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Got a note 5, thinking of returning for nexus 6p (read please)

Well here's the drill. I'm coming from a oneplus one with outstanding battery life and Ive had the note for a day now, battery life has sucked so much, so so much and it even lags sometimes, I can literally see the percentage dropping. Every site I check rates note 5 higher for battery life than note 5, which seems odd to me, and I don't know what to do, should I get the nexus 6p or keep this phone and learn to live with it? Is the oneplus one from outer space for that battery life?

You might get some biased answers here since this is a 6p forum but I'd check the battery stats first, see what's causing that drain. Some phones require a few charges to optimize the battery too. Finally, it could just be a faulty model

I researched the Note 5 real hard between trying out an iPhone 6S+ and buying a 6P. I was coming from an S5 and the wife has a Note 3, which we both like quite a bit. Her Note is actually what got me wanting a bigger screen than my S5. But I did read a lot of complaints about the Note 5 battery life (and the glass backs cracking, even saw a display model at Best Buy with a busted back glass). And being I'm Verizon with no chance to root a Note 5, I opted for the 6P. Battery life has been very good with a few tweaks. Browse through the threads here to find what works. And you don't have to go nuts with the tweaks. For me, just running a custom Kernel, using Greenify for a few apps and not installing GasBuddy were all that was needed.

The Nexus 6P is a great device from a software point of view (= guaranteed updates, no Knox or other nasty stuff ) but not very durable from a mechanical point of view. You really have to take care when using this phone because the Aluminum body is weak and prone to warping or bending. That´s the only downside of this device..

I would say if you're looking to switch because of battery life you likely won't find find much relief by switching to the Nexus 6P. Most new high end phones are clocking in 4-6 hours of screen on time. The Oneplus One may have provided you better battery life due to the lower resolution screen, older (probably less power hungry) processor, and tweaks that were part of CyanogenMod. What kind of screen on time are you getting between the Oneplus One and Note 5?
In terms of performance, I haven't seen a single issue with the Nexus 6P, but screen on time maxes out for me around 4-5 hours. The standby time has been much improved in Marshmallow, but that update should be seen soon-ish on the Note 5.

I've found myself in the same boat, the Note is pretty damn good but there are some software issues such as the memory management, bloat and most of all 32gb not being close to enough HD space. Is the warp thing really an issue? I've not heard of anything regarding it.

omz123 said:
I've found myself in the same boat, the Note is pretty damn good but there are some software issues such as the memory management, bloat and most of all 32gb not being close to enough HD space. Is the warp thing really an issue? I've not heard of anything regarding it.
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Yes, it is an issue. I'd be willing to say that almost every device will suffer from it (even if the owner does not realise) mine warped after a day in a case.

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Yes, it is an issue. I'd be willing to say that almost every device will suffer from it (even if the owner does not realise) mine warped after a day in a case.
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Yes, just read through the 'bent after 2 days' thread and that certainly sound worrying. Really wanted to switch over with the annoyances of the Note lately. Is it enough to warrant not switching or something to 'live with'?

You won't notice it honestly, I just make sure I don't sit on it or anything. The phone itself is a lot better than the note 5. Worth the buy if you're careful

omz123 said:
Yes, just read through the 'bent after 2 days' thread and that certainly sound worrying. Really wanted to switch over with the annoyances of the Note lately. Is it enough to warrant not switching or something to 'live with'?
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If I have any kind of warping on my Nexus 6P I can't see it. The only time warping might be bothersome is if you want to use a tempered glass screen protector, as it will peel away from the display.
Regardless, if you already have a current generation high end Android, you're probaly better off waiting for the next generation. Unless you really got money to burn!

I had the Note 5 before upgrading to the 6P. I am much happier with the 6P, it's better in every way IMO with the exception of the Note 5 having a bit better camera.

I had a OPO and loved the battery life, I went to the N6 and then the N6P and wouldn't even think of any other phone at this point. If you enjoy tweaking, the 6P is the phone for you. Running Cataclysm rom + ElementalX + Pay and V4A, I get between 5-6 hours of SOT, but more importantly for me, I'm usually around 30-40% after my long work day.
I've not had a single issue with any bend or warp. I always put a tempered screen protector on and a very minimal case. I would imagine any thin, larger phone will bend if in your rear pocket if sat on, the IPhone6+ had a similar "issue".

