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Arc vs nexus s

I sent my captivate today for return to Rogers and waiting April 14 for nexus s or 18-21st for arc. But can't decide which one. What you guys think? And why?
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Go for nexus s. As Sony sucks with updates and you will get update first with NS since its a Google phone

Arc for ant +.
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I say Arc cuz I think it looks better an ha better specs plus Sony said they knkow how important and are growing hence gingerbread on arc
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i think arc is better too...
-nexus s is the most bad phone i have ever seen!!
-arc is more beautiful!
-arc has better camera!!(censor is using by sony's professional digital cameras!
and the guy said buy nexus,he is one of those who bought x10 and is upset and disappointed because of it's update!!

Arc kicks ass I believe, getting mine tomorrow.
SE is more serious now about updates I think, and Arc is very well equipped.

Hi - You don't need to worry about SE updating the Arc... it will happen.. I have been "enroled" into a SE UK Elite Testlab and met with the MD of SE UK last week.. they are totally committed to getting this right and fully appreciate how important it is to keep the Android versions upto date for a reasonable length of time.. as well as more minor UI upgrades in between..

Arc any day of the week and twice on Sundays!
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So only thing arc has *its beautiful* and better camera? That's it? Lol
I bet Sony Ericsson did same stuff like before like x10 where you plug 3rd party earbuds with mic and they wont work. So you have to buy their crappy earbuds

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Hi - You don't need to worry about SE updating the Arc... it will happen.. I have been "enroled" into a SE UK Elite Testlab and met with the MD of SE UK last week.. they are totally committed to getting this right and fully appreciate how important it is to keep the Android versions upto date for a reasonable length of time.. as well as more minor UI upgrades in between..
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I would like to add an example to that,
R800i ( Xperia Play ) was released in UK between 31/3 and 1st/4...
three days later, they already made an update on the air to fix a minor bug...
Now if you don't consider that keeping you updated and as a great support then I'm not sure what will be

sofia-captivate said:
So only thing arc has *its beautiful* and better camera? That's it? Lol
I bet Sony Ericsson did same stuff like before like x10 where you plug 3rd party earbuds with mic and they wont work. So you have to buy their crappy earbuds
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I just laugh at you're posts
really... what are you doing here anyway? spamming with your useless comments will do no good

I have used the Nexus S and now have the Arc...
Arc is so much better... Looks stunning too

I have to admit that I always consider getting the Nexus S but they never had it on 850 3G till recently and they have it white too and I was investigating. reason is that Google makes the android and S is a Google phone therefore you get updates on time(supposedly) but then I always find myself going back to SE.
It would be nice if you could review a comparison with two phones little details as I can see the specs on website.
Only thing pisses me off right now @ this moment is that no one carries arc in the US and even if they do, it would be ATT with the crappy service and its not available yet.
NA sucks in terms of getting new technologies on time.

Rogers is getting nexus s on 14th and also arc on 14-21st.
Arc is 549$ with no contract. Promo is 99$ on 3 year agreement after that $399 on 3 year contract WOW
Nimche said:
I have to admit that I always consider getting the Nexus S but they never had it on 850 3G till recently and they have it white too and I was investigating. reason is that Google makes the android and S is a Google phone therefore you get updates on time(supposedly) but then I always find myself going back to SE.
It would be nice if you could review a comparison with two phones little details as I can see the specs on website.
Only thing pisses me off right now @ this moment is that no one carries arc in the US and even if they do, it would be ATT with the crappy service and its not available yet.
NA sucks in terms of getting new technologies on time.
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sofia-captivate said:
Arc is 549$ with no contract.
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Is that price official? I didn't see them actually selling it yet for out of contract?

Yep its official 100% also confirm on phone. Here is also a link http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/04/04/complete-pricing-revealed-for-the-rogers-xperia-play-and-arc/
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Is that price official? I didn't see them actually selling it yet for out of contract?
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sofia-captivate said:
Yep its official 100% also confirm on phone. Here is also a link http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/04/04/complete-pricing-revealed-for-the-rogers-xperia-play-and-arc/Sent from my X10i using Tapatalk
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So with that being said, we should be having some signs of arc on ebay and other re-sellers for UMTS 850 in next couple of weeks.

