so yeah i got my s8 today i'm willing to be a tester for custom rom i want to root mine now so any dev hit me up please
It isn't globally released yet... Be patient
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kevje1406 said:
It isn't globally released yet... Be patient
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it is for me i got mine today i got mine early pre order
This is not a requests/discussion subforum, this is the development subforum.
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This is not a requests/discussion subforum, this is the development subforum.
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exactly why i asked about it so we can get it to root get all the devs together
I don't think the USA version will get root for months
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looks like i'm going with exynos version again
If you root, S health (spo2, heart rate meter), secure storage and probably more things stop working for forever if you trip knox. Be very carful friend. Sad days will be ahead if your too brash.
SyLvEsTeR20007 said:
If you root, S health (spo2, heart rate meter), secure storage and probably more things stop working for forever if you trip knox. Be very carful friend. Sad days will be ahead if your too brash.
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Don't know about the rest but my S7 Edge is rooted (and Knox tripped) and S Health works fine so far as I am aware.
xxmcvapourxx said:
so yeah i got my s8 today i'm willing to be a tester for custom rom i want to root mine now so any dev hit me up please
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There's a 95% chance this phone won't see root in the 1st year.
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There's a 95% chance this phone won't see root in the 1st year.
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we will if someone can get me the recovery and firmware and i start looking and start testing it hopefully some devs when they get s8 they can help out...
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There's a 95% chance this phone won't see root in the 1st year.
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Sure it does. Altough the exynos version ( wich i have ?)
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SyLvEsTeR20007 said:
If you root, S health (spo2, heart rate meter), secure storage and probably more things stop working for forever if you trip knox. Be very carful friend. Sad days will be ahead if your too brash.
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That's bull****. I am rooted running echoerom s8 port. Knox working s health working and samsung pay working and safetynet passed. Do your homework and get your facts straight
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If you root, S health (spo2, heart rate meter), secure storage and probably more things stop working for forever if you trip knox. Be very carful friend. Sad days will be ahead if your too brash.
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I for one could care less about S Health and Knox. On my previous Samsung devices those are the first things to get removed once I get root. :laugh:
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we will if someone can get me the recovery and firmware and i start looking and start testing it hopefully some devs when they get s8 they can help out...
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It doesn't work that easily...
Someone has to discover an exploit or they crack the bootloader. The way you're talking about, cracking the bootloader and loading a custom rooted ROM through recovery, on North American Galaxy devices might as well be a pipe dream. And finding an exploit and rooting the stock ROM usually takes months or years. Every release of Android (especially Samsung versions) makes it harder to exploit.
Someone could get lucky but extremely unlikely.
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It doesn't work that easily...
Someone has to discover an exploit or they crack the bootloader. The way you're talking about, cracking the bootloader and loading a custom rooted ROM through recovery, on North American Galaxy devices might as well be a pipe dream. And finding an exploit and rooting the stock ROM usually takes months or years. Every release of Android (especially Samsung versions) makes it harder to exploit.
Someone could get lucky but extremely unlikely.
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i dont care about usa phones, I'm very good at finding exploits i've moved across from the ps3/ps4 scene so it be interesting to see what the s8 exploits are like...Uk ftw...
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I for one could care less about S Health and Knox. On my previous Samsung devices those are the first things to get removed once I get root. :laugh:
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Good for you, once it's gone, it's gone. No turning back, plus your resale value is worthless too.
Not every one wants that result after rooting it. Your life but I warn for those people who are not aware of what's at stake.
Bah- nothing is at stake. Name 1 warranty claim that was denied because of root. ONE. I've been on these boards since Android 1.x. I have yet to see anyone denied a warranty claim because their phone was rooted.
Dropped, water damage, stolen, etc. - sure. But not due to software. Stop the FUD.
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Bah- nothing is at stake. Name 1 warranty claim that was denied because of root. ONE. I've been on these boards since Android 1.x. I have yet to see anyone denied a warranty claim because their phone was rooted.
Dropped, water damage, stolen, etc. - sure. But not due to software. Stop the FUD.
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Ditto, legally in the US they can't deny warranty claims for hardware UNLESS they can prove the software modifications led to the hardware failure (good luck with that) and the only thing I could think of that could potentially damage hardware is overclocking.
That being said there are several reports of warranties being denied when the knox counter is flipped but at the same time there are others that have had warranty repair done with no problems.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517816&page=13
As for root on the s8, every year it seems to get harder and harder to root these phones but I would imagine as popular as Samsung is you'll probably get root within months.
