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So following on from the issues with the Note this may seem like I am trolling but I am not.
I and my son have new S7 (not the Edge) on Vodafone. It is the best phone I have ever had both in terms of software and size. Fits my hand perfectly.
My son thinks the same however he is reporting that when the battery gets to about 30% the consumption/drain seems to get faster and the handset heats up. Typically around 1600 each day.
I don't get that as an issue. Occassionally the handset has heated up a bit but typically after heavy web use.
I have suggested he makes sure it is backing up and do a factory reset.
Any thoughts as to what may be causing the problem?
Navrig said:
So following on from the issues with the Note this may seem like I am trolling but I am not.
I and my son have new S7 (not the Edge) on Vodafone. It is the best phone I have ever had both in terms of software and size. Fits my hand perfectly.
My son thinks the same however he is reporting that when the battery gets to about 30% the consumption/drain seems to get faster and the handset heats up. Typically around 1600 each day.
I don't get that as an issue. Occassionally the handset has heated up a bit but typically after heavy web use.
I have suggested he makes sure it is backing up and do a factory reset.
Any thoughts as to what may be causing the problem?
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Without knowing what apps he's got running it's not possible to know what's causing the issue. On a side note, you should top off your battery whenever you can. Letting the battery drain very low and then charging back to 100% will decrease the performance of the battery. Is he playing Pokemon perhaps? Cheers!
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Without knowing what apps he's got running it's not possible to know what's causing the issue. On a side note, you should top off your battery whenever you can. Letting the battery drain very low and then charging back to 100% will decrease the performance of the battery. Is he playing Pokemon perhaps? Cheers!
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Thanks Dyno.
AS far as I know he is either in class at university or in the library. He will be using wi-fi to look up technical references as well as social media. I don't think it is heavy use as he should be studying!! He wont be playing Pokemon.
I'll pass on your comments/advice on the battery.
Try downloading malwarebytes from playstore! I just installed a rogue apk file called UPSM manager v.3.5 from apkfiles.com. Phone started to heat up without any usage . Checked GSam and my temps were at 36-37 c! And also warm to touch so i scanned my device with malwarebytes. Removed the malware and now my phone is back to 31-34c .Cool to touch ! Another advice is to disable fast charging and charge it whenever you can just like navrig said. Don't let it drain to below 40%. Once or twice won't hurt in a week but every day is going to wear and tear the battery life cycle. Hope this helps!
Navrig said:
So following on from the issues with the Note this may seem like I am trolling but I am not.
Any thoughts as to what may be causing the problem?
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I'm having this problem also.
I jumped in and bought a K1 to replace my dying GPad GPE. After 3 days, this seems like a huge mistake.
The K1 is very laggy in basic apps like Play Store and Chrome, does not register touches very well and has terrible battery life. I even charged it overnight and didn't get a full charge. On top of that, I am constantly getting the screen overlay message any time I need to enable a permission.
What could be causing this? This tablet is so highly regarded I don't get it.
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For charging you need a 2 or 2,5 A charger. Then it will charge (if it's not faulty) in around 2 hours. The screen overlay message is coming from the quick launcher (or how it is called). So disable it or give it the right to draw over other apps.
I don't have problems with lags or touches. Are you on the latest updates?
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I jumped in and bought a K1 to replace my dying GPad GPE. After 3 days, this seems like a huge mistake.
The K1 is very laggy in basic apps like Play Store and Chrome, does not register touches very well and has terrible battery life. I even charged it overnight and didn't get a full charge. On top of that, I am constantly getting the screen overlay message any time I need to enable a permission.
What could be causing this? This tablet is so highly regarded I don't get it.
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Its got a crappy Nvidia CPU in it, thats the issue. Like my N9, that too is crap, again, Nvidia inside.
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For charging you need a 2 or 2,5 A charger. Then it will charge (if it's not faulty) in around 2 hours. The screen overlay message is coming from the quick launcher (or how it is called). So disable it or give it the right to draw over other apps.
I don't have problems with lags or touches. Are you on the latest updates?
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I am using the correct rated charger. This even happened when charging with the tablet off.
