Am currently watching the HTC One announcement of their new phone. Have to say, looks pretty awesome, seriously considering cancelling my xz order and waiting for the HTC. I have had the HTC One and the HTC One X before, both have awesome screens, and when all the forum posts about the quality, or lack of quality, depending on which post your read, of the xz's screen. Hmmmm, decisions decisions.
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TBH I was thinking the same not long ago but after hearing the new HTC has no memory card slot and only 32gb version. Im not interested atleast 64gb like one x+ would have changed my mind.
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TBH I was thinking the same not long ago but after hearing the new HTC has no memory card slot and only 32gb version. Im not interested atleast 64gb like one x+ would have changed my mind.
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It comes in 32 and 64 gig options. Need more than 64 gig, get a laptop.
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Am currently watching the HTC One announcement of their new phone. Have to say, looks pretty awesome, seriously considering cancelling my xz order and waiting for the HTC. I have had the HTC One and the HTC One X before, both have awesome screens, and when all the forum posts about the quality, or lack of quality, depending on which post your read, of the xz's screen. Hmmmm, decisions decisions.
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It looks much better than the xperia Z, its amazing.
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you re canceling xperia Z now in two months you ll cancel HTC and order next top phone to get out and in two months you ll cancel that one and the story continues
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TBH I was thinking the same not long ago but after hearing the new HTC has no memory card slot and only 32gb version. Im not interested atleast 64gb like one x+ would have changed my mind.
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I'm sticking me the XZ, yes the HTC One looks nice etc but I change is due for me, this year will be the year for Sony I believe!
Sony z Pros
Better looking (i think)
Water/dust proof (not really something I need)
SD-card
Better dev support
less customized version of android, so possible faster roll out of new versions
HTC One pros
Newer SOC / faster/ less power
Better Screen
More internal memory
probably better speakers (not that i care)
infrared (not that i care)
As for the camera we don't know which will be better, and I don't really care as in the end all camera phones are rubbish
I'm not sure what to do, but looking at the hardware spec list the HTC is the one to get
looking at the software and design I favor the Z
Darn why could HTC just make a ****y phone
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The presentation veld a bit like a teenage phone, that is holding me back as well
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Sony z Pros
Better looking (i think)
Water/dust proof (not really something I need)
SD-card
Better dev support
less customized version of android, so possible faster roll out of new versions
HTC One pros
Newer SOC / faster/ less power
Better Screen
More internal memory
probably better speakers (not that i care)
infrared (not that i care)
As for the camera we don't know which will be better, and I don't really care as in the end all camera phones are rubbish
I'm not sure what to do, but looking at the hardware spec list the HTC is the one to get
looking at the software and design I favor the Z
Darn why could HTC just make a ****y phone
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I'm sorry but the HTC One looks better than the XZ. And better Dev support on the Sony? Please.
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I will see how much the 64gb is on contract.
barondebxl said:
I'm sorry but the HTC One looks better than the XZ. And better Dev support on the Sony? Please.
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Like I said, to me it looks better, no sense in arguing about taste
HTC is famous for being late with the release of kernel source and when they do it is often in a non compilable state, Sony is quicker and better in this respect .
Saying things like "please" isn't an argument.
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Like I said, to me it looks better, no sense in arguing about taste
HTC is famous for being late with the release of kernel source and when they do it is often in a non compilable state, Sony is quicker and better in this respect .
Saying things like "please" isn't an argument.
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It looks better to you is cool but to say sony will roll out updates sooner and better Dev support is funny.
HTC has a large Dev community, LARGE. Mike 1986 is a known HTC guy, and we all know him. And its just one guy that I'm mentioning. This argument about release of kernel source is what you sony guys keep talking about, yet all previous Sony devices aren't relevant today.
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exactly!!! not quite happy with HTC dev support
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It comes in 32 and 64 gig options. Need more than 64 gig, get a laptop.
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There is no such thing as too much space in a multimedia capable device.
To OP: I can't believe you think that anyone cares.
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There is no such thing as too much space in a multimedia capable device.
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Who said too much space? If you cant live with 64 gig then get a laptop with 320 gig or an external hard drive and use Skype to make calls.
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HTC One is a stunning device.
#1 device of 2013.
Sonys Z is suddenly last years tech already lol. Huge failure.
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It looks better to you is cool but to say sony will roll out updates sooner and better Dev support is funny.
HTC has a large Dev community, LARGE. Mike 1986 is a known HTC guy, and we all know him. And its just one guy that I'm mentioning. This argument about release of kernel source is what you sony guys keep talking about, yet all previous Sony devices aren't relevant today.
