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Why so worried about root on lilipop

Why is everyone so worried about root on lilipop as we havent gotten root on 4.4.4 yet lolipop looks terribe for one stay on kit kat and don't worry so much i dont see anything different in lilipop except astetic changes and new security

There is no android device yet(to my knowledge) that hasn't been rooted. I think they all will get rooted sooner or later. If there's no root it not android... My opinion
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The VZW Moto X 2014 has no known root method for 4.4.4

you need to read the post by chainfire then

I am worried about root on both KK and Lollipop. I came from a Hero, Evo, Evo 3D, S3, M8 and now I want the N4. I have rooted and applied custom roms on all of the phones so far to help maximize the phone. I know the N4 is a beast of a phone and shouldn't need much to maximize, but I would still like to have at least root access for my apps and maybe safestrap for flashing custom roms.
My thoughts are now is whether or not to get the N6 or the N4. N6 will be fully customizable, but I believe the N4 will be the better phone even without a unlocked bootloader. Not having an removable battery or SD card slot is a possible no go for me seeing the Lollipop with eat more room into the internal storage.
I am going to my local VZW store today to check it out with the wife.

doeboy711 said:
I am worried about root on both KK and Lollipop. I came from a Hero, Evo, Evo 3D, S3, M8 and now I want the N4. I have rooted and applied custom roms on all of the phones so far to help maximize the phone. I know the N4 is a beast of a phone and shouldn't need much to maximize, but I would still like to have at least root access for my apps and maybe safestrap for flashing custom roms.
My thoughts are now is whether or not to get the N6 or the N4. N6 will be fully customizable, but I believe the N4 will be the better phone even without a unlocked bootloader. Not having an removable battery or SD card slot is a possible no go for me seeing the Lollipop with eat more room into the internal storage.
I am going to my local VZW store today to check it out with the wife.
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have you seen my thread about developer edition note 4? best of both worlds

oneandroidnut said:
have you seen my thread about developer edition note 4? best of both worlds
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yeah I saw it, I can't justify that cash right now for a D-N4. I am upgrading on the Edge plan and VZW is footing $25 a month for my phone and I will be just paying $5 a month or a total of $120 in 24 months for the N4. I have a 10gb plan and that's why they are footing the $25 a month.

doeboy711 said:
yeah I saw it, I can't justify that cash right now for a D-N4. I am upgrading on the Edge plan and VZW is footing $25 a month for my phone and I will be just paying $5 a month or a total of $120 in 24 months for the N4. I have a 10gb plan and that's why they are footing the $25 a month.
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ahhh i understand. i buy everything off contract which has its positives and negatives lol

jolly_roger_hook said:
Why is everyone so worried about root on lilipop as we havent gotten root on 4.4.4 yet lolipop looks terribe for one stay on kit kat and don't worry so much i dont see anything different in lilipop except astetic changes and new security
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WAAHHHH!!! except astetic changes. are you serious? what about ART? You know the whole new platform android will be running on. All I can say is CMON MAN!

Nooter said:
The VZW Moto X 2014 has no known root method for 4.4.4
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The phone is still fresh and the development foresight started vanishing after the announcement of the Nexus 6 and Droid Turbo. I bought one out of impulse and once I seen the XDA forum as a ghost town I returned it. Not getting sucked into another deadbeat investment.
Motorola encrypts their bootloaders though, but I don't think that means it can't be rooted.
Samsung has a huge following. The Note 4 has a huge following. There will be a root at some point.
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TheMavic said:
Samsung has a huge following. The Note 4 has a huge following. There will be a root at some point.
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It's been half a year, and it's looking as unlikely as ever that there will be a root for the Verizon Note 4.

I am not so sure. There are still plenty of Devs working it out. Even though nothing has been found yet, they have taken out alot of possibilities. Plus this morning saw a post that I believe was specific for the RE N4 and a possible way for r/w access on /system directory. Waiting to hear word whether it works or not, but if it does, that is all I need. Me personally, I do not care much for custom ROM's, just need control on the device and when it tells me I am not allowed, it irks me.