I myself won't buy one until I can root it Samsung is the HP of smartphones, tons of garbage software preloaded.
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SyLvEsTeR20007 said:
Good for you, once it's gone, it's gone. No turning back, plus your resale value is worthless too.
Not every one wants that result after rooting it. Your life but I warn for those people who are not aware of what's at stake.
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Not really. You can always flash stock and restore. :angel:
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Not really. You can always flash stock and restore. :angel:
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Sorry mate, does not work like that. It will trip the KNOX fues and when you flash stock back, it still knows it was rooted.
I have my S6 Edge 128GB flashed with network stock firmware from Sam Mobile firmware repo and I can not use the S Health app because it says that the device has had its security compromised, even though it is now running a vanilla samsung firmware with no root.
Don't be so quick to think you know it all friend. If your so sure, I dare you to root it and then restore a stock firmware and try open a KNOX app, Shealth included and watch as it ***** slaps you for doing that. Bye Bye SPO2 meter, Hearth rate meter, secure folder and all the other stuff that can be of use.
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Is anyone gonna make a ROM seriously, this sucks. Why is no one interested in this thing, it sucks
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Is anyone gonna make a ROM seriously, this sucks. Why is no one interested in this thing, it sucks
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my guess is the whole knox thing kinda turned everyone off to rooting. i agree though, it does suck.
The worst part is that I'm in love with this pen, and don't know if I could give it up, but Damn this sucks having no roms, and not just no roms, but seemingly no one hardly at all interested in ANY kind of dev work hardly....total crap
lol I'm still waiting for a 0x0 root for the P600, I'm pretty sure the chances of this happening are slim to none at this point, but I'll wait it out for a few months. Not a fan of voiding the warranty for a 600 dollar piece of hardware.
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lol I'm still waiting for a 0x0 root for the P600, I'm pretty sure the chances of this happening are slim to none at this point, but I'll wait it out for a few months. Not a fan of voiding the warranty for a 600 dollar piece of hardware.
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I would think it's just one published kernel exploit away. My interpretation of the Knox Warranty piece is it gets flagged when you flash improperly signed files. Finding an exploit that is done while running Android may not set the warranty flag.
I see a lot of threads now are offering money to someone who makes a rom, perhaps those interested could pledge something(including me) which might sway someone to making something...... just a thought
I rooted and don't really give a crap about tripping Knox.
I've made ROMs in the past, but I need the source files. Right now I'm waiting for either Samsung or someone else to publish the files for MK1 and I might do something with that.
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The creator of the Android Revolution roms (android-revolution-hd.blogspot.de) Mike1986 is currently running a pledgie to buy a Note 10.1 2014. If your interested in supporting, the Link is on his Facebook page.
Who cares about a KNOX free root it trips KNOX no matter what if you have a custom recovery. Plus I dont care about warranty. I have never had to return anything due to warranty. I have had 4 iPhones,4 androids, 2 ipads and I figure if its not messed up in the first 30 day then nothing will happen and if it does it will happen past the one year warranty.
Plus it sucks everyone raised money for BEAN and he bolted that was pretty uncool.
Gitbrew has had luck with the PS4, we have a p600 en route.
DudeDelu said:
The creator of the Android Revolution roms (android-revolution-hd.blogspot.de) Mike1986 is currently running a pledgie to buy a Note 10.1 2014. If your interested in supporting, the Link is on his Facebook page.
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Ahh. He is promising for this tablet. Maybe we should do a pledge thread and all add a bit of money in and aim towards p600 for obvious reasons. He could preduce something better than me and probably most people in this forum.
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Who cares about a KNOX free root it trips KNOX no matter what if you have a custom recovery. Plus I dont care about warranty. I have never had to return anything due to warranty. I have had 4 iPhones,4 androids, 2 ipads and I figure if its not messed up in the first 30 day then nothing will happen and if it does it will happen past the one year warranty.
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I care about a KNOX free (0x0) root. I don't need a custom recovery, I just want TB and other goodies. I don't imagine I'm the only one.
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Who cares about a KNOX free root it trips KNOX no matter what if you have a custom recovery. Plus I dont care about warranty. I have never had to return anything due to warranty. I have had 4 iPhones,4 androids, 2 ipads and I figure if its not messed up in the first 30 day then nothing will happen and if it does it will happen past the one year warranty.