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I guess it is where you after for most post xperia X10 devices you can get nightlies from CM. and the free xperia guys are doing excellent work to make that happen. You are able to get Android 4.2 on your arc (early 2011) possibly older devices as well, but I don't know as I don't have one. If you count the number of cooked roms it might be less than the one x but that doesn't say anything
Ok finally made my decision! HTC One great!!!!!!!! Non removeable battery? Ok rejected! Sticking with Xperia ZL now once and for all!
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HTC One is a stunning device.
#1 device of 2013.
Sonys Z is suddenly last years tech already lol. Huge failure.
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once again to late to the party
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I guess it is where you after for most post xperia X10 devices you can get nightlies from CM. and the free xperia guys are doing excellent work. You are able to get Android 4.2 on your arc (early 2011) possibly older devices as well, but I don't know as I don't have one. If you count the number of cooked roms it might be less than the one x but that doesn't say anything
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That doesn't say anything?? Really? I call it larger Dev support.
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HTC One is a stunning device.
#1 device of 2013.
Sonys Z is suddenly last years tech already lol. Huge failure.
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There is always something better around the corner. I wasn't expecting the Xperia Z to stay on top anyway.
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I guess it is where you after for most post xperia X10 devices you can get nightlies from CM. and the free xperia guys are doing excellent work to make that happen. You are able to get Android 4.2 on your arc (early 2011) possibly older devices as well, but I don't know as I don't have one. If you count the number of cooked roms it might be less than the one x but that doesn't say anything
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Yes, but many HTC Devices have jellybean too. My DHD has jellybean and it is a 3 year old device.
PLUS the Chinese HTC Scene is huge.
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Unfortunately, and by all accounts the M7 leaves the Z far behind. A superior screen, Camera, Sound Quality and Loudness, not to mention build quality.
I don't see why anyone would purchase a Sony handset unless they are a fanboy, in which case it would be pointless arguing with an irrational person.
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I sent my captivate today for return to Rogers and waiting April 14 for nexus s or 18-21st for arc. But can't decide which one. What you guys think? And why?
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Go for nexus s. As Sony sucks with updates and you will get update first with NS since its a Google phone
Arc for ant +.
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I say Arc cuz I think it looks better an ha better specs plus Sony said they knkow how important and are growing hence gingerbread on arc
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i think arc is better too...
-nexus s is the most bad phone i have ever seen!!
-arc is more beautiful!
-arc has better camera!!(censor is using by sony's professional digital cameras!
and the guy said buy nexus,he is one of those who bought x10 and is upset and disappointed because of it's update!!
Arc kicks ass I believe, getting mine tomorrow.
SE is more serious now about updates I think, and Arc is very well equipped.
Hi - You don't need to worry about SE updating the Arc... it will happen.. I have been "enroled" into a SE UK Elite Testlab and met with the MD of SE UK last week.. they are totally committed to getting this right and fully appreciate how important it is to keep the Android versions upto date for a reasonable length of time.. as well as more minor UI upgrades in between..
Arc any day of the week and twice on Sundays!
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So only thing arc has *its beautiful* and better camera? That's it? Lol
I bet Sony Ericsson did same stuff like before like x10 where you plug 3rd party earbuds with mic and they wont work. So you have to buy their crappy earbuds
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Hi - You don't need to worry about SE updating the Arc... it will happen.. I have been "enroled" into a SE UK Elite Testlab and met with the MD of SE UK last week.. they are totally committed to getting this right and fully appreciate how important it is to keep the Android versions upto date for a reasonable length of time.. as well as more minor UI upgrades in between..
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I would like to add an example to that,
R800i ( Xperia Play ) was released in UK between 31/3 and 1st/4...
three days later, they already made an update on the air to fix a minor bug...
Now if you don't consider that keeping you updated and as a great support then I'm not sure what will be
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So only thing arc has *its beautiful* and better camera? That's it? Lol
I bet Sony Ericsson did same stuff like before like x10 where you plug 3rd party earbuds with mic and they wont work. So you have to buy their crappy earbuds
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I just laugh at you're posts
really... what are you doing here anyway? spamming with your useless comments will do no good
I have used the Nexus S and now have the Arc...
Arc is so much better... Looks stunning too
I have to admit that I always consider getting the Nexus S but they never had it on 850 3G till recently and they have it white too and I was investigating. reason is that Google makes the android and S is a Google phone therefore you get updates on time(supposedly) but then I always find myself going back to SE.
It would be nice if you could review a comparison with two phones little details as I can see the specs on website.
Only thing pisses me off right now @ this moment is that no one carries arc in the US and even if they do, it would be ATT with the crappy service and its not available yet.
NA sucks in terms of getting new technologies on time.