BillyTheRatKing said:
Regardless, if you already have a current generation high end Android, you're probaly better off waiting for the next generation. Unless you really got money to burn!
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Lucky the note still has good resale value here! Can sell it and pick up a 64gb Nexus for the same price off Gumtree.

omz123 said:
Yes, just read through the 'bent after 2 days' thread and that certainly sound worrying. Really wanted to switch over with the annoyances of the Note lately. Is it enough to warrant not switching or something to 'live with'?
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I don't think so, but I don't carry my phone in my pocket. I use a NiteIze belt carrier. It did make me opt for getting the phone straight from Google though, so I could get the Google Protect program on it. Cost me a little more to get it that way, but good peace of mind since all the feedback I've read about using that program has been very good.

manupa14 said:
Well here's the drill. I'm coming from a oneplus one with outstanding battery life and Ive had the note for a day now, battery life has sucked so much, so so much and it even lags sometimes, I can literally see the percentage dropping. Every site I check rates note 5 higher for battery life than note 5, which seems odd to me, and I don't know what to do, should I get the nexus 6p or keep this phone and learn to live with it? Is the oneplus one from outer space for that battery life?
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So far battery life has been excellent for me. I uploaded this for another thread but it may help answer your questions. I should mention that since the last full charge I have not been playing games or streaming video, which might have move the drop-off point up a few hours.

I am sure you can see, there are a bunch of 6P owners complaining about battery life also. My opinion is biased but my 6P seems great with all the stuffs on so far. I would recommend going a full day with location services turned off, google now fully turned off, to see how much drain there is. I came from a Note 4 and that got pretty good battery life with location services off and google now off. I manually turned the GPS on and off when I needed it. Also try removing/disabling as much Samsung and carrier bloatware as possible.

Is your 6p affected by the early shutdown issue?

Hey all,
I'd like to get a better view on how much 6p's are affected by this issue. I really have no clue what % we're talking about. So.. Is your 6p affected by the early shutdown issue? If not, could you tell us when you've bought your phone and, if you have accubattery installed, the capacity (health) of your battery?
Thanks in advance!

Sure am, and it's died at as high as 45% and as low as 15%. Accubattery pegs the health at about 60% and I've only had the phone about 15 months. Wanted this to be the first one I kept for two years.... Not looking likely with my 2 hours of SOT.

Lulzmaster said:
Sure am, and it's died at as high as 45% and as low as 15%. Accubattery pegs the health at about 60% and I've only had the phone about 15 months. Wanted this to be the first one I kept for two years.... Not looking likely with my 2 hours of SOT.
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Yeah this is really bad. Fortunately, I've got a new battery in it thanks to warranty. But now I'm really afraid to use the phone. I'm waiting on a response from Google on all this before using my phone again. I've used it after repair for a couple of days to see if the problem was fixed: it was.
Can't wait for the oneplus 5 to be released.

swa100 said:
Yeah this is really bad. Fortunately, I've got a new battery in it thanks to warranty. But now I'm really afraid to use the phone. I'm waiting on a response from Google on all this before using my phone again. I've used it after repair for a couple of days to see if the problem was fixed: it was.
Can't wait for the oneplus 5 to be released.
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It infuriates me because I love the phone and don't want to buy a new one.... But I can't have something that is going to die on me. I'm pretty pissed off with the state of Google hardware in general right now. Both the 5x and 6P are bootlooping and dying for no discernible reason, the Pixel and 6P have battery issues, although the Pixel, so far at least, doesn't seem to have them nearly as widespread. I feel like my phone is a ticking time bomb and that's really, really not cool.
Plus the supply issues with the Pixel all but rule that out as a replacement anyway.
I've owned three of the last four generations of Nexus phones, and while I was elated with the 6P when I got it, that glow has faded significantly. .

