Upgrade from Arc S? - Xperia Arc General

Hey guys, looking for some advice. I bought an arc s about 4 months ago to replace my dying x10i and I've been very happy with it, however it's starting to feel a bit dated and I don't know what would be a good upgrade. I have an excellent sim only contract so would like to buy a handset upfront, but I don't want to spend silly money.
I have installed ics and really like the experience, however the occasional lag is quite annoying. I think I just want a decent handset with more ram really, but I think a galaxy s2 would be equally dated in another 4 months.
I just bought an iPad 3 and really enjoy how nippy it is, I've been considering moving over to iPhone for my next phone..lout would have to wait and see what comes out this fall.
I dunno....maybe I just need to be patient but though I would check I'm not missing some super secret , perfect phone I haven't seen yet! Would. A Sony Xperia P be a good replacement for an arc s? Seems almost the same specs but double the ram... Thoughts?

Well as you are now forever locked into Apple as a single hardware supplier for your tablet, are you prepared to buy separate apps for your phone?
If so, then I would look at the Xperia S... If you aren't, then sell your iPad3, buy a decent Android tablet and a Xperia S.

My brother purchased an iphone4, i asked him if he new he would be restricted with apps, roms and hardware, he said yes its not a problem for him. Hes now wanting to be shot of it, every update destroys his jailbreak and it eats into his time putting it back again. In short he now wishes he hadn't gone down the apple route, although both he and i agree its a nice bit of kit just a bit restricted if you like fiddling and playing with software i guess. Each to their own i suppose. I think his main gripe is with the constant use of i tunes software for his films and movies. I rather like the look of that new hyabusa ? Very much Arc looking but slightly more updated specs, not sure it will be near top of the pops still when its launched here but that's never really bothered me as long as it does what i want it too alls good and rosey. More ram and dual core with a bigger screen will have to see how it sits in the hand. I picked up the SGS II last year and for me it didnt feel good in the hand so left it there i know my arc isnt bleeding edge far from it, butt eh screen is decent and it is comfortable, hope the hyabusa feels the same just hope it doesnt come with too high a price tag.

Well I'm quite happy with the stock ipad experience and quite happy to do the majority of my app purchases for gaming etc on that platform.
For my mobile, I don't play games or watch movies often... It's mostly Facebook, messaging, browsing etc. I know I could make do with a midrange phone for that but I like to be upto date and have a fast user experience. The xperia s feels a little too big when I've used it and I worry it will be the usual Sony affair and not be as fast as it should be with those specs.
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I saw the reworked arc s, harabusa or however it's spelt heh. That would be perfect but no idea when I could get one or how much it will be
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jomil said:
The xperia s feels a little too big when I've used it and I worry it will be the usual Sony affair and not be as fast as it should be with those specs.
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Well I don't have an Xperia S, but I have played with a entry level XPeria U, and it's Lightening fast, so much faster than my Xperia ARC S, which seems to be hobbled by too little RAM.

If you are a woman who has no time or need for Android development, who has no idea about hardware and wants something stable, buy your iPhone now and never look back... Android will not satisfy you, Xperia S, NXT whatnot ....
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Bushmaster78FS said:
If you are a woman who has no time or need for Android development, who has no idea about hardware and wants something stable, buy your iPhone now and never look back... Android will not satisfy you, Xperia S, NXT whatnot ....
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Errr okay, I'm not a woman. Thanks for that sexist comment though. I love tinkering with android and really don't see the point in having an iPad AND an iPhone, it's nice to have the best of both. All I'm concerned about is getting a decent upgrade which will last me.
How can it be that the Xperia U is faster than the S? That's not reassuring...often phones feel nippy when new and nothing installed. Or maybe the S will improve with ICS? I am considering getting an S as I could grab one for around £200

jomil said:
Errr okay, I'm not a woman. Thanks for that sexist comment though. I love tinkering with android and really don't see the point in having an iPad AND an iPhone, it's nice to have the best of both. All I'm concerned about is getting a decent upgrade which will last me.
How can it be that the Xperia U is faster than the S? That's not reassuring...often phones feel nippy when new and nothing installed. Or maybe the S will improve with ICS? I am considering getting an S as I could grab one for around £200
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The remark is basically inspired from what I have seen with my wife... She's a technology illiterate and iPhone did the trick for her. She had a decent android phone which basically "never worked right", regardless of updates etc. IPhone is a dumbed down version of android with no possibility to customize, with pretty eye candy, sold at a premium price ... IPad is the big brother... You catch my drift ... I just can't believe you spent money on an iPad ... But that's just me and nothing personal ...
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no problems fella. I just spent the last few hours unlocking my bootloader, changing the baseband, flashing a new kernel and loading arconium v2 onto my Arc S. Feeling pretty smug as I haven't done anything more than root a phone before... the phone is truely flying! Should last me another few months now.
Hurrah!