Rogers is getting nexus s on 14th and also arc on 14-21st.
Arc is 549$ with no contract. Promo is 99$ on 3 year agreement after that $399 on 3 year contract WOW
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I have to admit that I always consider getting the Nexus S but they never had it on 850 3G till recently and they have it white too and I was investigating. reason is that Google makes the android and S is a Google phone therefore you get updates on time(supposedly) but then I always find myself going back to SE.
It would be nice if you could review a comparison with two phones little details as I can see the specs on website.
Only thing pisses me off right now @ this moment is that no one carries arc in the US and even if they do, it would be ATT with the crappy service and its not available yet.
NA sucks in terms of getting new technologies on time.
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Arc is 549$ with no contract.
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Is that price official? I didn't see them actually selling it yet for out of contract?
Yep its official 100% also confirm on phone. Here is also a link http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/04/04/complete-pricing-revealed-for-the-rogers-xperia-play-and-arc/
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Is that price official? I didn't see them actually selling it yet for out of contract?
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So with that being said, we should be having some signs of arc on ebay and other re-sellers for UMTS 850 in next couple of weeks.
Between the Arc and the Nexus S...
I say this grudgingly... get the Arc. Samsung Phones have GREAT hardware... but I never liked the galaxy S' build quality.
Between the Arc and the Desire HD? Desire HD ALL THE WAY.
Desire HD has Noise Cancellation + better build quality + SLCD Screen
Maedhros said:
Between the Arc and the Nexus S...
I say this grudgingly... get the Arc. Samsung Phones have GREAT hardware... but I never liked the galaxy S' build quality.
Between the Arc and the Desire HD? Desire HD ALL THE WAY.
Desire HD has Noise Cancellation + better build quality + SLCD Screen
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hmmm, Noise Cancellation is available with Arc, so I'd say Better build quality + SLCD screen
Wow dont even think about Desire HD - its awsome to play around with custom roms and the build quality is good (even dough the plastik covers on the back tend to make a noise every time i grab the phone) BUT
Desire HD
- Camera sucks big time!! No comparison to arc !
- its to heavy ( dont try to hold it over your head while reading in bed)
- screen on DHD is so washed out compared to arc its really like greyish in comparison
On Desire HD there are always about 20% cpu usage due to al the sense modifications
And here we come to the worst part - battery is just bad (and I had every custom rom and kernel that is available on my DHD)
I got trough the day but with nothing left while with the arc even the first day finished with 45% left
Sorry but I had to get that one out couse DHD is really nice for winter time when I was always able to charge it but now in spring when your on the go its just not enough battery.
Go for the arc its even cheaper where I live (germany)
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Hey guys!
I'm planning to buy a new phone in 2 weeks ..
I'm confused between these two .. Xperia Arc S and Sensation XL ..
Any recommendations or guidance from the users of these phones
What i like about the XL :
Massive 4.7" screen
Easier to touch-type
Beats audio
What i like about the Arc S :
Sharper screen (233 ppi) despite the small size (4.3"), comparing to the XL's 4.7" and (199 ppi)
The cool looks !
The upcoming official ICS will look great on the that phone
Both processors are fast .. 1.4 and 1.5
Taking into account that I lOVE the new ICS look and i'd love to have it on my next phone .. While i can only have it on the Arc S because of CM support .. And i don't know how to get that look on the Sensation XL because of the lack of suport and the too little ROMs availablity
By what you said, get Arc S, or wait a little more for Xperia S. Both will get ICS until june. Arc S is going to get stable CM9 soon, and I'm sure there will be some guys from FreeXperiaTeam (who work with CM in 2011 Xperia devices) working ASAP on Xperia S.
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You ask that question in an Xperia Arc forum? Are you dumb or something?
i had just pick up an arc a month ago..i just take it primarily because of it good looks other than that sony promise of official ice cream samndwish and a remote chance that the arc get Playstation store outside of japan..
but i don't see if both arc and sensation gonna be relevent by the 3rq quarters of this year.as i change phone every year, the arc fits the time frame..but if u wanna kept your phone lots longer, get a dual core
I'd say Arc S
Has a micro sd slot which the XL doesn't have.
If the XL had dualcore I'd go with that but it hasn't and 100Mhz are no difference.
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+1 to arcS... HTC is too expancive... What are you paying for? Half of inch? Wright question is arcS or Sensation XE... Dual core, great display, Beats Audio... And looks great to. I would prefer SE because I am a BIG fan of it... And you can go to the store, take both of them in yor hands and decide...
Seems like the Arc S is a winner for me. The charisma and charm of this phone is irresistible. However, I'm considering the upcoming Xperia S too .. Just Hoping it won't be too expensive
this HTC comes with a internal 16G memory and 768 MB ram - these are more critical factors for performance. correct me if i am wrong?
