Hi.
Many of us has sudden shutdown on Android 7.1.1/2...
May be some one knows will the O version fix it ?
Thanks !
Unlikely. The "sudden shutdown" issue is believed to be a battery problem, not an OS issue.
The same we said about 7.1.2 and nothing happened and since Google is still silent means they can't ever fix it or they don't want to bother. I think Huawei just used very crappy low quality motherboards/batteries in all 6Ps or just in some.
Replace your battery...
Nobody knows FOR CERTAIN if it's software or hardware related. Seeing that it has tackled the issue on the pixel, they could have looked into it for the 6P. You can try reaching Google support about that since that kind of issue would be a defect whether it be softwares or hardware related.
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Riardon said:
The same we said about 7.1.2 and nothing happened and since Google is still silent means they can't ever fix it or they don't want to bother. I think Huawei just used very crappy low quality motherboards/batteries in all 6Ps or just in some.
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i dont get why people think an os update is going to fix their failing battery.
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i dont get why people think an os update is going to fix their failing battery.
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Well Pixel had the same issue and they fixed it with 7.1.2. The 6P appears to be something entirely different. Most probably bad quality batteries.
Yeah this is definitely a hardware issue.
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Yeah this is definitely a hardware issue.
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What makes it definitely a hardware issue? Several other phones have been experiencing this. Google has even made a fix for the pixel with the exact same issue. https://support.google.com/pixelphone/forum/AAAAb4-OgUsh9qq56zHiuU/?hl=by
I don't understand how early shutdowns are batter related. Degraded batteries just hit 0% quicker, but to have it just shut down at 30%?
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I am running 8 and I do not have the shutdown problem like I did previously. So there had to be some tweaks that come along with the new version.
sb erb said:
I am running 8 and I do not have the shutdown problem like I did previously. So there had to be some tweaks that come along with the new version.
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That's interesting, my hasn't been fixed with O. Glad it fixed yours though
richii0207 said:
What makes it definitely a hardware issue? Several other phones have been experiencing this. Google has even made a fix for the pixel with the exact same issue. https://support.google.com/pixelphone/forum/AAAAb4-OgUsh9qq56zHiuU/?hl=by
I don't understand how early shutdowns are batter related. Degraded batteries just hit 0% quicker, but to have it just shut down at 30%?
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1.) Only effects a tiny amount, even though all are using same software
2.) Not fixed by installing any software, even custom versions
3.) Would not need to be a degraded battery, would more likely be a faulty motherboard
crixley said:
1.) Only effects a tiny amount, even though all are using same software
2.) Not fixed by installing any software, even custom versions
3.) Would not need to be a degraded battery, would more likely be a faulty motherboard
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I hope is not the 3rd option!
Too many people changed the battery and solved this issue.
But still there could be also to many people that changed the battery and still have the issue (I'm not sure of the second part though)
I'm only talking about people who changed the battery by themselves. Since we never know what really happened with the 6Ps that were sent to RMA.
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Offtopic: For the 5X there is a theory about not controlling max temperature when it's booting android and this could had affected the bad soldering of the logic board (specially when it's applying a complex OTA like the one updating from Android M to N..this is why I think many people blamed N to introduce the bootloop in the 5X many phones died hours after this update...but mine died from 7.1.2 beta to 7.1.2 beta II an smaller OTA/update)
As for the 6P I don't really know...this issue started with N? If it's the battery maybe the Huawei battery is very sensible to heat and degrades quickly?
My theory so far (as a new 6P user with terrible battery life and early shutdown) is that the Huawei battery is terrible.
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I hope is not the 3rd option!
Too many people changed the battery and solved this issue.
But still there could be also to many people that changed the battery and still have the issue (I'm not sure of the second part though)
I'm only talking about people who changed the battery by themselves. Since we never know what really happened with the 6Ps that were sent to RMA.
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Offtopic: For the 5X there is a theory about not controlling max temperature when it's booting android and this could had affected the bad soldering of the logic board (specially when it's applying a complex OTA like the one updating from Android M to N..this is why I think many people blamed N to introduce the bootloop in the 5X many phones died hours after this update...but mine died from 7.1.2 beta to 7.1.2 beta II an smaller OTA/update)
As for the 6P I don't really know...this issue started with N? If it's the battery maybe the Huawei battery is very sensible to heat and degrades quickly?
My theory so far (as a new 6P user with terrible battery life and early shutdown) is that the Huawei battery is terrible.
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I really hope it's only battery issue.
Anyway, I had 5X before, and it died while I was on Android 7. I sent it to LG US and they told me it's a motherboard.
... Like all other LG phones...
yanleites said:
I really hope it's only battery issue.
Anyway, I had 5X before, and it died while I was on Android 7. I sent it to LG US and they told me it's a motherboard.
... Like all other LG phones...
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Yes in the 5X "the issue" is the motherboard.
Battery is the same after more than a year.