Nooter said:
It's been half a year, and it's looking as unlikely as ever that there will be a root for the Verizon Note 4.
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Well even if someone was making progress, I wouldn't expect to hear anything from them due to the bounty. It's a lot of money, and announcing it could give someone else an advantage - they could potentially search for forum posts or questions you may have asked to try and extrapolate your methods, look at your past techniques and area of expertise, or just plain try and hack you.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a *little*disappointed that we still don't have it, but Lollipop had been great so far (battery issues aside), so it isn't nearly as important to me as it once was. Since Lollipop now let's apps write to the external SD, the only things I really want are Titanium Backup and the ability to remove status bar icons (like that Verizon '4g LTE' icon that NEVER goes away, even with mobile data turn off...)

TackyCookie said:
Well even if someone was making progress, I wouldn't expect to hear anything from them due to the bounty. It's a lot of money, and announcing it could give someone else an advantage - they could potentially search for forum posts or questions you may have asked to try and extrapolate your methods, look at your past techniques and area of expertise, or just plain try and hack you.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a *little*disappointed that we still don't have it, but Lollipop had been great so far (battery issues aside), so it isn't nearly as important to me as it once was. Since Lollipop now let's apps write to the external SD, the only things I really want are Titanium Backup and the ability to remove status bar icons (like that Verizon '4g LTE' icon that NEVER goes away, even with mobile data turn off...)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...s-only/rd-rooting-n910a-n910v-models-t3042045
There's the thread I came across earlier. With that said, there are no specifics being posted outside of PM but there are plenty of updates as far as opportune routes they are going in.

Sucks. My bro hates lollipop as much as I did.I was hoping to help him roll back. Told him to ditch Verizon with me, but he didn't listen. Now he's stuck in a weak data plan with a locked down phone. Oh well.

Barkleyfan said:
Sucks. My bro hates lollipop as much as I did.I was hoping to help him roll back. Told him to ditch Verizon with me, but he didn't listen. Now he's stuck in a weak data plan with a locked down phone. Oh well.
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Not many people care if phone is locked"bootloader" honestly non-geeks

patt2k said:
Not many people care if phone is locked"bootloader" honestly non-geeks
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I see it everywhere. People buy expensive smart phones just to text, make phone calls, take pictures, use social media, play games and a little casual web browsing. Then they still have the stock launcher with all the same icons and widgets that the phone came with and they go into the app drawer to search for any app they want to use. They have no clue about customization, settings or the file system. I think they just want other people to see that they have the best stuff.

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I see it everywhere. People buy expensive smart phones just to text, make phone calls, take pictures, use social media, play games and a little casual web browsing. Then they still have the stock launcher with all the same icons and widgets that the phone came with and they go into the app drawer to search for any app they want to use. They have no clue about customization, settings or the file system. I think they just want other people to see that they have the best stuff.
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yea since its not one of the best phones out even without root..
regardless, root adds to the value to some but not everyone.. many have never rooted a device and us that do is a VERY small piece of the customer base like 1% or less small.
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elliwigy said:
yea since its not one of the best phones out even without root..
regardless, root adds to the value to some but not everyone.. many have never rooted a device and us that do is a VERY small piece of the customer base like 1% or less small.
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I wonder what percentage of users are crazy enough to pay full price for a developer edition phone just so we can hopefully get some cool new rom. Then we still have to wait for root to come to the retail phones before development can take off. Oh well, at least I'm not having the issues the OTA caused everyone.
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Poll! Will VZW Note 4 Retail Ever See ROOT

So this is just a simple Poll Thread. Just wondering if we think the VZW Note 4 will ever see some kind of unlock!
Now a midst allot of the talk going around some say we may HAVE TO have an unlocked bootloader to even consider root.
So this Poll is going to be asking the following question? It is not more so about will we get Unlocked, or will we get root.
The question is:
Do you think we will see any type of unlocking/rooting method for the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Retail?