Ok, RAM is a big plus.
But for me the 16GB non-expandable memory (?) are too less, so no-go. I have ~23GB on my phone.
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Arc S - easy choice for me.. the Sensation XL is a big ugly brick!.. or if you want to wait till end of March - Xperia S - I'd wait!
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Arc S - easy choice for me.. the Sensation XL is a big ugly brick!.. or if you want to wait till end of March - Xperia S - I'd wait!
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That's exactly what I'm planning for
Go for galaxy s2
Its the best!(till now)
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Go for galaxy s2
Its the best!(till now)
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Yes, till now. But after Sony XPERIA S comes out... I don't think so!
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Yes, till now. But after Sony XPERIA S comes out... I don't think so!
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I read somewhere, and it has been an "aaaaah yeah..." moment for me,
that we shouldn't compare SE phones with Samsung and HTC phones.
They are not at all about the hardware or the Android version.
They fill in the gap between the people who are hardcore users and spec enthusiasts and those who have no idea about smartphones.
They are targetting people who are OK with having a really beautiful phone, advanced camera function and good hardware, not necessarily top-of-the-top.
And even though XDA forums are normally not a place for such people, you can't deny the very existense of such target group.
Seeing it like this, you can understand why they haven't joined the hardware race that Samsung and HTC are running atm.
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Yes, till now. But after Sony XPERIA S comes out... I don't think so!
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Yes until the gs3 comes out then once again samsung goes back on top
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iridaki said:
I read somewhere, and it has been an "aaaaah yeah..." moment for me,
that we shouldn't compare SE phones with Samsung and HTC phones.
They are not at all about the hardware or the Android version.
They fill in the gap between the people who are hardcore users and spec enthusiasts and those who have no idea about smartphones.
They are targetting people who are OK with having a really beautiful phone, advanced camera function and good hardware, not necessarily top-of-the-top.
And even though XDA forums are normally not a place for such people, you can't deny the very existense of such target group.
Seeing it like this, you can understand why they haven't joined the hardware race that Samsung and HTC are running atm.
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Thumbs up, dude
I'd wait for the new line. but if you're in haste i'd take Arc S or Galaxy Note depending on the price ofcourse.
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I'd wait for the new line. but if you're in haste i'd take Arc S or Galaxy Note depending on the price ofcourse.
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I was tempted by Note because of it's size and power etc. as I could eventually get one for free,
but this device is NOT impressive.
The screen - again - looks like oversaturated **** and the UI is actually disgusting.
I quit after 5 minutes of playing with it.
BTW the performance when just fiddling with it was actually mediocre.
Xperia S is worth wait, as far I have seen after AOSP Sony has one of the best UI and they aren't in the race for great hardware spec like other which just made Dual core devices without software support for it. Sony waited to release dual core when it's necessary i.e. As far as I know ICS is optimized for Dual core. So when they started rolling out ICS update they started to make dual core devices. But if you looking to brag about the spec then sure go for SGS 3 that might out
My 2 cents
So in light of the following news are HTC going to bring out something special or just quietly dye by the way side?
http://www.androidguys.com/2012/07/30/htc-closes-south-korea-office-due-to-slow-sales-samsung-hurting-profits/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+androidguyscom+%28AndroidGuys%29&utm_content=Google+Reader
Bear in mind the current fiasco with ICS and the Desire HD.
So are you going to jump the HTC ship?
Ya well, the one series was a miss with consumers at large ,can't imagine what would have happened if the one x for example had sd card storage and a battery access
We can only hope they die a quick but painful death.
... unless they release ics source code then i don't care what they do.
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I am already planning my jump over to Samsung rightly or wrongly, but they are talking about launching JB on the S3 and even the S2 in the very near future! And from what I have seen they seem to deliver what they say!
Well I wouldn't want them to die, afterall competition is always good, however I've decided that my DHD shall be my last HTC phone after all that has happened. I'm contemplating on waiting for the next Google phone, immediate updates and a bugless AOSP experience, what else could one ask for?
That is what you get when you mess with all the HTC Desire HD owners!!! Not releasing ICS for their most sold phone and telling their costumers lies about HTC Desire HD performance. And the same with HTC Desire.
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Ya well, the one series was a miss with consumers at large ,can't imagine what would have happened if the one x for example had sd card storage and a battery access
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Agreed, I cant believe they would release such a retarded phone and a clear attempt to copy the iPhone business model.
I'm due upgrade now but think ill just stick with my DHD.
They should have concentrated all efforts on savage battery life combined with expansion of mem.
