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ok so i have seen a lot of threads about wich phone they should buy next. but none of them had poles. here is a poll to see wich is voted out of all the options above. By all means, you can reply if you wish. so i will leave it up to you to make a decision. thats as modern as it gets
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-wilbso
I'm getting either a Xperia Play or a HTC Sensation XE.
Its a big leap from an X8.
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I'm getting either a Xperia Play or a HTC Sensation XE.
Its a big leap from an X8.
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thanks for the quick reply. select your option in the poll if you can.
Neo or Neo V very nice phone
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Sorry to "crash" the party, but I'd never buy a Sony (Ericsson) ever again.
Why? Simple...
- Lousiest support I've ever seen.
They may release the one or another ROM update for their phones, but, in terms of W/X8, dropping support after just a year with lousy excuses like "oh sorry, Froyo won't run satisfactory on your devices and Gingerbread is well beyond the capabilities" is what I take as "****ing the customer over big time".
- Somewhat solid hardware packed into cheap-ass plastic.
I don't know about you but my major gripe with the X8 has always been the back cover which just crackles/crunches when you hold the phone.
That being said ... I wouldn't opt for something else than a Samsung or Motorola. I'm deeply satisfied with my Galaxy S2. Sturdy design, nice looking and so far a great support from Samsung.
That's of course my opinion, your mileage may vary.
B.Jay said:
Sorry to "crash" the party, but I'd never buy a Sony (Ericsson) ever again.
Why? Simple...
- Lousiest support I've ever seen.
They may release the one or another ROM update for their phones, but, in terms of W/X8, dropping support after just a year with lousy excuses like "oh sorry, Froyo won't run satisfactory on your devices and Gingerbread is well beyond the capabilities" is what I take as "****ing the customer over big time".
- Somewhat solid hardware packed into cheap-ass plastic.
I don't know about you but my major gripe with the X8 has always been the back cover which just crackles/crunches when you hold the phone.
That being said ... I wouldn't opt for something else than a Samsung or Motorola. I'm deeply satisfied with my Galaxy S2. Sturdy design, nice looking and so far a great support from Samsung.
That's of course my opinion, your mileage may vary.
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I agree with you, SE definitely worst support for their smartphones.
But too bad, i love only SE designs phones.
I satisfy with my X8 now, my daily usages are only Opera Mini, calls, whatsapp and text. The phone's performance is ok for me, the only bad thing is the screen is too small.
I will not buy any phone within next 9months, and since my contract is end on Jan 2013 too.
I think i will buy Arc S for next, or similar to USD 250-300 around end of the year.
B.Jay said:
Sorry to "crash" the party, but I'd never buy a Sony (Ericsson) ever again.
Why? Simple...
- Lousiest support I've ever seen.
They may release the one or another ROM update for their phones, but, in terms of W/X8, dropping support after just a year with lousy excuses like "oh sorry, Froyo won't run satisfactory on your devices and Gingerbread is well beyond the capabilities" is what I take as "****ing the customer over big time".
- Somewhat solid hardware packed into cheap-ass plastic.
I don't know about you but my major gripe with the X8 has always been the back cover which just crackles/crunches when you hold the phone.
That being said ... I wouldn't opt for something else than a Samsung or Motorola. I'm deeply satisfied with my Galaxy S2. Sturdy design, nice looking and so far a great support from Samsung.
That's of course my opinion, your mileage may vary.
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Yes. Very good point. They don't really care about their designs etc
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so far, the xperia arc and other are drawing. 6 votes each. interesting
Is this gonna be one of those threads that won't get replied at. Lol. Keep voting
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SE is all about the design of their phones. I seek performance.
Voting for Samsung, HTC and Motorola!
Depending the price and screen size either Mini Pro or Pro if a hardware keyboard is something you want. I realised after I had bought my X8 that it would have been nice with X8 with hardware keyboard and it seems Sony (Ericsson) thought the same thing since they released the Mini Pro
ray or mini form 2011
m also not very satisfied with my xperia x8, but i still love SE ..................eagerly waiting for sony xperia s
i really like motorola droid razr max because its battery lasts longer.. 3300mah!! that would really last longer..but sad its only for verizon huhuhu..it wouldnt work here in the phils.