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I alreadyt tried installing the beta and it didn't solve the problem. THe battery could be the issue, I am going to replace mine
I had the sudden shutdown issue on my Nexus 6P alongwith pathetic battery life. Got the battery replaced through Huawei and the phone works as good as new. Around 4.5 hrs SOT instead of around 2 hrs SOT earlier and no more sudden shutdowns.
NishantM said:
I had the sudden shutdown issue on my Nexus 6P alongwith pathetic battery life. Got the battery replaced through Huawei and the phone works as good as new. Around 4.5 hrs SOT instead of around 2 hrs SOT earlier and no more sudden shutdowns.
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This is what I'm hoping after replacing my battery soon. But we are not really sure if Huawei did other changes there.
But we do know that many people changed the battery themselves and worked.
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This is what I'm hoping after replacing my battery soon. But we are not really sure if Huawei did other changes there.
But we do know that many people changed the battery themselves and worked.
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In my case, they didn't do anything else as I categorically told them to just replace the battery and not do anything else like downgrading the OS etc. which they were willing to do.
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In my case, they didn't do anything else as I categorically told them to just replace the battery and not do nothing else like downgrading the OS etc. which they were willing to do.
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Good to know then thanks!
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Hey all,
I'd like to get a better view on how much 6p's are affected by this issue. I really have no clue what % we're talking about. So.. Is your 6p affected by the early shutdown issue? If not, could you tell us when you've bought your phone and, if you have accubattery installed, the capacity (health) of your battery?
Thanks in advance!
Sure am, and it's died at as high as 45% and as low as 15%. Accubattery pegs the health at about 60% and I've only had the phone about 15 months. Wanted this to be the first one I kept for two years.... Not looking likely with my 2 hours of SOT.
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Sure am, and it's died at as high as 45% and as low as 15%. Accubattery pegs the health at about 60% and I've only had the phone about 15 months. Wanted this to be the first one I kept for two years.... Not looking likely with my 2 hours of SOT.
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Yeah this is really bad. Fortunately, I've got a new battery in it thanks to warranty. But now I'm really afraid to use the phone. I'm waiting on a response from Google on all this before using my phone again. I've used it after repair for a couple of days to see if the problem was fixed: it was.
Can't wait for the oneplus 5 to be released.
swa100 said:
Yeah this is really bad. Fortunately, I've got a new battery in it thanks to warranty. But now I'm really afraid to use the phone. I'm waiting on a response from Google on all this before using my phone again. I've used it after repair for a couple of days to see if the problem was fixed: it was.
Can't wait for the oneplus 5 to be released.
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It infuriates me because I love the phone and don't want to buy a new one.... But I can't have something that is going to die on me. I'm pretty pissed off with the state of Google hardware in general right now. Both the 5x and 6P are bootlooping and dying for no discernible reason, the Pixel and 6P have battery issues, although the Pixel, so far at least, doesn't seem to have them nearly as widespread. I feel like my phone is a ticking time bomb and that's really, really not cool.
Plus the supply issues with the Pixel all but rule that out as a replacement anyway.
I've owned three of the last four generations of Nexus phones, and while I was elated with the 6P when I got it, that glow has faded significantly. .
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It infuriates me because I love the phone and don't want to buy a new one.... But I can't have something that is going to die on me. I'm pretty pissed off with the state of Google hardware in general right now. Both the 5x and 6P are bootlooping and dying for no discernible reason, the Pixel and 6P have battery issues, although the Pixel, so far at least, doesn't seem to have them nearly as widespread. I feel like my phone is a ticking time bomb and that's really, really not cool.
Plus the supply issues with the Pixel all but rule that out as a replacement anyway.
I've owned three of the last four generations of Nexus phones, and while I was elated with the 6P when I got it, that glow has faded significantly. .
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Yeah that ticking timebomb feeling is really annoying. I don't even dare to use the phone now it actually works, because I'm afraid that I'll f*ck up my new battery. I'm trying to wait for an official response from Google, but it's hard. I really want to know if some software f*ckup is causing these batteries to degrade faster.
I had the issue also. I bought mine in October 2015. Accubattery was showing the battery at 60% and was shutting down at random once it got below 40%. Google sent me a refurbished phone even though it was out of warranty. So far this one hasn't shut down early and accubattery shows 95%.
I got my phone mid February (Best Buy) last year and do not have the problem. Accubattery shows my battery health at 93% (3220mah). But I also protect my battery as much as possible with when to charge and never let my phone stay plugged in when topped off either.
Never had early shutdown. Had my 6p for a few months. Accubattery shows 99%.
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murphyjasonc said:
I had the issue also. I bought mine in October 2015. Accubattery was showing the battery at 60% and was shutting down at random once it got below 40%. Google sent me a refurbished phone even though it was out of warranty. So far this one hasn't shut down early and accubattery shows 95%.
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Does the battery life itself seem to be better as well? Part of my problem is that with the screen on I'm looking at an obscene drain. According to accubattery my average drain with screen on is 1100ma/h. Hell it dropped two percent in the time it took me to type this.