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So this is just a simple Poll Thread. Just wondering if we think the VZW Note 4 will ever see some kind of unlock!
Now a midst allot of the talk going around some say we may HAVE TO have an unlocked bootloader to even consider root.
So this Poll is going to be asking the following question? It is not more so about will we get Unlocked, or will we get root.
The question is:
Do you think we will see any type of unlocking/rooting method for the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Retail?
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I say no but with the note 4 you don't need it but TBU and Adway would be nice
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mmw68666 said:
I say no but with the note 4 you don't need it but TBU and Adway would be nice
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Go ahead and put your vote in the top of the OP sir! Id like to see what everyone has to think about this topic!
Granted im very inclined to agree with you on your answer. I dont think its necessary. More or less a habit just to do it and were spoiled with the features! But yes some of the perks would definitely be nice!

I say no. I think every Samsung phone from here on out will be locked down tight on Att and Verizon. Sprint will have root and that will be the only route for rooting in the near future.

I HIGHLY disagree... this device will definitely see root. And although it performs great without it, things like write protection completely diminish the joy of having a capable device. We'll see root, maybe not an unlocked bootloader... but there's always safestrap....Samsung's devs are great, buy ours are better... hence the hiring of Steve.

For 1 just because it is hard to root makes it more tempting for someone to cracking the code and for 2 touchwiz sux it lags freezes and remove all that crap that Verizon and samsung put on our phones.

I mean... the Note 3 was the same.. it had a Root. I'm sure something will pop up

prob have root but no unlock bootloader

Looking back at old devices and seeing where we are now. I think the chances of obtaining a root exploit for this device are like 1 in a million. So I'm going with no on both. But that doesn't take away any value of the phone itself, its still the biggest beast around currently. Its also priced the most among online marketplaces next to the iPhone 6.

Highly unlikely. If it does, it will be some new universal root that happens to work on the Verizon version, but nothing Verizon specific.

Maybe if everyone keeps saying no, someone will look at this thread and be like, "can't? I can't? Lemme show these dudes why I am who I am." Lol

This is the only phone I have ever owned where my keeping it Is not based on root.
Of course I want root, and yes I believe it will happen eventually.

I really hope it will happen. I really have been grinding my teeth using the note 4 without root. I need my per app dpi settings, adaway, and more xposed modules. Honestly I would probably return it if I still could.
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sprintuser1977 said:
This is the only phone I have ever owned where my keeping it Is not based on root.
Of course I want root, and yes I believe it will happen eventually.
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Ditto... love it so far!

Hard to say, but I'm thinking no.

"No" right now and once L is released, helL no. Sorry, but that is what it seems to me.

Results as of right now
Well it seems like the dial is leaning more towards the side of most people thinking we will or most certainly get root.
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Those who think more than likely not or most certainly not.
Ive got high hopes but like i stated im mighty happy with how the device is performing at this point in time. Of course the added benifit of removing junk would be great if anything that and xposed!
Im keeping my Root Alert set to high! LOL
Thanks for voting it up fellas! :good:

i say 100% on KK and on L 75%
i have read a thread just like this on soooo many devices since the OG Droid and the only thing that has been successful since has been locking the bootloader. N4 just needs the right people with it in their hands and that will eventually happen.
L has already gained root access without a modified kernel which you can read about here.
personally i am not moving from the N3 until there is root and at minimum SafeStrap working. i have most of the N4 software features mixed with some L and some S5 stuff with a great theme and some amazing Xposed apps on my N3 that i am not willing to give up. customization from theme to software tweaks is something i highly value.

No root mark my words

What about the KNOX flag? Does it not really matter? I pay 10$ a month for insurace so does the warranty matter that much?