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could anyone suggested me a phone with a good battery?? anyone??
Maybe the moto defy+, btw seems that motorole has some models with good battery.
I'm satisfied with my x8 too, it was a very cheap purchase, even if locked with a 12 month contract. And I like the clean layout.
But as others have said, YMMV... It's full of mobile phones out there.
Chris95X8 said:
SE is all about the design of their phones. I seek performance.
Voting for Samsung, HTC and Motorola!
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+1.. Maybe the next ICS phone from Moto.
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Maybe the moto defy+, btw seems that motorole has some models with good battery.
I'm satisfied with my x8 too, it was a very cheap purchase, even if locked with a 12 month contract. And I like the clean layout.
But as others have said, YMMV... It's full of mobile phones out there.
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i am planning to save some money to buy a new phone because my x8 is kinda old its almost a year using it..its been almost a year and i am really satisfied with what my x8 has done much for me..i want to buy moto phones because it has good battery
Dear wilbso, I will go for ARC or ARC S in next few months.
Just because of the Design keeping the worst service quality aside. I have voted for ARC also.
dipusen said:
Dear wilbso, I will go for ARC or ARC S in next few months.
Just because of the Design keeping the worst service quality aside. I have voted for ARC also.
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thank you for voting. good choice
The new Xperias look really good, but sadly they aren´t dual-core-phones.
ATM, I need a new PC, so I won´t buy a new phone in the near future.
My contract ends in November, and I think that until then, smartphones with tegra 3 will be available, so my next phone will mist probably be a quad-core phone, maybe a HTC or Samsung.
In the beginning of this topic I like to thank all the people here that helped me and inspired me for the past 6 months and made me love my phone more and use it to the max.
I just got a heartache when I saw the news of jb not coming for our beloved device which is capable unfortunately .sony used their own ways to make the rumors come true .
So I will sell it today I am not a fan of Sony anymore I will buy nexus or s3 or HOX, so goodbye my friends and god bless you all.
Special thanks for :
Aeon
Thilianic
JJdoctor
Pandemic
Jader
Maxio
Besttt
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And many more of you .
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drali500 said:
In the beginning of this topic I like to thank all the people here that helped me and inspired me for the past 6 months and made me love my phone more and use it to the max.
I just got a heartache when I saw the news of jb not coming for our beloved device which is capable unfortunately .sony used their own ways to make the rumors come true .
So I will sell it today I am not a fan of Sony anymore I will buy nexus or s3 or HOX, so goodbye my friends and god bless you all.
Special thanks for :
Aeon
Thilianic
JJdoctor
Pandemic
Jader
Maxio
Besttt
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And many more of you .
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I also expected that atlest arc s will get jb
Lot of us won't buy sony again. I'll stick to samsung or maybe LG Nexus 4. A lot of people ask me for advise when buying a new phone, Sony is banned from now on.
Only Sony if they release acceptable hardware with unlocked bootloader. Probably LG or Nexus for me next year.
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this is what i think
i dont know more about this
but as i have noticed and i have seen as weel
compair to SAMSUNG and LG sony is giving at list 2 updates as well as if you take a close look at UI and hardware design then you will realize that sony is making such nice handset of the level where in samsung LG cant even think
one very true incident
in my family most of people are using sony and you all guys wont believe they all have even not update to ics they has to say that its more then enough
so if you think keeping general customer in hand then they all are satisfied
but you for development crezzy genies like you all guys sony should at list provide 4.1.1 or 5.1 to arc s as that is the most and the last expensive handset by SE(sony ericsson)
here i have just shared my opinion i may b wrong or right but this is what i think
I don't like sony because...
- Screens are not so good imho
- Outdated Hardware
- Crappy build quality just lost my arc while jogging and now its screen is cracked and i can pay 130$ haha Never... I'll buy new phone
- Exmor R actually really sucks compared to Note 2 Camera for example
- Really Slow. My arc on stock ics had 0.00MB free RAM.
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Why I hate Sony:
- Screens are all 100% CRAP! arx Screen has 20% Contrast compared to S3, looks really unsharpen
- Outdated Hardware
- Crappy build quality just lost my arc while jogging and now its screen is cracked and i can pay 130$ haha Never... I'll buy new phone
- Exmor R actually really sucks compared to Note 2 Camera for exsample
- Really Slow. My arc on stock ics had 0.00MB free RAM - than Ultimate HD came LOLz
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- Screens are not crap. And it doesn't look unsharpen because of contrast but because of much lower dots-per-inch density. And, comparing an phone released in january 2011 with one released in may 2012... Really?