I am on the latest update. I waited to install my apps until after all updates were applied. The touch issues may be lag related. The back button almost always requires multiple touches. Keyboards often time register multiple touches or just freezes.
I am also noticing network issues. Apps report loss of connection when the wifi shows connected.
I hate to say it, but I am leaning towards returning this for a Samsung.
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I jumped in and bought a K1 to replace my dying GPad GPE. After 3 days, this seems like a huge mistake.
The K1 is very laggy in basic apps like Play Store and Chrome, does not register touches very well and has terrible battery life. I even charged it overnight and didn't get a full charge. On top of that, I am constantly getting the screen overlay message any time I need to enable a permission.
What could be causing this? This tablet is so highly regarded I don't get it.
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Also a recent owner of the k1. Running stock firmware (1.5) but with BitO-K kernel. The only thing I am experiencing is mediocre battery life, charges from 50-100% in under an hour using a 2.5A charger. The only thing that sucks, and this goes for android tablets in general, is the removal from 4.4 of the TabletUI. Seeing we're already at 7.1 and TabletUI is still dead, it looks like we'll have to fight to get it back again.
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I am using the correct rated charger. This even happened when charging with the tablet off.
I am on the latest update. I waited to install my apps until after all updates were applied. The touch issues may be lag related. The back button almost always requires multiple touches. Keyboards often time register multiple touches or just freezes.
I am also noticing network issues. Apps report loss of connection when the wifi shows connected.
I hate to say it, but I am leaning towards returning this for a Samsung.
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That lag is not normal. And my tablet charges from around 10% to full in about 2 hours. Maybe you should try a factory reset. If that doesn't help I would return it.
I won't buy a Samsung tablet. I would try a replacement. I own the k1 for a year now and I'm still very satisfied with. And Nvidia updates it. Which Samsung usually doesn't.
Don't listen to Nvidia trolls... ⬆
Your experience does not sound typical. Perhaps it's a hardware issue, but I agree with @edisso10018 that the first step would be a factory reset.
Wish you luck!
The Nvidia CPU is pretty good shame it's not the X1, It performs better then some of my phones with QC chips, Do a factory reset and see if the lag is still there, Battery life is poor can agree on that
My k1 is over a year old it is still playing games with no trouble yes a agree with the battery life but mine charges with no problems a have noticed a little slow down but am not running bit os updated kernel yet but a still rate 10/10 best tablet a ever owned.
Tablet is laggy, no denying it.
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Also a recent owner of the k1. Running stock firmware (1.5) but with BitO-K kernel. The only thing I am experiencing is mediocre battery life, charges from 50-100% in under an hour using a 2.5A charger. The only thing that sucks, and this goes for android tablets in general, is the removal from 4.4 of the TabletUI. Seeing we're already at 7.1 and TabletUI is still dead, it looks like we'll have to fight to get it back again.
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K1 here-- I don't run stock (DU 6.0.1), but I used BitOK for a while and realized its not very good. Switched back to stock kernel (from my ROM) and its more stable. You don't lose out on much anyway-- BitOK doesn't have features I want like voltage control. Examples of instability caued by BitOK: GPU was stuck at ~350mhz, would not ramp down fully to 72mhz. Also stock is smoother. You can still use adiutor to monitor and control a few things.
One more thing: be very careful when flashing blobs and other stuff in fastboot that it is for the K1 version and not OG shield! A lot of devs posting these things arent explicit as to which version. DTBs and Blobs are specific to the shield type-- one might work for the wrong tablet version, or it might brick it, or it might be unstable.
As for the Batery life I can tell you it does suck even on the best case scenario. There is no way around this as it is small and the large screen, as nice as it is, sucks a lot of juice. Lowering brightness helps somewhat but still I'll be lucky to get a couple hours of SOT out of it.
For the price its a great tablet, with a few small compromises, such as bat life, but thats the price you pay for great screen and sound at a cheap price. We are lucky to have at least a few devs still doing work with this device, and luckier still that nvidia is STILL supporting it with updates, even if slowly. They recently announced 7.1.1 will be forthcoming.
Mine was laggy too, I flashed stock firmware with my PC and now it's working perfectly.