Lulzmaster said:
It infuriates me because I love the phone and don't want to buy a new one.... But I can't have something that is going to die on me. I'm pretty pissed off with the state of Google hardware in general right now. Both the 5x and 6P are bootlooping and dying for no discernible reason, the Pixel and 6P have battery issues, although the Pixel, so far at least, doesn't seem to have them nearly as widespread. I feel like my phone is a ticking time bomb and that's really, really not cool.
Plus the supply issues with the Pixel all but rule that out as a replacement anyway.
I've owned three of the last four generations of Nexus phones, and while I was elated with the 6P when I got it, that glow has faded significantly. .
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Yeah that ticking timebomb feeling is really annoying. I don't even dare to use the phone now it actually works, because I'm afraid that I'll f*ck up my new battery. I'm trying to wait for an official response from Google, but it's hard. I really want to know if some software f*ckup is causing these batteries to degrade faster.

I had the issue also. I bought mine in October 2015. Accubattery was showing the battery at 60% and was shutting down at random once it got below 40%. Google sent me a refurbished phone even though it was out of warranty. So far this one hasn't shut down early and accubattery shows 95%.

I got my phone mid February (Best Buy) last year and do not have the problem. Accubattery shows my battery health at 93% (3220mah). But I also protect my battery as much as possible with when to charge and never let my phone stay plugged in when topped off either.

Never had early shutdown. Had my 6p for a few months. Accubattery shows 99%.
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murphyjasonc said:
I had the issue also. I bought mine in October 2015. Accubattery was showing the battery at 60% and was shutting down at random once it got below 40%. Google sent me a refurbished phone even though it was out of warranty. So far this one hasn't shut down early and accubattery shows 95%.
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Does the battery life itself seem to be better as well? Part of my problem is that with the screen on I'm looking at an obscene drain. According to accubattery my average drain with screen on is 1100ma/h. Hell it dropped two percent in the time it took me to type this.

Lulzmaster said:
Does the battery life itself seem to be better as well? Part of my problem is that with the screen on I'm looking at an obscene drain. According to accubattery my average drain with screen on is 1100ma/h. Hell it dropped two percent in the time it took me to type this.
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Yeah the battery life is a lot better. I was doing good to get 2 hours SOT on my old phone. Same setup on this one is getting 4 to 4.5 hours SOT. I don't recall what my average drain was before but now it's about 450 ma/h. Here is a screenshot.

murphyjasonc said:
Yeah the battery life is a lot better. I was doing good to get 2 hours SOT on my old phone. Same setup on this one is getting 4 to 4.5 hours SOT. I don't recall what my average drain was before but now it's about 450 ma/h. Here is a screenshot.
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I may have to give that a shot then. Buying a new one really isn't in the budget right now. Did you flash back to stock or relock the bootloader before you sent it in?

Never had early shutdown, and have had my 6P since launch.... Mostly custom AOSP roms....

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I may have to give that a shot then. Buying a new one really isn't in the budget right now. Did you flash back to stock or relock the bootloader before you sent it in?
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I'm not sure it was necessary but I flashed back to stock and relocked bootloader. I didn't want to take any chances especially since they were replacing it out of warranty. Worst case I could have used Nexus protect either way. They tried to get me to do that when I called. I refused and once I mentioned the Reddit thread they agreed to replace. Saved me the $79.00 deductible.

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:good::good:We have two in our family and neither one is affected. One was purchased Late 2015 and another early 2016. Both show over 95% capacity in Accubattery (mine is 97%) and I can run the battery down to 1%. Both are stock 7.1.1 one is unlocked and rooted, and the other has never been unlocked. Although I could not vote for each phone, it will be interesting to check poll results a few months down the road.

swa100 said:
Yeah that ticking timebomb feeling is really annoying. I don't even dare to use the phone now it actually works, because I'm afraid that I'll f*ck up my new battery. I'm trying to wait for an official response from Google, but it's hard. I really want to know if some software f*ckup is causing these batteries to degrade faster.
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Google's official position is that the early shutdown problem and boot loop of death are both hardware issues. People are experiencing both problems on stock Marshmallow and Nougat as well as on custom ROMs.

murphyjasonc said:
I'm not sure it was necessary but I flashed back to stock and relocked bootloader. I didn't want to take any chances especially since they were replacing it out of warranty. Worst case I could have used Nexus protect either way. They tried to get me to do that when I called. I refused and once I mentioned the Reddit thread they agreed to replace. Saved me the $79.00 deductible.
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Guess I'm making a call tomorrow then. Hope this straightens things up. Thanks!

Just as an update, I got my RMA last week and it has behaved flawlessly since. Accubattery is actually reporting 101% battery health, and It's taking a little getting used to having a phone that the battery doesn't die in two hours.