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How can it be that the Xperia U is faster than the S? That's not reassuring...
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Sorry, typo, missed out the ARC bit..
The Xperia U feels REALLY fast compared to my ARC S
But then it's got a low-res display, so it's less for the GPU to drive, perhaps???? It's also Gingerbread not ICS....

jomil said:
no problems fella. I just spent the last few hours unlocking my bootloader, changing the baseband, flashing a new kernel and loading arconium v2 onto my Arc S. Feeling pretty smug as I haven't done anything more than root a phone before... the phone is truely flying! Should last me another few months now.
Hurrah!
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I suggest you to try JJHIBRID ROM. I was about to sell my arc S but when I tried this rom, I decided it will be good for another half a year.
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CrazyPeter said:
Sorry, typo, missed out the ARC bit..
The Xperia U feels REALLY fast compared to my ARC S
But then it's got a low-res display, so it's less for the GPU to drive, perhaps???? It's also Gingerbread not ICS....
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You know ARC S Rocks! too with GB

Bushmaster78FS said:
If you are a woman who has no time or need for Android development, who has no idea about hardware and wants something stable, buy your iPhone now and never look back... Android will not satisfy you, Xperia S, NXT whatnot ....
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That was down right sexist. Don't judge the whole mankind by one example. I'm a girl and would never sell my soul to the devil (read: Apple). Love Linux (Mint) and Android, and I'm quite an average ROM and kernel flasher.
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I suggest you to try JJHIBRID ROM. I was about to sell my arc S but when I tried this rom, I decided it will be good for another half a year.
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JJ's Hybrid ROM 3.2 was a fresh new beginning for my S-less arc. I'm not your average rich person who changes phones every 2 weeks, but I wouldn't even think about selling my arc if it wasn't for the super bad quality of the housing (cracks, etc.).
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No it wasn't sexist... .... It is not only one example that runs blind behind the stupid iphone bandwagon... Did you miss the pink otter boxes being sold everywhere for that precious iphone? You are or seem to be an exception...
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Bushmaster78FS said:
No it wasn't sexist... .... It is not only one example that runs blind behind the stupid iphone bandwagon... Did you miss the pink otter boxes being sold everywhere for that precious iphone? You are or seem to be an exception...
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Um, I happen to see more guys with iCrappers than girls in my country.
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sunbriel said:
Um, I happen to see more guys with iCrappers than girls in my country.
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Lol we are talking about an exceptional country here...
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Bushmaster78FS said:
Lol we are talking about an exceptional country here...
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I see more Samsungs and HTCs, with a bit of Sony (Ericsson) here and there. Apple might aim the female buyers, but it's far from being woman's only phone-friend. And I see you're from the States - the weird part of the world full of parents who buy their 4 yo an iCrapper to play with. I've always found US Americans super weird people.
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Truth be told I know plenty of guys, in military, flying attack helicopters, and drooling over iphones... Best they could do is jailbreak it and change the toolbar color... Whoop de doo... I played with my wife's 3gs... Simplified crap. I merely have Sony because all I own consumer electronics wise is Sony... Arc is an ok phone. But even with ion they are behind the power curve... If I were you I'd use that arc with their latest GB... Heck come up 250 bucks I can sell you my arc S. They fixed the Crack issue with arc S... Mine is brand new though
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Just to let you all know, I bought a galaxy s3 lol will let you know how much I like it!
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May be getting offerd a new contract due to the faults on my x10 - what phone?