Bought mine as a refurb and it works fine. I think you either have bad hardware, or a bad install. Try flashing stock and see if it improves.
Tbh my only complaint is with battery life, I switched to BitO to see if it got any better, the tablet is smoother with this kernel than stock but the battery is the same, I wish we had UV'ing, my favorite setting on any kernel, back on my N10 my battery could easily be improved 10-15% and the heat was reduced drastically, good binned ones could shave up to 200mV on some steps. K wish this was implemented
PearlMikeJam said:
I jumped in and bought a K1 to replace my dying GPad GPE. After 3 days, this seems like a huge mistake.
The K1 is very laggy in basic apps like Play Store and Chrome, does not register touches very well and has terrible battery life. I even charged it overnight and didn't get a full charge. On top of that, I am constantly getting the screen overlay message any time I need to enable a permission.
What could be causing this? This tablet is so highly regarded I don't get it.
Sent from my SHIELD Tablet K1 using Tapatalk
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I just bought a K1 (discount price 169€) and I don't have this problem at all. Even if I use only 1 core (settings performance) for basic app it's smooth smooth smooth.
And the battery life is huge !!
For gaming tho I switch back ofc the performance setting.
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I bought a K1 three weeks ago to use as a display for my phantom 4 quadcopter. I am very impressed with its performance. I'm not experiencing any lag other than at startup. Once it's up and startup is finalized I dont have any problems. The battery life isn't great, I'll agree there but hopefully it gets better with Nougat.
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I bought a K1 last week to replace my aging Nexus 7, did a factory reset and still wasn't satisfied with it being laggy. Did my share of Google searching and finally stumbled upon a quick fix to try : disable Daydream. Since changing this one setting it has been very smooth since, no issue for lag or touch registrations.
Give it a try, might not help your charging but I did notice a much reduced battery drain while sleeping also.
My only other changes were to root, change the DPI to 240 and use the Google Now Launcher which compliments the display nicely.
I wasn't happy with it as well until I flashed cyanogenmod 13 and a custom kernel with overclock. Now it's a beast, battery is great, signal as well. And I also now have the option to OC the processor to 2.5 GHz before I play some more demanding games and then set it back to 2.2 or even lower if I won't need all the juice. Seriously, the stock marshmallow ROM sucks, I have only heard bad stuff about it. Also, the nougat update is about to come out so I'd give android N a chance, too.
About the battery life -- see which apps are using the most juice under settings/battery/. Some of them may be using more CPU cores, and have a higher frame rate than is needed. Go to settings/App optimisation/ and crank the numbers down. Next go to settings/Accounts and see the long list of things that want to autosync with you. Turn the autosync off for those you aren't using. Turning off wifi except when I am using it has made a significant difference for me as well.
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About the battery life -- see which apps are using the most juice under settings/battery/. Some of them may be using more CPU cores, and have a higher frame rate than is needed. Go to settings/App optimisation/ and crank the numbers down. Next go to settings/Accounts and see the long list of things that want to autosync with you. Turn the autosync off for those you aren't using. Turning off wifi except when I am using it has made a significant difference for me as well.
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Putting the CPU at 80 or 90% CPU speed in the performance settings will get you that reduced power consumption. You might not even notice the speed difference. These speed tiers also run at lower voltage.
Using the GPU frame rate limiter will dramatically extend gaming time too. I find 30 fps acceptable most of the time.
Of course it would be nice to run the thing unrestricted, but it's just not practical when you also want battery life. Look at what Nintendo is doing with the clock speeds of the X1 in the Switch.
I'm entertaining the thought of getting a Nexus 6P this 2017. I understand updates will still be that quick and supported by 2018 but I have some questions:
1. Is it true the 6P has some water-resistant powers that it's considered safe to use during light rain or a spill of water or soda?
2. I heard that a "bug" causes the phone to crash or turn off unexpectedly when the battery dips below 10%?
3. Is it also true the wifi and bluetooth can sometimes be erratic?
Need your comments please. Cheers.
I have the 6P Since 20th July..
And non of these issues had with me.
