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What i have noticed so far with the G4

I`ve had the phone for 3 days now and before upgradin from the Iphone 6 ( my first and last iphone) i was really anxious about the many issues listed in the forums especially the touchscreen problem. When i initially got it i started testing everything and I`m glad to say that everything worked fine (sooo relieved) but when i charged it for the first time it charged very slowly, about 3 hours for a full charge, and it got really hot when using lightly the 3rd day a did a factory reset and immediately noticed the the battery charged way faster about 1% per minute ( i dont know how it compares to you other guys) and the phone didnt get nearly as hot. From all this i belive that LG did e very good job hardware wise but i think like many other conapnies fell a little short on the software department and hopefully it will be fixed in the updates to come.

samkle said:
the 3rd day a did a factory reset and immediately noticed the the battery charged way faster about 1% per minute ( i dont know how it compares to you other guys) and the phone didnt get nearly as hot.
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Factory reset is the first thing which I do with any new Android device I ever owned

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Factory reset is the first thing which I do with any new Android device I ever owned
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It seems to fix some issues for alot of user so i think its worth a try for anyone whos experiencing any ☺

Mine will start getting hot and eating battery once in a while, but a reboot always fixes that. 1% charge per minute is about what I see on the stock LG charger.

juliend said:
Mine will start getting hot and eating battery once in a while, but a reboot always fixes that. 1% charge per minute is about what I see on the stock LG charger.
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Glad to know its not only me. Have you used a QC with the phone? I ordered a Tronsmart 2.0 QC off ebay hopefully it will work faster without any issues.

I bought the Tronsmart QC 2.0 and its awesome. I go from 48% to close to 100% in the 45min car ride home. I do not notice any heat that is worrying. It does get warm when charging but normal.
My G4 was raging out of the box. Super hot. Brightness was being throttled back between 100, 90, and 80 pretty frequently and it went from 60% to dead in like 15minutes. After I wiped and setup as new, it has been running as one would expect.

player911 said:
I bought the Tronsmart QC 2.0 and its awesome. I go from 48% to close to 100% in the 45min car ride home. I do not notice any heat that is worrying. It does get warm when charging but normal.
My G4 was raging out of the box. Super hot. Brightness was being throttled back between 100, 90, and 80 pretty frequently and it went from 60% to dead in like 15minutes. After I wiped and setup as new, it has been running as one would expect.
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Glad to hear that ☺. I actually purchased the wall charger but i guess the performance will be similiar. The one thing i noticed today was the battery life, it seems it is not that great during very light usage but that may be due to the fact that these couple of days the reception has been awful because the carrier im using (Vodafone) is switching to 4G for the first time in my country and ,a little out of topic i know, the download speeds have shocked me, my home connection max download speed is about 400-500kbps and today i witnessed 15-20mbps.

Battery does drain faster in low signal areas. I found that a slow charge at night yeilds longer charges throughout the day. I use fast charge in the car so I can use GPS and still get a charge. But at home and office I use Qi Wireless Charging. I use fast charging at home but only when I am doing heavy useage. I slow charge while I sleep.

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Battery does drain faster in low signal areas. I found that a slow charge at night yeilds longer charges throughout the day. I use fast charge in the car so I can use GPS and still get a charge. But at home and office I use Qi Wireless Charging. I use fast charging at home but only when I am doing heavy useage. I slow charge while I sleep.
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How much of a charge do you actually gain in the car with the fast charger while using nav and music with screen on?

Is any of you guys using a micro sd? Im using a Samusng 64Gb class 10 and im experiencing a lot of battery drain even when the phone is on idle and i was thinking if the card has anything to do with it.

I'm using SanDisk class 10 and there's no noticeable difference in my end

samkle said:
Is any of you guys using a micro sd? Im using a Samusng 64Gb class 10 and im experiencing a lot of battery drain even when the phone is on idle and i was thinking if the card has anything to do with it.
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It could be the phone is performing media scanning which keeps the phone awake. This should be completed in a day or two.
If you still experience battery drain after couple of days. I'd suggest performing a full format of the micro SD card on a computer. Incase there are bad sectors on the SD card that the phone is stuck on try to read them.

Bigmille said:
It could be the phone is performing media scanning which keeps the phone awake. This should be completed in a day or two.
If you still experience battery drain after couple of days. I'd suggest performing a full format of the micro SD card on a computer. Incase there are bad sectors on the SD card that the phone is stuck on try to read them.
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The funny thing is that the the two buying factors for me were the removable back and the micro SD slot, and the only issue I have may or may not be with the micro SD and a slightly loose hinge on the left side of the battery cover but I have experienced that with every phone I had including the g2 and the iPhone 6 without a removable back that had this issue.