That is the general consensus I am feeling form this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396842
It’s a shame that a company with a lot of promise has now just peed of its fan base and almost washed their hand of them.
If you look at the number of ROMs in the development thread you can see that people pretty much rooted their HTC Desire HD as soon as they got them as the hardware far out preformed the software that was loaded and any potential update (although we all knew these wouldn’t come to light! lol )
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That is the general consensus I am feeling form this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396842
It’s a shame that a company with a lot of promise has now just peed of its fan base and almost washed their hand of them.
If you look at the number of ROMs in the development thread you can see that people pretty much rooted their HTC Desire HD as soon as they got them as the hardware far out preformed the software that was loaded and any potential update (although we all knew these wouldn’t come to light! lol )
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Don't forget Samsung is from South Korea, so why keep spending money on SK if you know that "everyone" in SK has a Samsung phone :silly:
I hope they won't cancel the ICS update for developers. They had the same problem with Gingerbread update for the Desire.
They never released it as an OTA update, but they released it for developers.
So let's hope they do the same with Desire HD (in the future).
About One-series. It's indeed a sad story, but I think why most people didn't bought the One-phones was because most of them were probably waiting to see the Galaxy SIII and it seems that the SIII is the number one choice now for lots of Android users.
That or the New Galaxy Nexus (fingers crossed it won’t be produced by HTC) that will ruin the Nexus name IMO
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That or the New Galaxy Nexus (fingers crossed it won’t be produced by HTC) that will ruin the Nexus name IMO
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Why would HTC ruin it? I like HTC's hardware
1 months ago I planned to buy the One X along with one of my best friends and I almost sell my DHD (it even already entered the "For Sale" thread in one of Indonesia's largest community forum). But after I read so much informations from early adopter of One X about how bad is the HTC's quality control over One X hardware productions I hold my decisions to upgrade because I don't wanna spend my time dealing with HTC service center.
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Well I wouldn't want them to die, afterall competition is always good, however I've decided that my DHD shall be my last HTC phone after all that has happened. I'm contemplating on waiting for the next Google phone, immediate updates and a bugless AOSP experience, what else could one ask for?
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i know some1 who has the one x , personaly i dont like it yes better screen but it looks to plasticy as for not having expandable memory that has def put me off , it was a realy silly move on htcs part but they seem to be doing a lot of those latley
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Tierd of htc, they were the best option when i bought my dhd. The new one series cant beat s3 imo. Im going for nexus next, nothing beats (not even s3) the new android stock interface.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWysHOjl95E
What do you guys think? I think its a winner. All Sony's 2012 phones were terrible.
I think it has nothing to do with the Nexus 4...
Edited for helpfulness: Either post things like this here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021559 or in the android general section.
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It doesn't look bad at all. And dust, water resistance is always a plus. But I prefer the N4 with pure android and updates from Google.
It's OK to post this here. We don't have an off-topic forum, or even an off-topic thread, right? Oh wait...
Agreed. This has nothing to do with the Nexus 4. If you're already willing to jump ship, well... Boo.
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It doesn't look bad at all. And dust, water resistance is always a plus. But I prefer the N4 with pure android and updates from Google.
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Yeah, but alot of the CM devs seem to like Xperia phones since Sony actually works closely with them so they have functional source drops, blobs and documentation... Which means that Sony is good enough for people who are interested in their designs.
Non Nexus phone? no thanks.
Here are the key specs for the Xperia Z:
1.5 GHz Snapdragon S4 Pro quad-core processor
1080p HD 5-inch display
Android 4.1
4G/LTE
2GB RAM
13.1MP rear camera; 2.2MP front-facing camera
NFC
Water and dust resistant
Dimensions: 139 x 71 x 7.9mm
Battery 2,330 mAh
Up to 16GB Memory; expandable (up to 32GB) via microSD card slot
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... same thing I mentioned in the other thread. phones being announced at CES are still being released with older android versions. waiting for the update to come out? no thanks. I will stick to my Nexus devices, I can't trust any manufacturer to release updates for their phones in a timely mannered. nice specs though.
Glass back? Guess it will get scratches 'out of nowhere'.
In that respect I guess it does belong in this forum
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Where do I sign?
Nice looking phone.
http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/445797/sony_unveils_flagship_xperia_z_smartphone/
When was Sony ever here?
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When was Sony ever here?
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They weren't.
But with them releasing a phone like this, it kinda makes me hope the next Nexus is made by them. The Nexus Z? I could go Sony for that. Hell, I went LG for this one, and I swore I would never do that again.
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Deja vu Xperia S release?
