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Boot Loader Lock and alternate ROMs

Hello,
I am pondering the possibility to buy the Samsung Galaxy S II and have heard quite a few rumors that this phone will have a locked and encrypted boot loader making it impossible to use alternative ROMs.
I am sure hackers will take very little time in fixing this but am still wondering. Has anyone seen tangible claims of encrypted/lock boot compared to the I9000 (which I own atm).
Thanks!

Expansys has a 32 gb model listed as coming april 11th but pricing is not yet announced

galaxinho said:
Expansys has a 32 gb model listed as coming april 11th but pricing is not yet announced
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Yes, no definite date. Doesn't answer my question though

FRLinux said:
Yes, no definite date. Doesn't answer my question though
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Samsung's own website mentions encryption, but doesn't give enough detail for us to know if it'll be custom ROM friendly yet. I'm sure it'll take very little time once the phone is released to let you know, just hold tight until then!

Ayrlupine said:
Samsung's own website mentions encryption, but doesn't give enough detail for us to know if it'll be custom ROM friendly yet. I'm sure it'll take very little time once the phone is released to let you know, just hold tight until then!
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Link please?
I suppose you are referring to the data encryption that Samsung mentioned in its splash page? I really doubt they would post information about a Locked Bootloader on their website as it really wouldn't do them any good publicity wise.

sarsh11 said:
Link please?
I suppose you are referring to the data encryption that Samsung mentioned in its splash page? I really doubt they would post information about a Locked Bootloader on their website as it really wouldn't do them any good publicity wise.
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Yeah, I said encryption. Of course we have no idea about the bootloader until it's released or someone techy gets their hands on one! That's why I said we have to wait. Sorry if my post was ambiguous.

SamFirmware just tweeted, Samsung are using same ODIN for Galaxy S II, just with new .PIT file. So it will be flashable.

Broomfundel said:
SamFirmware just tweeted, Samsung are using same ODIN for Galaxy S II, just with new .PIT file. So it will be flashable.
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Yes saw that but it doesn't mean it is flashable just like that until you see it working. Good start anyway.

FRLinux said:
Hello,
I am pondering the possibility to buy the Samsung Galaxy S II and have heard quite a few rumors that this phone will have a locked and encrypted boot loader making it impossible to use alternative ROMs.
I am sure hackers will take very little time in fixing this but am still wondering. Has anyone seen tangible claims of encrypted/lock boot compared to the I9000 (which I own atm).
Thanks!
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There's already a running topic on this question found here.

Beards said:
There's already a running topic on this question found here.
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Thanks spotted it afterwards.

FRLinux said:
Thanks spotted it afterwards.
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No problem... Your not the only one who has started a topic and found later it's already running.
That link I passed you is actually a second topic on another which was started a day earlier here.
That means we now have three topics covering the same (although each will fragment as further posts are made).

Everyone has their needs/requirements for a phone but for me-personally to fulfill my individual desires and needs it would need to be unlocked 100%. Otherwise I will jsut have to keep my captivate
As I do not approve of manufacturers locking hardware that I paid for with my hard earned money and now own.

HappyBallz said:
Everyone has their needs/requirements for a phone but for me-personally to fulfill my individual desires and needs it would need to be unlocked 100%. Otherwise I will jsut have to keep my captivate
As I do not approve of manufacturers locking hardware that I paid for with my hard earned money and now own.
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Seem the norm these days on android handsets but keep in mind that the mobile market has always liked a locked an tight device.
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SE was from the very few to lock the bootloader with X10 and now they decided to unlock the simfree Arc, HTC locked their Incredible S in another hand
I don't think sammy will lock the bootloader,just a little security for the formalities that can be easily decoded by happy devs

vegetaleb said:
SE was from the very few to lock the bootloader with X10 and now they decided to unlock the simfree Arc, HTC locked their Incredible S in another hand
I don't think sammy will lock the bootloader,just a little security for the formalities that can be easily decoded by happy devs
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Yes over time there is always a way. But that said, new devices tend to have better boot loader locking.

Has there been any update on whether the S2 have a locked bootloader?

monkley said:
Has there been any update on whether the S2 have a locked bootloader?
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Search this very forum. Several threads opened about this but only speculations until someone has one and messes with it.