Between the Arc and the Nexus S...
I say this grudgingly... get the Arc. Samsung Phones have GREAT hardware... but I never liked the galaxy S' build quality.
Between the Arc and the Desire HD? Desire HD ALL THE WAY.
Desire HD has Noise Cancellation + better build quality + SLCD Screen

Maedhros said:
Between the Arc and the Nexus S...
I say this grudgingly... get the Arc. Samsung Phones have GREAT hardware... but I never liked the galaxy S' build quality.
Between the Arc and the Desire HD? Desire HD ALL THE WAY.
Desire HD has Noise Cancellation + better build quality + SLCD Screen
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hmmm, Noise Cancellation is available with Arc, so I'd say Better build quality + SLCD screen

Wow dont even think about Desire HD - its awsome to play around with custom roms and the build quality is good (even dough the plastik covers on the back tend to make a noise every time i grab the phone) BUT
Desire HD
- Camera sucks big time!! No comparison to arc !
- its to heavy ( dont try to hold it over your head while reading in bed)
- screen on DHD is so washed out compared to arc its really like greyish in comparison
On Desire HD there are always about 20% cpu usage due to al the sense modifications
And here we come to the worst part - battery is just bad (and I had every custom rom and kernel that is available on my DHD)
I got trough the day but with nothing left while with the arc even the first day finished with 45% left
Sorry but I had to get that one out couse DHD is really nice for winter time when I was always able to charge it but now in spring when your on the go its just not enough battery.
Go for the arc its even cheaper where I live (germany)
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Atrix vs arc vs nexus s

Looking for new phone but can't decide which one to buy and why which would you guys go for? And why? Please help me out and share you taughts.
Thanks
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The only thing the Arc has of interest to me would be the camera. But apparently people are reporting that it's a bit underwhelming. I was hoping that the Exmor-R sensor would really dazzle consumers but it's not as great as most expected.
Nexus S I wouldn't even consider. Atrix all the way. It'll be nice that the Arc will have a stronger development community than the crappy X10 but it's specs just aren't up to snuff.

Go ATRIX. I've had all 3. Arc is nice but v plastic. Nexus is bit boring, poor camera bit plastic.
Once you've had dual core you wont go back.
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Check gsmarena.com and you can check and compare all 3 devices the pros n cons.
Personally, I like the ATRIX. It still blows away the competition. Plus its DUAL CORE!
Braggin rights!

At CTIA I looked at an Arc for a few minutes, it was nice.
It felt larger and cheaper somehow. Screen was very colorful "Super AMOLEDish"
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I like my Atrix better. I DID like the Galaxy S2 but it's not ready and the Atrix is! - was.

Fountainhead931 said:
At CTIA I looked at an Arc for a few minutes, it was nice.
It felt larger and cheaper somehow. Screen was very colorful "Super AMOLEDish"
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I like my Atrix better. I DID like the Galaxy S2 but it's not ready and the Atrix is! - was.
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I agree...

The best thing about the Arc is its software... super smooth, Gingerbread, lovely widgets...etc.
But it seems everyone says the build feels cheap, which is a real shame.
If you can afford to wait a couple of months, the EVO 3D seems to be the best phone you can get. If you're not so big on 3D, get the HTC Pyramid (Sensation).
If you can't afford to wait: Atrix.

If atrix is good than those 2 phones. Howcome so many people complaining about the atrix?
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On thing that comes to mind with the Arc is "fingerprints".... The CPU is a bit underwelming too, I disagree the UI is fluid, its pretty laggy actually.
If I had the choice of the Xperia Play or Arc, I'd get the X Play.

rockingx10 said:
Looking for new phone but can't decide which one to buy and why which would you guys go for? And why? Please help me out and share you taughts.
Thanks
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i have an x10 just now, but im ready to get my Atrix with Telcel here in Mexico
I know, nobody makes phones sexiest as Sony Ericsson does. Arc is beautiful but is more of the same SE sh!t.
I think I am a SE fan, and actually a moto hater XD but atrix has change everything (sounds like the iphone ad, but its true). I hope Motorola don't let the atrix in the past so quickly but I think as atrix is the first of all new generation smartphones this not gonna happen.
I would be happy with Honecomb XD

Dual core is the shyt.
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Upgrade from Arc S?