Hey,
This is my first LG phone. I'm a bit disappointed, but the camera makes up for everything (mostly).
First of all, the device I'm using right now is the third one within a week. I got it from Vodafone, and the first two had the same issue. When the screen was on, and showing bright things, the front speaker would give out a high pitched whistle sound. You could only hear it initially if you held it to your ear. However in recorded videos it was clear and loud enough to be very very annoying. This third unit is ok it seems, but my advice to everyone is to try the G4 before leaving the shop. It might just be a bad batch that was made for Vodafone, a similar thing happened to me with my HTC One X, that had screen issues, and there too I had to go through several devices.
I did notice lag, Nova Launcher helps, but I'm really looking to root the thing and putting CM or some AOSP rom on it. My S5 seems way snappier with BlissPop on it. The only problem with that is I loose the camera app, the thing I bought it for in the first place.
The battery is ok, but I expect more. I haven't had heat issues. The GPS draines the battery though really bad. If you don't use a charger whilst navigating, you'll go flat within an hour,which is not stellar at all. If you use a normal 2.1A charger, you can keep it on level, or might even add a few %.
The camera is awesome, and the leather back too. Cool that at Vodafone you get the leather and a plastic back in the box.
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kozjegyzo said:
Hey,
This is my first LG phone. I'm a bit disappointed, but the camera makes up for everything (mostly).
First of all, the device I'm using right now is the third one within a week. I got it from Vodafone, and the first two had the same issue. When the screen was on, and showing bright things, the front speaker would give out a high pitched whistle sound. You could only hear it initially if you held it to your ear. However in recorded videos it was clear and loud enough to be very very annoying. This third unit is ok it seems, but my advice to everyone is to try the G4 before leaving the shop. It might just be a bad batch that was made for Vodafone, a similar thing happened to me with my HTC One X, that had screen issues, and there too I had to go through several devices.
I did notice lag, Nova Launcher helps, but I'm really looking to root the thing and putting CM or some AOSP rom on it. My S5 seems way snappier with BlissPop on it. The only problem with that is I loose the camera app, the thing I bought it for in the first place.
The battery is ok, but I expect more. I haven't had heat issues. The GPS draines the battery though really bad. If you don't use a charger whilst navigating, you'll go flat within an hour,which is not stellar at all. If you use a normal 2.1A charger, you can keep it on level, or might even add a few %.
The camera is awesome, and the leather back too. Cool that at Vodafone you get the leather and a plastic back in the box.
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Even my 1+1 is way snappier with blisspop installed. Snappier than s6, snappier than g4.
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kozjegyzo said:
Hey,
This is my first LG phone. I'm a bit disappointed, but the camera makes up for everything (mostly).
First of all, the device I'm using right now is the third one within a week. I got it from Vodafone, and the first two had the same issue. When the screen was on, and showing bright things, the front speaker would give out a high pitched whistle sound. You could only hear it initially if you held it to your ear. However in recorded videos it was clear and loud enough to be very very annoying. This third unit is ok it seems, but my advice to everyone is to try the G4 before leaving the shop. It might just be a bad batch that was made for Vodafone, a similar thing happened to me with my HTC One X, that had screen issues, and there too I had to go through several devices.
I did notice lag, Nova Launcher helps, but I'm really looking to root the thing and putting CM or some AOSP rom on it. My S5 seems way snappier with BlissPop on it. The only problem with that is I loose the camera app, the thing I bought it for in the first place.
The battery is ok, but I expect more. I haven't had heat issues. The GPS draines the battery though really bad. If you don't use a charger whilst navigating, you'll go flat within an hour,which is not stellar at all. If you use a normal 2.1A charger, you can keep it on level, or might even add a few %.
The camera is awesome, and the leather back too. Cool that at Vodafone you get the leather and a plastic back in the box.
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Thankfully I didn't have any hardware issues, I have the Hong Kong version because there's where most of retailers get the phones in my country, I think there's a lot room for improvement software wise and I'm hoping coming updates especially android M, will refine this device even more. I really hoped my I would get the plastic back cover in the box and I'm really jealous of those who did ??

Im starting to notice two more things with the G4, the battery cover (leather) is making a creacking noise when i press it on some areas, and the other one is the with the vibration motor that makes a little bit of noise compared to other phones ive had, has any of you guys experienced this?

samkle said:
Glad to know its not only me. Have you used a QC with the phone? I ordered a Tronsmart 2.0 QC off ebay hopefully it will work faster without any issues.
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I have charged it using my wifes samsung QC. Don't notice much difference over the stock LG charger.

I'm not going to resort to a factory data reset because I shouldn't have to
come to think of it maybe I will try a reset
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josephcory said:
I'm not going to resort to a factory data reset because I shouldn't have to
come to think of it maybe I will try a reset
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It's up to you, but as you have seen its much recommended if you have any issues.

Got a note 5, thinking of returning for nexus 6p (read please)

Well here's the drill. I'm coming from a oneplus one with outstanding battery life and Ive had the note for a day now, battery life has sucked so much, so so much and it even lags sometimes, I can literally see the percentage dropping. Every site I check rates note 5 higher for battery life than note 5, which seems odd to me, and I don't know what to do, should I get the nexus 6p or keep this phone and learn to live with it? Is the oneplus one from outer space for that battery life?