Locked bootloader...
So I see the chat regarding the locked bootloader on the sg2...I also see people on the forum actually have the device...could they some how check and see if it is locked?
I have been going round in circles looking for a new phone...finally decided on the sam sg2 to find out they are going down the same route as moto!
So, to all the happy owners of a shiney new sg2...whats the dealo!?!?!?

owners of the sgs2 in this forum? you must be mistaken lol...
sam locking the bootloader? who told you that nonsense?

they wouldnt dare to lock the bootloader. its 1 of many reason why sgs 1 succeeded as it did.
if they want sgs2 to be a successful device as well they wont lock the bootloader. it makes sense that the bootloader will be UNlocked.. but then again you can never tell... we might be like if we will find out its locked. followed by and then after we will unlock it. leading to

Anybody have an update on unlocking the bootloader

I know verizon in getting close to pushing out the new kitkat but i dont want to take the update if we have a unlock bootloader in sight
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droidfreak02 said:
I know verizon in getting close to pushing out the new kitkat but i dont want to take the update if we have a unlock bootloader in sight
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Not gong to happen, so I'd stop worrying and thinking about this.

We're still hard at work, but we've still got a ways to go. We're still in the research/discovery phase. I'd just update.

ryanbg said:
We're still hard at work, but we've still got a ways to go. We're still in the research/discovery phase. I'd just update.
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Awesome @ryanbg glad to hear that some devs are still looking into it. Wish I knew more about how to do something that intensive but my knowledge is limited to custom stock roms and compiling and modifying from source. Thanks for the update.
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pimpmaneaton said:
Awesome @ryanbg glad to hear that some devs are still looking into it. Wish I knew more about how to do something that intensive but my knowledge is limited to custom stock roms and compiling and modifying from source. Thanks for the update.
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I was about where you were at in October. I've got a decent chunk of Linux/C experience, but most of it is just reading/learning/searching and putting the pieces together. It's just really time consuming

It is sad how quickly people are dismissing it as impossible. people said the same thing about the Razor...

Unfortunately there are currently only two devs working on this @ryanbg (he is mostly working on N3) and @Surge1223 (he is mostly working on S4).
Here are the things needed for any phone to be unlocked.
1. Large userbase.
2. Most (if not all) variants of the phone has locked bootloader.
3. No developer edition phone.
4. Ungreedy dev who is not going to sell off the exploit to the oem or carrier in exchange of money.
5. Nice enough "guaranteed" bounty for it to be worth dev's time.
6. Dev who is not scared to be sued by the carrier/oem for releasing unlocked bootloader/exploit/signing key.
And in this case we are missing most of the above requirements, if not all.

Walter.White said:
Unfortunately there are currently only two devs working on this @ryanbg (he is mostly working on N3) and @Surge1223 (he is mostly working on S4).
Here are the things needed for any phone to be unlocked.
1. Large userbase.
2. Most (if not all) variants of the phone has locked bootloader.
3. No developer edition phone.
4. Ungreedy dev who is not going to sell off the exploit to the oem or carrier in exchange of money.
5. Nice enough "guaranteed" bounty for it to be worth dev's time.
6. Dev who is not scared to be sued by the carrier/oem for releasing unlocked bootloader/exploit/signing key.
And in this case we are missing most of the above requirements, if not all.
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Well from what I understand there have been a few posts on other forums about Adam Outler posting a picture on his G+ showing Secure boot off but he later had to delete it because people didn't understand that Sboot being off isn't the same as a bootloader unlock. So maybe if he can get that far there is a way for everyone to do it and the right hole just hasn't been found yet. I am very very proud of our devs and think if anyone can do it it will be someone on XDA. I am hoping for a bootloader unlock but I have to agree it does look a bit grim.
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shangrila500 said:
Well from what I understand there have been a few posts on other forums about Adam Outler posting a picture on his G+ showing Secure boot off but he later had to delete it because people didn't understand that Sboot being off isn't the same as a bootloader unlock. So maybe if he can get that far there is a way for everyone to do it and the right hole just hasn't been found yet. I am very very proud of our devs and think if anyone can do it it will be someone on XDA. I am hoping for a bootloader unlock but I have to agree it does look a bit grim.
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Nah. It was actually @ryanbg who achieved that secureboot:none status and it was his picture that he sent it to adam AFAIK adam doesn't even have note 3 (ppl where trying to crowd fund it but mods kept deleting those threads for one reason or another..so he actually never got N3 in his hand).
P.S. I'm just hoping that some dev has already cracked the bootloader but is waiting on S5 release before posting it. :fingers-crossed: @designgears already has the S5 firmware but hasn't posted it yet.