Hey guys, looking for some advice. I bought an arc s about 4 months ago to replace my dying x10i and I've been very happy with it, however it's starting to feel a bit dated and I don't know what would be a good upgrade. I have an excellent sim only contract so would like to buy a handset upfront, but I don't want to spend silly money.
I have installed ics and really like the experience, however the occasional lag is quite annoying. I think I just want a decent handset with more ram really, but I think a galaxy s2 would be equally dated in another 4 months.
I just bought an iPad 3 and really enjoy how nippy it is, I've been considering moving over to iPhone for my next phone..lout would have to wait and see what comes out this fall.
I dunno....maybe I just need to be patient but though I would check I'm not missing some super secret , perfect phone I haven't seen yet! Would. A Sony Xperia P be a good replacement for an arc s? Seems almost the same specs but double the ram... Thoughts?

Well as you are now forever locked into Apple as a single hardware supplier for your tablet, are you prepared to buy separate apps for your phone?
If so, then I would look at the Xperia S... If you aren't, then sell your iPad3, buy a decent Android tablet and a Xperia S.

My brother purchased an iphone4, i asked him if he new he would be restricted with apps, roms and hardware, he said yes its not a problem for him. Hes now wanting to be shot of it, every update destroys his jailbreak and it eats into his time putting it back again. In short he now wishes he hadn't gone down the apple route, although both he and i agree its a nice bit of kit just a bit restricted if you like fiddling and playing with software i guess. Each to their own i suppose. I think his main gripe is with the constant use of i tunes software for his films and movies. I rather like the look of that new hyabusa ? Very much Arc looking but slightly more updated specs, not sure it will be near top of the pops still when its launched here but that's never really bothered me as long as it does what i want it too alls good and rosey. More ram and dual core with a bigger screen will have to see how it sits in the hand. I picked up the SGS II last year and for me it didnt feel good in the hand so left it there i know my arc isnt bleeding edge far from it, butt eh screen is decent and it is comfortable, hope the hyabusa feels the same just hope it doesnt come with too high a price tag.

Well I'm quite happy with the stock ipad experience and quite happy to do the majority of my app purchases for gaming etc on that platform.
For my mobile, I don't play games or watch movies often... It's mostly Facebook, messaging, browsing etc. I know I could make do with a midrange phone for that but I like to be upto date and have a fast user experience. The xperia s feels a little too big when I've used it and I worry it will be the usual Sony affair and not be as fast as it should be with those specs.
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I saw the reworked arc s, harabusa or however it's spelt heh. That would be perfect but no idea when I could get one or how much it will be
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jomil said:
The xperia s feels a little too big when I've used it and I worry it will be the usual Sony affair and not be as fast as it should be with those specs.
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Well I don't have an Xperia S, but I have played with a entry level XPeria U, and it's Lightening fast, so much faster than my Xperia ARC S, which seems to be hobbled by too little RAM.

If you are a woman who has no time or need for Android development, who has no idea about hardware and wants something stable, buy your iPhone now and never look back... Android will not satisfy you, Xperia S, NXT whatnot ....
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Bushmaster78FS said:
If you are a woman who has no time or need for Android development, who has no idea about hardware and wants something stable, buy your iPhone now and never look back... Android will not satisfy you, Xperia S, NXT whatnot ....
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Errr okay, I'm not a woman. Thanks for that sexist comment though. I love tinkering with android and really don't see the point in having an iPad AND an iPhone, it's nice to have the best of both. All I'm concerned about is getting a decent upgrade which will last me.
How can it be that the Xperia U is faster than the S? That's not reassuring...often phones feel nippy when new and nothing installed. Or maybe the S will improve with ICS? I am considering getting an S as I could grab one for around £200

jomil said:
Errr okay, I'm not a woman. Thanks for that sexist comment though. I love tinkering with android and really don't see the point in having an iPad AND an iPhone, it's nice to have the best of both. All I'm concerned about is getting a decent upgrade which will last me.
How can it be that the Xperia U is faster than the S? That's not reassuring...often phones feel nippy when new and nothing installed. Or maybe the S will improve with ICS? I am considering getting an S as I could grab one for around £200
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The remark is basically inspired from what I have seen with my wife... She's a technology illiterate and iPhone did the trick for her. She had a decent android phone which basically "never worked right", regardless of updates etc. IPhone is a dumbed down version of android with no possibility to customize, with pretty eye candy, sold at a premium price ... IPad is the big brother... You catch my drift ... I just can't believe you spent money on an iPad ... But that's just me and nothing personal ...
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no problems fella. I just spent the last few hours unlocking my bootloader, changing the baseband, flashing a new kernel and loading arconium v2 onto my Arc S. Feeling pretty smug as I haven't done anything more than root a phone before... the phone is truely flying! Should last me another few months now.
Hurrah!