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Lulzmaster said:
Sure am, and it's died at as high as 45% and as low as 15%. Accubattery pegs the health at about 60% and I've only had the phone about 15 months. Wanted this to be the first one I kept for two years.... Not looking likely with my 2 hours of SOT.
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Same story.. getting a new battery install totally solves this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fCDOfljoQY
It's annoying not to be able to easily swap in a new battery but manufacturers could prefer people feel desperate for a yearly upgrade: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/nexus-6p-battery-replacement-options-t3628932

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Same story.. getting a new battery install totally solves this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fCDOfljoQY
It's annoying not to be able to easily swap in a new battery but manufacturers could prefer people feel desperate for a yearly upgrade: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/nexus-6p-battery-replacement-options-t3628932
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I haven't had an issue since I got my RMAd device, so yeah. I even have all the same apps installed and everything and I'm still getting ten hours of mixed usage. Performance is getting a little pokey but the phone is coming up two years old soooooooooooo I'm not surprised.
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Is the Android O beta FIXING the sudden shutdown on 6P ?

Hi.
Many of us has sudden shutdown on Android 7.1.1/2...
May be some one knows will the O version fix it ?
Thanks !

Unlikely. The "sudden shutdown" issue is believed to be a battery problem, not an OS issue.

The same we said about 7.1.2 and nothing happened and since Google is still silent means they can't ever fix it or they don't want to bother. I think Huawei just used very crappy low quality motherboards/batteries in all 6Ps or just in some.

Replace your battery...

Nobody knows FOR CERTAIN if it's software or hardware related. Seeing that it has tackled the issue on the pixel, they could have looked into it for the 6P. You can try reaching Google support about that since that kind of issue would be a defect whether it be softwares or hardware related.
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Riardon said:
The same we said about 7.1.2 and nothing happened and since Google is still silent means they can't ever fix it or they don't want to bother. I think Huawei just used very crappy low quality motherboards/batteries in all 6Ps or just in some.
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i dont get why people think an os update is going to fix their failing battery.

Dadud said:
i dont get why people think an os update is going to fix their failing battery.
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Well Pixel had the same issue and they fixed it with 7.1.2. The 6P appears to be something entirely different. Most probably bad quality batteries.

Yeah this is definitely a hardware issue.

crixley said:
Yeah this is definitely a hardware issue.
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What makes it definitely a hardware issue? Several other phones have been experiencing this. Google has even made a fix for the pixel with the exact same issue. https://support.google.com/pixelphone/forum/AAAAb4-OgUsh9qq56zHiuU/?hl=by
I don't understand how early shutdowns are batter related. Degraded batteries just hit 0% quicker, but to have it just shut down at 30%?
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I am running 8 and I do not have the shutdown problem like I did previously. So there had to be some tweaks that come along with the new version.

sb erb said:
I am running 8 and I do not have the shutdown problem like I did previously. So there had to be some tweaks that come along with the new version.
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That's interesting, my hasn't been fixed with O. Glad it fixed yours though

richii0207 said:
What makes it definitely a hardware issue? Several other phones have been experiencing this. Google has even made a fix for the pixel with the exact same issue. https://support.google.com/pixelphone/forum/AAAAb4-OgUsh9qq56zHiuU/?hl=by
I don't understand how early shutdowns are batter related. Degraded batteries just hit 0% quicker, but to have it just shut down at 30%?
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1.) Only effects a tiny amount, even though all are using same software
2.) Not fixed by installing any software, even custom versions
3.) Would not need to be a degraded battery, would more likely be a faulty motherboard

crixley said:
1.) Only effects a tiny amount, even though all are using same software
2.) Not fixed by installing any software, even custom versions
3.) Would not need to be a degraded battery, would more likely be a faulty motherboard
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I hope is not the 3rd option!
Too many people changed the battery and solved this issue.
But still there could be also to many people that changed the battery and still have the issue (I'm not sure of the second part though)
I'm only talking about people who changed the battery by themselves. Since we never know what really happened with the 6Ps that were sent to RMA.
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Offtopic: For the 5X there is a theory about not controlling max temperature when it's booting android and this could had affected the bad soldering of the logic board (specially when it's applying a complex OTA like the one updating from Android M to N..this is why I think many people blamed N to introduce the bootloop in the 5X many phones died hours after this update...but mine died from 7.1.2 beta to 7.1.2 beta II an smaller OTA/update)
As for the 6P I don't really know...this issue started with N? If it's the battery maybe the Huawei battery is very sensible to heat and degrades quickly?
My theory so far (as a new 6P user with terrible battery life and early shutdown) is that the Huawei battery is terrible.