Well being on my second handset and having serious problems the that even the shop cannot get sony to sort out [virtually un usable reboots + overheating] I may be getting offered a new contract if they can rather than a 3rd x10. What would you go for? UK - Orange, thinking desire HD. Love my x10 appart from all the problems with my un-luckiness but never mind will be glad to be rid of the problems
Desire HD is great, but everybody sais that the battery last only for a half day. If I were you I would get a Nexus S or a Galaxy S (maybe Desire Z)
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Dont think they have it in phones4u yet
go3asy said:
Dont think they have it in phones4u yet
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To tell the truth I don't really know the possibilities in thr UK, all I know is that you can buy it, but maybe not at orange
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Desire HD or Nexus S :-D
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One of the nexus phones or Desire HD. Or that moto droid 2 global. Dunno if moto will update it though
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Well being on my second handset and having serious problems the that even the shop cannot get sony to sort out [virtually un usable reboots + overheating] I may be getting offered a new contract if they can rather than a 3rd x10. What would you go for? UK - Orange, thinking desire HD. Love my x10 appart from all the problems with my un-luckiness but never mind will be glad to be rid of the problems
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4G capable.
Anything not maunfactured by Sony Ericsson.
Do you think you could get a short term phone.. and then arc?
I think stock android is extremely ugly. And also, the Nexus S isn't exactly a looker... might be hard to adjust from the X10
I say wait for the Arc
I think you'd have to be retarded to buy an arc personally.. after seeing how they do business.
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I think you'd have to be retarded to buy an arc personally.. after seeing how they do business.
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Agree 100%
better to get Galaxy S . HTC's service is good but i didn't like most of their smartphones i bought (Pure - HD - Diamond ) And they have a bad signal and battery doesn't last long.
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I think you'd have to be retarded to buy an arc personally.. after seeing how they do business.
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Couldn't agree with you more. I actually went through X1, X2 and X10 before I woke up.
You won't have to worry about buying the Arc anyway. It will be released 6-9 months late like every other SE "flagship".
augie7107 said:
Couldn't agree with you more. I actually went through X1, X2 and X10 before I woke up.
You won't have to worry about buying the Arc anyway. It will be released 6-9 months late like every other SE "flagship".
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kinda long wait but i might say it will come out till 2.3 gets old
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I think stock android is extremely ugly. And also, the Nexus S isn't exactly a looker... might be hard to adjust from the X10
I say wait for the Arc
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I actually think the blue SE skin looks dreadful.
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I also think you should go for the Arc at least i am. I have been extremely happy with the X10 and dont really care about SE Updates being late as all i care is being able to mod it and have devs supporting it. All the people complaining from SE are just ...idk you decide, just look at all other companies Apple, Samsung, Htc they all have their own problems just look in their forums and see the same story..people screaming f..k Samsung never again f...k Htc etc.. I really do a lot and i mean alot of research before i buy a phone and let me tell you the x10 suited me alot more than a galaxy s or a desire or an iphone and ive had the galaxy s (just horrible phone...fast but unreliable plastic garbage so i said never Samsung) and i still have an iphone 4 well my wife does..that phone is so limited its not even funny..anyway all im saying is do not listen to never SE again and etc.. SE have been making nothing but great reliable devices. Now the Arc is coming with the latest software so i dont think you should worry about any updates soon and plus x10 has a very good comunity here and i beleive the Arc will also and it will probably be the same people that own the x10 and more. Do your research and see what you like and what you want to do with the phone, remember its what you like not someone else.
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I think you'd have to be retarded to buy an arc personally.. after seeing how they do business.
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I think they are changing their strategy.. they admitted that they went about the X10 series in the wrong way.. I'm going to wait for the Q2 flagship, which should be a dualcore with ffc(not that i need one) but it will be a lot snappier I hope
pngface said:
I think they are changing their strategy.. they admitted that they went about the X10 series in the wrong way.. I'm going to wait for the Q2 flagship, which should be a dualcore with ffc(not that i need one) but it will be a lot snappier I hope
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By saying "We know we made mistakes..... butttt we aren't going to do anything about it", they are simply trying to convince previous customers this experience will be better, while at the same time winning over new customers who might have heard bad things about the x10, et al.
Just a lame marketing ploy. Now, if they were willing to actually step up and at least give us froyo, I, for one, would change my tune greatly.
I would be telling my friends to get the arc instead of the opposite (as I do love my x10, thanks to the community on here.), as I just hate the way sony ericsson choose to do business.
The Arc looks so good, I'm willing to forgive any of SE's sins
One device I'd really like to have in the interim is a Desire Z. 1.8Ghz baby
The Desire Z (T-mobile G2) is almost universally considered to be a good device. Better battery life than Desire HD i think. LOTS of developer support.
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Anything not maunfactured by Sony Ericsson.
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Too right, never getting an SE phone again.
Nexus is my next phone... in 23 months lol :|

Felt good about the X10 today!