Actually they are better this time. I'm surprised they have 4.1, instead of 4.0. ROFL
Screw all these phones getting bigger and bigger its so depressing even with this nexus its semi hard to type with one hand when ur reaching over for the A or Q ..no complaining but cmon where are they gonna draw a line of being too big for mobile use
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Price: 528 pounds in UK.
Yeah they aren't even comparable, it's twice the price of N4.
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I love Sony and I hope they can see success in the future. I'm a Sony loyalist to the bitter end. I would love to see them make a Nexus device in the future. I would consider buying one of their products if they made devices that mattered. Sony used to "wow" the world with their innovation and design. I find it sad to see them make marginalized products. Even Steve Jobs tried copying their design and that says something. With that said, this phone looks like a step in the right direction. The physical design is stunning and I’m sure the screen tech will blow people away, however I really think they needed to bring their A-game, but this looks like another phone that will get lost in the shuffle. In terms of specs, it would have been awesome if they stuffed a newly announced Tegra 4 and some new battery tech (keep in mind Sony is a major manufacture of high-tech batteries). Sony really needs a game changing device to blow away companies like Samsung & Apple and I don’t see this being that type of a device.
Why is this on the Nexus 4 forum?
Enhanced said:
When was Sony ever here?
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Were they ever away?
Their hardware has already been great, it's just their slow update cycles that swayed me towards Nexus 4.
CrazyPeter said:
Were they ever away?
Their hardware has already been great, it's just their slow update cycles that swayed me towards Nexus 4.
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Just as the Engadget Podcast said.... when was the last time you could remember a hit phone by Sony? Android? Nope sorry. Yes they have tried, but their company is more PS3 and other things focused. Yes maybe they are now realizing that Mobile is THE place to be( a little late there) and hopefully they can get their sh*t together. I love my PS3 and other Sony products but their presence is not felt in the mobile industry, regardless of how good their hardware is. HTC make Beautiful hardware, but even they are sliding off the map...
4 easy step Success recipe for Sony, HTC or any other struggling company:
1.BEAUTIFUL durable, Hardware, make it 4.7( nothing bigger than that)
2.POWERFUL guts like quad core, 1080p display etc,
3.PURE Google Android, with ( people LOVE this! Look at other companies that are doing this, Huwaie, ZTE etc..)
4.Stick to ONE phone and make it your Flagship phone!
5.Guarantee the fastest UPDATES for it besides the Nexus for 2 years!
Done, you will have a hot seller! Oh and market it right, no creepy commercials.
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Just as the Engadget Podcast said.... when was the last time you could remember a hit phone by Sony? Android? Nope sorry. Yes they have tried, but their company is more PS3 and other things focused. Yes maybe they are now realizing that Mobile is THE place to be( a little late there) and hopefully they can get their sh*t together. I love my PS3 and other Sony products but their presence is not felt in the mobile industry, regardless of how good their hardware is. HTC make Beautiful hardware, but even they are sliding off the map...
4 easy step Success recipe for Sony, HTC or any other struggling company:
1.BEAUTIFUL durable, Hardware, make it 4.7( nothing bigger than that)
2.POWERFUL guts like quad core, 1080p display etc,
3.PURE Google Android, with ( people LOVE this! Look at other companies that are doing this, Huwaie, ZTE etc..)
4.Stick to ONE phone and make it your Flagship phone!
5.Guarantee the fastest UPDATES for it besides the Nexus for 2 years!
Done, you will have a hot seller! Oh and market it right, no creepy commercials.
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You mean creepy commercials like the droid dna being injected into the guy?
Jess813 said:
Just as the Engadget Podcast said.... when was the last time you could remember a hit phone by Sony? Android? Nope sorry. Yes they have tried, but their company is more PS3 and other things focused. Yes maybe they are now realizing that Mobile is THE place to be( a little late there) and hopefully they can get their sh*t together. I love my PS3 and other Sony products but their presence is not felt in the mobile industry, regardless of how good their hardware is. HTC make Beautiful hardware, but even they are sliding off the map...
4 easy step Success recipe for Sony, HTC or any other struggling company:
1.BEAUTIFUL durable, Hardware, make it 4.7( nothing bigger than that)
2.POWERFUL guts like quad core, 1080p display etc,
3.PURE Google Android, with ( people LOVE this! Look at other companies that are doing this, Huwaie, ZTE etc..)
4.Stick to ONE phone and make it your Flagship phone!
5.Guarantee the fastest UPDATES for it besides the Nexus for 2 years!
Done, you will have a hot seller! Oh and market it right, no creepy commercials.
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No, you are mistaking it with "4 easy steps to making the phone Jess813 wants".
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Looks bad ass
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Is the Sony Xperia SP a good buy at $200. Should I go for it? What do you think?