You might get some biased answers here since this is a 6p forum but I'd check the battery stats first, see what's causing that drain. Some phones require a few charges to optimize the battery too. Finally, it could just be a faulty model

I researched the Note 5 real hard between trying out an iPhone 6S+ and buying a 6P. I was coming from an S5 and the wife has a Note 3, which we both like quite a bit. Her Note is actually what got me wanting a bigger screen than my S5. But I did read a lot of complaints about the Note 5 battery life (and the glass backs cracking, even saw a display model at Best Buy with a busted back glass). And being I'm Verizon with no chance to root a Note 5, I opted for the 6P. Battery life has been very good with a few tweaks. Browse through the threads here to find what works. And you don't have to go nuts with the tweaks. For me, just running a custom Kernel, using Greenify for a few apps and not installing GasBuddy were all that was needed.

The Nexus 6P is a great device from a software point of view (= guaranteed updates, no Knox or other nasty stuff ) but not very durable from a mechanical point of view. You really have to take care when using this phone because the Aluminum body is weak and prone to warping or bending. That´s the only downside of this device..

I would say if you're looking to switch because of battery life you likely won't find find much relief by switching to the Nexus 6P. Most new high end phones are clocking in 4-6 hours of screen on time. The Oneplus One may have provided you better battery life due to the lower resolution screen, older (probably less power hungry) processor, and tweaks that were part of CyanogenMod. What kind of screen on time are you getting between the Oneplus One and Note 5?
In terms of performance, I haven't seen a single issue with the Nexus 6P, but screen on time maxes out for me around 4-5 hours. The standby time has been much improved in Marshmallow, but that update should be seen soon-ish on the Note 5.

I've found myself in the same boat, the Note is pretty damn good but there are some software issues such as the memory management, bloat and most of all 32gb not being close to enough HD space. Is the warp thing really an issue? I've not heard of anything regarding it.

omz123 said:
I've found myself in the same boat, the Note is pretty damn good but there are some software issues such as the memory management, bloat and most of all 32gb not being close to enough HD space. Is the warp thing really an issue? I've not heard of anything regarding it.
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Yes, it is an issue. I'd be willing to say that almost every device will suffer from it (even if the owner does not realise) mine warped after a day in a case.

gman88667733 said:
Yes, it is an issue. I'd be willing to say that almost every device will suffer from it (even if the owner does not realise) mine warped after a day in a case.
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Yes, just read through the 'bent after 2 days' thread and that certainly sound worrying. Really wanted to switch over with the annoyances of the Note lately. Is it enough to warrant not switching or something to 'live with'?

You won't notice it honestly, I just make sure I don't sit on it or anything. The phone itself is a lot better than the note 5. Worth the buy if you're careful

omz123 said:
Yes, just read through the 'bent after 2 days' thread and that certainly sound worrying. Really wanted to switch over with the annoyances of the Note lately. Is it enough to warrant not switching or something to 'live with'?
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If I have any kind of warping on my Nexus 6P I can't see it. The only time warping might be bothersome is if you want to use a tempered glass screen protector, as it will peel away from the display.
Regardless, if you already have a current generation high end Android, you're probaly better off waiting for the next generation. Unless you really got money to burn!

I had the Note 5 before upgrading to the 6P. I am much happier with the 6P, it's better in every way IMO with the exception of the Note 5 having a bit better camera.

I had a OPO and loved the battery life, I went to the N6 and then the N6P and wouldn't even think of any other phone at this point. If you enjoy tweaking, the 6P is the phone for you. Running Cataclysm rom + ElementalX + Pay and V4A, I get between 5-6 hours of SOT, but more importantly for me, I'm usually around 30-40% after my long work day.
I've not had a single issue with any bend or warp. I always put a tempered screen protector on and a very minimal case. I would imagine any thin, larger phone will bend if in your rear pocket if sat on, the IPhone6+ had a similar "issue".

BillyTheRatKing said:
Regardless, if you already have a current generation high end Android, you're probaly better off waiting for the next generation. Unless you really got money to burn!
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Lucky the note still has good resale value here! Can sell it and pick up a 64gb Nexus for the same price off Gumtree.

omz123 said:
Yes, just read through the 'bent after 2 days' thread and that certainly sound worrying. Really wanted to switch over with the annoyances of the Note lately. Is it enough to warrant not switching or something to 'live with'?
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I don't think so, but I don't carry my phone in my pocket. I use a NiteIze belt carrier. It did make me opt for getting the phone straight from Google though, so I could get the Google Protect program on it. Cost me a little more to get it that way, but good peace of mind since all the feedback I've read about using that program has been very good.

manupa14 said:
Well here's the drill. I'm coming from a oneplus one with outstanding battery life and Ive had the note for a day now, battery life has sucked so much, so so much and it even lags sometimes, I can literally see the percentage dropping. Every site I check rates note 5 higher for battery life than note 5, which seems odd to me, and I don't know what to do, should I get the nexus 6p or keep this phone and learn to live with it? Is the oneplus one from outer space for that battery life?
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So far battery life has been excellent for me. I uploaded this for another thread but it may help answer your questions. I should mention that since the last full charge I have not been playing games or streaming video, which might have move the drop-off point up a few hours.