jomil said:
How can it be that the Xperia U is faster than the S? That's not reassuring...
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Sorry, typo, missed out the ARC bit..
The Xperia U feels REALLY fast compared to my ARC S
But then it's got a low-res display, so it's less for the GPU to drive, perhaps???? It's also Gingerbread not ICS....

jomil said:
no problems fella. I just spent the last few hours unlocking my bootloader, changing the baseband, flashing a new kernel and loading arconium v2 onto my Arc S. Feeling pretty smug as I haven't done anything more than root a phone before... the phone is truely flying! Should last me another few months now.
Hurrah!
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I suggest you to try JJHIBRID ROM. I was about to sell my arc S but when I tried this rom, I decided it will be good for another half a year.
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CrazyPeter said:
Sorry, typo, missed out the ARC bit..
The Xperia U feels REALLY fast compared to my ARC S
But then it's got a low-res display, so it's less for the GPU to drive, perhaps???? It's also Gingerbread not ICS....
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You know ARC S Rocks! too with GB

Bushmaster78FS said:
If you are a woman who has no time or need for Android development, who has no idea about hardware and wants something stable, buy your iPhone now and never look back... Android will not satisfy you, Xperia S, NXT whatnot ....
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That was down right sexist. Don't judge the whole mankind by one example. I'm a girl and would never sell my soul to the devil (read: Apple). Love Linux (Mint) and Android, and I'm quite an average ROM and kernel flasher.
SEK610i said:
I suggest you to try JJHIBRID ROM. I was about to sell my arc S but when I tried this rom, I decided it will be good for another half a year.
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JJ's Hybrid ROM 3.2 was a fresh new beginning for my S-less arc. I'm not your average rich person who changes phones every 2 weeks, but I wouldn't even think about selling my arc if it wasn't for the super bad quality of the housing (cracks, etc.).
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No it wasn't sexist... .... It is not only one example that runs blind behind the stupid iphone bandwagon... Did you miss the pink otter boxes being sold everywhere for that precious iphone? You are or seem to be an exception...
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Bushmaster78FS said:
No it wasn't sexist... .... It is not only one example that runs blind behind the stupid iphone bandwagon... Did you miss the pink otter boxes being sold everywhere for that precious iphone? You are or seem to be an exception...
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Um, I happen to see more guys with iCrappers than girls in my country.
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sunbriel said:
Um, I happen to see more guys with iCrappers than girls in my country.
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Lol we are talking about an exceptional country here...
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Bushmaster78FS said:
Lol we are talking about an exceptional country here...
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I see more Samsungs and HTCs, with a bit of Sony (Ericsson) here and there. Apple might aim the female buyers, but it's far from being woman's only phone-friend. And I see you're from the States - the weird part of the world full of parents who buy their 4 yo an iCrapper to play with. I've always found US Americans super weird people.
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Truth be told I know plenty of guys, in military, flying attack helicopters, and drooling over iphones... Best they could do is jailbreak it and change the toolbar color... Whoop de doo... I played with my wife's 3gs... Simplified crap. I merely have Sony because all I own consumer electronics wise is Sony... Arc is an ok phone. But even with ion they are behind the power curve... If I were you I'd use that arc with their latest GB... Heck come up 250 bucks I can sell you my arc S. They fixed the Crack issue with arc S... Mine is brand new though
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Just to let you all know, I bought a galaxy s3 lol will let you know how much I like it!
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Never buy Sony again

In the beginning of this topic I like to thank all the people here that helped me and inspired me for the past 6 months and made me love my phone more and use it to the max.
I just got a heartache when I saw the news of jb not coming for our beloved device which is capable unfortunately .sony used their own ways to make the rumors come true .
So I will sell it today I am not a fan of Sony anymore I will buy nexus or s3 or HOX, so goodbye my friends and god bless you all.
Special thanks for :
Aeon
Thilianic
JJdoctor
Pandemic
Jader
Maxio
Besttt
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And many more of you .
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drali500 said:
In the beginning of this topic I like to thank all the people here that helped me and inspired me for the past 6 months and made me love my phone more and use it to the max.
I just got a heartache when I saw the news of jb not coming for our beloved device which is capable unfortunately .sony used their own ways to make the rumors come true .
So I will sell it today I am not a fan of Sony anymore I will buy nexus or s3 or HOX, so goodbye my friends and god bless you all.
Special thanks for :
Aeon
Thilianic
JJdoctor
Pandemic
Jader
Maxio
Besttt
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And many more of you .
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I also expected that atlest arc s will get jb

Lot of us won't buy sony again. I'll stick to samsung or maybe LG Nexus 4. A lot of people ask me for advise when buying a new phone, Sony is banned from now on.