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Does the battery life itself seem to be better as well? Part of my problem is that with the screen on I'm looking at an obscene drain. According to accubattery my average drain with screen on is 1100ma/h. Hell it dropped two percent in the time it took me to type this.
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Yeah the battery life is a lot better. I was doing good to get 2 hours SOT on my old phone. Same setup on this one is getting 4 to 4.5 hours SOT. I don't recall what my average drain was before but now it's about 450 ma/h. Here is a screenshot.
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Yeah the battery life is a lot better. I was doing good to get 2 hours SOT on my old phone. Same setup on this one is getting 4 to 4.5 hours SOT. I don't recall what my average drain was before but now it's about 450 ma/h. Here is a screenshot.
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I may have to give that a shot then. Buying a new one really isn't in the budget right now. Did you flash back to stock or relock the bootloader before you sent it in?
Never had early shutdown, and have had my 6P since launch.... Mostly custom AOSP roms....
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I may have to give that a shot then. Buying a new one really isn't in the budget right now. Did you flash back to stock or relock the bootloader before you sent it in?
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I'm not sure it was necessary but I flashed back to stock and relocked bootloader. I didn't want to take any chances especially since they were replacing it out of warranty. Worst case I could have used Nexus protect either way. They tried to get me to do that when I called. I refused and once I mentioned the Reddit thread they agreed to replace. Saved me the $79.00 deductible.
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:good::good:We have two in our family and neither one is affected. One was purchased Late 2015 and another early 2016. Both show over 95% capacity in Accubattery (mine is 97%) and I can run the battery down to 1%. Both are stock 7.1.1 one is unlocked and rooted, and the other has never been unlocked. Although I could not vote for each phone, it will be interesting to check poll results a few months down the road.
swa100 said:
Yeah that ticking timebomb feeling is really annoying. I don't even dare to use the phone now it actually works, because I'm afraid that I'll f*ck up my new battery. I'm trying to wait for an official response from Google, but it's hard. I really want to know if some software f*ckup is causing these batteries to degrade faster.
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Google's official position is that the early shutdown problem and boot loop of death are both hardware issues. People are experiencing both problems on stock Marshmallow and Nougat as well as on custom ROMs.
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I'm not sure it was necessary but I flashed back to stock and relocked bootloader. I didn't want to take any chances especially since they were replacing it out of warranty. Worst case I could have used Nexus protect either way. They tried to get me to do that when I called. I refused and once I mentioned the Reddit thread they agreed to replace. Saved me the $79.00 deductible.
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Guess I'm making a call tomorrow then. Hope this straightens things up. Thanks!
Just as an update, I got my RMA last week and it has behaved flawlessly since. Accubattery is actually reporting 101% battery health, and It's taking a little getting used to having a phone that the battery doesn't die in two hours.
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Sure am, and it's died at as high as 45% and as low as 15%. Accubattery pegs the health at about 60% and I've only had the phone about 15 months. Wanted this to be the first one I kept for two years.... Not looking likely with my 2 hours of SOT.
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Same story.. getting a new battery install totally solves this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fCDOfljoQY
It's annoying not to be able to easily swap in a new battery but manufacturers could prefer people feel desperate for a yearly upgrade: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/nexus-6p-battery-replacement-options-t3628932
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Same story.. getting a new battery install totally solves this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fCDOfljoQY
It's annoying not to be able to easily swap in a new battery but manufacturers could prefer people feel desperate for a yearly upgrade: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/nexus-6p-battery-replacement-options-t3628932
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I haven't had an issue since I got my RMAd device, so yeah. I even have all the same apps installed and everything and I'm still getting ten hours of mixed usage. Performance is getting a little pokey but the phone is coming up two years old soooooooooooo I'm not surprised.
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I'm still on the last August build of PureNexus 6.0.1. Mainly because for some reason V4A works and processes everything whereas Nougat won't process SoundCloud, and xposed modules.
Who else is on MM?
I'm still on stock MM September build. I'm dubious to update after reading about the battery issues on Android 7.
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tharweb said:
I'm still on stock MM September build. I'm dubious to update after reading about the battery issues on Android 7.
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Battery issues? What battery issues? I've been on Nougat for almost 3 months with no random shutdowns, unexplained drain, etc. With Google Now on, location on, and all sorts of other battery draining features enabled my phone routinely lasts 18+ hours with 5+ hours of SOT with 20% or more battery left. My 6P is only 3 months old, so my battery is still basically new, unlike most 6P's out there.
The "battery issues" you hear about are hardware faults, not Nougat issues. It's just a coincidence that they started popping up around the same time Nougat was released.
O Nougat since it came out. No problem whatsoever. Keep in mind the people having problem are little to none.
I was on Nougat for months, but I'm back on MTC20L (6.0.1).
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My Marshmallow melted long ago! Luv Nougut and can't wait for Oreo!