I am sure you can see, there are a bunch of 6P owners complaining about battery life also. My opinion is biased but my 6P seems great with all the stuffs on so far. I would recommend going a full day with location services turned off, google now fully turned off, to see how much drain there is. I came from a Note 4 and that got pretty good battery life with location services off and google now off. I manually turned the GPS on and off when I needed it. Also try removing/disabling as much Samsung and carrier bloatware as possible.

Poor battery life - just the phone, or something else?

Hello,
My Nexus 6P, albeit a great phone, is starting to get a little slow and the battery life has suffered. My memory usage isn't high, around 2GB. I close all apps after using them. I haven't even used close to half of my 64GB storage.
I am a very heavy phone user, and I am having to recharge my 6P more than once every day. I cannot sustainably use max screen brightness as it drains the battery too quickly, a shame because maximum brightness on this phone is so beautiful!
From some testing, it is taking 2 minutes and 3 seconds to drop 1% in battery life at maximum screen brightness while watching YouTube. Round to two minutes, multiply by 100, and that gives you 200 minutes. 3 hours and 20 minutes.. that is silly, plus the battery drops off faster as the percentage decreases (I tested at 94%).
Realistically, I can get 2.5-3 hours on this phone at maximum brightness - is there something wrong, or is this just the phone? While writing this post in 5 minutes, I dropped another 3%...

It should be pretty obvious that a 2k screen at maximum (!) brightness can drain the battery faster.

joooe said:
It should be pretty obvious that a 2k screen at maximum (!) brightness can drain the battery faster.
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Yes, but Techradar's test of a 90 minute video with adaptive brightness OFF (like me) takes battery down to 75%. That's 25% down in 1.5 hours, meaning the battery life of their test model would be 6 hours video playback, more than double what I get.
What gives?

Lower the brightness.

phoenixsilver said:
Yes, but Techradar's test of a 90 minute video with adaptive brightness OFF (like me) takes battery down to 75%. That's 25% down in 1.5 hours, meaning the battery life of their test model would be 6 hours video playback, more than double what I get.
What gives?
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You're taking 1 instance of a test and multiplying it as it the variables within that instance will remain the same. Batteries drain faster the more they are used in an instance because of the heat. This type of test can be done with a flashlight. Turn it on for an extended period of time and then turn it off for a few seconds. Turn it on again and the brightness will be at max (for the batteries' capacity at the time), after about 5 seconds, the light will dim suddenly.
Same thing happens in phones. Manage your brightness.
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Jammol said:
You're taking 1 instance of a test and multiplying it as it the variables within that instance will remain the same. Batteries drain faster the more they are used in an instance because of the heat. This type of test can be done with a flashlight. Turn it on for an extended period of time and then turn it off for a few seconds. Turn it on again and the brightness will be at max (for the batteries' capacity at the time), after about 5 seconds, the light will dim suddenly.
Same thing happens in phones. Manage your brightness.
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So essentially, this is just the battery life of the 6P?
Seems a little weird to give a phone such a beautiful display but we are unable to use it to its full extent because it won't last.

phoenixsilver said:
So essentially, this is just the battery life of the 6P?
Seems a little weird to give a phone such a beautiful display but we are unable to use it to its full extent because it won't last.
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I can't say that, but I can say there's no device that we can expect to just use that way. All devices (even outside of smartphones) are like that. If it runs on a battery expect not to be able to use it to its full capabilities for an extended period of time.
Cars are the same way. If you run it at max speed all the time (if there were no laws), you'll run out of gas extremely quickly, compared to 65mph. Same concept applies here. It sucks but that's the way it is.
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The battery of this phone is poor, no doubt in that. However what I found is that my previous phone (which I had to RMA) lasted much longer than the current one. Around 1-1.5-2(barely)hr more SOT. Don't know how this could happen.
Yeah, 6P is not what I expected it to be.

edios123 said:
The battery of this phone is poor, no doubt in that. However what I found is that my previous phone (which I had to RMA) lasted much longer than the current one. Around 1-1.5-2(barely)hr more SOT. Don't know how this could happen.
Yeah, 6P is not what I expected it to be.
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Not saying you are wrong, but I feel like some say that about every phone. I will have to wait and see when mine gets here.
When the Note 5 came out there were so many people saying how terrible it was with battery life. Almost turned me away from getting it. Finally decided to take the plunge and guess what? It's pretty much the same as all the other phones I have had. The phone don't suck, our usage changes based on the device we have. I use my Note 5 more than I did my Note 4, battery still lasts me all day but needs to be charged about an hour after I get home. Note 4 made it until bedtime but I had a company phone to use all day.
I'm hoping the 6P can handle me all day. No pen to use so it should be fine.
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Jammol said:
Not saying you are wrong, but I feel like some say that about every phone. I will have to wait and see when mine gets here.
When the Note 5 came out there were so many people saying how terrible it was with battery life. Almost turned me away from getting it. Finally decided to take the plunge and guess what? It's pretty much the same as all the other phones I have had. The phone don't suck, our usage changes based on the device we have. I use my Note 5 more than I did my Note 4, battery still lasts me all day but needs to be charged about an hour after I get home. Note 4 made it until bedtime but I had a company phone to use all day.
I'm hoping the 6P can handle me all day. No pen to use so it should be fine.
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I don't get why you're getting the 6P if you already have the Note 5. Like having two or more phones uh?
I got the 6P in place of the Note 5. I had a Note 4 before (it was defective I believe), it had terrible battery life (very rarely 4.5 to 5 hours SOT) and heats up to 75C very easily. Sure the 6P is cheaper, but I could've gotten the Note 5 if I wanted because this device is going to be there for at least 2 years. The thought of I can't bear anymore of TouchWiz was the only reason I got 6P. I thought the Note 5 would heat similarly and that 6P was better overall. But now I think I'm wrong, the Note 5 is a slightly better phone.
My 6P heats way too much (though not as much as my Note 4 did). Battery not upto expectation. Inconsistent camera (exposure problems). Throttling issues.