Get the one plus 3.. N6P is too old now
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I'm entertaining the thought of getting a Nexus 6P this 2017. I understand updates will still be that quick and supported by 2018 but I have some questions:
1. Is it true the 6P has some water-resistant powers that it's considered safe to use during light rain or a spill of water or soda?
2. I heard that a "bug" causes the phone to crash or turn off unexpectedly when the battery dips below 10%?
3. Is it also true the wifi and bluetooth can sometimes be erratic?
Need your comments please. Cheers.
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I just sold mine on eBay.. I liked the phone allot but it was just too big for me to carry at work. I never had any problems with mine the entire time I had it.
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No problems since launch. There exceptions for some....
Abdulaziz6p said:
I have the 6P Since 20th July..
And non of these issues had with me.
Get the one plus 3.. N6P is too old now
So, no issues with water damage or phone dying when battery goes under 15%?
I'm reluctant to get a OnePlus phone. I have heard many great things about their phones but company it seems has a poor track record when it comes to Customer Support and after sales service.
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Gino76ph said:
Abdulaziz6p said:
I have the 6P Since 20th July..
And non of these issues had with me.
Get the one plus 3.. N6P is too old now
So, no issues with water damage or phone dying when battery goes under 15%?
I'm reluctant to get a OnePlus phone. I have heard many great things about their phones but company it seems has a poor track record when it comes to Customer Support and after sales service.
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Yes sir. Nothing had on mine
And you're right about OnePlus...
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I'm entertaining the thought of getting a Nexus 6P this 2017. I understand updates will still be that quick and supported by 2018 but I have some questions:
1. Is it true the 6P has some water-resistant powers that it's considered safe to use during light rain or a spill of water or soda?
2. I heard that a "bug" causes the phone to crash or turn off unexpectedly when the battery dips below 10%?
3. Is it also true the wifi and bluetooth can sometimes be erratic?
Need your comments please. Cheers.
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I bought the Nexus6P back in December because it was a great open box deal, and I couldn't be happier.
I've never encountered any of the issues you mentioned at all, and I find it to still be super snappy under normal use, plus the battery is great.
I can't comment on the water-resistance because I try not to allow it to get wet at all; that said, I'm sure you can just youtube people stress testing their poor 6p phones.
I will agree with others here though in saying that it is a bit large - I did want to pixel (not the XL) as it's size is much better, but the price was too high.
So, in 2017 what old flagship would you choose in terms of battery life, overall speed & performance and an excellent camera...a Nexus 6P, OnePlus 3T or Galaxy S7?
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So, in 2017 what old flagship would you choose in terms of battery life, overall speed & performance and an excellent camera...a Nexus 6P, OnePlus 3T or Galaxy S7?
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Nexus 6P, hands down. Mine consistently lasts all day (about 18 hours) with moderate to heavy usage (browsing XDA with Tapatalk, social media, etc), takes amazing pictures, and is very fast/responsive.
I have no experience with the OnePlus 3T, but my mom's Galaxy S7 was awful. It had horrible battery life, ugly software, and performance was very janky. The cameras were pretty good, though.
You can't go wrong with a Nexus phone. The amazing developers here on XDA keep them alive long after Google drops support.
Problem is I'm not into rooting and I only depend on software updates via OTA.
I also heard about the device freezing, radios (such as bluetooth, wifi, etc.) kept playing up and phone dies after only 15% (or below) battery life.
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Problem is I'm not into rooting and I only depend on software updates via OTA.
I also heard about the device freezing, radios (such as bluetooth, wifi, etc.) kept playing up and phone dies after only 15% (or below) battery life.
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Even if you're not into rooting, you'll still get OTA updates with the latest security patches/bug fixes months before any other phone. The 6P should be supported up until Android 9.0, so you'd be good for another 14 months or so.
If you do decide to take a walk on the wild side and root after Google drops support, Nexus phones are very easy to unlock, root, and customize.
As for the freezing, I've never experienced this while stock. The only time my device has ever frozen/crashed was due to something stupid I did, like changing the file system, or risky kernel settings.
I don't use Bluetooth, so I can't provide any feedback there, but I can vouch for WiFi being very stable.