Also, can you tell me why has the CM11 nightly stopped since 2nd July? This is a bit worrying.
Any suggestions guys? I need it quick please
Yes
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ok no... well, here in Mexico u can get a good SP (no scratch, etc) in about $240 USD so.... doesn't sound bad one for $200.... I think is a good handset right now
scotyard said:
Is the Sony Xperia SP a good buy at $200. Should I go for it? What do you think?
Also, can you tell me why has the CM11 nightly stopped since 2nd July? This is a bit worrying.
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About CM11
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53864061&postcount=1545
Good news
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53914789&postcount=1586
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Yes
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ok no... well, here in Mexico u can get a good SP (no scratch, etc) in about $240 USD so.... doesn't sound bad one for $200.... I think is a good handset right now
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Thanks! I am getting an imported piece from ebay. It is being advertised as a brand new item and what not but lets see if it is a fake/refurbished piece. Anyone with previous experience?
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About CM11
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53864061&postcount=1545
Good news
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53914789&postcount=1586
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The first thing I look for in an android device is the Dev community support particularly CynogenMod. I hope they continue to support the Xperia SP for a long time to come. Many thanks for this information knightazura. You're the best!
Dude go for it if its about the price of moto g as over here in dubai xsp is cheaper than moto g and I just bought this unit a few days back and coming from the galaxy s2 and I have to say its very good phone....
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Samsung Galaxy s4 mini is a better option I think..it has cm, It will get official android 4.4 on July, 1.5GB ram..much better colors on screen and a very good front facing camera
Bad thing is that xperia sp will be stuck on 4.3 forever....... But atleast there is cm.
My mom has the galaxy s4 mini and it's very good and better than xperia in many departments... The only ups of xperia is the gpu and resolution.
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SGS4 mini was first choice but it is at least $170 more than the Xperia SP(I got the SP at a discount price of $200). So this puts the S4 mini in a different league altogether.
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SGS4 mini was first choice but it is at least $170 more than the Xperia SP(I got the SP at a discount price of $200). So this puts the S4 mini in a different league altogether.
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What country do you live in? If you have tmobile and you can only get a C5303 then don't,buy this phone cause I learned it the hard way... Payed 60 bucks for 3 gig data and I can only get 2g :/
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What country do you live in? If you have tmobile.in the us and you can only get a C5303 then don't,buy this phone cause I learned it the hard way... Payed 60 bucks for 3 gig data and I can only get 2g :/
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What country do you live in? If you have tmobile and you can only get a C5303 then don't,buy this phone cause I learned it the hard way... Payed 60 bucks for 3 gig data and I can only get 2g :/
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Only Tmobile USA if you get a XSP there you will always get a C5306 one
Nah.Sony so is a good hand set with decent benchmarks but i am not sure it will get the kitkat update if u r looking forward for it
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I got my xperia sp about 3 months ago. It still is an almost high-end smartphone. To be exact, it's still in the very upper hand of mid-rangers. It can beat up plenty phones in its category, and it's a reliable choise even now. Its processor might be somewhat old, but it's great for multitasking or everything else you'll need. As for graphics, the adreno 320 might be a bit old, but I haven't seen any recent mid-range phones with this g.p.u. except the xperia sp. In other words...it's like it just came out. Buy it and you'll be quite pleased you did. If you want to have kitkat though, there's no information whether this phone will get it or not, so be careful in terms of software.
If you asked me this a week ago I would tell you a straightforward honest no. I was fed up with the tiny problems that always occured and somewhat laggy app responses during use.
But two days ago I got the newest update .205, and everything changed. I finally feel like I got the phone I payed for, and there is nothing I could complain about, really nothing now. It's very smooth and fast in daily use, imidiately responsive, an unbelievable transformation from the former experience I had with it.
$200? Definitely worth it now in my oppinion.
scotyard said:
Is the Sony Xperia SP a good buy at $200. Should I go for it? What do you think?
Also, can you tell me why has the CM11 nightly stopped since 2nd July? This is a bit worrying.
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Definitely
I got the phone for my sister (I own the Xperia ArcS) about 2 weeks ago and it is even better than I imagined. Even the stock rom has very few bloatware compared to older xperia phones, extremely easy to root and with a good amount of RAM and internal memory. Plus it's the only 2013 xperia phone that will probably get the 4.4 kitkat update, If I recall correctly
Definitely worthy to buy, IMO
It's quite encouraging so far looking at the answers.
I'm interested in XSP as well. A few people in the official Sony discussion forum complained about low in-call volume. Hopefully those were some isolated cases. What is the experience of you all?