I was at a meeting today, the guy next to me had the HTC Evo 4G, looked like a sweet phone, but in the 2 hour meeting the guy had to take the battery out FIVE times because the phone froze on him. In the year I have owned my X10 I have had to do that twice that I can recall. Made me feel pretty good about my trusty x10! Just thought I'd share given all the *****ing about our phone sometimes
That's why I love my phone. Never had any problem with it. Specially now that there's a lot of custom rom out there.
well, after all seems there`s no reason for battery complain
is right where it should be, in battery case
didn`t you tease with the guy? i would!
The X10 is very stable, even with mods.
But the EVO isn't bad, too. Wish they'd sell it here, too. Want at it as my second phone xD
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Since I got my X10 last July, I never ever had to remove the battery for any other reason. Never hang or freeze on me yet, knock on wood! He! He!
Hey guys,
I just sold my HD2 and with the money i bought a brand new x10. I deceided to post a thank-you-all-for-the-support-post at their sub forum and they almost ate me alive. I was called crazy etc, now since i received the brand new package and that i have spent almost 3-4 days of heavy usage i can say honestly the following:
1. From the design point of view the device is awesome, fne and classy.
2. The OS is stable and the harware works just great.
3. From the camera point of view there is not much to compare, actually comparing the cameras of HTC and Sony is pretty insulting i guess.
4. The headphones from the pack are great
So anybody can feel free to diss X10, i can say that the phone is great and i do not regret selling the HD2 for this Sony masterpiece.
I feel sorry for two guys: the owner of the HTC Evo and the guy whom opened a thread asking for opinions about X10, but at the end he will get a Samsung (fa)i(l)Phone Galaxy
F*ck the negativity, f*ck SE's decision, f*ck bootloader, X10 rules!!!
X10 is even cooler than ARC
Hi,
From the design point of view (phone sleeping!) I think that the front-view of X10 is way more balanced than XPERIA ARC. Have you noticed the distance between the top of the screen and the top of the heady phone?
OK, ARC is thin on the side-view but phones do not "walk like the Egyptians"
I would expect that the follow-up on X10 would be something like the attached picture... I love the visual balance of the X10.
Bye,
Alex
roaringhere said:
Since I got my X10 last July, I never ever had to remove the battery for any other reason. Never hang or freeze on me yet, knock on wood! He! He!
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Same for me, I dun have such problem after using my X10 compared to my previous HTC devices.
The user experience for X10 is simply great, SE has done a good job.
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I must be just unlucky then, I've had to remove the battery loads and the phone keeps restarting. As I write this I'm preparing my phone to send it for repair.
shaunbu said:
I must be just unlucky then, I've had to remove the battery loads and the phone keeps restarting. As I write this I'm preparing my phone to send it for repair.
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just because U installed custom Rom or didn't update properly. Bad luck for U. But it worth to try that U backup everything ( but no the downloaded from market), hard resest. and try to repair by SEUS. Then if U have 0.24 or 0.435 build, everything shuold work fine
I'm gonna cheat on my X10 with the Arc......does that make me horrible? Lol
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last time i did this with symbian phones
The problem with the arc or any new phone is all the bugs. Honestly how much better is the arc to the x10 ?
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enrique71 said:
The problem with the arc or any new phone is all the bugs. Honestly how much better is the arc to the x10 ?
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Well I can't not purchase a new phone being affraid of what bugs it might bring right?
I'm certain the arc is alot better than the x10....only time will tell.
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Don't get why previous X10 owners wants to get out and buy another SE android device. After the way they treated you with this device. Im not going back to a SE device next time I'll go out for a new smartphone.
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arkedk said:
Don't get why previous X10 owners wants to get out and buy another SE android device. After the way they treated you with this device. Im not going back to a SE device next time I'll go out for a new smartphone.
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Its simple....because some people actually like/love there X10's (myself included) and I do not care about SE and anything they have said. The boys here at XDA have us covered.
The Arc has everything I want in a smartphone....so why wouldn't I buy it? Its fits my needs better than any HTC, Samsung, Motorolla, etc etc.
I don't care about dual core this and dual core that...I don't care about "retina display"
I don't care about my phone having the highest specs possible when released...because in reality, it will be outdated in a month anyways.
SE never promised or said they would give us 2.2+...they have given us what they said they would (except DLNA...bad bad boys for that)
Anyways, I think you understand what Im trying to say...just because your not happy with SE, doesn't mean everyone else feels the same.
Oh...and don't take anything I said "offensive" or "personal"....I wasn't being rude or aggresive
Just thought Id add that before I start a war lol
Yeah youre right but SE does one thing better then all other Android Phones, the Style. The UI and Phone Style is very good i think no other Android Phone looks that good. Atleast this Time they launch the Phone on latest Android Version so its already one good step forward^^ And i dont think they will again do the same like with X10. But i buyed the X10 becouse of the Design most. I could have taken a Desire too but i didnt liked the Style i only liked the newer Android Version, everyone likes other things but for me stock Android is very ugly and alot of Android Phones too. Gingerbread is not that ugly but still not that good.
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Yeah youre right but SE does one thing better then all other Android Phones, the Style. The UI and Phone Style is very good i think no other Android Phone looks that good. Atleast this Time they launch the Phone on latest Android Version so its already one good step forward^^ And i dont think they will again do the same like with X10. But i buyed the X10 becouse of the Design most. I could have taken a Desire too but i didnt liked the Style i only liked the newer Android Version, everyone likes other things but for me stock Android is very ugly and alot of Android Phones too. Gingerbread is not that ugly but still not that good.
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+1 for that my friend. SE ui is extremely nice to look at. And the phone styles they create are excellent. I don't think they will be late with updating anymore. I'm sure they learned....and the hard way....they were blasted from all over the globe lol.
The Arc is launching with the newest android os....so that's one step in the right direction right from the start. But if the arc was launching with even froyo....I'd still be on board to buy this phone. I'm not to picky when it comes to android os versions.....well as long as its not lower than 2.1.
PS. I'm actually using you cm rom v4.1 right now....excellent work man....tho I like your old ui without the arc style better.
Best 2.2 rom I've tried tho.
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I pass from iPhone 4 to X10, no complain about it, only the lack of INSTAGRAM, I also have a Samsung Galaxy tab and Exchange email capability is the only one thing better than X10! Both devices are Telcel now unbranded!
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{Resolved...please close thread}[Suggestions Please] New phone for teenage daughter