- Get yourself an Samsung/Apple device, and let it fall while you're jogging. Let us know the result.
- Exmor R Sucks?
- Yes, the ICS update is quite slow, mostly because of laziness of Sony programmers, not because of crappy hardware.
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- Screens are not crap. And it doesn't look unsharpen because of contrast but because of much lower dots-per-inch density. And, comparing an phone released in january 2011 with one released in may 2012... Really?
- Get yourself an Samsung/Apple device, and let it fall while you're jogging. Let us know the result.
- Exmor R Sucks?
- Yes, the ICS update is quite slow, mostly because of laziness of Sony programmers, not because of crappy hardware.
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1. I said it look unsharpen AND low contrast. I hate sony screens
2. Ok. I dropped my iPod 3 times at same day and no probs at all
3. Yes, very high colored Pixels (dont remeber word)
4. Yeah
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My Mighty WhiteHOX has arrived
Goodbye SONY & welcome HTC
Good luck with white hox!
http://gizmodo.com/5931430/htc-one-x-after-4-months-weird-batteries-and-wimpy-gorrillas
Well about the ppl comparing arc s and samsung galaxy s 3 are u ****ing kiding me? ?? 4 cored phone vs single core ? with around 1 and a half year defferance ?Sony was never really good at developers phones.Sony/sony ericsson was good at making beautiful phones and thats what arc is and now xperia T.In my opinion arc s gives all the productivity the main stream user needs.If u were looking for a developer's phone u should have bought nokia n900 or HTC HD 2 and test whatever software u want.I still have friends that are all new software inthusiasts and they are still using hd 2 with ICS on it.So... pls stop crying about sony not adding more and more updates to there 2011 phones.U cant ever compare arc s to sg s2 because s2 got 2 times the proccesor power and if u bought atnt version it got even more soooo ***** please
I just cant believe all these post.
- Sony has a really nice screen, beatiful real color, not amoled that are just strong shiny fakes color, Only for the blacks are better. And outside with the sunlight i dont have problem with my Arc, except sometimes but trust me, all other phone would have the same problem.
- My Arc fell from my bed or desktop thousand of times and it has only a uncolored edge and some lines behind the cover if u look really closly. My bro dropped his Nexus S once and the glass got broke. Its just luck, but for sure isnt bad our screen.
- The camera is something awesome. A bit buggy? well still 1000 better than my friend's Galaxy Nexus.
- Audio quality and all Media services are fantastic. I love the Walkman, the Album, and Video. Are really well done. Listening music with the earplugs makes me enjoy about my choise and i dont need some stupid iPod or Mp3 player.
- Design, i fell in love with it.
- price/quality of the Arc is perfect.
- ICS yes it was buggy but at least we had it, lot of other mobile didnt even get it and are stuck with Froyo or GB, so u can go back to GB to have a smoothest phone and have their same experience and dont have ICS.
And well the outdated hardware is true, but then if u prefer the last quadcore dont complain about the prices. I payed my arc S same price of how much the Galaxy S was. Glad i choose this. and honestly if i have to pay 150 euro for a ****ty phone with 300MB of ram, 600Mhz a 3Mpx camera and 3.5" screen, or 700/800 euro for a quadcore , 4.7" screen and God knows what other useless feature, i prefer 300 euro for such a good quality.
Next time feel free to buy a useless quadcore (they are smartphone...playing N.O.V.A or FB dont really need a 1.5GHz quadcore) that come with ICS, will get JB and LK and then in the middle of 2013 or beggining of 2014 will be the same story again. Samsung/HTC/LG dont update our phone, they suck, never again.
Only the Ram its the only thing that new phones, and also old one needs.
Im sad like all of u, but they need to sell new phones, they dont gain anything by upgrading. Maybe in a future would be nice if they give us the source, but nowdays people changes phones every 6 months, like people who had bought GSII and some months after the GS III and as soon the GS IV will come out, they will buy it. There are always people who will buy the last product, so they just care about creating new things for new consumers. Sony already updated the ICS series. Buggy? then as i already said go back to GB like most of all other 2011 phones.