edios123 said:
I don't get why you're getting the 6P if you already have the Note 5. Like having two or more phones uh?
I got the 6P in place of the Note 5. I had a Note 4 before (it was defective I believe), it had terrible battery life (very rarely 4.5 to 5 hours SOT) and heats up to 75C very easily. Sure the 6P is cheaper, but I could've gotten the Note 5 if I wanted because this device is going to be there for at least 2 years. The thought of I can't bear anymore of TouchWiz was the only reason I got 6P. I thought the Note 5 would heat similarly and that 6P was better overall. But now I think I'm wrong, the Note 5 is a slightly better phone.
My 6P heats way too much (though not as much as my Note 4 did). Battery not upto expectation. Inconsistent camera (exposure problems). Throttling issues.
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I actually don't mind touchwiz especially now that they have trimmed most of the fat and you can theme it now. Sad I'll miss out on AOSP/CM on it but I guess that's what the Nexus line is for. As far as the 6P being worse than the Note 5, I think it's based on usage patterns. The Note 5 has it's own slew of issues, radio especially for me, it does tend to heat up but not as bad as some other phones. Slippery as hell OMG!!! And that all glass thing is just absolutely nightmarish! It is still a fantastic device though and I will miss it greatly.
I'm getting it because of Project Fi. It will be cheaper for my wife and I compared to what we pay now for T-Mobile. We will be saving just over $60. That's date night once a month right there, Lol. I am actually getting rid of my Note 5, and unfortunately earlier today I dropped it on the road without a case on!!!!!!!!!!!:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
I cried....no shame there....my own damn fault too.

Jammol said:
I actually don't mind touchwiz especially now that they have trimmed most of the fat and you can theme it now. Sad I'll miss out on AOSP/CM on it but I guess that's what the Nexus line is for. As far as the 6P being worse than the Note 5, I think it's based on usage patterns. The Note 5 has it's own slew of issues, radio especially for me, it does tend to heat up but not as bad as some other phones. Slippery as hell OMG!!! And that all glass thing is just absolutely nightmarish! It is still a fantastic device though and I will miss it greatly.
I'm getting it because of Project Fi. It will be cheaper for my wife and I compared to what we pay now for T-Mobile. We will be saving just over $60. That's date night once a month right there, Lol. I am actually getting rid of my Note 5, and unfortunately earlier today I dropped it on the road without a case on!!!!!!!!!!!:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
I cried....no shame there....my own damn fault too.
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Maaan.. You could've just used a case! :
You do know that the 6P bends very easily without a case right (I got to know after I bought the device).
So you're getting the 6P as a replacement to your Note 5? I don't get why I see many people using the 6P after the Note 5. Is the 6P actually better?
Do let me know about your thoughts when you get your phone.

I've found that since a security patch update around February that my phones battery drops so much quicker. I used to be able to get 5 hours sot. I've seen a few people post on this issue and with it being a software issue I'm becoming extremely frustrated with android. I'm ashamed to say I'm considering selling the 6p and getting an Iphone

edios123 said:
Maaan.. You could've just used a case! :
You do know that the 6P bends very easily without a case right (I got to know after I bought the device).
So you're getting the 6P as a replacement to your Note 5? I don't get why I see many people using the 6P after the Note 5. Is the 6P actually better?
Do let me know about your thoughts when you get your phone.
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Sometimes I go bare with it because I'm always "careful" lol. I plan on having a case for the 6P for sure. I'll probably go bare off and on once I get used to the device and become comfortable.
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Ritchiejoe said:
I've found that since a security patch update around February that my phones battery drops so much quicker. I used to be able to get 5 hours sot. I've seen a few people post on this issue and with it being a software issue I'm becoming extremely frustrated with android. I'm ashamed to say I'm considering selling the 6p and getting an Iphone
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No shame there. Seems like something is staying awake when it should be dozing. I'm assuming it's not rooted right?
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Is your 6p affected by the early shutdown issue?