Hello all,
My teenage daughter has been pestering for a blackberry, but I have managed to convince her an android phone is better
Now here is the point. I want a contract (About £20 -£25 a month max) on vodafone...what is the best to get.....
You know me, even though it will be my daughters I will be playing with it, rooting, flashing etc...
I can see xperia ray for £20.50 with tripple minutes on offer...but I am not to sure about other, non sony, makes...
I do like SE but would be happy to experiment...
Please list the suggestions and why I should go with it
I'm not sure if she'll be happy when you will be playing on her phone
But I think a XPERIA Ray is a good choice, it's goodlooking for girls.
Beside that, I know a few girls that have got a SGS2, and are absolutely loving it. They love the thin design of the phone the most. I'm not sure about the prices you could get the phone for in your country, but if it's possible you could ask her if she wants the SGS2.
It's just a advice without knowing exactly what she (or you) want to buy for her. What is the max. size the phone should be? Is there any limit? I would recommend to not get a phone with a screen bigger then 4.3inch, except for the Galaxy Nexus. But that one will be too expensive I guess Does she prefer any colour?
I'd be glad to help you, if you answer my two questions
Absolutely no other requirements....she wont mind me playing with it cos she knows I can get the good stuff on it for her and make it look good.
So, its what I can get her with the best possibility of me having a play with a new phone really...
I want her to have a decent camera (SE looks good here), good memory, fast (She likes games, like angry birds, cut the rope etc), good sound (So i dont have to replace her i(diot)pod), thats about it.....it will be hers, but I want to flash!!!!
Greg,arc s is a good choice mate =)
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Greg,arc s is a good choice mate =)
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why....sell it to me like you needed the sale..
If you'd go for the camera, you should choose the XPERIA Ray in my opinion. It has great sensors. Games like that will run easily on this phone, BUT the rooting part. This phone doesn't have many development going on. I don't think it will be the right choice if you'd like to mod the phone...
Personally I'd not go for any HTC phone... Why? I think their designs look like some kind of old bald fridge lol!
The phones I'd recommend you, without being a fanboy are:
Samsung:
- SGS2
- SGS Plus (you should watch some reviews about the camera, I'm not sure about it...)
- Galaxy Nexus, if possible within the price limit
Sony:
- XPERIA Ray, just simple and beautiful...
- XPERIA Mini (Pro)?
- XPERIA Arc (S)? This one is big, but much easier to typ etc...
HTC:
This is the hardest part of all, you may like the design. The phone I'd recommend here is the HTC Sensation/HTC Sensation XE?
You could also get the Desire S? I personally would go for a Samsung/Sony Ericsson one.
Motorola:
None, had bad experiences with this brand... Same as with LG...
LG:
One of the worst manufacturers for mobile phones. Same as with Motorola. I think these brands are just focused money, and not any other thing.
I personally own the SGS2, and I must say, the camera is good, not the best... But it's for sure OK. I'm not aware of any other (maybe) good phone.
If you'd get a phone, you should mostly read reviews, and decide by yourself, before you blame anyone for giving your daughter (and you?) a bad phone.
Again, for modding take a Samsung or HTC device.
This is my advice, any additions from others are welcome.
A very good response.
Of course I will decide myself and not blame anyone here for advice
Thanks for telling me the ray doesnt have much development....
I will wait to see what others say
Forgot to tell you, try visiting with your daughter a local phone shop, like The Phone House or w/e. I don't life in your country, so I'm not aware of the stores out there. Visit a phone shop, ask for advice, maybe get a hands-on on some devices! In shops here, there are many show models of the newest smartphones.