Need help lobbying for unlocked bootloader

Didn't know where else to post this but if anyone cares to go here and comment to John Legere please do.
https://twitter.com/fordjt/status/754483458869604352

jtford said:
Didn't know where else to post this but if anyone cares to go here and comment to John Legere please do.
https://twitter.com/fordjt/status/754483458869604352
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Hmm. What an interesting idea.
But we already have tons of those petitions, e-mails, telephone calls, personal letters, legals requests, etc.
So in other words... your idea has already been done... with no luck.

Binary100100 said:
Hmm. What an interesting idea.
But we already have tons of those petitions, e-mails, telephone calls, personal letters, legals requests, etc.
So in other words... your idea has already been done... with no luck.
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Roger that. I guess this can be closed then. Just outta curiosity, do you know if this is going to be the new norm? I'm on an international S7 Edge so it doesn't currently affect me, but I would like to have my wifi calling back. Have a brand new TMO S7 Edge just getting dusty.

jtford said:
Roger that. I guess this can be closed then. Just outta curiosity, do you know if this is going to be the new norm? I'm on an international S7 Edge so it doesn't currently affect me, but I would like to have my wifi calling back. Have a brand new TMO S7 Edge just getting dusty.
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More than likely, yes, it will be the new norm.
There is an incredibly small chance that Samsung will go back to sending Tmo phones with unlockable bootloaders, but I would definitely not hold my breath. This is assuming that John Legere and Tmo actually did ask Samsung for an unlock like they said they did, and that Samsung decides to go back to how they used to ship the phones. Both of these scenarios are pretty unlikely by themselves, and even less so together.

AKW said:
More than likely, yes, it will be the new norm.
There is an incredibly small chance that Samsung will go back to sending Tmo phones with unlockable bootloaders, but I would definitely not hold my breath. This is assuming that John Legere and Tmo actually did ask Samsung for an unlock like they said they did, and that Samsung decides to go back to how they used to ship the phones. Both of these scenarios are pretty unlikely by themselves, and even less so together.
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I'm sure they discussed it. It was likely shot down as soon as it was brought up though.
I'd bet that even if we were to ask today they'd say "We're still working on it. These things take time."
I'd bet that even two years from now they'll say the same thing too because they don't want the negative publicity. Any response starting with an "Unfortunately" won't ever be in our benefit which is all that they'll be responding with if we were to get any straight forward answer at all.
Samsung is grossly underestimating the willpower and determination of their customers. We were determined to get root and now we have it! Samsung should see that, be smart about it and decide to give us what we want. Meanwhile, if I let someone check out my (rooted) S7 Edge and let them notice how hot it is, how much the battery life sucks and how bad the lag is on most games (all due to the engineering kernel that we're forced to use) then I'd doubt very seriously that most people would want to get it. So my way of thinking is that they might as well let us flash unsigned kernels to at the very least let the phone run like normal. I've awed more people with my phone before rooting than after. I've actually shown it to my supervisor and she responded, "Why the Hell is it so hot?" I'm guessing she's not going to be upgrading now.

why Samsung can not do like HTC who wanted the opened Bootloader why torture people .

diligent7771 said:
why Samsung can not do like HTC who wanted the opened Bootloader why torture people .
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But then HTC could probably sue Samsung for using their idea. LOL!