Terrified to Root but desperately want to

I just got my Moto X Pure Edition (THIS one) and I really want to root it and get all the things I had with my G3 and back when I had an JB'd iPhone 4s, but my experience with the G3 was terrible.
I ended up having to RMA it 4 times through my insurance because there was something I was using on the G3 that slowed it to a vista-esque pace, and despite lots of reading on this site and others I managed to brick it :silly: 4 times :silly: in 4 different ways just trying to put it back to stock. It cost me far too much money but I was stupid enough to keep trying before finally settling on stock to avoid more issues.
I love this new phone, but I know I could tweak it more to what I like and from what it looks like in Heisenberg's Guide it is fairly safe and simple as far as roots go. I feel so stupid having screwed up with the LG that I don't want to try it. I'm a CS major and I've spent so much time messing with all sorts of things I never thought it would be a problem.
So my question is, within the realm of using Xposed and a few root apps/functions (no custom ROMs or anything just because I can't afford not having a phone for a week if I ruin it again), is it relatively safe to root the X Pure and are these tools (Universal Tool, Restore to stock tool) or a manual set of steps a good bet for returning to stock and removing root? I just want to make sure if I end up over my head I can get back to stock and be happy with what is already a great phone. Sorry if I sound like a huge _____ but I'm still in school and I want to avoid further grief as best I can.

From what I've been hearing, the 808 is a tricky processor... Besides xposed and regular terminal code changes, such as screen density, you should be good. Although, if your going in and messing with code idk what to say, experienced devs are even having a tough time getting this thing to boot on their custom ROMs...

You probably shouldn't mess with your phones anymore.
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Another thing just to keep in mind when talking people about your qualifications, saying you are getting your Computer Science degree is pretty broad. First, we don't know what year you're in and second we don't know your concentration. I have a BBA for instance. A BBA in what though? If I went applying to random jobs, or trying to network that would leave more questions than answers. What do I have a BBA in? Well mine is in Management, so yes I can do basic accounting, financing, marketing, but my concentration is being able to interpret financial data and making decisions that would benefit a company or organization. Does that make me advanced enough to be an accountant, even though we both have BBAs? Hell no! Same goes for CS. You may be getting your computer science degree, but are you majoring in Network Security, Hardware, C++, Java, Oracle, etc... There is so much information missing that just stating "I'm getting my CS degree" isn't enough for anyone to give you a solid answer, especially not knowing what year you are in. If you are a junior, then you've just barely scratched the surface of what you will be studying for the next 2 years. Just a little FYI for future sakes :thumbup:

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Well that's helpful.

Didn't think to specify, my bad, yeah I'm just a junior and I feel like I haven't learned much in the way of things. I just want to get a few small things from xposed and others, no plans on changing anything myself

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Well that's helpful.
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You bricked 4 G3s. It's time to find a new hobby. I suggest one that doesn't include the destruction of expensive electronics.
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I own Oneplus One and rooted immediately with blisspop rom. I can't use phn without root access coz almost all ma apps need root permission. Yes its risky to root a costly device but if u need it so desperately den u should definitely root it....

Again, thanks for the positive input. I bricked them following the stock flashing methods on this website, I wasn't just shooting in the dark. And out of another half dozen phones I've only ever had an issue with the G3. Can you not? I'd like to learn here, not argue.

U having plm installing recovery on ur g3???

When it comes to just simply rooting and installing xposed, I don't see how you can brick it following step by step instructions. I will say this. If you brick it and you can't figure out how to get it back to stock, Motorola has made it clear you're on your own. So there's that, but using a simple toolkit can make a worlds difference in preventing mistakes. Yes, you'll feel like an amateur, and let's be honest, you are right now, but it beats losing $400.
You also just got it and you have no idea if you have any hardware issues that many have had to RMA within the first week for. So maybe sitting on it for a week or 2 couldn't hurt to eliminate that possibility as well (Bad CPU/GPU, Speaker, Light Leakage, loose parts when shaken, excess battery drain/heat, and turbo charge randomly not working, etc.). Motorola/Lenovo were at first being lenient about replacing these even with unlocked bootloaders and even giving people a month to send these back, they are wising up and change the rules since people have been making such a big fuss about the bootloader thing, and posting about the one month holding time (now I've read recently it's 3 days?), so just be careful, that's all.