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Battery issues? What battery issues? I've been on Nougat for almost 3 months with no random shutdowns, unexplained drain, etc. With Google Now on, location on, and all sorts of other battery draining features enabled my phone routinely lasts 18+ hours with 5+ hours of SOT with 20% or more battery left. My 6P is only 3 months old, so my battery is still basically new, unlike most 6P's out there.
The "battery issues" you hear about are hardware faults, not Nougat issues. It's just a coincidence that they started popping up around the same time Nougat was released.
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What battery issues? I must have made that up then? Hardware fault, maybe. Coincidence that they appeared at the same time as Nougat, maybe.
My 6P is 12 months old next week, so there is a very good chance that I could be susceptible to the "non existent" battery issues with Nougat. Until I'm sure it is safe to upgrade (it was the same with my Nexus 4.,I delayed updgrading due to issues with updates for that) I'll upgrade.
If it ain't broke is my motto...
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Battery issues? What battery issues? I've been on Nougat for almost 3 months with no random shutdowns, unexplained drain, etc. With Google Now on, location on, and all sorts of other battery draining features enabled my phone routinely lasts 18+ hours with 5+ hours of SOT with 20% or more battery left. My 6P is only 3 months old, so my battery is still basically new, unlike most 6P's out there.
The "battery issues" you hear about are hardware faults, not Nougat issues. It's just a coincidence that they started popping up around the same time Nougat was released.
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Just cause you haven't experienced it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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Just cause you haven't experienced it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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Well how can it exist if one doesn't experience it? The issue is the the rom is the easiest thing to blame when there isnt anything else to blame. I'd narrow it down to app + phone usage. Ive had my phone since it came out and the only issue is its non-functional in weather below 0c. Im using N, on AICP w/ Flash kernal and i exceed 4+ SOT on normal usage. With games its down to 2-3 hours depending on how long or intensive the game is.
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If it was a wide spread problem that affected everyone on Nougat, then I should probably be experiencing it.
If you look at the random shutdown/bootloop threads almost everyone affected has had their phones since it came out, which means their batteries are old and worn out. Most of them have reported that replacing the battery/getting a new phone has fixed their issues, which further reinforces my hardware fault argument.
It's easy to blame Google and their software because no one wants to believe that their $500+ phone is defective, but the cold hard truth is it's not Nougat's fault.
This winter my Nexus 6 on Marshmallow started shutting down randomly in the cold, but is that the fault of the software? No. The battery was over 2 years old and had reached the end of its usable life.
I'm on marshmallow because of Xpose. ?
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I'm on marshmallow because of Xpose.
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Me too! :good:
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Battery issues? What battery issues? I've been on Nougat for almost 3 months with no random shutdowns, unexplained drain, etc. With Google Now on, location on, and all sorts of other battery draining features enabled my phone routinely lasts 18+ hours with 5+ hours of SOT with 20% or more battery left. My 6P is only 3 months old, so my battery is still basically new, unlike most 6P's out there.
The "battery issues" you hear about are hardware faults, not Nougat issues. It's just a coincidence that they started popping up around the same time Nougat was released.
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O Nougat since it came out. No problem whatsoever. Keep in mind the people having problem are little to none.
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Little to none? 3 months old? You guys are going to wake up from a nice dream sooner than you think lol give a look at the Google bug tracker. More than 2000 people having issues. You're not immune, believe me
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I'm still on marshmallow solely for xposed. I want so bad to update but refuse to give up my modules!
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I'm about to go back to marshmallow. Tired of playing cat and mouse to get adfree YouTube. Suddenly I have ads again. Miss the good old days with the Xposed module to take care of that problem.
Gonna be weird going back, lol.
Went back to September build since it was the last one. Was never actually on mm before since I started updating to nougat immediately after getting the phone. Curious how Xposed would work on the 6p. Great, I'd have to say. I have the phone exactly how I want it. Changed the dpi to 640. No more squinting. Won't be upgrading unless Xposed is also working.
I'm entertaining the thought of getting a Nexus 6P this 2017. I understand updates will still be that quick and supported by 2018 but I have some questions:
1. Is it true the 6P has some water-resistant powers that it's considered safe to use during light rain or a spill of water or soda?
2. I heard that a "bug" causes the phone to crash or turn off unexpectedly when the battery dips below 10%?
3. Is it also true the wifi and bluetooth can sometimes be erratic?
Need your comments please. Cheers.
I have the 6P Since 20th July..
And non of these issues had with me.
Get the one plus 3.. N6P is too old now
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Gino76ph said:
I'm entertaining the thought of getting a Nexus 6P this 2017. I understand updates will still be that quick and supported by 2018 but I have some questions:
1. Is it true the 6P has some water-resistant powers that it's considered safe to use during light rain or a spill of water or soda?
2. I heard that a "bug" causes the phone to crash or turn off unexpectedly when the battery dips below 10%?
3. Is it also true the wifi and bluetooth can sometimes be erratic?
Need your comments please. Cheers.