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I have to agree. I have been using android and Winmo devices for a long time including tablets. I have rooted then all and have never had to return one to the manufacturer. I rooted last night (I rooted my Note III the day I got it). SInce I have never had to use a warranty, the benefits of rooting outweighed preserving the warranty. Nothing like being able to use such great apps as Titanium Backup or Ad-away to enhance my experience with my device.
Regardless, a 0x0 root would be nice for those of us who want to retain warranty. Not interested in installing a custom recovery anyway if it trips knox. Those of you who didn't care are rooted already.
I'm not giving anyone money on a promise. I'd donate afterwards. Too many times I've read people getting screwed by shady devs.
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I care about a KNOX free (0x0) root. I don't need a custom recovery, I just want TB and other goodies. I don't imagine I'm the only one.
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Regardless, a 0x0 root would be nice for those of us who want to retain warranty. Not interested in installing a custom recovery anyway if it trips knox. Those of you who didn't care are rooted already.
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^^^ This.
For me, it's not so much that I care about the warranty (the place I bought it from allows holiday returns through 1/31/2014, so I could even trip KNOX and still return it), it's just that there's so little dev activity on this device, including just a stock rooted ROM, that you don't want to trip KNOX or else you're likely not getting KitKat.
The latest 4.3 update for the Note 2 phone brought KNOX to the Note 2. I was running basically stock rooted anyway, but at least there's a little more dev activity on the Note 2 so a KNOX-free stock rooted ROM was released very quickly after the OTA.
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I'm not giving anyone money on a promise. I'd donate afterwards. Too many times I've read people getting screwed by shady devs.
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This is my policy for everything in my life -- not just dev projects on XDA. I don't pay for something that doesn't yet exist and/or isn't proven/working yet. I also think that if devs buy their own hardware they end up more committed to the particular device rather than putting out one ROM to justify taking the bounty and then moving on to the next device bounty (with no updates, maintenance, fixes, etc.).
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Plus it sucks everyone raised money for BEAN and he bolted that was pretty uncool.
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Well he brought root to the device, this is what the bounty was for, I see no foul play here.
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sbattosai said:
Well he brought root to the device, this is what the bounty was for, I see no foul play here.
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+1. I paid my pledge happily. I wanted root and nobody else was working on it. The knox thing doesn't concern me at all.
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Plus it sucks everyone raised money for BEAN and he bolted that was pretty uncool.
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Don't go there man.... He did what he was paid to and that's that. ... bad mouthing him isn't going to get him to come back and make a rom.... honestly I don't blame him for returning it I'm about to I think. .. what the he'll is the point in having top notch hardware when you can't get any dev work happening on it....just retarded
What other tablet is out there though that even comes close in hardware specs but has at least half assed support
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swaggerjacker said:
I'm not giving anyone money on a promise. I'd donate afterwards. Too many times I've read people getting screwed by shady devs.
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That's not how a pledge works. If you've read about something happening it wasn't done in the proper way. A pledge is when you promise to out forward a certain amount of money when a certain goal is reached. If that goal isn't reached to your satisfaction then you don't send the money. That is that. But better not get caught asking for support on the item in question....
Since tomorrow is the official release day, what are you expecting?
Most people here already have had the phone for over a week in the US or 2 days now in the UK due to pre order early shipment so not expecting much to be honest
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Got mine Monday in the mail from best buy. I'm anxious for roms finally. First phone in about 5 years with an unlocked bootloader
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Got mine Monday in the mail from best buy. I'm anxious for roms finally. First phone in about 5 years with an unlocked bootloader
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This is the first Sammy phone I haven't been too fussed about rooting purely because it just seems to work really well and as much as having root appeals to me the disadvantages of not having samsung pay puts me off
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Since tomorrow is the official release day, what are you expecting?
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Pretty much what we've seen in the reviews and read in the forum, but on sale in more places.
stierney said:
This is the first Sammy phone I haven't been too fussed about rooting purely because it just seems to work really well and as much as having root appeals to me the disadvantages of not having samsung pay puts me off
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Isn't that only if Knox is tripped? Surely a root will become available soon enough that doesn't trip it
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Isn't that only if Knox is tripped? Surely a root will become available soon enough that doesn't trip it
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You would hope but it is getting harder and harder not to root but to root undetected and use financial applications such as banking and pay software.