+1 For Gogobaba behind me even if Arc S kicks GS II ass. For normal phone usage (is not playing games. We arent iPhone users, we buy SMARTphone not Gambeboy) the dual core doesnt show any difference, maybe 0.5 second faster.
BTW my first phone was a Samsung Omnia II: WM 6.x and Samsung top mobile. 1 weeks after that i bought it,all omnia's owner find it out that we werent going to get WP 7.
Did i said Samsung suck or never again windows? no i just enjoyed my phone.
As above, people moan but they're talking about what is now technologically an old phone....
People grumble about lagging and other trivial things but mine for example, flies! Admittedly through the help of some good developers....those who complain surely haven't had it from release because there are some crazy expectations. If you can't afford a fancy top line handset, At least don't moan about the best your budget can afford. I've had one from release and still now there's not anything on any other phone that I can't live without...
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I ditched Sony when I found out downgrading your arc two versions lower bricks the battery gauge.
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Oh yea and I couldn't unlock my bootloader for some reason, just wouldn't let me from the Sony website.
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I totally agree with you. So many butthurt people =j
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I can't believe people buy Sony phones expecting to get a powerhouse, my sister owns a Xperia Arc and she doesn't even knows she can update to ICS (she doesn't even knows what that is) and she is 100% in love with her phone, the reason why I like and will stick to Sony phones are the following:
-Polished, simple and unique UI (I'm looking at you, TouchWiz and however LG's UI is named).
-Beatiful designs. (Kind of personal here, but I mean, SG2 is just a rectangular phone with a button on the center compared to the NXT series).
-Good camera. (at least on my X10a, MK16a and SK17a).
-Unlike other companies, they prove hardware doesn't means good user experience (check iPhone 4 performance [good] and 2011 Xperia performance on GB [good] and LG Optimus Black performance [ugh])
There may be some more reasons I forgot, but seriously, Xperias are very good offerings all around, that's why my next phone will be either Xperia V or P, I mean: good designs, good prize (at least on Xperia P), good camera and good performance.
Besides, I got Galaxy Note 1 with my new contract on March and I really didn't liked it, screen was pretty nice and camera didn't dissapoint, but performance wasn't as smooth as Samsung was claiming, it also got pretty hot, HELL! when I got out of the store the day I got it, it got so hot I had few blue paint on my hand! ._. I sold it in 1 week and got my Xperia Pro and a Laptop with that money. <.<
I agree that Sony has already done its good job to arc, but I dun agree that it has "finish" their job already.
Here is the fact:
- Arc was launched since 2011 Apr
- 4.1 Jelly Bean Source Code Released to AOSP in 2012 Jul, which is 16 months after Arc was available
- Sony(Ericsson) was a member of the Android Alliance which has promised timely Android OS updates for 18 months after device launch, in Google I/O 2011
Unless Sony gives out a strong reason and proof that the hardware of Arc is the inadequacy for the update, I cannot conclude Sony has delivered its best effort to for Arc/2011series
I think sony still better than samsung as the devices are less brickable hardware-wise.
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I agree that Sony has already done its good job to arc, but I dun agree that it has "finish" their job already.
Here is the fact:
- Arc was launched since 2011 Apr
- 4.1 Jelly Bean Source Code Released to AOSP in 2012 Jul, which is 16 months after Arc was available
- Sony(Ericsson) was a member of the Android Alliance which has promised timely Android OS updates for 18 months after device launch, in Google I/O 2011
Unless Sony gives out a strong reason and proof that the hardware of Arc is the inadequacy for the update, I cannot conclude Sony has delivered its best effort to for Arc/2011series
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Couldn't agree more
But I was expecting JB atleast for Arc S.
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Atleast, Arc S should have been updated, no?
Oh lord and even for the newly released ph we have to wait 4-5 months more, when it was supposed to come with JB. And no new about NXT series. Uff, I dont even like Samsung and HTC, and now only way is "Nexus".
Too bad Sony, you asked for it.