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I just sold mine on eBay.. I liked the phone allot but it was just too big for me to carry at work. I never had any problems with mine the entire time I had it.
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No problems since launch. There exceptions for some....
Abdulaziz6p said:
I have the 6P Since 20th July..
And non of these issues had with me.
Get the one plus 3.. N6P is too old now
So, no issues with water damage or phone dying when battery goes under 15%?
I'm reluctant to get a OnePlus phone. I have heard many great things about their phones but company it seems has a poor track record when it comes to Customer Support and after sales service.
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Gino76ph said:
Abdulaziz6p said:
I have the 6P Since 20th July..
And non of these issues had with me.
Get the one plus 3.. N6P is too old now
So, no issues with water damage or phone dying when battery goes under 15%?
I'm reluctant to get a OnePlus phone. I have heard many great things about their phones but company it seems has a poor track record when it comes to Customer Support and after sales service.
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Yes sir. Nothing had on mine
And you're right about OnePlus...
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Gino76ph said:
I'm entertaining the thought of getting a Nexus 6P this 2017. I understand updates will still be that quick and supported by 2018 but I have some questions:
1. Is it true the 6P has some water-resistant powers that it's considered safe to use during light rain or a spill of water or soda?
2. I heard that a "bug" causes the phone to crash or turn off unexpectedly when the battery dips below 10%?
3. Is it also true the wifi and bluetooth can sometimes be erratic?
Need your comments please. Cheers.
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I bought the Nexus6P back in December because it was a great open box deal, and I couldn't be happier.
I've never encountered any of the issues you mentioned at all, and I find it to still be super snappy under normal use, plus the battery is great.
I can't comment on the water-resistance because I try not to allow it to get wet at all; that said, I'm sure you can just youtube people stress testing their poor 6p phones.
I will agree with others here though in saying that it is a bit large - I did want to pixel (not the XL) as it's size is much better, but the price was too high.
So, in 2017 what old flagship would you choose in terms of battery life, overall speed & performance and an excellent camera...a Nexus 6P, OnePlus 3T or Galaxy S7?
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So, in 2017 what old flagship would you choose in terms of battery life, overall speed & performance and an excellent camera...a Nexus 6P, OnePlus 3T or Galaxy S7?
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Nexus 6P, hands down. Mine consistently lasts all day (about 18 hours) with moderate to heavy usage (browsing XDA with Tapatalk, social media, etc), takes amazing pictures, and is very fast/responsive.
I have no experience with the OnePlus 3T, but my mom's Galaxy S7 was awful. It had horrible battery life, ugly software, and performance was very janky. The cameras were pretty good, though.
You can't go wrong with a Nexus phone. The amazing developers here on XDA keep them alive long after Google drops support.
Problem is I'm not into rooting and I only depend on software updates via OTA.
I also heard about the device freezing, radios (such as bluetooth, wifi, etc.) kept playing up and phone dies after only 15% (or below) battery life.
Gino76ph said:
Problem is I'm not into rooting and I only depend on software updates via OTA.
I also heard about the device freezing, radios (such as bluetooth, wifi, etc.) kept playing up and phone dies after only 15% (or below) battery life.
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Even if you're not into rooting, you'll still get OTA updates with the latest security patches/bug fixes months before any other phone. The 6P should be supported up until Android 9.0, so you'd be good for another 14 months or so.
If you do decide to take a walk on the wild side and root after Google drops support, Nexus phones are very easy to unlock, root, and customize.
As for the freezing, I've never experienced this while stock. The only time my device has ever frozen/crashed was due to something stupid I did, like changing the file system, or risky kernel settings.
I don't use Bluetooth, so I can't provide any feedback there, but I can vouch for WiFi being very stable.
The shutdown/battery issues are caused by degraded batteries. There's no avoiding it, batteries are rated for a certain number of charge cycles and wear out over time, but there are things you can do to extend the life of your battery:
1. Don't expose your phone to extreme hot/cold temperatures. Using it in the summer or winter is ok, but don't put it in the freezer to run benchmarks or to keep it cool while installing updates. If you must keep it cool, take it out of its case (if you have one) and place it in front of a fan. I always place my phone in front of a fan when installing a new ROM or anything CPU intensive to keep it cool.
2. Don't use fast charging unless absolutely necessary, such as you're heading out for a hot date in 20 minutes but you only have 15% left. If you're charging your phone overnight, there's no need to use the fast charger. I've been using the 1 amp wall adapter from my Galaxy Nexus to charge my 6P overnight and the battery is just as good as day one with no random shutdowns.
3. Don't play games, install updates, or anything that may cause the phone/battery to heat up while the phone is charging. Browsing the web, listening to music, texting, or other light tasks are fine, but playing Asphalt 8, installing the latest OTA, or whatever while charging will cause your battery to heat up and wear it out faster.