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Isn't that only if Knox is tripped? Surely a root will become available soon enough that doesn't trip it
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There has not been a root that doesn't trip Knox (aside from the occasional exploit that gets immediately patched) since the S4. Don't root the S7 unless you're content tripping Knox, losing Samsung Pay & Android Pay, and potentially losing your warranty.
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There has not been a root that doesn't trip Knox (aside from the occasional exploit that gets immediately patched) since the S4. Don't root the S7 unless you're content tripping Knox, losing Samsung Pay & Android Pay, and potentially losing your warranty.
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My S5 is rooted by flashing a kernel, allowing use of towel root, then flashing a pre rooted update and Knox isn't tripped still. And I don't update my devices unless it's a pre modded update; disabled auto updates. So yes, I do believe it's possible
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My S5 is rooted by flashing a kernel, allowing use of towel root, then flashing a pre rooted update and Knox isn't tripped still. And I don't update my devices unless it's a pre modded update; disabled auto updates. So yes, I do believe it's possible
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That wasn't possible on the S6, and Samsung ups their security game with each device. Don't hold your breath waiting for a root that doesn't trip Knox on the S7.
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That wasn't possible on the S6, and Samsung ups their security game with each device. Don't hold your breath waiting for a root that doesn't trip Knox on the S7.
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Going off of that, would an xposed module be possible to re-enable such features? With root on my S5, I can't use s health or private mode unless I have an xprivacy tweak enabled.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/help/s7-s7-edge-root-t3321556/page16 Look there and you'll see it looks like root has finally been achieved. Sounds like they installed the newest TWRP and then using that flashed supersu. It does trip Knox though. I'm about to head off to work so I can't test this now but it looks promising.
Yeah source code is out for g930f & g935f but as that op says:
jcadduono said:
For those of you with G930FD, G930T, G930W8, G930P....be patient, I'm waiting for Samsung to release the kernel sources. The trees are already ready, just waiting on kernels...
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Yeah source code is out for g930f & g935f but as that op says:
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Well, I guess I shouldn't have opened this thread then. That's what I get for trying to think that early in the morning.
sweet, i have my s7 on the charger waiting for the root so i can switch over from the s6
rmyc said:
sweet, i have my s7 on the charger waiting for the root so i can switch over from the s6
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Looks like you may be charging that thing for a while, then. Seems that even the T-Mobile version is subject to the plague that is the locked bootloader for right now. Hopefully someone can figure something out or Samsung releases something along the lines of HTC's bootloader unlock for us. For once, the Snapdragon appears to be more crippled than the Exynos.
Yeah. I wouldn't count on anything any time soon. Not days, not weeks....
If you want a root able device. I would suggest taking the phone back.
Ummmmm, do you guys know what's going on with root on the US versions?
http://www.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7-bootloader-lock-explained-you-might-not-get-aosp-after-all/
Yes that's old news.
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Yes that's old news.
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Then perhaps a change in thread title is worth considering until the situation changes :good:
start a facebook group to pressure samsung to release the lock,??
schreckles said:
Looks like you may be charging that thing for a while, then. Seems that even the T-Mobile version is subject to the plague that is the locked bootloader for right now. Hopefully someone can figure something out or Samsung releases something along the lines of HTC's bootloader unlock for us. For once, the Snapdragon appears to be more crippled than the Exynos.
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What are you talking about? T-Mobile has an unlocked boot loader. It's been confirmed dozens of times. Where are you getting your information from?
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MacTheRipperr said:
What are you talking about? T-Mobile has an unlocked boot loader. It's been confirmed dozens of times. Where are you getting your information from?
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Ummmmm, no.
Galaxy S7 Bootloader Lock Explained: You Might Not Get AOSP After All | XDA Developers
ROOT DISCUSSION - R.I.P. Sticky Root Guide - SM-G935T -> STATUS -> LOCKED BOOTLOADER
Unless John Legere at TMO can sway the powers-that-be at Samsung to unlock the bootloader for the G930T/G935T (and supposedly he's trying), nobody will be rooting any time soon.
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What are you talking about? T-Mobile has an unlocked boot loader. It's been confirmed dozens of times. Where are you getting your information from?
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You must not get on here much. This is the biggest story lately and the reason why everyone is mad/frantic.