Only Sony if they release acceptable hardware with unlocked bootloader. Probably LG or Nexus for me next year.
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this is what i think
i dont know more about this
but as i have noticed and i have seen as weel
compair to SAMSUNG and LG sony is giving at list 2 updates as well as if you take a close look at UI and hardware design then you will realize that sony is making such nice handset of the level where in samsung LG cant even think
one very true incident
in my family most of people are using sony and you all guys wont believe they all have even not update to ics they has to say that its more then enough
so if you think keeping general customer in hand then they all are satisfied
but you for development crezzy genies like you all guys sony should at list provide 4.1.1 or 5.1 to arc s as that is the most and the last expensive handset by SE(sony ericsson)
here i have just shared my opinion i may b wrong or right but this is what i think

I don't like sony because...
- Screens are not so good imho
- Outdated Hardware
- Crappy build quality just lost my arc while jogging and now its screen is cracked and i can pay 130$ haha Never... I'll buy new phone
- Exmor R actually really sucks compared to Note 2 Camera for example
- Really Slow. My arc on stock ics had 0.00MB free RAM.

jader13254 said:
Why I hate Sony:
- Screens are all 100% CRAP! arx Screen has 20% Contrast compared to S3, looks really unsharpen
- Outdated Hardware
- Crappy build quality just lost my arc while jogging and now its screen is cracked and i can pay 130$ haha Never... I'll buy new phone
- Exmor R actually really sucks compared to Note 2 Camera for exsample
- Really Slow. My arc on stock ics had 0.00MB free RAM - than Ultimate HD came LOLz
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- Screens are not crap. And it doesn't look unsharpen because of contrast but because of much lower dots-per-inch density. And, comparing an phone released in january 2011 with one released in may 2012... Really?
- Get yourself an Samsung/Apple device, and let it fall while you're jogging. Let us know the result.
- Exmor R Sucks?
- Yes, the ICS update is quite slow, mostly because of laziness of Sony programmers, not because of crappy hardware.

mr_torture said:
- Screens are not crap. And it doesn't look unsharpen because of contrast but because of much lower dots-per-inch density. And, comparing an phone released in january 2011 with one released in may 2012... Really?
- Get yourself an Samsung/Apple device, and let it fall while you're jogging. Let us know the result.
- Exmor R Sucks?
- Yes, the ICS update is quite slow, mostly because of laziness of Sony programmers, not because of crappy hardware.
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1. I said it look unsharpen AND low contrast. I hate sony screens
2. Ok. I dropped my iPod 3 times at same day and no probs at all
3. Yes, very high colored Pixels (dont remeber word)
4. Yeah
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My Mighty WhiteHOX has arrived
Goodbye SONY & welcome HTC

Good luck with white hox!
http://gizmodo.com/5931430/htc-one-x-after-4-months-weird-batteries-and-wimpy-gorrillas

Well about the ppl comparing arc s and samsung galaxy s 3 are u ****ing kiding me? ?? 4 cored phone vs single core ? with around 1 and a half year defferance ?Sony was never really good at developers phones.Sony/sony ericsson was good at making beautiful phones and thats what arc is and now xperia T.In my opinion arc s gives all the productivity the main stream user needs.If u were looking for a developer's phone u should have bought nokia n900 or HTC HD 2 and test whatever software u want.I still have friends that are all new software inthusiasts and they are still using hd 2 with ICS on it.So... pls stop crying about sony not adding more and more updates to there 2011 phones.U cant ever compare arc s to sg s2 because s2 got 2 times the proccesor power and if u bought atnt version it got even more soooo ***** please