thesebastian said:
I hope is not the 3rd option!
Too many people changed the battery and solved this issue.
But still there could be also to many people that changed the battery and still have the issue (I'm not sure of the second part though)
I'm only talking about people who changed the battery by themselves. Since we never know what really happened with the 6Ps that were sent to RMA.
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Offtopic: For the 5X there is a theory about not controlling max temperature when it's booting android and this could had affected the bad soldering of the logic board (specially when it's applying a complex OTA like the one updating from Android M to N..this is why I think many people blamed N to introduce the bootloop in the 5X many phones died hours after this update...but mine died from 7.1.2 beta to 7.1.2 beta II an smaller OTA/update)
As for the 6P I don't really know...this issue started with N? If it's the battery maybe the Huawei battery is very sensible to heat and degrades quickly?
My theory so far (as a new 6P user with terrible battery life and early shutdown) is that the Huawei battery is terrible.
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I really hope it's only battery issue.
Anyway, I had 5X before, and it died while I was on Android 7. I sent it to LG US and they told me it's a motherboard.
... Like all other LG phones...

yanleites said:
I really hope it's only battery issue.
Anyway, I had 5X before, and it died while I was on Android 7. I sent it to LG US and they told me it's a motherboard.
... Like all other LG phones...
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Yes in the 5X "the issue" is the motherboard.
Battery is the same after more than a year.
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I alreadyt tried installing the beta and it didn't solve the problem. THe battery could be the issue, I am going to replace mine

I had the sudden shutdown issue on my Nexus 6P alongwith pathetic battery life. Got the battery replaced through Huawei and the phone works as good as new. Around 4.5 hrs SOT instead of around 2 hrs SOT earlier and no more sudden shutdowns.

NishantM said:
I had the sudden shutdown issue on my Nexus 6P alongwith pathetic battery life. Got the battery replaced through Huawei and the phone works as good as new. Around 4.5 hrs SOT instead of around 2 hrs SOT earlier and no more sudden shutdowns.
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This is what I'm hoping after replacing my battery soon. But we are not really sure if Huawei did other changes there.
But we do know that many people changed the battery themselves and worked.
Sent from my Nexus 6P

thesebastian said:
This is what I'm hoping after replacing my battery soon. But we are not really sure if Huawei did other changes there.
But we do know that many people changed the battery themselves and worked.
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In my case, they didn't do anything else as I categorically told them to just replace the battery and not do anything else like downgrading the OS etc. which they were willing to do.

NishantM said:
In my case, they didn't do anything else as I categorically told them to just replace the battery and not do nothing else like downgrading the OS etc. which they were willing to do.
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Good to know then thanks!
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Still worth in 2017?

I'm entertaining the thought of getting a Nexus 6P this 2017. I understand updates will still be that quick and supported by 2018 but I have some questions:
1. Is it true the 6P has some water-resistant powers that it's considered safe to use during light rain or a spill of water or soda?
2. I heard that a "bug" causes the phone to crash or turn off unexpectedly when the battery dips below 10%?
3. Is it also true the wifi and bluetooth can sometimes be erratic?
Need your comments please. Cheers.

I have the 6P Since 20th July..
And non of these issues had with me.
Get the one plus 3.. N6P is too old now
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Gino76ph said:
I'm entertaining the thought of getting a Nexus 6P this 2017. I understand updates will still be that quick and supported by 2018 but I have some questions:
1. Is it true the 6P has some water-resistant powers that it's considered safe to use during light rain or a spill of water or soda?
2. I heard that a "bug" causes the phone to crash or turn off unexpectedly when the battery dips below 10%?
3. Is it also true the wifi and bluetooth can sometimes be erratic?
Need your comments please. Cheers.
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I just sold mine on eBay.. I liked the phone allot but it was just too big for me to carry at work. I never had any problems with mine the entire time I had it.
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No problems since launch. There exceptions for some....