TMOBILE locked the bootloader John is playing us after 14 days when return period is up he will tell you guys Samsung said no its has nothing to do with Samsung it's the u.s carriers with the new leasing programs, warranty exchanges, and unauthorized tethering...They are losing money from phones which have been rooted
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I understand everyone being upset about the latest development but some need to calm down a bit. Not saying it's anyone in this thread though some comments are a bit over the top. Maybe some people are new around here or others have the memory of a goldfish but this isn't' the first time this has happened to a device. There are a multitude of ways around this. Motorola who is known for locking bootloaders with almost a hatred for consumers, was defeated with the combined effort of many people on XDA. They managed to find the key to unlock the bootloader and it was smooth sailing from there.
Will we obtain the key? Quite possibly. we'll either do it the hard way and get lucky running a program on multiple computers and phones to decrypt it. The other option is that it'll be leaked by an internal source (probably the most likely). Samsung might even give us a dev program to unlock it similar to HTC. The fact is Samsung doesn't want a large customer base to be this unhappy. We are the most influential consumer base as well. Think of all the changes and additions to Android over the past few years. Changes that started here first and were adopted by manufacturers. They use us and in a way, need us to show them what people want. Let's not forget that XDA is the most influential Android site on the net. If Samsung gets snuffed here badly it'll spread very quickly.
TL;DR It'll happen one way or another guys. Chill out. May not be in the time frame we're use to these days (remember waiting weeks to months for root back in the day?) but it will happen. focus on pressuring those who can exact change into doing so. For the ones capable of it you should focus on ways around this.
I for one am not worried. I had a Motorola Defy that had a locked bootloader. By the time I had bought the phone though it had been out for a few months and people had found a way to put custom roms on it so I was happy.
At least I know I'll be able to keep my Samsung pay around for a bit ?
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At least I know I'll be able to keep my Samsung pay around for a bit
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lol I use my bank debit card and 2 credit cards. Not a one works with Samsung Pay. But all 3 work on Google Wallet.
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lol I use my bank debit card and 2 credit cards. Not a one works with Samsung Pay. But all 3 work on Google Wallet.
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How does Samsung pay or Google wallet work? How would I know which retailer supports it?
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This thread should be completely deleted.
Just got a software update. I wonder what has changed or improved.
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Not sure. But bootloader is still locked with this, and experts are recommending to hold off on install if you plan on trying to root the device (in case a root exploit is found for the original software version). Remember, once you flash a new software, you cannot go back.
Seems to fix static over bluetooth, at least for me. Persisting with cabled headphones, though.
I noticed that it re-enables the things you have disabled with Package Disabler Pro.
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge
How do you disable automatic updates ?
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I just did the update, TOOK FOREVER IT SEEMED....but I am very impatient. Afterwards, it seems that things are smoother and faster, but it could just be the placebo effect. I will be watching battery life today and see if it improves.
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Not sure. But bootloader is still locked with this, and experts are recommending to hold off on install if you plan on trying to root the device (in case a root exploit is found for the original software version). Remember, once you flash a new software, you cannot go back.
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Lucky for my, I don't root or anything like that. I'm kind of ocd I like things to be the way they are supposed to be. I tried it once and hated it.
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Not sure. But bootloader is still locked with this, and experts are recommending to hold off on install if you plan on trying to root the device (in case a root exploit is found for the original software version). Remember, once you flash a new software, you cannot go back.
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Although I do believe that Samsung should unlock the bootloader and let people make their own choice about their phone. They just need to make it very clear that if you modify your phone your warranty is voided and your on your own. Sad part is some people will go out there and start playing with stuff and not know what they are doing and then want to blame Samsung when the phone gets messed up.
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My next phone im not rooting
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Although I do believe that Samsung should unlock the bootloader and let people make their own choice about their phone. They just need to make it very clear that if you modify your phone your warranty is voided and your on your own. Sad part is some people will go out there and start playing with stuff and not know what they are doing and then want to blame Samsung when the phone gets messed up.
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I think they've made it abundantly clear that flashing unsigned firmware voids the warranty. And Samsung can then refurb the phone and resell it. The Knox flag effectively protects Samsung from any liability regarding this sort of thing. Making it impossible to "downgrade" to previous software versions, a practice Samsung started a few years ago, was a bad omen. The dawn of the Knox flag added to this downward spiral. Locking the bootloader is a level of control unprecedented for carriers like T Mobile and Sprint, and continues the evolution of Samsung's security deathgrip.