nikeman513 said:
When it comes to just simply rooting and installing xposed, I don't see how you can brick it following step by step instructions. I will say this. If you brick it and you can't figure out how to get it back to stock, Motorola has made it clear you're on your own. So there's that, but using a simple toolkit can make a worlds difference in preventing mistakes. Yes, you'll feel like an amateur, and let's be honest, you are right now, but it beats losing $400.
You also just got it and you have no idea if you have any hardware issues that many have had to RMA within the first week for. So maybe sitting on it for a week or 2 couldn't hurt to eliminate that possibility as well (Bad CPU/GPU, Speaker, Light Leakage, loose parts when shaken, excess battery drain/heat, and turbo charge randomly not working, etc.). Motorola/Lenovo were at first being lenient about replacing these even with unlocked bootloaders and even giving people a month to send these back, they are wising up and change the rules since people have been making such a big fuss about the bootloader thing, and posting about the one month holding time (now I've read recently it's 3 days?), so just be careful, that's all.
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Sounds like a solid plan. With the G3 rooting was always easy but the only known way that I had found for the t mobile model was to use the LG flashing tool that looked a lot like the one they used in-house to restore it, and despite following a pretty straightforward guide there were 3 different errors I got right towards the end of the process that would lock the phone in a download mode state. After using TWRP to get it back to being usable I'd still be stuck with root, and trying a few other ways would screw me.
As far as using the tools, are the 2 I linked in the OP the proper ones to be using? I'll definitely hold off on it for a while to make sure nothing comes up, thanks for that info. I'm guessing the 2 year protection plan is moot if I'm stuck with no way to erase evidence of a software issue arising from root, so that's a thing to think about as well. Do you know if unlocking the bootloader voids that protection plan? I'm looking for the TOS.

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I could not have said this any better.

Judging from the attitudes of you two it's a wonder I stopped using this forum. Thanks fellas, really shows the quality of the community here.

I have always rooted my phones from my original HTC incredible, galaxy nexus, HTC DNA, and HTC ONE M8... that being said I am very familiar with HTC and how they work and I always had the HTC RUU file ready in case of emergency but never had to use it. I'm not sure if Motorola has a RUU file or a Fastboot IMG like Nexus devices that can bring your phone back from the dead as this is my first Moto because I never wanted to deal with the encrypted bootloader on the VZW moto phones.
I honestly can say that I have been finding root less and less needed since my M8 and I dont think I will unlock or root my Pure Edition.
The reason is that there is no bloat that I cant get rid of, I see no need for a custom kernel since the newer processors are really fast, it basically runs stock android so its not bogged down by Sense or touchwiz.
I honestly can say I like the minor additions Moto has made with the Pure Edition... I have used exposed and I really dont see the use for most of its functions for more than a week before its just gimmicky.
Once updates are stopped or the Development community is way ahead of OTA updates we will still have an easy OEM process to unlock root and flash. But for now I'm sticking with what I paid for... The Moto experience

My favorite XDA line in ages, "I feel I haven't learned much in the way of things"
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If you follow step by step instruction you will be ok.... I have rooted tons of phones and bricked a couple but was able to fix them. Its a chance you take but hey if you mess up it is a excuse to get a new cell lol. But honestly your streak with rooting is bad, maybe you shouldn't try anymore.

DrPhill94 said:
Judging from the attitudes of you two it's a wonder I stopped using this forum. Thanks fellas, really shows the quality of the community here.
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I'm sorry I offended you. Based on your history I think it a bad idea for you to mess with your phone. Not what you wanted to hear but I honestly think it's the truth. Not all computer science majors can handle phone tech. How many of your classmates have iPhones? How many of them with Android phones root?
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jiggyb21 said:
My favorite XDA line in ages, "I feel I haven't learned much in the way of things"
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Come on, don't pigeon hole everyone on XDA. You had to have known you were going to receive some sarcastic replies. That's like Plaxico Burress asking what kind of gun he should buy next. The consensus here seems to be genuine. You shouldn't mess with root anymore but it's your money. Thing is, rooting is not hard and not dangerous if you follow directions closely, yet you've managed to brick several devices. I rooted my phone to install Xposed but due to battery issues I have stopped using it. Look in the Xposed thread for more info. I would say just wait, its not worth it now IMO.