4. Charge the phone while off if possible. The reason for this is when powered on and the battery reaches 100% it stops charging (obviously). When the battery drops to 98% it starts charging again. If you charge overnight with the phone on the 2% drop/recharge will happen multiple times, causing unnecessary charge cycles and wearing out the battery.
5. Try to avoid letting the battery go below 15-20%. Discharging the battery too far too often wears it out faster.
6. If you want to get really anal about this, charge the battery when it reaches 20% and unplug it when it reaches 80%. This counts as only half of a charge cycle, thus extending the life of your battery. There's an app on XDA that stops charging at whatever limit you decide, but I believe it requires root.
I recommend buying your 6P new (if you decide to go with it and if you can find one). When you buy a used phone you have no idea how badly the battery was abused.
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Abdulaziz6p said:
I have the 6P Since 20th July..
And non of these issues had with me.
Get the one plus 3.. N6P is too old now
So, no issues with water damage or phone dying when battery goes under 15%?
I'm reluctant to get a OnePlus phone. I have heard many great things about their phones but company it seems has a poor track record when it comes to Customer Support and after sales service.
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I just sold my OnePlus 3T, it was a great phone, the only thing that disappointed me was the camera. If camera was as good as the 6P I would of kept it for another year. It is very poor in low light and bad focus on the simplest shots. I think the OnePlus 5 will be the phone to look to next for a mid priced beast.
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It's too old and you may fell angry with the hot 810 SOC
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It's too old and you may fell angry with the hot 810 SOC
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It's not too old. I have one and it is better than many phones years newer than it imo. I have no lag or stutters and it never heats up or has any problems. I'd definitely recommend this phone any day as it is just so good for its age.
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It's too old and you may fell angry with the hot 810 SOC
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My 6P doesn't get hot, even when playing CPU/GPU intensive games like Asphalt 8. The 810 has been tamed on the 6P.
The only good thing 6P has going for it is it's front speakers and the camera performance. Android 8/O wont fix it's short battery life, nor its laughable audio and call quality along with the random wifi connection issues...
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The only good thing 6P has going for it is it's front speakers and the camera performance. Android 8/O wont fix it's short battery life, nor its laughable audio and call quality along with the random wifi connection issues...
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Those issues are some most users including myself never have had. Those kind of issues are not device specific either and the battery is actually pretty good for the phones age. The camera is amazing with 4k quality so I don't know what you're smoking and the audio quite actually is pretty decent and doesn't have crackling or tinny sounds. The call quality is actually amazing and very clear even compared to newer phones and my home phone. At times it can be quite but there are mods for that but for general users the audio is good enough. Keep in mind that many issues you may have heard are a small percentage and are usually reports from devices with an old degraded battery and maybe a buggy custom rom. Should I assume you don't have a nexus 6p? Before talking about a phone you don't have try researching about it.
I've been lurking for a few in this part of the forum. I currently own the Nexus 6 and they have reached EOL and was considering a jump to this one. Do you guys recommend it, I'm leery about the bootloop issues and early shut down of the phone but from what I've seen around the forums if you don't have those you guys are pretty happy with the device.
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I've been lurking for a few in this part of the forum. I currently own the Nexus 6 and they have reached EOL and was considering a jump to this one. Do you guys recommend it, I'm leery about the bootloop issues and early shut down of the phone but from what I've seen around the forums if you don't have those you guys are pretty happy with the device.
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It is one of if not the best phones that came out at that time and is a fairly good price. The bootloop issues are not software related but occur when someone's battery degrades due to having it a long time or not taking care of it and how it is charged. Also the development on this phone including roms and kernels etc is some of the best. It is an amazing phone with no lags or bootloop issues and aslong as you aren't an idiot with your charging you shouldn't need to worry about any issues.
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It is one of if not the best phones that came out at that time and is a fairly good price. The bootloop issues are not software related but occur when someone's battery degrades due to having it a long time or not taking care of it and how it is charged. Also the development on this phone including roms and kernels etc is some of the best. It is an amazing phone with no lags or bootloop issues and aslong as you aren't an idiot with your charging you shouldn't need to worry about any issues.
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Plus I get to stick with Beans Roms, nothing against other developers as I'm sure they are good too but I've been a user of Beans roms for quite some time. Thanks, I loved my Nexus 6 but since it's only 32 bit it's time is coming to an end.
I have very high demands when coming to a camera on a mobile and after analyzing the latest mobiles pictures I am as a photographer most impressed with Nexus 6P.
I have found a brand new copy of it for 350 euro.
But what makes me still not sure is the bootloop thing.
1) Does the bootloop problem comes after the phones age, is it caused by worn or is it caused by after an update?
2) I have root a few mobiles and always the camera has got a bit worse after installing CM/LOS/AOSP, is it the same with Nexus 6P? Is the camera best with the stock rom?
3) Are there any other problems with Nexus 6P that is very common?
AFAIK the bootloop is totally random - I have a 6P and never had it, but I was affected by the battery early death.