Hey all,
I'd like to get a better view on how much 6p's are affected by this issue. I really have no clue what % we're talking about. So.. Is your 6p affected by the early shutdown issue? If not, could you tell us when you've bought your phone and, if you have accubattery installed, the capacity (health) of your battery?
Thanks in advance!

Sure am, and it's died at as high as 45% and as low as 15%. Accubattery pegs the health at about 60% and I've only had the phone about 15 months. Wanted this to be the first one I kept for two years.... Not looking likely with my 2 hours of SOT.

Lulzmaster said:
Sure am, and it's died at as high as 45% and as low as 15%. Accubattery pegs the health at about 60% and I've only had the phone about 15 months. Wanted this to be the first one I kept for two years.... Not looking likely with my 2 hours of SOT.
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Yeah this is really bad. Fortunately, I've got a new battery in it thanks to warranty. But now I'm really afraid to use the phone. I'm waiting on a response from Google on all this before using my phone again. I've used it after repair for a couple of days to see if the problem was fixed: it was.
Can't wait for the oneplus 5 to be released.

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Yeah this is really bad. Fortunately, I've got a new battery in it thanks to warranty. But now I'm really afraid to use the phone. I'm waiting on a response from Google on all this before using my phone again. I've used it after repair for a couple of days to see if the problem was fixed: it was.
Can't wait for the oneplus 5 to be released.
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It infuriates me because I love the phone and don't want to buy a new one.... But I can't have something that is going to die on me. I'm pretty pissed off with the state of Google hardware in general right now. Both the 5x and 6P are bootlooping and dying for no discernible reason, the Pixel and 6P have battery issues, although the Pixel, so far at least, doesn't seem to have them nearly as widespread. I feel like my phone is a ticking time bomb and that's really, really not cool.
Plus the supply issues with the Pixel all but rule that out as a replacement anyway.
I've owned three of the last four generations of Nexus phones, and while I was elated with the 6P when I got it, that glow has faded significantly. .

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It infuriates me because I love the phone and don't want to buy a new one.... But I can't have something that is going to die on me. I'm pretty pissed off with the state of Google hardware in general right now. Both the 5x and 6P are bootlooping and dying for no discernible reason, the Pixel and 6P have battery issues, although the Pixel, so far at least, doesn't seem to have them nearly as widespread. I feel like my phone is a ticking time bomb and that's really, really not cool.
Plus the supply issues with the Pixel all but rule that out as a replacement anyway.
I've owned three of the last four generations of Nexus phones, and while I was elated with the 6P when I got it, that glow has faded significantly. .
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Yeah that ticking timebomb feeling is really annoying. I don't even dare to use the phone now it actually works, because I'm afraid that I'll f*ck up my new battery. I'm trying to wait for an official response from Google, but it's hard. I really want to know if some software f*ckup is causing these batteries to degrade faster.

I had the issue also. I bought mine in October 2015. Accubattery was showing the battery at 60% and was shutting down at random once it got below 40%. Google sent me a refurbished phone even though it was out of warranty. So far this one hasn't shut down early and accubattery shows 95%.

I got my phone mid February (Best Buy) last year and do not have the problem. Accubattery shows my battery health at 93% (3220mah). But I also protect my battery as much as possible with when to charge and never let my phone stay plugged in when topped off either.

Never had early shutdown. Had my 6p for a few months. Accubattery shows 99%.
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murphyjasonc said:
I had the issue also. I bought mine in October 2015. Accubattery was showing the battery at 60% and was shutting down at random once it got below 40%. Google sent me a refurbished phone even though it was out of warranty. So far this one hasn't shut down early and accubattery shows 95%.
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Does the battery life itself seem to be better as well? Part of my problem is that with the screen on I'm looking at an obscene drain. According to accubattery my average drain with screen on is 1100ma/h. Hell it dropped two percent in the time it took me to type this.

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Does the battery life itself seem to be better as well? Part of my problem is that with the screen on I'm looking at an obscene drain. According to accubattery my average drain with screen on is 1100ma/h. Hell it dropped two percent in the time it took me to type this.
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Yeah the battery life is a lot better. I was doing good to get 2 hours SOT on my old phone. Same setup on this one is getting 4 to 4.5 hours SOT. I don't recall what my average drain was before but now it's about 450 ma/h. Here is a screenshot.

murphyjasonc said:
Yeah the battery life is a lot better. I was doing good to get 2 hours SOT on my old phone. Same setup on this one is getting 4 to 4.5 hours SOT. I don't recall what my average drain was before but now it's about 450 ma/h. Here is a screenshot.
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I may have to give that a shot then. Buying a new one really isn't in the budget right now. Did you flash back to stock or relock the bootloader before you sent it in?

Never had early shutdown, and have had my 6P since launch.... Mostly custom AOSP roms....

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I may have to give that a shot then. Buying a new one really isn't in the budget right now. Did you flash back to stock or relock the bootloader before you sent it in?
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I'm not sure it was necessary but I flashed back to stock and relocked bootloader. I didn't want to take any chances especially since they were replacing it out of warranty. Worst case I could have used Nexus protect either way. They tried to get me to do that when I called. I refused and once I mentioned the Reddit thread they agreed to replace. Saved me the $79.00 deductible.