The shutdown/battery issues are caused by degraded batteries. There's no avoiding it, batteries are rated for a certain number of charge cycles and wear out over time, but there are things you can do to extend the life of your battery:
1. Don't expose your phone to extreme hot/cold temperatures. Using it in the summer or winter is ok, but don't put it in the freezer to run benchmarks or to keep it cool while installing updates. If you must keep it cool, take it out of its case (if you have one) and place it in front of a fan. I always place my phone in front of a fan when installing a new ROM or anything CPU intensive to keep it cool.
2. Don't use fast charging unless absolutely necessary, such as you're heading out for a hot date in 20 minutes but you only have 15% left. If you're charging your phone overnight, there's no need to use the fast charger. I've been using the 1 amp wall adapter from my Galaxy Nexus to charge my 6P overnight and the battery is just as good as day one with no random shutdowns.
3. Don't play games, install updates, or anything that may cause the phone/battery to heat up while the phone is charging. Browsing the web, listening to music, texting, or other light tasks are fine, but playing Asphalt 8, installing the latest OTA, or whatever while charging will cause your battery to heat up and wear it out faster.
4. Charge the phone while off if possible. The reason for this is when powered on and the battery reaches 100% it stops charging (obviously). When the battery drops to 98% it starts charging again. If you charge overnight with the phone on the 2% drop/recharge will happen multiple times, causing unnecessary charge cycles and wearing out the battery.
5. Try to avoid letting the battery go below 15-20%. Discharging the battery too far too often wears it out faster.
6. If you want to get really anal about this, charge the battery when it reaches 20% and unplug it when it reaches 80%. This counts as only half of a charge cycle, thus extending the life of your battery. There's an app on XDA that stops charging at whatever limit you decide, but I believe it requires root.
I recommend buying your 6P new (if you decide to go with it and if you can find one). When you buy a used phone you have no idea how badly the battery was abused.
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Abdulaziz6p said:
I have the 6P Since 20th July..
And non of these issues had with me.
Get the one plus 3.. N6P is too old now
So, no issues with water damage or phone dying when battery goes under 15%?
I'm reluctant to get a OnePlus phone. I have heard many great things about their phones but company it seems has a poor track record when it comes to Customer Support and after sales service.
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I just sold my OnePlus 3T, it was a great phone, the only thing that disappointed me was the camera. If camera was as good as the 6P I would of kept it for another year. It is very poor in low light and bad focus on the simplest shots. I think the OnePlus 5 will be the phone to look to next for a mid priced beast.
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It's too old and you may fell angry with the hot 810 SOC
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It's too old and you may fell angry with the hot 810 SOC
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It's not too old. I have one and it is better than many phones years newer than it imo. I have no lag or stutters and it never heats up or has any problems. I'd definitely recommend this phone any day as it is just so good for its age.
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It's too old and you may fell angry with the hot 810 SOC
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My 6P doesn't get hot, even when playing CPU/GPU intensive games like Asphalt 8. The 810 has been tamed on the 6P.
The only good thing 6P has going for it is it's front speakers and the camera performance. Android 8/O wont fix it's short battery life, nor its laughable audio and call quality along with the random wifi connection issues...
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The only good thing 6P has going for it is it's front speakers and the camera performance. Android 8/O wont fix it's short battery life, nor its laughable audio and call quality along with the random wifi connection issues...
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Those issues are some most users including myself never have had. Those kind of issues are not device specific either and the battery is actually pretty good for the phones age. The camera is amazing with 4k quality so I don't know what you're smoking and the audio quite actually is pretty decent and doesn't have crackling or tinny sounds. The call quality is actually amazing and very clear even compared to newer phones and my home phone. At times it can be quite but there are mods for that but for general users the audio is good enough. Keep in mind that many issues you may have heard are a small percentage and are usually reports from devices with an old degraded battery and maybe a buggy custom rom. Should I assume you don't have a nexus 6p? Before talking about a phone you don't have try researching about it.