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I think Sony users are very lucky and should be happy with their phones. I had an Arc, absolutely loved it. Jumped ship to an LG Optimus 3D and it doesn't even have ICS yet, much less any talk about JB (screw the Open Handset Alliance). Sony ROMs give one of the cleanest, stock-like experiences unlike almost all the other manufacturers which bundle crap like Touchwiz, Optimus UI, Sense etc, which imo is one of the few reasons why the 2011 Xperia devices are able to run ICS so smoothly. I really don't see why people are already complaining because there isn't any phone running JB that is single core AFAIK, especially when the phone is admittedly rather old.
Am currently watching the HTC One announcement of their new phone. Have to say, looks pretty awesome, seriously considering cancelling my xz order and waiting for the HTC. I have had the HTC One and the HTC One X before, both have awesome screens, and when all the forum posts about the quality, or lack of quality, depending on which post your read, of the xz's screen. Hmmmm, decisions decisions.
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TBH I was thinking the same not long ago but after hearing the new HTC has no memory card slot and only 32gb version. Im not interested atleast 64gb like one x+ would have changed my mind.
R89SONY said:
TBH I was thinking the same not long ago but after hearing the new HTC has no memory card slot and only 32gb version. Im not interested atleast 64gb like one x+ would have changed my mind.
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It comes in 32 and 64 gig options. Need more than 64 gig, get a laptop.
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Am currently watching the HTC One announcement of their new phone. Have to say, looks pretty awesome, seriously considering cancelling my xz order and waiting for the HTC. I have had the HTC One and the HTC One X before, both have awesome screens, and when all the forum posts about the quality, or lack of quality, depending on which post your read, of the xz's screen. Hmmmm, decisions decisions.
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It looks much better than the xperia Z, its amazing.
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you re canceling xperia Z now in two months you ll cancel HTC and order next top phone to get out and in two months you ll cancel that one and the story continues
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TBH I was thinking the same not long ago but after hearing the new HTC has no memory card slot and only 32gb version. Im not interested atleast 64gb like one x+ would have changed my mind.
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I'm sticking me the XZ, yes the HTC One looks nice etc but I change is due for me, this year will be the year for Sony I believe!
Sony z Pros
Better looking (i think)
Water/dust proof (not really something I need)
SD-card
Better dev support
less customized version of android, so possible faster roll out of new versions
HTC One pros
Newer SOC / faster/ less power
Better Screen
More internal memory
probably better speakers (not that i care)
infrared (not that i care)
As for the camera we don't know which will be better, and I don't really care as in the end all camera phones are rubbish
I'm not sure what to do, but looking at the hardware spec list the HTC is the one to get
looking at the software and design I favor the Z
Darn why could HTC just make a ****y phone
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The presentation veld a bit like a teenage phone, that is holding me back as well
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Sony z Pros
Better looking (i think)
Water/dust proof (not really something I need)
SD-card
Better dev support
less customized version of android, so possible faster roll out of new versions
HTC One pros
Newer SOC / faster/ less power
Better Screen
More internal memory
probably better speakers (not that i care)
infrared (not that i care)
As for the camera we don't know which will be better, and I don't really care as in the end all camera phones are rubbish
I'm not sure what to do, but looking at the hardware spec list the HTC is the one to get
looking at the software and design I favor the Z
Darn why could HTC just make a ****y phone
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I'm sorry but the HTC One looks better than the XZ. And better Dev support on the Sony? Please.
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I will see how much the 64gb is on contract.
barondebxl said:
I'm sorry but the HTC One looks better than the XZ. And better Dev support on the Sony? Please.
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Like I said, to me it looks better, no sense in arguing about taste
HTC is famous for being late with the release of kernel source and when they do it is often in a non compilable state, Sony is quicker and better in this respect .
Saying things like "please" isn't an argument.
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Like I said, to me it looks better, no sense in arguing about taste
HTC is famous for being late with the release of kernel source and when they do it is often in a non compilable state, Sony is quicker and better in this respect .
Saying things like "please" isn't an argument.
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It looks better to you is cool but to say sony will roll out updates sooner and better Dev support is funny.
HTC has a large Dev community, LARGE. Mike 1986 is a known HTC guy, and we all know him. And its just one guy that I'm mentioning. This argument about release of kernel source is what you sony guys keep talking about, yet all previous Sony devices aren't relevant today.