I'd look for newer phones.
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AFAIK the bootloop is totally random - I have a 6P and never had it, but I was affected by the battery early death.
I'd look for newer phones.
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LG V20 is cheap these days.
Moto Z.
If I didn't have a Nexus 6P, I would not buy one today.
There are too many alternatives.
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AFAIK the bootloop is totally random - I have a 6P and never had it, but I was affected by the battery early death.
I'd look for newer phones.
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LG V20 is cheap these days.
Moto Z.
If I didn't have a Nexus 6P, I would not buy one today.
There are too many alternatives.
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The only two new phones that have better or same camera quality is Pixel and HTC U11, but their way too expensive.
V20 is like all other LG and Samsung camera, to much oversharp and unnatural colors.
There arent too many alternatives if you looking for a camera as good as Nexus 6P and with at least 5,5" display
Brand new? Not refurbished?
If it is actually brand new for 350 euro I would buy it. Yes there are alternatives but not at that price.
Basic stuff:
1) take care of the battery, don't let it go to zero (many of us had our phones replaced due to early battery death)
2) put a decent case on it, screen will crack if you drop it on a corner on a hard surface
I'm on my second 6p and I've not experienced the bootloop issue, but I did get early battery death on the first one.
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Brand new? Not refurbished?
If it is actually brand new for 350 euro I would buy it. Yes there are alternatives but not at that price.
Basic stuff:
1) take care of the battery, don't let it go to zero (many of us had our phones replaced due to early battery death)
2) put a decent case on it, screen will crack if you drop it on a corner on a hard surface
I'm on my second 6p and I've not experienced the bootloop issue, but I did get early battery death on the first one.
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Agreed. No better camera at this price and take care of battery. I have accubattery and battery repair app. After nearly a year, still 96% health. Don't charge over 90% and don't go below 20% if possible.
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AFAIK the bootloop is totally random - I have a 6P and never had it, but I was affected by the battery early death.
I'd look for newer phones.
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LG V20 is cheap these days.
Moto Z.
If I didn't have a Nexus 6P, I would not buy one today.
There are too many alternatives.
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Brand new? Not refurbished?
If it is actually brand new for 350 euro I would buy it. Yes there are alternatives but not at that price.
Basic stuff:
1) take care of the battery, don't let it go to zero (many of us had our phones replaced due to early battery death)
2) put a decent case on it, screen will crack if you drop it on a corner on a hard surface
I'm on my second 6p and I've not experienced the bootloop issue, but I did get early battery death on the first one.
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Brand new
I'd say go for it great phone just recently picked up one and couldn't be happier.
I was wondering the same thing since I'm thinking about dropping Sprint for T-Mobile, but the Bootloop issue that we've all heard about has me extremely worried. Anyone recommending this phone (in the US specifically) in 2017?
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Agreed. No better camera at this price and take care of battery. I have accubattery and battery repair app. After nearly a year, still 96% health. Don't charge over 90% and don't go below 20% if possible.
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What? You're joking? I never heard of any of these issues. Especially the bootloop which I JUST HAD on my LG G4! I got this phone as a replacement by a friend and it got the same issue? That's hilarious.
What's the battery thing? I can't let it go under 20%? That's rather annoying since this phone (as well as my LG G4) doesn't seem to have stellar battery life so I will as a hard user drop under 20% easily in a day. Is it really that serious?
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What? You're joking? I never heard of any of these issues. Especially the bootloop which I JUST HAD on my LG G4! I got this phone as a replacement by a friend and it got the same issue? That's hilarious.
What's the battery thing? I can't let it go under 20%? That's rather annoying since this phone (as well as my LG G4) doesn't seem to have stellar battery life so I will as a hard user drop under 20% easily in a day. Is it really that serious?
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Just telling it as it is. No boot loop and no battery problems.
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Just telling it as it is. No boot loop and no battery problems.
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Oh, I'm not questioning you. Just venting my frustration as well appreciating the humour coming from a device that had the exact same problems, and then got this device as a temporary replacement. Wonder if it's related to the Snapdragon 808/810, those SoC's weren't the best.
Could you tell me anything more about the battery issue? What is it exactly and is it common?
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Oh, I'm not questioning you. Just venting my frustration as well appreciating the humour coming from a device that had the exact same problems, and then got this device as a temporary replacement. Wonder if it's related to the Snapdragon 808/810, those SoC's weren't the best.
Could you tell me anything more about the battery issue? What is it exactly and is it common?
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Well, I've only had the device since October last year and reading about the battery problems others have had on older devices, such as shutting down at 50% has got me a bit concerned. Just following xda charging advice. I've been on nougat, dp4 and now back on last stock marshmallow build because I miss Xposed. Battery life seems better and wakelock isn't showing any apps misbehaving. Just an average user willing to take whatever advice I come across.
