and also one OP5, can only say that there's no lag nor stutter at all. How come it's only S8? Make a fast googling and you'll see all the complaints about the same issue that I'm experiencing.
My last two cents, it's not android, it's TouchWiz.

So the problem is fixed now? I deleted 60% of my apps, lowered the resolution to HD+ and now I've got 6h SoT and no stutter nor lag.
This one thing was not missed on my iPhone. I could use any app from the app store without worry about the performance and the battery.

^If this is all you are able to get out of Android, nobody can help you!