Abdulaziz6p said:
I have the 6P Since 20th July..
And non of these issues had with me.
Get the one plus 3.. N6P is too old now
So, no issues with water damage or phone dying when battery goes under 15%?
I'm reluctant to get a OnePlus phone. I have heard many great things about their phones but company it seems has a poor track record when it comes to Customer Support and after sales service.
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Gino76ph said:
Abdulaziz6p said:
I have the 6P Since 20th July..
And non of these issues had with me.
Get the one plus 3.. N6P is too old now
So, no issues with water damage or phone dying when battery goes under 15%?
I'm reluctant to get a OnePlus phone. I have heard many great things about their phones but company it seems has a poor track record when it comes to Customer Support and after sales service.
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Yes sir. Nothing had on mine
And you're right about OnePlus...
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Gino76ph said:
I'm entertaining the thought of getting a Nexus 6P this 2017. I understand updates will still be that quick and supported by 2018 but I have some questions:
1. Is it true the 6P has some water-resistant powers that it's considered safe to use during light rain or a spill of water or soda?
2. I heard that a "bug" causes the phone to crash or turn off unexpectedly when the battery dips below 10%?
3. Is it also true the wifi and bluetooth can sometimes be erratic?
Need your comments please. Cheers.
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I bought the Nexus6P back in December because it was a great open box deal, and I couldn't be happier.
I've never encountered any of the issues you mentioned at all, and I find it to still be super snappy under normal use, plus the battery is great.
I can't comment on the water-resistance because I try not to allow it to get wet at all; that said, I'm sure you can just youtube people stress testing their poor 6p phones.
I will agree with others here though in saying that it is a bit large - I did want to pixel (not the XL) as it's size is much better, but the price was too high.

So, in 2017 what old flagship would you choose in terms of battery life, overall speed & performance and an excellent camera...a Nexus 6P, OnePlus 3T or Galaxy S7?

Gino76ph said:
So, in 2017 what old flagship would you choose in terms of battery life, overall speed & performance and an excellent camera...a Nexus 6P, OnePlus 3T or Galaxy S7?
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Nexus 6P, hands down. Mine consistently lasts all day (about 18 hours) with moderate to heavy usage (browsing XDA with Tapatalk, social media, etc), takes amazing pictures, and is very fast/responsive.
I have no experience with the OnePlus 3T, but my mom's Galaxy S7 was awful. It had horrible battery life, ugly software, and performance was very janky. The cameras were pretty good, though.
You can't go wrong with a Nexus phone. The amazing developers here on XDA keep them alive long after Google drops support.

Problem is I'm not into rooting and I only depend on software updates via OTA.
I also heard about the device freezing, radios (such as bluetooth, wifi, etc.) kept playing up and phone dies after only 15% (or below) battery life.

Gino76ph said:
Problem is I'm not into rooting and I only depend on software updates via OTA.
I also heard about the device freezing, radios (such as bluetooth, wifi, etc.) kept playing up and phone dies after only 15% (or below) battery life.
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Even if you're not into rooting, you'll still get OTA updates with the latest security patches/bug fixes months before any other phone. The 6P should be supported up until Android 9.0, so you'd be good for another 14 months or so.
If you do decide to take a walk on the wild side and root after Google drops support, Nexus phones are very easy to unlock, root, and customize.
As for the freezing, I've never experienced this while stock. The only time my device has ever frozen/crashed was due to something stupid I did, like changing the file system, or risky kernel settings.
I don't use Bluetooth, so I can't provide any feedback there, but I can vouch for WiFi being very stable.
The shutdown/battery issues are caused by degraded batteries. There's no avoiding it, batteries are rated for a certain number of charge cycles and wear out over time, but there are things you can do to extend the life of your battery:
1. Don't expose your phone to extreme hot/cold temperatures. Using it in the summer or winter is ok, but don't put it in the freezer to run benchmarks or to keep it cool while installing updates. If you must keep it cool, take it out of its case (if you have one) and place it in front of a fan. I always place my phone in front of a fan when installing a new ROM or anything CPU intensive to keep it cool.
2. Don't use fast charging unless absolutely necessary, such as you're heading out for a hot date in 20 minutes but you only have 15% left. If you're charging your phone overnight, there's no need to use the fast charger. I've been using the 1 amp wall adapter from my Galaxy Nexus to charge my 6P overnight and the battery is just as good as day one with no random shutdowns.
3. Don't play games, install updates, or anything that may cause the phone/battery to heat up while the phone is charging. Browsing the web, listening to music, texting, or other light tasks are fine, but playing Asphalt 8, installing the latest OTA, or whatever while charging will cause your battery to heat up and wear it out faster.
4. Charge the phone while off if possible. The reason for this is when powered on and the battery reaches 100% it stops charging (obviously). When the battery drops to 98% it starts charging again. If you charge overnight with the phone on the 2% drop/recharge will happen multiple times, causing unnecessary charge cycles and wearing out the battery.
5. Try to avoid letting the battery go below 15-20%. Discharging the battery too far too often wears it out faster.
6. If you want to get really anal about this, charge the battery when it reaches 20% and unplug it when it reaches 80%. This counts as only half of a charge cycle, thus extending the life of your battery. There's an app on XDA that stops charging at whatever limit you decide, but I believe it requires root.
I recommend buying your 6P new (if you decide to go with it and if you can find one). When you buy a used phone you have no idea how badly the battery was abused.