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:good::good:We have two in our family and neither one is affected. One was purchased Late 2015 and another early 2016. Both show over 95% capacity in Accubattery (mine is 97%) and I can run the battery down to 1%. Both are stock 7.1.1 one is unlocked and rooted, and the other has never been unlocked. Although I could not vote for each phone, it will be interesting to check poll results a few months down the road.

swa100 said:
Yeah that ticking timebomb feeling is really annoying. I don't even dare to use the phone now it actually works, because I'm afraid that I'll f*ck up my new battery. I'm trying to wait for an official response from Google, but it's hard. I really want to know if some software f*ckup is causing these batteries to degrade faster.
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Google's official position is that the early shutdown problem and boot loop of death are both hardware issues. People are experiencing both problems on stock Marshmallow and Nougat as well as on custom ROMs.

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I'm not sure it was necessary but I flashed back to stock and relocked bootloader. I didn't want to take any chances especially since they were replacing it out of warranty. Worst case I could have used Nexus protect either way. They tried to get me to do that when I called. I refused and once I mentioned the Reddit thread they agreed to replace. Saved me the $79.00 deductible.
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Guess I'm making a call tomorrow then. Hope this straightens things up. Thanks!

Just as an update, I got my RMA last week and it has behaved flawlessly since. Accubattery is actually reporting 101% battery health, and It's taking a little getting used to having a phone that the battery doesn't die in two hours.

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Sure am, and it's died at as high as 45% and as low as 15%. Accubattery pegs the health at about 60% and I've only had the phone about 15 months. Wanted this to be the first one I kept for two years.... Not looking likely with my 2 hours of SOT.
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Same story.. getting a new battery install totally solves this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fCDOfljoQY
It's annoying not to be able to easily swap in a new battery but manufacturers could prefer people feel desperate for a yearly upgrade: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/nexus-6p-battery-replacement-options-t3628932

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Same story.. getting a new battery install totally solves this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fCDOfljoQY
It's annoying not to be able to easily swap in a new battery but manufacturers could prefer people feel desperate for a yearly upgrade: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/nexus-6p-battery-replacement-options-t3628932
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I haven't had an issue since I got my RMAd device, so yeah. I even have all the same apps installed and everything and I'm still getting ten hours of mixed usage. Performance is getting a little pokey but the phone is coming up two years old soooooooooooo I'm not surprised.
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Buy or not

I have very high demands when coming to a camera on a mobile and after analyzing the latest mobiles pictures I am as a photographer most impressed with Nexus 6P.
I have found a brand new copy of it for 350 euro.
But what makes me still not sure is the bootloop thing.
1) Does the bootloop problem comes after the phones age, is it caused by worn or is it caused by after an update?
2) I have root a few mobiles and always the camera has got a bit worse after installing CM/LOS/AOSP, is it the same with Nexus 6P? Is the camera best with the stock rom?
3) Are there any other problems with Nexus 6P that is very common?

AFAIK the bootloop is totally random - I have a 6P and never had it, but I was affected by the battery early death.
I'd look for newer phones.

Grushteniak said:
AFAIK the bootloop is totally random - I have a 6P and never had it, but I was affected by the battery early death.
I'd look for newer phones.
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LG V20 is cheap these days.
Moto Z.
If I didn't have a Nexus 6P, I would not buy one today.
There are too many alternatives.

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AFAIK the bootloop is totally random - I have a 6P and never had it, but I was affected by the battery early death.
I'd look for newer phones.
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tech_head said:
LG V20 is cheap these days.
Moto Z.
If I didn't have a Nexus 6P, I would not buy one today.
There are too many alternatives.
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The only two new phones that have better or same camera quality is Pixel and HTC U11, but their way too expensive.
V20 is like all other LG and Samsung camera, to much oversharp and unnatural colors.
There arent too many alternatives if you looking for a camera as good as Nexus 6P and with at least 5,5" display

Brand new? Not refurbished?
If it is actually brand new for 350 euro I would buy it. Yes there are alternatives but not at that price.
Basic stuff:
1) take care of the battery, don't let it go to zero (many of us had our phones replaced due to early battery death)
2) put a decent case on it, screen will crack if you drop it on a corner on a hard surface
I'm on my second 6p and I've not experienced the bootloop issue, but I did get early battery death on the first one.

cheesiepoof said:
Brand new? Not refurbished?
If it is actually brand new for 350 euro I would buy it. Yes there are alternatives but not at that price.
Basic stuff:
1) take care of the battery, don't let it go to zero (many of us had our phones replaced due to early battery death)
2) put a decent case on it, screen will crack if you drop it on a corner on a hard surface
I'm on my second 6p and I've not experienced the bootloop issue, but I did get early battery death on the first one.
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Agreed. No better camera at this price and take care of battery. I have accubattery and battery repair app. After nearly a year, still 96% health. Don't charge over 90% and don't go below 20% if possible.