I really doubt any of this will affect Samsungs decision to unlock. This is a great device stock and each who drops Samsung 2 will buy their devices. There is nothing out there that would persuade me to root even though TEKHD has a custom rom and our device has a method to root. Just my 2cents
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PapaMag said:
I really doubt any of this will affect Samsungs decision to unlock. This is a great device stock and each who drops Samsung 2 will buy their devices. There is nothing out there that would persuade me to root even though TEKHD has a custom rom and our device has a method to root. Just my 2cents
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Samsung won't be releasing an unlock unless it could positively effect their assets. Right now, their assets are Samsung Pay and Knox. Both of which require a secured bootloader to work. By releasing an unlocked bootloader or an method to unlock would do nothing positive for those assets. Truth is, there is nothing to gain for Samsung to release the bootloader for us so they won't be doing it. I'm certain of it.

diligent7771 said:
why Samsung can not do like HTC who wanted the opened Bootloader why torture people .
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Because Samsung has probably the best device they've ever made if not the best device currently on the market
Because Samsung S7/Edge devices are outselling the iPhone 6S/Plus
Because 99.99999% of people don't know what a bootloader unlock is, much less care about having it
Because Samsung Pay
Because a secure device enables government and corporate contracts
Because Samsung is making a ton of $$$ on these devices as they are
Because Samsung is totally OK with losing a small handful of people to HTC/Nexus devices when they can capture a much more lucrative market with a more secure device
There are likely many more reasons, but hopefully that answers why we don't have an unlocked bootloader and why we will never have an unlocked bootloader.

So with the bootloader locked, there is no way at all to install custom recovery or custom rom???
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chispas109 said:
So with the bootloader locked, there is no way at all to install custom recovery or custom rom???
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No custom recovery. We can flash with Flashfire though. Only problem is that if something doesn't work right then you'll have to restore with Odin since we can't restore with a recovery and can only access Flashfire after the phone has already booted.

Will Sprint LGG6 Ever Obtain Root or Unlocked Bootloader?

Will Sprint LGG6 Ever Obtain Root or Unlocked Bootloader?

Magic 8-ball says: Ask again later...

I hate these questions. They make me feel more doubtful, lol. Heck, if we knew that everybody would be buying one and waiting in anticipation.
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The million dollar question. I hope it happens but this is the first phone stock I've had that doesn't annoy me. I actually barely notice at all but I love to flash so maybe one day

My phone runs great no issues so it's not a big thing to have it rooted in that aspect, however. I like to keep NANDROID backups in case something happens, and the ability to backup applications the way I want is very important to me. Just using apps to backup everything is one thing, but if something occurs on a system level, you are generally screwed unless you have ROOT to be able to tinker and fix it yourself. I was able to fix countless phones on my own when the stores would want to wipe to factory reset or give me a refurbished. Screw that mess, give me freedom. Besides, it's illegal for them to deny you insurance claims based on ROOT. They legally have to prove that you damaged the phone by modifying the software. Battled and won twice after threats of a lawsuit. I have that part of the consumer rights saved in multiple places, just need to remember where so I can post it.

It all depends on whether or not the bootloader is locked, dm-verity, restrictions, etc. I hope it's not something like the Galaxy S7 with its Qualcomm Secure Boot.

The bootloader isn't even accessible from any user accessable means from what I've encountered, I can't seem to get in, I have "Enable OEM unlock" in settings, but it just seems that fastboot has been entirely stripped from this device... Very weird.

source code for Sprint G6
enzeden said:
Will Sprint LGG6 Ever Obtain Root or Unlocked Bootloader?
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dont know if this could help. i wouldnt know what to look for..
opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=ALL&search=LS993

Is this fake?
https://www.getdroidtips.com/root-install-twrp-recovery-sprint-lg-g6/
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hoonigan43 said:
Is this fake?
https://www.getdroidtips.com/root-install-twrp-recovery-sprint-lg-g6/
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yep

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yep
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Figured ?
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I'm guessing no one is even working on root or bootloader unlock. Seriously, disappointing. I just want bloat gone.

MikeDroid said:
I'm guessing no one is even working on root or bootloader unlock. Seriously, disappointing. I just want bloat gone.
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Why dont you look for a bootloader exploit or donate your phone to someone who can do it?

Mr nerd said:
Why dont you look for a bootloader exploit or donate your phone to someone who can do it?
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Because I like to go outside every now and then and I need a working phone. Don't care to go back to old Nexus.