Popped up when I unlocked my phone this morning. It's installing now will play around with it .
nano303 said:
My next phone im not rooting
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then you have nothing to worry about, it is a great phone.
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I "chatted" with T Mobile support around 8:30 am today, they had no idea this update was live. Apparently their databases have not updated.
Probably a good idea to hold off on this for now. What if they find an exploit that lets us root but only for the previous version? This is becoming a lot like iPhone jailbreaking... that's why I switched to this S7 Edge lol. I should have read more about it first.
slayerh4x said:
Probably a good idea to hold off on this for now. What if they find an exploit that lets us root but only for the previous version? This is becoming a lot like iPhone jailbreaking... that's why I switched to this S7 Edge lol. I should have read more about it first.
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Samsung devices on T Mobile have always had unlocked bootloaders (as long as I can remember anyhow), this was a huge surprise for everybody.
It's also not the March security update as its still flagged as Feb 1
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Just rebooted after installing the update. Got a pop-up saying:
"The operating system on your device has been modified in an unauthorized way. Try downloading software updates using Smart Switch on your computer or visit a customer service center"
I haven't modified anything. I haven't even disabled packages. There is obviously no root so I haven't done that either. Weird. Will try a factory restore.
Edit: This was happening after I attempted to check for updates after this mornings update installed. Checked for update again after a 2nd restart and message no longer comes up.
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Samsung devices on T Mobile have always had unlocked bootloaders (as long as I can remember anyhow), this was a huge surprise for everybody.
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Yeah it does seem that way. It really sucks, rooting the phone was one of the big reasons I wanted to switch over. I hope someone is able to find an exploit that allows root. I had android a long time ago and ran Cyanogen mod, that thing was cool. It took the super slow stock LG G1 or whatever it was and made it really fast. I would pay for that on this phone, it has so much potential.
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I think they've made it abundantly clear that flashing unsigned firmware voids the warranty. And Samsung can then refurb the phone and resell it. The Knox flag effectively protects Samsung from any liability regarding this sort of thing. Making it impossible to "downgrade" to previous software versions, a practice Samsung started a few years ago, was a bad omen. The dawn of the Knox flag added to this downward spiral. Locking the bootloader is a level of control unprecedented for carriers like T Mobile and Sprint, and continues the evolution of Samsung's security deathgrip.
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The only issue I have with modding phones is that sometimes when buying used phones the seller doesn't tend to inform the buyer if something is wrong. I bought a phone a few years ago on At&t and realized later that it had Internet but could not make calls out. Apparently the last owner flashed something and messed it up. I ended up selling it for cheap, luckily it worked out for the buyer because the phone would not make calls on At&t but would on T-Mobile and he had T-Mobile.
There should be a bootloader unlocking tool that will let you forfeit all your claiming rights but also put you on a list by you imei number that can tell potential buyer your phone has been modified. While you may wont to modify it I wouldn't wont any of your problems. Worst of all is when you hear there is an update for your phone but you cant get it because your phone was modded with out your knowledge when purchasing.
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idtheftvictim said:
I just did the update, TOOK FOREVER IT SEEMED....but I am very impatient. Afterwards, it seems that things are smoother and faster, but it could just be the placebo effect. I will be watching battery life today and see if it improves.
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I actually don't think its a placebo effect. Could be wrong. On restart, it was much quicker to get to a usable state. The micro stutters I was having seem to be gone. Things are opening quicker as well.
A welcomed update, I have installed on my phone and will see if it improves my battery life which has not been too good.
John Legere is big user of Twitter and other active social media. We should flood his inbox and social media with requests for getting this phones bootloader unlocked. He promised to help with the last one and should be more than willing to help put traction on this.
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John Legere is big user of Twitter and other active social media. We should flood his inbox and social media with requests for getting this phones bootloader unlocked. He promised to help with the last one and should be more than willing to help put traction on this.
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Honestly I don't think John Legere can do anything about Samsung bootloaders now days. Think about it, Samsung expended millions of dollars in their Samsung pay and Knox all together. Samsung doesn't want unlocked bootloaders at least on the USA market due to once you unlocked your bootloader the majority of people root their phones, once you unlocked your bootloader and root your phone you tripped the efuse, once you tripped the efuse, Samsung pay and Knox is not going to work.
Believed or not Samsung pay is very popular here in USA, and Knox is very successful on businesses and corporations.