IMO, the only reason to root is to install AdAway.
Can't stand Ads. But other than that, the experience that Motorola has set up for us is perfect. I won't be adding anything else like Xposed, or install a custom ROM until I get bored with my phone, which will probably be in another six months. I've set myself up with an unlocked bootloader and root for when the time comes though. But for now, I'm happy.
I gotta say that to me (sophmore in college as a Biology major, completely unrelated to compsci), it seems pretty hard to brick a phone just trying to root it. Especially with the very detailed guides that Hesisenberg has set up for us, thank that man.
You gotta decide if what you plan on doing with your root is worth it though. I spent about 1.5 hours rooting my phone, and I'm not even sure that the time was worth AdAway.

Need help lobbying for unlocked bootloader

Didn't know where else to post this but if anyone cares to go here and comment to John Legere please do.
https://twitter.com/fordjt/status/754483458869604352

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Didn't know where else to post this but if anyone cares to go here and comment to John Legere please do.
https://twitter.com/fordjt/status/754483458869604352
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Hmm. What an interesting idea.
But we already have tons of those petitions, e-mails, telephone calls, personal letters, legals requests, etc.
So in other words... your idea has already been done... with no luck.

Binary100100 said:
Hmm. What an interesting idea.
But we already have tons of those petitions, e-mails, telephone calls, personal letters, legals requests, etc.
So in other words... your idea has already been done... with no luck.
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Roger that. I guess this can be closed then. Just outta curiosity, do you know if this is going to be the new norm? I'm on an international S7 Edge so it doesn't currently affect me, but I would like to have my wifi calling back. Have a brand new TMO S7 Edge just getting dusty.

jtford said:
Roger that. I guess this can be closed then. Just outta curiosity, do you know if this is going to be the new norm? I'm on an international S7 Edge so it doesn't currently affect me, but I would like to have my wifi calling back. Have a brand new TMO S7 Edge just getting dusty.
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More than likely, yes, it will be the new norm.
There is an incredibly small chance that Samsung will go back to sending Tmo phones with unlockable bootloaders, but I would definitely not hold my breath. This is assuming that John Legere and Tmo actually did ask Samsung for an unlock like they said they did, and that Samsung decides to go back to how they used to ship the phones. Both of these scenarios are pretty unlikely by themselves, and even less so together.

AKW said:
More than likely, yes, it will be the new norm.
There is an incredibly small chance that Samsung will go back to sending Tmo phones with unlockable bootloaders, but I would definitely not hold my breath. This is assuming that John Legere and Tmo actually did ask Samsung for an unlock like they said they did, and that Samsung decides to go back to how they used to ship the phones. Both of these scenarios are pretty unlikely by themselves, and even less so together.
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I'm sure they discussed it. It was likely shot down as soon as it was brought up though.
I'd bet that even if we were to ask today they'd say "We're still working on it. These things take time."
I'd bet that even two years from now they'll say the same thing too because they don't want the negative publicity. Any response starting with an "Unfortunately" won't ever be in our benefit which is all that they'll be responding with if we were to get any straight forward answer at all.
Samsung is grossly underestimating the willpower and determination of their customers. We were determined to get root and now we have it! Samsung should see that, be smart about it and decide to give us what we want. Meanwhile, if I let someone check out my (rooted) S7 Edge and let them notice how hot it is, how much the battery life sucks and how bad the lag is on most games (all due to the engineering kernel that we're forced to use) then I'd doubt very seriously that most people would want to get it. So my way of thinking is that they might as well let us flash unsigned kernels to at the very least let the phone run like normal. I've awed more people with my phone before rooting than after. I've actually shown it to my supervisor and she responded, "Why the Hell is it so hot?" I'm guessing she's not going to be upgrading now.

why Samsung can not do like HTC who wanted the opened Bootloader why torture people .

diligent7771 said:
why Samsung can not do like HTC who wanted the opened Bootloader why torture people .
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But then HTC could probably sue Samsung for using their idea. LOL!