MikeDroid said:
I'm guessing no one is even working on root or bootloader unlock. Seriously, disappointing. I just want bloat gone.
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You can still anti bloat through android.. by disabling apps manually. But yeah I feel your pain.. I hate ads, I miss Xposed, I miss TWRP.. My note 5 i still keep around for that reason...
Truth is the LG G6 is a spectacular phone.. But the rooting community is getting smaller and smaller as android allows you to be more customizable and the average device life for people has gone from 2-3 years.. to every year now with leases and trade ins at carriers, and flagship phones coming out every 8-14 months.
WIth the G4 randomly dying, and the G5 having battery issues.. It took LG a while to get it right, and I love this phone more than the s8 and s8+ but LG jumped on the "apple/samsung" bandwagon by locking bootloaders... There are alot more people with Samsungs than LGs right now.. The reason behind all the companies going this route is because of Android Pay and proprietary security by phone manufacturers to push more sales through corporate and enterprise security..
At least LG is over time unlocking some variants ( albeit international) of the G6 its hopeful...
We used to have this luxury with HTC but they are still trying to stay afloat.
Those are just my observations... from working for an indirect dealer and rooting tons of phones for 9+ Years.
We just have to pray for an exploit- somewhere.. someone out there has turned it into an obsession... Lets just hope they emerge ....

chaosrecords said:
You can still anti bloat through android.. by disabling apps manually. But yeah I feel your pain.. I hate ads, I miss Xposed, I miss TWRP.. My note 5 i still keep around for that reason...
Truth is the LG G6 is a spectacular phone.. But the rooting community is getting smaller and smaller as android allows you to be more customizable and the average device life for people has gone from 2-3 years.. to every year now with leases and trade ins at carriers, and flagship phones coming out every 8-14 months.
WIth the G4 randomly dying, and the G5 having battery issues.. It took LG a while to get it right, and I love this phone more than the s8 and s8+ but LG jumped on the "apple/samsung" bandwagon by locking bootloaders... There are alot more people with Samsungs than LGs right now.. The reason behind all the companies going this route is because of Android Pay and proprietary security by phone manufacturers to push more sales through corporate and enterprise security..
At least LG is over time unlocking some variants ( albeit international) of the G6 its hopeful...
We used to have this luxury with HTC but they are still trying to stay afloat.
Those are just my observations... from working for an indirect dealer and rooting tons of phones for 9+ Years.
We just have to pray for an exploit- somewhere.. someone out there has turned it into an obsession... Lets just hope they emerge ....
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Ditto on all that. For ads, I've used the all in one opt out which has eliminated lots of ads. Bloat is irritating, having to reset Google Voice after every update. Xposed was awesome. And I want all the Sprint badging and boot animation gone. Even temp root would make me happy.

Just everybody remember. Do not update. Usually root is achieved on lowest firmwares only in the last few history of lg series

Someone just messaged me this: Maybe some jtag process could work, or test point at qcom mode, dumping boot.img and rooting with magisk

Flood twitter with complaints of bootloader

John Legere is big user of Twitter and other active social media. We should flood his inbox and social media with requests for getting this phones bootloader unlocked. He promised to help with the last one and should be more than willing to help put traction on this.

revulv said:
John Legere is big user of Twitter and other active social media. We should flood his inbox and social media with requests for getting this phones bootloader unlocked. He promised to help with the last one and should be more than willing to help put traction on this.
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Honestly I don't think John Legere can do anything about Samsung bootloaders now days. Think about it, Samsung expended millions of dollars in their Samsung pay and Knox all together. Samsung doesn't want unlocked bootloaders at least on the USA market due to once you unlocked your bootloader the majority of people root their phones, once you unlocked your bootloader and root your phone you tripped the efuse, once you tripped the efuse, Samsung pay and Knox is not going to work.
Believed or not Samsung pay is very popular here in USA, and Knox is very successful on businesses and corporations.
Believe me, Samsung doesn't want to loose all those profits, from the investment they did on Samsung pay and Knox program, at least not for a handful of people here at XDA. We are probably only 1% or less of samsung customers.
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This has been tried in the past with samsung phones to no avail.

glensta said:
This has been tried in the past with samsung phones to no avail.
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Correct. We tried this many times before tovno avail. They straight up ignore us.