Grushteniak said:
AFAIK the bootloop is totally random - I have a 6P and never had it, but I was affected by the battery early death.
I'd look for newer phones.
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tech_head said:
LG V20 is cheap these days.
Moto Z.
If I didn't have a Nexus 6P, I would not buy one today.
There are too many alternatives.
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cheesiepoof said:
Brand new? Not refurbished?
If it is actually brand new for 350 euro I would buy it. Yes there are alternatives but not at that price.
Basic stuff:
1) take care of the battery, don't let it go to zero (many of us had our phones replaced due to early battery death)
2) put a decent case on it, screen will crack if you drop it on a corner on a hard surface
I'm on my second 6p and I've not experienced the bootloop issue, but I did get early battery death on the first one.
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Brand new

I'd say go for it great phone just recently picked up one and couldn't be happier.

I was wondering the same thing since I'm thinking about dropping Sprint for T-Mobile, but the Bootloop issue that we've all heard about has me extremely worried. Anyone recommending this phone (in the US specifically) in 2017?

tropical cactus said:
Agreed. No better camera at this price and take care of battery. I have accubattery and battery repair app. After nearly a year, still 96% health. Don't charge over 90% and don't go below 20% if possible.
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What? You're joking? I never heard of any of these issues. Especially the bootloop which I JUST HAD on my LG G4! I got this phone as a replacement by a friend and it got the same issue? That's hilarious.
What's the battery thing? I can't let it go under 20%? That's rather annoying since this phone (as well as my LG G4) doesn't seem to have stellar battery life so I will as a hard user drop under 20% easily in a day. Is it really that serious?

BrotherZero said:
What? You're joking? I never heard of any of these issues. Especially the bootloop which I JUST HAD on my LG G4! I got this phone as a replacement by a friend and it got the same issue? That's hilarious.
What's the battery thing? I can't let it go under 20%? That's rather annoying since this phone (as well as my LG G4) doesn't seem to have stellar battery life so I will as a hard user drop under 20% easily in a day. Is it really that serious?
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Just telling it as it is. No boot loop and no battery problems.

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Just telling it as it is. No boot loop and no battery problems.
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Oh, I'm not questioning you. Just venting my frustration as well appreciating the humour coming from a device that had the exact same problems, and then got this device as a temporary replacement. Wonder if it's related to the Snapdragon 808/810, those SoC's weren't the best.
Could you tell me anything more about the battery issue? What is it exactly and is it common?

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Oh, I'm not questioning you. Just venting my frustration as well appreciating the humour coming from a device that had the exact same problems, and then got this device as a temporary replacement. Wonder if it's related to the Snapdragon 808/810, those SoC's weren't the best.
Could you tell me anything more about the battery issue? What is it exactly and is it common?
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Well, I've only had the device since October last year and reading about the battery problems others have had on older devices, such as shutting down at 50% has got me a bit concerned. Just following xda charging advice. I've been on nougat, dp4 and now back on last stock marshmallow build because I miss Xposed. Battery life seems better and wakelock isn't showing any apps misbehaving. Just an average user willing to take whatever advice I come across.

tropical cactus said:
Well, I've only had the device since October last year and reading about the battery problems others have had on older devices, such as shutting down at 50% has got me a bit concerned. Just following xda charging advice. I've been on nougat, dp4 and now back on last stock marshmallow build because I miss Xposed. Battery life seems better and wakelock isn't showing any apps misbehaving. Just an average user willing to take whatever advice I come across.
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Not sure how old this device I got is, but I'd guess at least one year. I'll guess I'll just have to see.
Where can I find the XDA charging advice, or is that just the one you posted, not above 96% and not below 20%. The last one is going to be tough since I suspect this device doesn't have stellar battery life so I'll easily dip below 20% in a day.
Which one is DP4? I'm on CarbonROM now (love the selection of ROMs for this device) because of it's excellent support for MicroG. About to try out Pure Nexus and LineageOS.
Isn't Xposed ready for Nougat now? Although I don't miss Xposed that much anymore after Magisk.

BrotherZero said:
Not sure how old this device I got is, but I'd guess at least one year. I'll guess I'll just have to see.
Where can I find the XDA charging advice, or is that just the one you posted, not above 96% and not below 20%. The last one is going to be tough since I suspect this device doesn't have stellar battery life so I'll easily dip below 20% in a day.
Which one is DP4? I'm on CarbonROM now (love the selection of ROMs for this device) because of it's excellent support for MicroG. About to try out Pure Nexus and LineageOS.
Isn't Xposed ready for Nougat now? Although I don't miss Xposed that much anymore after Magisk.
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http://www.techadvisor.co.uk/how-to/mobile-phone/how-properly-charge-phone-battery-3619623/
Not above 90%. Once in a while should be alright. Dp4 is the last beta of stock Android o. I usually stick to stock so I don't know much about custom roms. I use ex kernel for color profiles - can't stand stock yellowish tint. Xposed for nougat I tried. Before attempting to install any modules, other apps begin to crash. I don't know how much progress has been made since then but only a few modules work anyway. Only tried magisk to install system wide sound module once before but haven't used it since.