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exactly!!! not quite happy with HTC dev support
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It comes in 32 and 64 gig options. Need more than 64 gig, get a laptop.
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There is no such thing as too much space in a multimedia capable device.
To OP: I can't believe you think that anyone cares.
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There is no such thing as too much space in a multimedia capable device.
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Who said too much space? If you cant live with 64 gig then get a laptop with 320 gig or an external hard drive and use Skype to make calls.
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HTC One is a stunning device.
#1 device of 2013.
Sonys Z is suddenly last years tech already lol. Huge failure.
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It looks better to you is cool but to say sony will roll out updates sooner and better Dev support is funny.
HTC has a large Dev community, LARGE. Mike 1986 is a known HTC guy, and we all know him. And its just one guy that I'm mentioning. This argument about release of kernel source is what you sony guys keep talking about, yet all previous Sony devices aren't relevant today.
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I guess it is where you after for most post xperia X10 devices you can get nightlies from CM. and the free xperia guys are doing excellent work to make that happen. You are able to get Android 4.2 on your arc (early 2011) possibly older devices as well, but I don't know as I don't have one. If you count the number of cooked roms it might be less than the one x but that doesn't say anything
Ok finally made my decision! HTC One great!!!!!!!! Non removeable battery? Ok rejected! Sticking with Xperia ZL now once and for all!
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HTC One is a stunning device.
#1 device of 2013.
Sonys Z is suddenly last years tech already lol. Huge failure.
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once again to late to the party
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I guess it is where you after for most post xperia X10 devices you can get nightlies from CM. and the free xperia guys are doing excellent work. You are able to get Android 4.2 on your arc (early 2011) possibly older devices as well, but I don't know as I don't have one. If you count the number of cooked roms it might be less than the one x but that doesn't say anything
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That doesn't say anything?? Really? I call it larger Dev support.
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HTC One is a stunning device.
#1 device of 2013.
Sonys Z is suddenly last years tech already lol. Huge failure.
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There is always something better around the corner. I wasn't expecting the Xperia Z to stay on top anyway.
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I guess it is where you after for most post xperia X10 devices you can get nightlies from CM. and the free xperia guys are doing excellent work to make that happen. You are able to get Android 4.2 on your arc (early 2011) possibly older devices as well, but I don't know as I don't have one. If you count the number of cooked roms it might be less than the one x but that doesn't say anything
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Yes, but many HTC Devices have jellybean too. My DHD has jellybean and it is a 3 year old device.
PLUS the Chinese HTC Scene is huge.
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once again to late to the party
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Unfortunately, and by all accounts the M7 leaves the Z far behind. A superior screen, Camera, Sound Quality and Loudness, not to mention build quality.
I don't see why anyone would purchase a Sony handset unless they are a fanboy, in which case it would be pointless arguing with an irrational person.
So apparently the Zs are dead replaced by the newly announced Xperia X series.
There were 3 X models, none smaller than 5". Does that mean there will be no "compact" models anymore or for at least some time?
I think I'm done with Sony. Their decision making is a train wreck.
They can give is new devices with 4,6" or 4,7" devices.
Think about the performance which the compact devices have. No compact device from another manufacturer has nearly the same performance than their big brothers as from Sony!
I bought my z5c 3 days ago and i had changed from a z1c, and I didn't realize the different performance. The only change i realized is the fingerprinting sensor.
So what you want from a real compact device?
I did understand, that the X-series is "mid-to-high-end", whereas the Z will stay the "high-end" series.
(I think, the X-series does not make sense, too many devices... - just make the Z-series little cheaper ).
I'm sure they'll revisit in few years when Apple makes few more billion on the updated 5S and Sony slumps down further.
I'm by no means an Apple supporter but they seem to be the only ones that have any understanding what the market wants and how to make money...
I was telling myself I should have not bought the Z5 Compact and waited for X Performance instead, then I saw the expected price and I think Z5 Compact was a very good choice.
I really don't understand Sony's strategy at all now. Announcing new phones that won't be out for months is going to royally duck up the Z5 sales. No compact models, no phablet models. What is this X series supposed to be? Is Z6 coming at all? So many questions.
Also where's my Marshmallow? (but that's a whole other thread)
You'll have to wait more months to know this.