Any question left? Feel free to ask
http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mo...tworks=&tariffContract=&gift=&clearance=false
htc desire s good spec 1gb iterbal front camera and everyones favourite htc sense widgets £15.50 a month
HTC phones have awesome build quality actually, and really nice slcd displays.
Incredible s is a great phone, as is desire s... Both definitely very cheap and good choices.
Sgs2 is awesome of course.
Sensation.
Ray is actually nicely built, and has a great display. Could use more ram imo and the screen is too small for me. Nice phone though.
Did you see the HTC bliss? Its purple and made for girls..
There are a lot of choices, lots of sales this time of year too
Arc s has a good camera,iPhone 4s stole the specs from it.decent battery life,is a nice looking phone and easy to root etc. Similar to x10
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bodomfan said:
Arc s has a good camera,iPhone 4s stole the specs from it.decent battery life,is a nice looking phone and easy to root etc. Similar to x10
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not enough ram imo..
Also why not just buy the arc and overclock it yourself? It would be cheaper and literally the same thing.
The arc does suffer from poor build quality though, id get the ray or neo first actually.
Htc phones have bad build quality unless you get a top spec 1 but sense is ugly
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Htc phones have bad build quality unless you get a top spec 1 but sense is ugly
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nope, build quality is way better than plasticy se imo...
Sense is ugly? Lol
Way nicer than uxp with the dock bar that takes up half the screen lol
Also at least it's functional. Timescape is useless
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sorry to threadjack, the rabid fanboyism just gets to me...
Good phones are good phones, regardless of "brand loyalty"..
I gave several responses, including se ones.
I like phones, not brand names. I never got this commercialist perspective where you back a brand like it's a favorite sports team or something.
I'm no fanboy Scooby,but yea I like Samsung,Sony for android,tried htc can't get into them dunno why
Oh and the arc s is actually cheaper than the arc so the overclocking thing youvsaid don't make sense mate
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bodomfan said:
I'm no fanboy Scooby,but yea I like Samsung,Sony for android,tried htc can't get into them dunno why
Oh and the arc s is actually cheaper than the arc so the overclocking thing youvsaid don't make sense mate
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it isn't here :S it's pretty expensive!
I find HTC just uses metal and stuff, I can understand not liking sense but their build quality really is spectacular even if you find the designs bland..
I was pleasently surprised by sgs2, it's plasticy but can take a beating. I saw a few drop tests
Yea true,I want galaxy s2 next.arc is more than arc s here weird
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You playing with ur teenagers phone?
I can see the battle coming
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How about a HTC rhyme
It is a pretty piece , the girl version of HTC Desire S
Very neat hardware , good to experiment
Or xperia neo v
Good camera , pretty cheap
I would not recommend ray
The display is not great
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How about a HTC rhyme
It is a pretty piece , the girl version of HTC Desire S
Very neat hardware , good to experiment
Or xperia neo v
Good camera , pretty cheap
I would not recommend ray
The display is not great
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do you mean size wise not great?
I saw one in the TELUS store and it looked amazing. It's smaller with a high resolution therefore high pixel density..
Reviews often praise the display