Ugh, when? Because the first time it got so much traction the dev bootloader was released, wasnt it? I actually work for T mobile and follow John religiously. If enough people ask, he will put Samsung on blast.

revulv said:
Ugh, when? Because the first time it got so much traction the dev bootloader was released, wasnt it? I actually work for T mobile and follow John religiously. If enough people ask, he will put Samsung on blast.
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It didn't work with S7 and S7 Edge, it won't work for S8 nor S8 plus

Loving the enthusiasm here. You guys are a bunch of optimists! Definitely seeing how things get done around here.
Also, root and debloated roms were available for the S7 and Edge because a developer bootloader made it's way onto the internet. Now, I'm not sure t mobile had anything to do with that, but the ground work and traction John laid help make that possible.

Lmax579 said:
It didn't work with S7 and S7 Edge, it won't work for S8 nor S8 plus
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Yes it will, maybe of we keep doing it, he might get something started by the time the s13+ come along. Eventually, he'll be like "For those guys at xda....."
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king3opobn said:
Yes it will, maybe of we keep doing it, he might get something started by the time the s13+ come along. Eventually, he'll be like "For those guys at xda....."
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Hope so

Nothing lost in trying, no sense in crapping on it before even trying. Worst case samsung says no, best case John succeeds and we very the dev bootloaders with a legal disclaimer absolving samsung and tmo from responsibility. But asking needs to happen to KNOW the end result.

revulv said:
John Legere is big user of Twitter and other active social media. We should flood his inbox and social media with requests for getting this phones bootloader unlocked. He promised to help with the last one and should be more than willing to help put traction on this.
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Don't let him fool you - I think he is close to 100% responsible for the locked US Tmo bootloaders. He only pretended to try and help last time. I got the same runaround from him/them on service issues related to their press releses that all towers were upgraded last fall.
The best fix is too late for those who have foolishly purchased another TMo branded phone - get a 955f. There are no bootloaders locked over there - they would not put up with it.
Custom ROMs have KNOX and android pay working, and saftynet passed on S7s and most of it already working on S8's

gaww said:
Don't let him fool you - I think he is close to 100% responsible for the locked US Tmo bootloaders. He only pretended to try and help last time. I got the same runaround from him/them on service issues related to their press releses that all towers were upgraded last fall.
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If you think there was a meeting in which he decided not to unlock the bootloader of a device, you're probably wrong. He's a CEO, not a phone security expert. Someone else made the call, and there isn't any real corporate reason to even reconsider it.

The international models don't support WiFi calling which is s big deal for those of us traveling internationally.
gaww said:
Don't let him fool you - I think he is close to 100% responsible for the locked US Tmo bootloaders. He only pretended to try and help last time. I got the same runaround from him/them on service issues related to their press releses that all towers were upgraded last fall.
The best fix is too late for those who have foolishly purchased another TMo branded phone - get a 955f. There are no bootloaders locked over there - they would not put up with it.
Custom ROMs have KNOX and android pay working, and saftynet passed on S7s and most of it already working on S8's
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gaww said:
Don't let him fool you - I think he is close to 100% responsible for the locked US Tmo bootloaders. He only pretended to try and help last time. I got the same runaround from him/them on service issues related to their press releses that all towers were upgraded last fall.
The best fix is too late for those who have foolishly purchased another TMo branded phone - get a 955f. There are no bootloaders locked over there - they would not put up with it.
Custom ROMs have KNOX and android pay working, and saftynet passed on S7s and most of it already working on S8's
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What do you mean they have KNOX working? I thought rooting disabled KNOX.

the_OZONE said:
What do you mean they have KNOX working? I thought rooting disabled KNOX.
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It was shielded by some mods.
However, it looks like Samsung has further tightened up KNOX and it is not working again.
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The international models don't support WiFi calling which is s big deal for those of us traveling internationally.
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Wi-Fi calling works on many custom mods- it is mostly a matter of using the correct CSCs. I used it yesterday.
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We've done this the last two years... Legere will hear your complaint bug do nothing... He claims it's a Samsung issue
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