I've been lurking for a few in this part of the forum. I currently own the Nexus 6 and they have reached EOL and was considering a jump to this one. Do you guys recommend it, I'm leery about the bootloop issues and early shut down of the phone but from what I've seen around the forums if you don't have those you guys are pretty happy with the device.
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I've been lurking for a few in this part of the forum. I currently own the Nexus 6 and they have reached EOL and was considering a jump to this one. Do you guys recommend it, I'm leery about the bootloop issues and early shut down of the phone but from what I've seen around the forums if you don't have those you guys are pretty happy with the device.
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It is one of if not the best phones that came out at that time and is a fairly good price. The bootloop issues are not software related but occur when someone's battery degrades due to having it a long time or not taking care of it and how it is charged. Also the development on this phone including roms and kernels etc is some of the best. It is an amazing phone with no lags or bootloop issues and aslong as you aren't an idiot with your charging you shouldn't need to worry about any issues.
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It is one of if not the best phones that came out at that time and is a fairly good price. The bootloop issues are not software related but occur when someone's battery degrades due to having it a long time or not taking care of it and how it is charged. Also the development on this phone including roms and kernels etc is some of the best. It is an amazing phone with no lags or bootloop issues and aslong as you aren't an idiot with your charging you shouldn't need to worry about any issues.
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Plus I get to stick with Beans Roms, nothing against other developers as I'm sure they are good too but I've been a user of Beans roms for quite some time. Thanks, I loved my Nexus 6 but since it's only 32 bit it's time is coming to an end.
I've had a big problem since I updated to Nougat. Any time my battery reaches around 30% or lower it dies randomly. It's very frustrating and I can't figure out what's wrong with it because the battery was great on Marshmallow. It dies incredibly fast also which just adds to the desire to throw my phone off a tall building or run it over with my car. If I use flash light for any reason it seems to trigger the dying faster if I'm close to 30%. Does anyone know what could be causing this and any potential fixes ??
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I've had a big problem since I updated to Nougat. Any time my battery reaches around 30% or lower it dies randomly. It's very frustrating and I can't figure out what's wrong with it because the battery was great on Marshmallow. It dies incredibly fast also which just adds to the desire to throw my phone off a tall building or run it over with my car. If I use flash light for any reason it seems to trigger the dying faster if I'm close to 30%. Does anyone know what could be causing this and any potential fixes ??
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Install GSAM (easier to use) or BBS (bit more advanced) from the Play Store to help identify the culprit. Stock Nougat places no unusual drains on the device. We have a pair of Harpia's that perform notably better after updating to Android 7.x. The behaviors you describe are symptomatic of a failing battery.
So, I purchased a replacement battery for my V20 from Amazon. I wen't with the Perfine 3,200mAh as I couldn't trust that the "original OEM" batteries were genuinely original. However, I've noticed (as one other review on amazon mentioned) that the temperature sensor in the battery isn't working. It constantly seems to read around 22°C no matter what. The other day my V20 became very hot during use, possibly dangerously hot (I don't think this was related to the battery, it was a fairly hot day). I checked the temps using Aida64. One of the temperature sensors, "tsens_tz_sensor11" read 71.4°C!! I immediately shut the handset down to be on the safe side. I don't think I've ever had a phone get this hot. Is that normal? Or even safe? And how dangerous is a battery without a temp sensor? - I'm guessing not very safe at all
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So, I purchased a replacement battery for my V20 from Amazon. I wen't with the Perfine 3,200mAh as I couldn't trust that the "original OEM" batteries were genuinely original. However, I've noticed (as one other review on amazon mentioned) that the temperature sensor in the battery isn't working. It constantly seems to read around 22°C no matter what. The other day my V20 became very hot during use, possibly dangerously hot (I don't think this was related to the battery, it was a fairly hot day). I checked the temps using Aida64. One of the temperature sensors, "tsens_tz_sensor11" read 71.4°C!! I immediately shut the handset down to be on the safe side. I don't think I've ever had a phone get this hot. Is that normal? Or even safe? And how dangerous is a battery without a temp sensor? - I'm guessing not very safe at all
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I've read the opposite that most of the knock off after market batteries are crap and you're best off sticking with a genuine oem battery.