Gino76ph said:
Abdulaziz6p said:
I have the 6P Since 20th July..
And non of these issues had with me.
Get the one plus 3.. N6P is too old now
So, no issues with water damage or phone dying when battery goes under 15%?
I'm reluctant to get a OnePlus phone. I have heard many great things about their phones but company it seems has a poor track record when it comes to Customer Support and after sales service.
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I just sold my OnePlus 3T, it was a great phone, the only thing that disappointed me was the camera. If camera was as good as the 6P I would of kept it for another year. It is very poor in low light and bad focus on the simplest shots. I think the OnePlus 5 will be the phone to look to next for a mid priced beast.
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It's too old and you may fell angry with the hot 810 SOC

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It's too old and you may fell angry with the hot 810 SOC
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It's not too old. I have one and it is better than many phones years newer than it imo. I have no lag or stutters and it never heats up or has any problems. I'd definitely recommend this phone any day as it is just so good for its age.

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It's too old and you may fell angry with the hot 810 SOC
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My 6P doesn't get hot, even when playing CPU/GPU intensive games like Asphalt 8. The 810 has been tamed on the 6P.

The only good thing 6P has going for it is it's front speakers and the camera performance. Android 8/O wont fix it's short battery life, nor its laughable audio and call quality along with the random wifi connection issues...

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The only good thing 6P has going for it is it's front speakers and the camera performance. Android 8/O wont fix it's short battery life, nor its laughable audio and call quality along with the random wifi connection issues...
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Those issues are some most users including myself never have had. Those kind of issues are not device specific either and the battery is actually pretty good for the phones age. The camera is amazing with 4k quality so I don't know what you're smoking and the audio quite actually is pretty decent and doesn't have crackling or tinny sounds. The call quality is actually amazing and very clear even compared to newer phones and my home phone. At times it can be quite but there are mods for that but for general users the audio is good enough. Keep in mind that many issues you may have heard are a small percentage and are usually reports from devices with an old degraded battery and maybe a buggy custom rom. Should I assume you don't have a nexus 6p? Before talking about a phone you don't have try researching about it.

I've been lurking for a few in this part of the forum. I currently own the Nexus 6 and they have reached EOL and was considering a jump to this one. Do you guys recommend it, I'm leery about the bootloop issues and early shut down of the phone but from what I've seen around the forums if you don't have those you guys are pretty happy with the device.

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I've been lurking for a few in this part of the forum. I currently own the Nexus 6 and they have reached EOL and was considering a jump to this one. Do you guys recommend it, I'm leery about the bootloop issues and early shut down of the phone but from what I've seen around the forums if you don't have those you guys are pretty happy with the device.
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It is one of if not the best phones that came out at that time and is a fairly good price. The bootloop issues are not software related but occur when someone's battery degrades due to having it a long time or not taking care of it and how it is charged. Also the development on this phone including roms and kernels etc is some of the best. It is an amazing phone with no lags or bootloop issues and aslong as you aren't an idiot with your charging you shouldn't need to worry about any issues.