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Well, I've only had the device since October last year and reading about the battery problems others have had on older devices, such as shutting down at 50% has got me a bit concerned. Just following xda charging advice. I've been on nougat, dp4 and now back on last stock marshmallow build because I miss Xposed. Battery life seems better and wakelock isn't showing any apps misbehaving. Just an average user willing to take whatever advice I come across.
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Not sure how old this device I got is, but I'd guess at least one year. I'll guess I'll just have to see.
Where can I find the XDA charging advice, or is that just the one you posted, not above 96% and not below 20%. The last one is going to be tough since I suspect this device doesn't have stellar battery life so I'll easily dip below 20% in a day.
Which one is DP4? I'm on CarbonROM now (love the selection of ROMs for this device) because of it's excellent support for MicroG. About to try out Pure Nexus and LineageOS.
Isn't Xposed ready for Nougat now? Although I don't miss Xposed that much anymore after Magisk.
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Not sure how old this device I got is, but I'd guess at least one year. I'll guess I'll just have to see.
Where can I find the XDA charging advice, or is that just the one you posted, not above 96% and not below 20%. The last one is going to be tough since I suspect this device doesn't have stellar battery life so I'll easily dip below 20% in a day.
Which one is DP4? I'm on CarbonROM now (love the selection of ROMs for this device) because of it's excellent support for MicroG. About to try out Pure Nexus and LineageOS.
Isn't Xposed ready for Nougat now? Although I don't miss Xposed that much anymore after Magisk.
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http://www.techadvisor.co.uk/how-to/mobile-phone/how-properly-charge-phone-battery-3619623/
Not above 90%. Once in a while should be alright. Dp4 is the last beta of stock Android o. I usually stick to stock so I don't know much about custom roms. I use ex kernel for color profiles - can't stand stock yellowish tint. Xposed for nougat I tried. Before attempting to install any modules, other apps begin to crash. I don't know how much progress has been made since then but only a few modules work anyway. Only tried magisk to install system wide sound module once before but haven't used it since.
Hello,
So, it's been almost 2 years since I bought the Nexus 6P. I was well aware of the sudden shut down of the phone when the battery is 1 to 25% but I never faced it, until now.
I started facing this issue since the last 3 days.
I was wondering if replacing the battery fixes the issue or not?
Asking because I cannot buy a new phone right now, need to make this one last longer.
Thank you.
Yes it does. I bought this phone used and it had the shutdown issue would shutdown between 1-30% battery. I replaced the battery and it has stopped. But be careful on where you buy your battery because more issues might arise. I bought my replacement battery from Amazon and the issue it has is the phone will shutdown if the volume is all the way up on videos sometimes. Also will restart sometimes when the battery is low and you try using the camera app. It has something to do with the volatages being to much for the non oem battery
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Replacing the battery fixed my shutdowns.
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yes.
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Yes it does. I bought this phone used and it had the shutdown issue would shutdown between 1-30% battery. I replaced the battery and it has stopped. But be careful on where you buy your battery because more issues might arise. I bought my replacement battery from Amazon and the issue it has is the phone will shutdown if the volume is all the way up on videos sometimes. Also will restart sometimes when the battery is low and you try using the camera app. It has something to do with the volatages being to much for the non oem battery
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Replacing the battery fixed my shutdowns.
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Okay, thank you everyone.
Apart from the shut down issue I can see that my battery life had reduced greatly.
When I got the phone, it have me a 5 hour screen on time, now I only get 1 and a half hour screen on time.
So I guess it's time to change the battery anyways.
Well, a little late, but for anyone new reading this thread - a new battery will not fix your issues. I've replaced the battery twice with OEM and it still had the shutdown after a couple months on each battery.
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Well, a little late, but for anyone new reading this thread - a new battery will not fix your issues. I've replaced the battery twice with OEM and it still had the shutdown after a couple months on each battery.
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You meant to say A New replacement battery did not fix your shut down issue..
As for me and many others it fixed our early shut down issue.
The first replacement battery lasted only 2 months and the shut down issue came back.
The second replacement battery is still going strong almost 2 year's sofar.
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You meant to say A New replacement battery did not fix your shut down issue..
As for me and many others it fixed our early shut down issue.
The first replacement battery lasted only 2 months and the shut down issue came back.
The second replacement battery is still going strong almost 2 year's sofar.
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I mean, yeah, the battery replacements did fix the shutdown issues, but they came back after a few months. I'm gonna be tearing the phone down yet again and replacing most parts aside from the motherboard. Going to see if that will fix my issues. I'll go with an Amazon battery this go around to see if it makes anything better.
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I mean, yeah, the battery replacements did fix the shutdown issues, but they came back after a few months. I'm gonna be tearing the phone down yet again and replacing most parts aside from the motherboard. Going to see if that will fix my issues. I'll go with an Amazon battery this go around to see if it makes anything better.
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My first battery replacement only lasted 2 months or so then the early shut down issue came back.
So the second battery replacement from a different seller on Amazon is going almost 2 year's [emoji106]
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