I just cant believe all these post.
- Sony has a really nice screen, beatiful real color, not amoled that are just strong shiny fakes color, Only for the blacks are better. And outside with the sunlight i dont have problem with my Arc, except sometimes but trust me, all other phone would have the same problem.
- My Arc fell from my bed or desktop thousand of times and it has only a uncolored edge and some lines behind the cover if u look really closly. My bro dropped his Nexus S once and the glass got broke. Its just luck, but for sure isnt bad our screen.
- The camera is something awesome. A bit buggy? well still 1000 better than my friend's Galaxy Nexus.
- Audio quality and all Media services are fantastic. I love the Walkman, the Album, and Video. Are really well done. Listening music with the earplugs makes me enjoy about my choise and i dont need some stupid iPod or Mp3 player.
- Design, i fell in love with it.
- price/quality of the Arc is perfect.
- ICS yes it was buggy but at least we had it, lot of other mobile didnt even get it and are stuck with Froyo or GB, so u can go back to GB to have a smoothest phone and have their same experience and dont have ICS.
And well the outdated hardware is true, but then if u prefer the last quadcore dont complain about the prices. I payed my arc S same price of how much the Galaxy S was. Glad i choose this. and honestly if i have to pay 150 euro for a ****ty phone with 300MB of ram, 600Mhz a 3Mpx camera and 3.5" screen, or 700/800 euro for a quadcore , 4.7" screen and God knows what other useless feature, i prefer 300 euro for such a good quality.
Next time feel free to buy a useless quadcore (they are smartphone...playing N.O.V.A or FB dont really need a 1.5GHz quadcore) that come with ICS, will get JB and LK and then in the middle of 2013 or beggining of 2014 will be the same story again. Samsung/HTC/LG dont update our phone, they suck, never again.
Only the Ram its the only thing that new phones, and also old one needs.
Im sad like all of u, but they need to sell new phones, they dont gain anything by upgrading. Maybe in a future would be nice if they give us the source, but nowdays people changes phones every 6 months, like people who had bought GSII and some months after the GS III and as soon the GS IV will come out, they will buy it. There are always people who will buy the last product, so they just care about creating new things for new consumers. Sony already updated the ICS series. Buggy? then as i already said go back to GB like most of all other 2011 phones.
+1 For Gogobaba behind me even if Arc S kicks GS II ass. For normal phone usage (is not playing games. We arent iPhone users, we buy SMARTphone not Gambeboy) the dual core doesnt show any difference, maybe 0.5 second faster.
BTW my first phone was a Samsung Omnia II: WM 6.x and Samsung top mobile. 1 weeks after that i bought it,all omnia's owner find it out that we werent going to get WP 7.
Did i said Samsung suck or never again windows? no i just enjoyed my phone.

As above, people moan but they're talking about what is now technologically an old phone....
People grumble about lagging and other trivial things but mine for example, flies! Admittedly through the help of some good developers....those who complain surely haven't had it from release because there are some crazy expectations. If you can't afford a fancy top line handset, At least don't moan about the best your budget can afford. I've had one from release and still now there's not anything on any other phone that I can't live without...
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I ditched Sony when I found out downgrading your arc two versions lower bricks the battery gauge.
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Oh yea and I couldn't unlock my bootloader for some reason, just wouldn't let me from the Sony website.
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I totally agree with you. So many butthurt people =j
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I can't believe people buy Sony phones expecting to get a powerhouse, my sister owns a Xperia Arc and she doesn't even knows she can update to ICS (she doesn't even knows what that is) and she is 100% in love with her phone, the reason why I like and will stick to Sony phones are the following:
-Polished, simple and unique UI (I'm looking at you, TouchWiz and however LG's UI is named).
-Beatiful designs. (Kind of personal here, but I mean, SG2 is just a rectangular phone with a button on the center compared to the NXT series).
-Good camera. (at least on my X10a, MK16a and SK17a).
-Unlike other companies, they prove hardware doesn't means good user experience (check iPhone 4 performance [good] and 2011 Xperia performance on GB [good] and LG Optimus Black performance [ugh])
There may be some more reasons I forgot, but seriously, Xperias are very good offerings all around, that's why my next phone will be either Xperia V or P, I mean: good designs, good prize (at least on Xperia P), good camera and good performance.
Besides, I got Galaxy Note 1 with my new contract on March and I really didn't liked it, screen was pretty nice and camera didn't dissapoint, but performance wasn't as smooth as Samsung was claiming, it also got pretty hot, HELL! when I got out of the store the day I got it, it got so hot I had few blue paint on my hand! ._. I sold it in 1 week and got my Xperia Pro and a Laptop with that money. <.<

I agree that Sony has already done its good job to arc, but I dun agree that it has "finish" their job already.
Here is the fact:
- Arc was launched since 2011 Apr
- 4.1 Jelly Bean Source Code Released to AOSP in 2012 Jul, which is 16 months after Arc was available
- Sony(Ericsson) was a member of the Android Alliance which has promised timely Android OS updates for 18 months after device launch, in Google I/O 2011
Unless Sony gives out a strong reason and proof that the hardware of Arc is the inadequacy for the update, I cannot conclude Sony has delivered its best effort to for Arc/2011series

I think sony still better than samsung as the devices are less brickable hardware-wise.