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It is one of if not the best phones that came out at that time and is a fairly good price. The bootloop issues are not software related but occur when someone's battery degrades due to having it a long time or not taking care of it and how it is charged. Also the development on this phone including roms and kernels etc is some of the best. It is an amazing phone with no lags or bootloop issues and aslong as you aren't an idiot with your charging you shouldn't need to worry about any issues.
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Plus I get to stick with Beans Roms, nothing against other developers as I'm sure they are good too but I've been a user of Beans roms for quite some time. Thanks, I loved my Nexus 6 but since it's only 32 bit it's time is coming to an end.

Been trying to fix my 6p, it's not in bootloop, however

... it only reboots itself when it is NOT charged and run a heavy CPU app.
So the phone is usable. However when I run youtube without charging, it might have a chance to reboot. The phone had already changed battery few months ago and it was running fine until the Oreo patch, then it starts to reboot itself randomly. I've done the 4core patch (TWRP 3.2.1) and the phone is slow as hell (as expected). Google chrome seems to seem to use all 8 cores and cause the phone to reboot still.
So the scenairo is that if it's charging, the phone won't have any issues except for slowness. Battery is getting worst and worst everyday like the battery issue that shows up among 6p users. But this battery is pretty new.
What else should I patch this with? Maybe I never did it right?
Build - OPM.5.171019.015
Kernel - 3.10.73.9
Oreo 8.1.0
Angler -0.85
Feb 2018

foxfai said:
... it only reboots itself when it is NOT charged and run a heavy CPU app.
So the phone is usable. However when I run youtube without charging, it might have a chance to reboot. The phone had already changed battery few months ago and it was running fine until the Oreo patch, then it starts to reboot itself randomly. I've done the 4core patch (TWRP 3.2.1) and the phone is slow as hell (as expected). Google chrome seems to seem to use all 8 cores and cause the phone to reboot still.
So the scenairo is that if it's charging, the phone won't have any issues except for slowness. Battery is getting worst and worst everyday like the battery issue that shows up among 6p users. But this battery is pretty new.
What else should I patch this with? Maybe I never did it right?
Build - OPM.5.171019.015
Kernel - 3.10.73.9
Oreo 8.1.0
Angler -0.85
Feb 2018
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What kind of battery did you replace it with? Because I read that these non original batteries cause a lot of problems.

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What kind of battery did you replace it with? Because I read that these non original batteries cause a lot of problems.
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Grabbed it from ebay. One of the many "oem" batteries that comes from China.....
Of course I won't know if they are all fake or not since they don't make them anymore. Upon search for them again there are many of the same but older manufacture dates that I can see in photos.

foxfai said:
Grabbed it from ebay. One of the many "oem" batteries that comes from China.....
Of course I won't know if they are all fake or not since they don't make them anymore. Upon search for them again there are many of the same but older manufacture dates that I can see in photos.
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Yes you can tell the original battery's ribbon cable is kind of fat while the newer ones are thin and it also has a temperature sensor built in the battery while the non originals don't . Here's a pic to show you what I mean left is the real original and the right is a cheap knockoff

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Yes you can tell the original battery's ribbon cable is kind of fat while the newer ones are thin and it also has a temperature sensor built in the battery while the non originals don't . Here's a pic to show you what I mean left is the real original and the right is a cheap knockoff
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Can I have the website for the purchase of the original battery of Nexus 6P? Thank you.

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Can I have the website for the purchase of the original battery of Nexus 6P? Thank you.
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I bought mine on eBay awhile back but I found this one. Its a little expensive but its worth it in the long run.https://m.ebay.com/itm/Original-Bat...wei-Google-Nexus-6P-H1511-H1512-/173100893141

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I bought mine on eBay awhile back but I found this one. Its a little expensive but its worth it in the long run.https://m.ebay.com/itm/Original-Bat...wei-Google-Nexus-6P-H1511-H1512-/173100893141
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Thanks for the pointer in regards to the temp sensor on the battery. Almost 90% of those ones are fake on ebay.
However after brainstorming some ideas and looking through some threads. I was able to root the 6p and clock down the CPU a nudge. It was already running on 4 basic cores only and had to clock them down to 960mhz. This way the phone was able to be use without charge most of today until battery hit 50%.
This is just my temporary solution. Will see if I want to put in another battery to have this last a little longer.