Xperia Arc S or HTC Sensation XL ?

Hey guys!
I'm planning to buy a new phone in 2 weeks ..
I'm confused between these two .. Xperia Arc S and Sensation XL ..
Any recommendations or guidance from the users of these phones
What i like about the XL :
Massive 4.7" screen
Easier to touch-type
Beats audio
What i like about the Arc S :
Sharper screen (233 ppi) despite the small size (4.3"), comparing to the XL's 4.7" and (199 ppi)
The cool looks !
The upcoming official ICS will look great on the that phone
Both processors are fast .. 1.4 and 1.5
Taking into account that I lOVE the new ICS look and i'd love to have it on my next phone .. While i can only have it on the Arc S because of CM support .. And i don't know how to get that look on the Sensation XL because of the lack of suport and the too little ROMs availablity
By what you said, get Arc S, or wait a little more for Xperia S. Both will get ICS until june. Arc S is going to get stable CM9 soon, and I'm sure there will be some guys from FreeXperiaTeam (who work with CM in 2011 Xperia devices) working ASAP on Xperia S.
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You ask that question in an Xperia Arc forum? Are you dumb or something?
i had just pick up an arc a month ago..i just take it primarily because of it good looks other than that sony promise of official ice cream samndwish and a remote chance that the arc get Playstation store outside of japan..
but i don't see if both arc and sensation gonna be relevent by the 3rq quarters of this year.as i change phone every year, the arc fits the time frame..but if u wanna kept your phone lots longer, get a dual core
I'd say Arc S
Has a micro sd slot which the XL doesn't have.
If the XL had dualcore I'd go with that but it hasn't and 100Mhz are no difference.
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+1 to arcS... HTC is too expancive... What are you paying for? Half of inch? Wright question is arcS or Sensation XE... Dual core, great display, Beats Audio... And looks great to. I would prefer SE because I am a BIG fan of it... And you can go to the store, take both of them in yor hands and decide...
Seems like the Arc S is a winner for me. The charisma and charm of this phone is irresistible. However, I'm considering the upcoming Xperia S too .. Just Hoping it won't be too expensive
this HTC comes with a internal 16G memory and 768 MB ram - these are more critical factors for performance. correct me if i am wrong?
Ok, RAM is a big plus.
But for me the 16GB non-expandable memory (?) are too less, so no-go. I have ~23GB on my phone.
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Arc S - easy choice for me.. the Sensation XL is a big ugly brick!.. or if you want to wait till end of March - Xperia S - I'd wait!
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Arc S - easy choice for me.. the Sensation XL is a big ugly brick!.. or if you want to wait till end of March - Xperia S - I'd wait!
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That's exactly what I'm planning for
Go for galaxy s2
Its the best!(till now)
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Go for galaxy s2
Its the best!(till now)
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Yes, till now. But after Sony XPERIA S comes out... I don't think so!
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Yes, till now. But after Sony XPERIA S comes out... I don't think so!
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I read somewhere, and it has been an "aaaaah yeah..." moment for me,
that we shouldn't compare SE phones with Samsung and HTC phones.
They are not at all about the hardware or the Android version.
They fill in the gap between the people who are hardcore users and spec enthusiasts and those who have no idea about smartphones.
They are targetting people who are OK with having a really beautiful phone, advanced camera function and good hardware, not necessarily top-of-the-top.
And even though XDA forums are normally not a place for such people, you can't deny the very existense of such target group.
Seeing it like this, you can understand why they haven't joined the hardware race that Samsung and HTC are running atm.
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Yes, till now. But after Sony XPERIA S comes out... I don't think so!
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Yes until the gs3 comes out then once again samsung goes back on top
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I read somewhere, and it has been an "aaaaah yeah..." moment for me,
that we shouldn't compare SE phones with Samsung and HTC phones.
They are not at all about the hardware or the Android version.
They fill in the gap between the people who are hardcore users and spec enthusiasts and those who have no idea about smartphones.
They are targetting people who are OK with having a really beautiful phone, advanced camera function and good hardware, not necessarily top-of-the-top.
And even though XDA forums are normally not a place for such people, you can't deny the very existense of such target group.
Seeing it like this, you can understand why they haven't joined the hardware race that Samsung and HTC are running atm.
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Thumbs up, dude
I'd wait for the new line. but if you're in haste i'd take Arc S or Galaxy Note depending on the price ofcourse.
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I'd wait for the new line. but if you're in haste i'd take Arc S or Galaxy Note depending on the price ofcourse.
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I was tempted by Note because of it's size and power etc. as I could eventually get one for free,
but this device is NOT impressive.
The screen - again - looks like oversaturated **** and the UI is actually disgusting.
I quit after 5 minutes of playing with it.
BTW the performance when just fiddling with it was actually mediocre.
Xperia S is worth wait, as far I have seen after AOSP Sony has one of the best UI and they aren't in the race for great hardware spec like other which just made Dual core devices without software support for it. Sony waited to release dual core when it's necessary i.e. As far as I know ICS is optimized for Dual core. So when they started rolling out ICS update they started to make dual core devices. But if you looking to brag about the spec then sure go for SGS 3 that might out
My 2 cents