The XA is 5" but, based on the width, is nearly compact.
I think that Sony will launch a replacement for the Z5C at the end of the year.
Compact (one-handed) mid/hi-end phones are getting "a bit" popular. Apple is trying to launch a smaller phone (I know a lot of people who still use the small iPhone and consider the 4.7" iPhone 6/6S big). I think that Google realized that many customers didn't like the size jump from 5 to 5X. (And I didn't like the jump from GNexus or Moto X to Nexus 5 in size), so maybe we'll have some small Nexus alternatives, who knows..
In Japan, smaller phone is very demanding that's why Sony making compact and you guys will see next model again in future no worry. Z1c and Z3c even beat the sales of IP5s in Japan.
Sony has stated that z serieswas phase from sony ericsson to Sony. Now x series is their new series that will be their top line.
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I really don't understand Sony's strategy at all now. Announcing new phones that won't be out for months is going to royally duck up the Z5 sales. No compact models, no phablet models. What is this X series supposed to be? Is Z6 coming at all? So many questions.
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There will be no Z6
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony...ew-X-series-will-replace-the-Z-series_id78726
Let us all join in a moment of silence
Well I guess that just makes our z5c that extra bit special
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You'll have to wait more months to know this.
The XA is 5" but, based on the width, is nearly compact.
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But the Xperia XA is based on the budget Mediatek P10 SOC. Unless they put a high-end SOC in a compact phone I wouldn't consider it an alternative to the Z compact-series!
I hope they have something else coming. Otherwise I guess I'll have to stick with my current phone for a while longer than planned.
Sony fooled me once with the Xperia S and now with the Z5C (that I have kept in a box waiting for the FW update). They will never fool me again, that's for sure.
What was wrong with the XPERIA S? I LOVED that phone. Camera was a bit naff but everything was good. I especially liked the transparent LED strip at the bottom.
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What was wrong with the XPERIA S? I LOVED that phone. Camera was a bit naff but everything was good. I especially liked the transparent LED strip at the bottom.
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As you said, the camera, and the lack of updates, same as for the Z5C.
Was a smidgen close to buying the z5c again after trying and not liking the 5x. Glad I didn't. Support will be dead imo. I'm going for the new iphone se. Only new small high end phone incoming. I know most here don't care but it is rumoured to have the a9/m9 processors, hopefully 2gb ram, 12mp Camara, touch Id ect. Basically a high end 4 incher. Been using my son's old iphone 5 for the last couple weeks and I'm kind of loving it. Yeah I know, you'd never go to Apple no matter what. Ha well if Sony had their crap together, I wouldn't have been persuaded by another manufacturer.
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What was wrong with the XPERIA S? I LOVED that phone. Camera was a bit naff but everything was good. I especially liked the transparent LED strip at the bottom.
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I was a XS white user and that one no doubt more beautiful than my Z5c... lol
@weasel is right. Sony was the best manufacturer that prided performance in the compact lineup vs offering us a Mini. This has changed due to lack of sales cause they don't believe in lining pockets of reviews some 3 yrs ago to win the market and bait clicks on every Sony news. They pass HUGE dollars to bolster security leak and paid employees that sued them due to that security leak.
Their ensuring manufacturing costs don't explode with the higher US dollar which also affects profits in Europe and the UK!! Look at current currency exchange rates then tarrifs this hurts profits!
Sony is on a path to offer a sort of luxury lineup at the mid range with acceptable performance without heavy R&D which translates into more profits from revenues to fund a better Z series replacement at the high end luxury scale. Sony can test the waters with the X series (which is NOT the first time this existed, recall the X1 that was a beauty but built by HTC) this allows the Z lineup to continue selling, while they stop manufacturing in early May, empty out the distribution channels and complete revenues for that target market I'm happy to buy 2 Xperia Z5C's to hold me back until a real luxury compact suits my needs from Sony. Then the X lineup is introduced, if it fails no major cost to Sony. If it takes they may be able to release a new series with a name not a letter. Sony is running out of letters X is now repeated in 5yrs, M, S, Z, T, U, not much left that doesn't sound weird.
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"I did understand, that the X-series is "mid-to-high-end", whereas the Z will stay the "high-end" series.