I really doubt any of this will affect Samsungs decision to unlock. This is a great device stock and each who drops Samsung 2 will buy their devices. There is nothing out there that would persuade me to root even though TEKHD has a custom rom and our device has a method to root. Just my 2cents
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PapaMag said:
I really doubt any of this will affect Samsungs decision to unlock. This is a great device stock and each who drops Samsung 2 will buy their devices. There is nothing out there that would persuade me to root even though TEKHD has a custom rom and our device has a method to root. Just my 2cents
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Samsung won't be releasing an unlock unless it could positively effect their assets. Right now, their assets are Samsung Pay and Knox. Both of which require a secured bootloader to work. By releasing an unlocked bootloader or an method to unlock would do nothing positive for those assets. Truth is, there is nothing to gain for Samsung to release the bootloader for us so they won't be doing it. I'm certain of it.

diligent7771 said:
why Samsung can not do like HTC who wanted the opened Bootloader why torture people .
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Because Samsung has probably the best device they've ever made if not the best device currently on the market
Because Samsung S7/Edge devices are outselling the iPhone 6S/Plus
Because 99.99999% of people don't know what a bootloader unlock is, much less care about having it
Because Samsung Pay
Because a secure device enables government and corporate contracts
Because Samsung is making a ton of $$$ on these devices as they are
Because Samsung is totally OK with losing a small handful of people to HTC/Nexus devices when they can capture a much more lucrative market with a more secure device
There are likely many more reasons, but hopefully that answers why we don't have an unlocked bootloader and why we will never have an unlocked bootloader.

So with the bootloader locked, there is no way at all to install custom recovery or custom rom???
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chispas109 said:
So with the bootloader locked, there is no way at all to install custom recovery or custom rom???
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No custom recovery. We can flash with Flashfire though. Only problem is that if something doesn't work right then you'll have to restore with Odin since we can't restore with a recovery and can only access Flashfire after the phone has already booted.

How does rooting and warranty work on this phone?

When I got my first phone (DROID RAZR M) I didn't even know what root was. After a year and my warranty's term, I found out and unlocked the bootloader just for fun. When I got my Verizon Note 4, I found out about KNOX and its hardware flag that can't be reversed. I had to wait 1.5 years for root on that anyway, but I'm keeping my Samsung tablet stock for the first year because of that flag.
My question: does LG have anything like Samsung KNOX? If I root right now, will I not just be able to flash back to stock and keep my warranty if needed? Or is LG nicer to power users?
Since I lose all data with a bootloader unlock, I'd rather do it sooner than later, but if I permanently trip some flag by doing so, I'd rather wait the year.
I've moved to T-Mobile, so I have the H918. I know I can root and I've seen the guide, but I don't know if I should root.

Up to you. Should wait for root and especially TWRP to mature. Limited right now.

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Up to you. Should wait for root and especially TWRP to mature. Limited right now.
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It's actually really exciting to see all the development for this phone so far. I don't have much basis to judge from, but it's definitely a lot more than my Note.
So there's no hardware switch that'll be tripped? Is root reversible?

I rooted mine yesterday. When I turn it on it says that the bootloader is unlocked and I will receive that message everyday until I relock it. Im not new to rooting, and im also not a develepore, but I was checking out some of the adb and fastboot commands and I'm almost positive you could just simply reflash the stock rom and kernel, and from there use fastboot to relock the bootloader. I might try it tomorrow for you and let you know actually. Because this is the first time I have bought a brand new high end phone to actually experience the root slowly become available.
@Rbiter is correct though, other then simply just having supersu, and the simple root explorer stuff, nothing else has been upgraded really to work on nougat, and the current version of twrp is said to be sketchy when flashing stuff because it was just released not to long ago.