Xperia Mint - HD Display, 1.5Ghz S4... looks nice

Just sharing. As of late I feel that Sony's phones seem way behind the competition. But by the looks of things this phone looks nice and seems to have some power behind it....
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/26/sony-xperia-mint-lt30p/
And...to me.. I really like the clean look. Would I give up my Xperia PLAY for that...hell no.
Meh. If Sony can release a flagship phone for the US, it might be worth a damn.
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I get the bad feeling that this will be one of those silly US only phones >_<
Sony dropped the ball long ago. The play is my last Sony phone. There's just so much better options now a days.
Support for the play didn't even last 1 year, my money is to important to throw it at a company who isn't in for the long run.
Buying into Sony these days is like buying into rim. A costly error when you can do so much better.
I hate to say it but this is a throw away market, problem is some companies treat there customers the same way.
why sony didn't give us ics:
it is not for touchpad support as they already got that fixed.
it is about the gaming performance.
i have contact with a sony dev and he said: game developers wouldn't update the games with touchpad support for ics, because they don't earn enough money from xperia play users. as i completely undertstand that because this is a game phone.
now people says: why doesn't give sony us something else as compromise? they do! they are helping the freexperia group with fixing things and they see what they can do else (with fxp) for ous
If we ever get Jellybean for our "Play" and gaming comes back... then can we question Sony for their lack of support?? I agree that it is not just about the gamepads and that ICS isnt as smooth as GB was for gaming, but now what do Xperia Play owners do? We must stay with GB basically outdating our phones(by far). I know its not all Sonys fault but we lose more then them seeing how we paid for our phone. Jellybean=working games & touchpads....what do you think?
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Looks cool, if Verizon gets it they'll just ship it with their own old locked version of Android.
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i cant really unterstand what people have against the play. mine runs very smooth with custom rom. Gaming is good(i mostly care for emulators) and the overall expirience is good. My girlfriend got a S2(as i did 1 year ago) and i dont want to trade. I just love the gamepad.
The camera is not that good and the ram could be more but thats the only complain i do have now...
Motawa88 said:
i cant really unterstand what people have against the play. mine runs very smooth with custom rom. Gaming is good(i mostly care for emulators) and the overall expirience is good. My girlfriend got a S2(as i did 1 year ago) and i dont want to trade. I just love the gamepad.
The camera is not that good and the ram could be more but thats the only complain i do have now...
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I don't think people dislike the play. But are grumpy because it kinda flopped in the market. And there's multiple things that caused it too.
But that's what xda is for, to make the best of it. And yes I like it for the game pad, the phone itself may only be middle of performance vs other Android phones but whatever.
Wow, definitely considering this device now, If its announced at IFA the Xperia s will ultimately be dumped as the flag ship.
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Just sharing. As of late I feel that Sony's phones seem way behind the competition. But by the looks of things this phone looks nice and seems to have some power behind it....
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/26/sony-xperia-mint-lt30p/
And...to me.. I really like the clean look. Would I give up my Xperia PLAY for that...hell no.
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It is kinda nice looking, I like the smooth simple design. But your right, giving up my play for anything else is pretty much not gonna happen.
I will re house my phone once a year before I get another device!
Motawa88 said:
i cant really unterstand what people have against the play. mine runs very smooth with custom rom. Gaming is good(i mostly care for emulators) and the overall expirience is good. My girlfriend got a S2(as i did 1 year ago) and i dont want to trade. I just love the gamepad.
The camera is not that good and the ram could be more but thats the only complain i do have now...
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I would say the camera is pretty decent actually

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