(I think, the X-series does not make sense, too many devices... - just make the Z-series little cheaper  )." the Z series will have a price cut soon. But that's retail look for cheaper quality enjoyed Z's to keep you running. MARSHMALLOW DELAY is annoying BUT I'd rather NOT have Android Memory sharing like LG did with the G5!! I paid for my MicroSD I own it not Android! So don't for it on anyone. Samsung learner this with the SGS7 so I'm inclined to think Sony will too.
@josie I seem to recall the Xperia S had a few updates to Kitkat thus well supported. Not sure about camera woes though you may need to elaborate in full.
Sony already gave a statement saying the Z line is no more. I think it's a REALLY terrible idea, but they know better I guess.
It's possible they maybe working on something better b
I have got xperia sp as my first android phone,it gave a lot of memories,a connection to my old friends via whatsapp or the smooth android with a huge 1gb memory,i bought it in 2013, but sadly it has worn out,i have currently flashed android 6 and planning to upgrade to android 7.
The dualshock 3 pairing is most crucial aspect of this phone,in its essence this phone was a legend.
I will ask you guys this,
What should i buy next,
iPhone 6s/7 or a new android phone?
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I think you should buy an Android phone.
Xperia XZ - Xperia X Compact my suggestions.
Whatever works best for you?
I, for example, tried a few phones and decided after it which one would be my next phone. I advice you to do the same: try a few ones and choose the one that works best for you.
I dont want iphone to show off or something,i just want to use it as well..ios..so it is an option otherwise i am thinking google pixel...has anyone used it??
So, what's your budget? Around $650 or something?
And are you play any games on phone?
I'd say get a Xperia X Compact, if it fits on your hands. (Same screen size, but different body dimension, when it hold my hand it feels much better than Z3 Compact, yep i've checked at phone shop.)
[Off Topic] I still using Xperia SP, Because i'm waiting releasing the Snapdragon 830 and 835 (somewhere in future 2018 Q1)
If they're asking to me "Why waiting for new snapdragon? get it buy the Google Pixel, damn!"
But, the reason is, it would waste of money, what they're gimmick like fetaures, hardware, camera. (The most important strongest chipset it means you get good FPS in newer games, Virtual Reality cool stuff, 10nm node on chip Snapdragon, emulator if could get work like NFS Carbon, Zelda Wind Walker etc. *blah blah too much stuff if you wouldn't want to hear*)
Wait there's more, Otherwise if you don't have enough money then next year it will price cut cost, you could get steal money.
Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro
OnePlus 3T
OnePlus 3T vs iPhone 7 Plus Speed/Multitasking/Heat Test!
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OnePlus 3T
OnePlus 3T vs iPhone 7 Plus Speed/Multitasking/Heat Test!
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This video is funny as hell. Comparing the specs, it blows my mind how freaking slow android is. I mean, the One Plus 3T has like 3 times more RAM than the iPhone 7 Plus, and when it "beats" it the difference is like a few seconds at most. Of course, the A10 Fusion is a freaking beast and IOS optimization is incredible, but still.
xperia x performance would be awesome.
A bit late?
I might be a bit late to this post but all I have got to say is that Sony have changed a lot, their devices used to be really nice and the software was great back in the pre-2014 days, but since then I think Sony has gone downhill, none of the devices even appeal to me anymore. Like the other guy said, don't limit yourself to Sony and go for something different-whatever is right for you. In my opinion LG is very nice-their devices appeal to me a lot.
My budget is around 600-650$
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My budget is around 600-650$
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You still haven't got a new phone? If so then you might as well wait for MWC 2017, end of Feb. There will be plenty of announcements including Nokia who may announce several phones. :victory:
Even if there isn't anything good announced, prices of current devices may be driven down so then you could jump in and get a good bargain.
That is why i am waiting for mwc,nokia android phone and many more are on their way.
Btw galaxy s8 might be announced in mwc 2017 next month
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My budget is around 600-650$
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I really loved the SP. I bought a Z3 Compact to replace it but it's slightly smaller than the SP and never felt right and then I broke it :crying:
When I read about the Edge Mod for the Moto Z I immediately backed it and bought a Moto Z Play.
So far I like everything but the camera on it. It has a great battery too.
My carrier had it on sale for half price so I ended up paying around $460 CAN with the Edge mod.