Christufurr said:
I rooted mine yesterday. When I turn it on it says that the bootloader is unlocked and I will receive that message everyday until I relock it. Im not new to rooting, and im also not a develepore, but I was checking out some of the adb and fastboot commands and I'm almost positive you could just simply reflash the stock rom and kernel, and from there use fastboot to relock the bootloader. I might try it tomorrow for you and let you know actually. Because this is the first time I have bought a brand new high end phone to actually experience the root slowly become available.
@Rbiter is correct though, other then simply just having supersu, and the simple root explorer stuff, nothing else has been upgraded really to work on nougat, and the current version of twrp is said to be sketchy when flashing stuff because it was just released not to long ago.
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Well I guess Google does a pretty good job of backing up app data (which I didn't know they even did), so if I have to wipe, it probably won't be too bad.
If no one has heard of an LG KNOX equivalent, that gives me hope that there is none, and I'll be able to revert, which is definitely a plus for LG.

Yeah well this is my first LG, my last android was the AT&T Samsung galaxy 4, and then I switched to iphone for a little like a year or so, but I've heard nothing but great things about lg, except for there UI I think its called? There touchwiz or something of the sort is a little bloated' but hey that's why I am so excited for the custom roms and kernels! I truly wish I had on hands training with making one or the other. It would totally be my number one hobby!
Ill try to un-root tomorrow after I over fill on turkey and let you know if I can get the boot up message away though and if I can I will compose how I did it.

Christufurr said:
Yeah well this is my first LG, my last android was the AT&T Samsung galaxy 4, and then I switched to iphone for a little like a year or so, but I've heard nothing but great things about lg, except for there UI I think its called? There touchwiz or something of the sort is a little bloated' but hey that's why I am so excited for the custom roms and kernels! I truly wish I had on hands training with making one or the other. It would totally be my number one hobby!
Ill try to un-root tomorrow after I over fill on turkey and let you know if I can get the boot up message away though and if I can I will compose how I did it.
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Very much appreciated. Did the 910A ever get root btw?

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Very much appreciated. Did the 910A ever get root btw?
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To my knowledge it was only the H918 and US996
http://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/h918-recowvery-unlock-v20-root-shell-t3490594

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To my knowledge it was only the H918 and US996
http://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/h918-recowvery-unlock-v20-root-shell-t3490594
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910A as in SM-N910A as in Note 4 ATT

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910A as in SM-N910A as in Note 4 ATT
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My bad xD this thread is under the LG V20 so I just assumed that it was just another model of the v20. I have no idea, did a quick Google search and it appears there are some posts on it being able to be rooted, I dont like the hole Knox thing. They should just let us be free to do with what we want with the product we bought

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My bad xD this thread is under the LG V20 so I just assumed that it was just another model of the v20. I have no idea, did a quick Google search and it appears there are some posts on it being able to be rooted, I dont like the hole Knox thing. They should just let us be free to do with what we want with the product we bought
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Hey at least it isn't Apple, where you don't even own your copy of iOS.

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Hey at least it isn't Apple, where you don't even own your copy of iOS.
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I agree!

Christufurr said:
Yeah well this is my first LG, my last android was the AT&T Samsung galaxy 4, and then I switched to iphone for a little like a year or so, but I've heard nothing but great things about lg, except for there UI I think its called? There touchwiz or something of the sort is a little bloated' but hey that's why I am so excited for the custom roms and kernels! I truly wish I had on hands training with making one or the other. It would totally be my number one hobby!
Ill try to un-root tomorrow after I over fill on turkey and let you know if I can get the boot up message away though and if I can I will compose how I did it.
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Hi Christufurr,
Did you have a chance to unroot your phone ? If yes, please let me how did yiu do that.
Thank you