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I've read the opposite that most of the knock off after market batteries are crap and you're best off sticking with a genuine oem battery.
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Sorry, I didn't really make that clear enough. There are a ton of fake "Genuine LG OEM" branded batteries out there. They're all skinned like the official battery that came with the V20, with a few minor differences. This make it really hard to know whether you're actually buying a genuine LG product or not.
The battery I bought isn't a knock off, it's a third party battery. The capacity of this replacement is great, actually slightly better than the genuine one that came with my V20. The only issue is the dud temperature sensor.
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Sorry, I didn't really make that clear enough. There are a ton of fake "Genuine LG OEM" branded batteries out there. They're all skinned like the official battery that came with the V20, with a few minor differences. This make it really hard to know whether you're actually buying a genuine LG product or not.
The battery I bought isn't a knock off, it's a third party battery. The capacity of this replacement is great, actually slightly better than the genuine one that came with my V20. The only issue is the dud temperature sensor.
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71C is high, is that after running a benchmark or something?My note 4 used to go over 73c sometimes .My cpu idles around 28-30c ( i changed the thermal paste) and goes to around 60c under max load.I'd recommend changing the thermal paste for sure. Regarding the battery, it's probably the temp sensor on the Battery IC that's not compatible with V20?
jass65 said:
71C is high, is that after running a benchmark or something?My note 4 used to go over 73c sometimes .My cpu idles around 28-30c ( i changed the thermal paste) and goes to around 60c under max load.I'd recommend changing the thermal paste for sure. Regarding the battery, it's probably the temp sensor on the Battery IC that's not compatible with V20?
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I was on 4G at the time, and only checking Reddit and reading the news. Nothing intensive at all, which is why I freaked out a little. Room temp was probably around 30°C at the time.
I reckon you're right about the temperature sensor. It does seem to get some sort of reading but always hovers around the 22/23°C mark. Should I be worried about that? The battery obviously has a temp sensor for a reason. I really don't want a note 7-esq experience any time soon...
MikusP said:
I was on 4G at the time, and only checking Reddit and reading the news. Nothing intensive at all, which is why I freaked out a little. Room temp was probably around 30°C at the time.
I reckon you're right about the temperature sensor. It does seem to get some sort of reading but always hovers around the 22/23°C mark. Should I be worried about that? The battery obviously has a temp sensor for a reason. I really don't want a note 7-esq experience any time soon...
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yeah you never know.When charging batteries( especially non-oem) best to have fully functioning one especially from a safety standard.Yes, there are good reasons for battery temperature sensor.It says a lot about the health of the battery , like if its prone to failure in the near future.This is a wild scenario but say if your battery starts expanding rapidly it's gonna be very hot and phone will be made aware(99% chance this isn't gonna happen but just an example).You may have noticed if you use Fast charge, the battery gets hot, nothing crazy but hot nonetheless.So if your device is fast charging, it may send false battery temp readings and fast charge may keep sending higher voltage or current(i think fast charge is like 9v) because as far as it knows battery is not at temp threshold. Obviously voltage threshold comes in to play primarily, but you get the the idea.That's just another scenario i could think of as an example.Have you tried checking temps with other apps like cpu-z for consistency? Yeah i see why your temp is so high 30C room temp, that's so hot lol Mine is probably 14C .
My battery definitely goes above 23c so yeah something is wrong there.
Interestingly i once made my phone reach 90c with lineage os running kernel auditor and cpu on max speed. I could not touch the fingerprint se sor. Im not sure if it was really 90 or kernel auditor was wrong. Battery and everything was stock.
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best to have fully functioning one especially from a safety standard
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Thanks a lot for the feedback, I reluctantly returned it today. It's a shame because it really was a huge improvement over the stock V20 battery. I've taken a punt on another third-party replacement. Fingers crossed!
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Interestingly i once made my phone reach 90c with lineage os running kernel auditor and cpu on max speed. I could not touch the fingerprint se sor. Im not sure if it was really 90 or kernel auditor was wrong. Battery and everything was stock.
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Holy moly! That's ridiculous! haha. I know CPUs can withstand very high temps, but 90°C in a smartphone is pretty nuts!