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I agree that Sony has already done its good job to arc, but I dun agree that it has "finish" their job already.
Here is the fact:
- Arc was launched since 2011 Apr
- 4.1 Jelly Bean Source Code Released to AOSP in 2012 Jul, which is 16 months after Arc was available
- Sony(Ericsson) was a member of the Android Alliance which has promised timely Android OS updates for 18 months after device launch, in Google I/O 2011
Unless Sony gives out a strong reason and proof that the hardware of Arc is the inadequacy for the update, I cannot conclude Sony has delivered its best effort to for Arc/2011series
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Couldn't agree more
But I was expecting JB atleast for Arc S.
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Atleast, Arc S should have been updated, no?
Oh lord and even for the newly released ph we have to wait 4-5 months more, when it was supposed to come with JB. And no new about NXT series. Uff, I dont even like Samsung and HTC, and now only way is "Nexus".
Too bad Sony, you asked for it.
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I think Sony users are very lucky and should be happy with their phones. I had an Arc, absolutely loved it. Jumped ship to an LG Optimus 3D and it doesn't even have ICS yet, much less any talk about JB (screw the Open Handset Alliance). Sony ROMs give one of the cleanest, stock-like experiences unlike almost all the other manufacturers which bundle crap like Touchwiz, Optimus UI, Sense etc, which imo is one of the few reasons why the 2011 Xperia devices are able to run ICS so smoothly. I really don't see why people are already complaining because there isn't any phone running JB that is single core AFAIK, especially when the phone is admittedly rather old.

Hmmm might cancel my Xperia z pre order

Am currently watching the HTC One announcement of their new phone. Have to say, looks pretty awesome, seriously considering cancelling my xz order and waiting for the HTC. I have had the HTC One and the HTC One X before, both have awesome screens, and when all the forum posts about the quality, or lack of quality, depending on which post your read, of the xz's screen. Hmmmm, decisions decisions.
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TBH I was thinking the same not long ago but after hearing the new HTC has no memory card slot and only 32gb version. Im not interested atleast 64gb like one x+ would have changed my mind.

R89SONY said:
TBH I was thinking the same not long ago but after hearing the new HTC has no memory card slot and only 32gb version. Im not interested atleast 64gb like one x+ would have changed my mind.
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It comes in 32 and 64 gig options. Need more than 64 gig, get a laptop.
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Am currently watching the HTC One announcement of their new phone. Have to say, looks pretty awesome, seriously considering cancelling my xz order and waiting for the HTC. I have had the HTC One and the HTC One X before, both have awesome screens, and when all the forum posts about the quality, or lack of quality, depending on which post your read, of the xz's screen. Hmmmm, decisions decisions.
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It looks much better than the xperia Z, its amazing.
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you re canceling xperia Z now in two months you ll cancel HTC and order next top phone to get out and in two months you ll cancel that one and the story continues

R89SONY said:
TBH I was thinking the same not long ago but after hearing the new HTC has no memory card slot and only 32gb version. Im not interested atleast 64gb like one x+ would have changed my mind.
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I'm sticking me the XZ, yes the HTC One looks nice etc but I change is due for me, this year will be the year for Sony I believe!

Sony z Pros
Better looking (i think)
Water/dust proof (not really something I need)
SD-card
Better dev support
less customized version of android, so possible faster roll out of new versions
HTC One pros
Newer SOC / faster/ less power
Better Screen
More internal memory
probably better speakers (not that i care)
infrared (not that i care)
As for the camera we don't know which will be better, and I don't really care as in the end all camera phones are rubbish
I'm not sure what to do, but looking at the hardware spec list the HTC is the one to get
looking at the software and design I favor the Z
Darn why could HTC just make a ****y phone
edit:
The presentation veld a bit like a teenage phone, that is holding me back as well

stefanve said:
Sony z Pros
Better looking (i think)
Water/dust proof (not really something I need)
SD-card
Better dev support
less customized version of android, so possible faster roll out of new versions
HTC One pros
Newer SOC / faster/ less power
Better Screen
More internal memory
probably better speakers (not that i care)
infrared (not that i care)
As for the camera we don't know which will be better, and I don't really care as in the end all camera phones are rubbish
I'm not sure what to do, but looking at the hardware spec list the HTC is the one to get
looking at the software and design I favor the Z
Darn why could HTC just make a ****y phone
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I'm sorry but the HTC One looks better than the XZ. And better Dev support on the Sony? Please.
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I will see how much the 64gb is on contract.