A big Thank You to you wonderful fellow Xperia SP users for your kind and informative replies. I have bought the phone(Got the C5302) and I love it! It is a very good quality phone for the price.
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What country do you live in? If you have tmobile and you can only get a C5303 then don't,buy this phone cause I learned it the hard way... Payed 60 bucks for 3 gig data and I can only get 2g :/
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I have the C5302 and I can see the H+ in the notification bar which I guess is for HSPA+. I won't be using LTE anyway
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Nah.Sony so is a good hand set with decent benchmarks but i am not sure it will get the kitkat update if u r looking forward for it
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Although 4.3 is good for now, I sure would like to see official update(s). Sony's Timescape UI is the bomb.
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I got my xperia sp about 3 months ago. It still is an almost high-end smartphone. To be exact, it's still in the very upper hand of mid-rangers. It can beat up plenty phones in its category, and it's a reliable choise even now. Its processor might be somewhat old, but it's great for multitasking or everything else you'll need. As for graphics, the adreno 320 might be a bit old, but I haven't seen any recent mid-range phones with this g.p.u. except the xperia sp. In other words...it's like it just came out. Buy it and you'll be quite pleased you did. If you want to have kitkat though, there's no information whether this phone will get it or not, so be careful in terms of software.
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I sure am pleased with it! The fact that it is still being officially sold by sony is nice to boot. Talking of the CPU and GPU, I quite like the CPU and the GPU. What I don't particularly like is the amount of RAM in the phone. There have been instances where the launcher takes time to load into memory after I exit a game or a heavy duty app. Not cool
I must admit the official updates bit is worrying but I took the plunge anyway(Yes, I live life on the bleeding edge).
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If you asked me this a week ago I would tell you a straightforward honest no. I was fed up with the tiny problems that always occured and somewhat laggy app responses during use.
But two days ago I got the newest update .205, and everything changed. I finally feel like I got the phone I payed for, and there is nothing I could complain about, really nothing now. It's very smooth and fast in daily use, imidiately responsive, an unbelievable transformation from the former experience I had with it.
$200? Definitely worth it now in my oppinion.
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It is great to hear that your problems with the Xperia SP are over!!! As soon as I connected the phone to my wifi, i got notifications of updates and I did not hesitate. I too am on the latest .205 too and just like you, I like it too
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Definitely
I got the phone for my sister (I own the Xperia ArcS) about 2 weeks ago and it is even better than I imagined. Even the stock rom has very few bloatware compared to older xperia phones, extremely easy to root and with a good amount of RAM and internal memory. Plus it's the only 2013 xperia phone that will probably get the 4.4 kitkat update, If I recall correctly
Definitely worthy to buy, IMO
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Yea the stock ROM is very fluid and a pleasure to use. I dig it too! The amount of RAM is descent in this price range but a little more wouldn't hurt Rooted and booted too
I read reports that 4.4 was going to come out in June but since it hasn't, maybe they were just rumors unless Sony is lagging behind. I have a gut feeling that Sony will bring the kitkat update to SP before laying it to rest but I feel the SP deserves a lot more.
Need more RAM though for being able to run any future versions of android(Android L and beyond)
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It's quite encouraging so far looking at the answers.
I'm interested in XSP as well. A few people in the official Sony discussion forum complained about low in-call volume. Hopefully those were some isolated cases. What is the experience of you all?
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By all means, go ahead! It is a wonderful phone to own. It has a great build unlike the Samsungs et al. You must already know about the update bit where Sony will probably stop support after 4.3 JB or a maximum of 4.4 Kitkat. If you are okay with this and a little dearth of RAM, then this is a sweet little device.
But now coming to the serious bit, I am having issues with the auto brightness. I looked it up on the internet and came across many others having this issue too. I tried the Yet another brightness app ftom the playstore but it doesn't work for me either
P.S. Does Sony provide a way to change the settings menu to black color? White is too fancy for my taste
A query. My Xperia SP had this wallpaper on it. Somehow it doesn't feel right. Can someone shed some light on this?
http://imgur.com/E0afP2y
Also, there are no Live wallpapers by Sony on it( I am not sure about the Enchanted Forrest). Is this right?
http://i.imgur.com/atoToAf.png
http://i.imgur.com/hu06ESi.png
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A query. My Xperia SP had this wallpaper on it. Somehow it doesn't feel right. Can someone shed some light on this?
http://imgur.com/E0afP2y
Also, there are no Live wallpapers by Sony on it( I am not sure about the Enchanted Forrest). Is this right?
http://i.imgur.com/atoToAf.png
http://i.imgur.com/hu06ESi.png
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Where did you get the device?
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@scotyard
Just change wallpaper to stock 2013 Xperia wall
Ther is LWP,Magic Forest