Believe me, Samsung doesn't want to loose all those profits, from the investment they did on Samsung pay and Knox program, at least not for a handful of people here at XDA. We are probably only 1% or less of samsung customers.
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This has been tried in the past with samsung phones to no avail.
glensta said:
This has been tried in the past with samsung phones to no avail.
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Correct. We tried this many times before tovno avail. They straight up ignore us.
Ugh, when? Because the first time it got so much traction the dev bootloader was released, wasnt it? I actually work for T mobile and follow John religiously. If enough people ask, he will put Samsung on blast.
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Ugh, when? Because the first time it got so much traction the dev bootloader was released, wasnt it? I actually work for T mobile and follow John religiously. If enough people ask, he will put Samsung on blast.
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It didn't work with S7 and S7 Edge, it won't work for S8 nor S8 plus
Loving the enthusiasm here. You guys are a bunch of optimists! Definitely seeing how things get done around here.
Also, root and debloated roms were available for the S7 and Edge because a developer bootloader made it's way onto the internet. Now, I'm not sure t mobile had anything to do with that, but the ground work and traction John laid help make that possible.
Lmax579 said:
It didn't work with S7 and S7 Edge, it won't work for S8 nor S8 plus
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Yes it will, maybe of we keep doing it, he might get something started by the time the s13+ come along. Eventually, he'll be like "For those guys at xda....."
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king3opobn said:
Yes it will, maybe of we keep doing it, he might get something started by the time the s13+ come along. Eventually, he'll be like "For those guys at xda....."
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Hope so
Nothing lost in trying, no sense in crapping on it before even trying. Worst case samsung says no, best case John succeeds and we very the dev bootloaders with a legal disclaimer absolving samsung and tmo from responsibility. But asking needs to happen to KNOW the end result.
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John Legere is big user of Twitter and other active social media. We should flood his inbox and social media with requests for getting this phones bootloader unlocked. He promised to help with the last one and should be more than willing to help put traction on this.
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Don't let him fool you - I think he is close to 100% responsible for the locked US Tmo bootloaders. He only pretended to try and help last time. I got the same runaround from him/them on service issues related to their press releses that all towers were upgraded last fall.
The best fix is too late for those who have foolishly purchased another TMo branded phone - get a 955f. There are no bootloaders locked over there - they would not put up with it.
Custom ROMs have KNOX and android pay working, and saftynet passed on S7s and most of it already working on S8's
gaww said:
Don't let him fool you - I think he is close to 100% responsible for the locked US Tmo bootloaders. He only pretended to try and help last time. I got the same runaround from him/them on service issues related to their press releses that all towers were upgraded last fall.
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If you think there was a meeting in which he decided not to unlock the bootloader of a device, you're probably wrong. He's a CEO, not a phone security expert. Someone else made the call, and there isn't any real corporate reason to even reconsider it.
The international models don't support WiFi calling which is s big deal for those of us traveling internationally.
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Don't let him fool you - I think he is close to 100% responsible for the locked US Tmo bootloaders. He only pretended to try and help last time. I got the same runaround from him/them on service issues related to their press releses that all towers were upgraded last fall.
The best fix is too late for those who have foolishly purchased another TMo branded phone - get a 955f. There are no bootloaders locked over there - they would not put up with it.
Custom ROMs have KNOX and android pay working, and saftynet passed on S7s and most of it already working on S8's
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gaww said:
Don't let him fool you - I think he is close to 100% responsible for the locked US Tmo bootloaders. He only pretended to try and help last time. I got the same runaround from him/them on service issues related to their press releses that all towers were upgraded last fall.
The best fix is too late for those who have foolishly purchased another TMo branded phone - get a 955f. There are no bootloaders locked over there - they would not put up with it.
Custom ROMs have KNOX and android pay working, and saftynet passed on S7s and most of it already working on S8's
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What do you mean they have KNOX working? I thought rooting disabled KNOX.
the_OZONE said:
What do you mean they have KNOX working? I thought rooting disabled KNOX.
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It was shielded by some mods.
However, it looks like Samsung has further tightened up KNOX and it is not working again.
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najoor said:
The international models don't support WiFi calling which is s big deal for those of us traveling internationally.
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Wi-Fi calling works on many custom mods- it is mostly a matter of using the correct CSCs. I used it yesterday.
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We've done this the last two years... Legere will hear your complaint bug do nothing... He claims it's a Samsung issue
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