barondebxl said:
I'm sorry but the HTC One looks better than the XZ. And better Dev support on the Sony? Please.
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Like I said, to me it looks better, no sense in arguing about taste
HTC is famous for being late with the release of kernel source and when they do it is often in a non compilable state, Sony is quicker and better in this respect .
Saying things like "please" isn't an argument.

stefanve said:
Like I said, to me it looks better, no sense in arguing about taste
HTC is famous for being late with the release of kernel source and when they do it is often in a non compilable state, Sony is quicker and better in this respect .
Saying things like "please" isn't an argument.
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It looks better to you is cool but to say sony will roll out updates sooner and better Dev support is funny.
HTC has a large Dev community, LARGE. Mike 1986 is a known HTC guy, and we all know him. And its just one guy that I'm mentioning. This argument about release of kernel source is what you sony guys keep talking about, yet all previous Sony devices aren't relevant today.
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exactly!!! not quite happy with HTC dev support

barondebxl said:
It comes in 32 and 64 gig options. Need more than 64 gig, get a laptop.
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There is no such thing as too much space in a multimedia capable device.
To OP: I can't believe you think that anyone cares.

redThd said:
There is no such thing as too much space in a multimedia capable device.
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Who said too much space? If you cant live with 64 gig then get a laptop with 320 gig or an external hard drive and use Skype to make calls.
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HTC One is a stunning device.
#1 device of 2013.
Sonys Z is suddenly last years tech already lol. Huge failure.

barondebxl said:
It looks better to you is cool but to say sony will roll out updates sooner and better Dev support is funny.
HTC has a large Dev community, LARGE. Mike 1986 is a known HTC guy, and we all know him. And its just one guy that I'm mentioning. This argument about release of kernel source is what you sony guys keep talking about, yet all previous Sony devices aren't relevant today.
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I guess it is where you after for most post xperia X10 devices you can get nightlies from CM. and the free xperia guys are doing excellent work to make that happen. You are able to get Android 4.2 on your arc (early 2011) possibly older devices as well, but I don't know as I don't have one. If you count the number of cooked roms it might be less than the one x but that doesn't say anything

Ok finally made my decision! HTC One great!!!!!!!! Non removeable battery? Ok rejected! Sticking with Xperia ZL now once and for all!

Maedhros said:
HTC One is a stunning device.
#1 device of 2013.
Sonys Z is suddenly last years tech already lol. Huge failure.
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once again to late to the party

stefanve said:
I guess it is where you after for most post xperia X10 devices you can get nightlies from CM. and the free xperia guys are doing excellent work. You are able to get Android 4.2 on your arc (early 2011) possibly older devices as well, but I don't know as I don't have one. If you count the number of cooked roms it might be less than the one x but that doesn't say anything
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That doesn't say anything?? Really? I call it larger Dev support.
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Maedhros said:
HTC One is a stunning device.
#1 device of 2013.
Sonys Z is suddenly last years tech already lol. Huge failure.
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There is always something better around the corner. I wasn't expecting the Xperia Z to stay on top anyway.

stefanve said:
I guess it is where you after for most post xperia X10 devices you can get nightlies from CM. and the free xperia guys are doing excellent work to make that happen. You are able to get Android 4.2 on your arc (early 2011) possibly older devices as well, but I don't know as I don't have one. If you count the number of cooked roms it might be less than the one x but that doesn't say anything
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Yes, but many HTC Devices have jellybean too. My DHD has jellybean and it is a 3 year old device.
PLUS the Chinese HTC Scene is huge.
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once again to late to the party
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Unfortunately, and by all accounts the M7 leaves the Z far behind. A superior screen, Camera, Sound Quality and Loudness, not to mention build quality.
I don't see why anyone would purchase a Sony handset unless they are a fanboy, in which case it would be pointless arguing with an irrational person.