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Upgrade from Arc S?

Hey guys, looking for some advice. I bought an arc s about 4 months ago to replace my dying x10i and I've been very happy with it, however it's starting to feel a bit dated and I don't know what would be a good upgrade. I have an excellent sim only contract so would like to buy a handset upfront, but I don't want to spend silly money.
I have installed ics and really like the experience, however the occasional lag is quite annoying. I think I just want a decent handset with more ram really, but I think a galaxy s2 would be equally dated in another 4 months.
I just bought an iPad 3 and really enjoy how nippy it is, I've been considering moving over to iPhone for my next phone..lout would have to wait and see what comes out this fall.
I dunno....maybe I just need to be patient but though I would check I'm not missing some super secret , perfect phone I haven't seen yet! Would. A Sony Xperia P be a good replacement for an arc s? Seems almost the same specs but double the ram... Thoughts?

Well as you are now forever locked into Apple as a single hardware supplier for your tablet, are you prepared to buy separate apps for your phone?
If so, then I would look at the Xperia S... If you aren't, then sell your iPad3, buy a decent Android tablet and a Xperia S.

My brother purchased an iphone4, i asked him if he new he would be restricted with apps, roms and hardware, he said yes its not a problem for him. Hes now wanting to be shot of it, every update destroys his jailbreak and it eats into his time putting it back again. In short he now wishes he hadn't gone down the apple route, although both he and i agree its a nice bit of kit just a bit restricted if you like fiddling and playing with software i guess. Each to their own i suppose. I think his main gripe is with the constant use of i tunes software for his films and movies. I rather like the look of that new hyabusa ? Very much Arc looking but slightly more updated specs, not sure it will be near top of the pops still when its launched here but that's never really bothered me as long as it does what i want it too alls good and rosey. More ram and dual core with a bigger screen will have to see how it sits in the hand. I picked up the SGS II last year and for me it didnt feel good in the hand so left it there i know my arc isnt bleeding edge far from it, butt eh screen is decent and it is comfortable, hope the hyabusa feels the same just hope it doesnt come with too high a price tag.

Well I'm quite happy with the stock ipad experience and quite happy to do the majority of my app purchases for gaming etc on that platform.
For my mobile, I don't play games or watch movies often... It's mostly Facebook, messaging, browsing etc. I know I could make do with a midrange phone for that but I like to be upto date and have a fast user experience. The xperia s feels a little too big when I've used it and I worry it will be the usual Sony affair and not be as fast as it should be with those specs.
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I saw the reworked arc s, harabusa or however it's spelt heh. That would be perfect but no idea when I could get one or how much it will be
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jomil said:
The xperia s feels a little too big when I've used it and I worry it will be the usual Sony affair and not be as fast as it should be with those specs.
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Well I don't have an Xperia S, but I have played with a entry level XPeria U, and it's Lightening fast, so much faster than my Xperia ARC S, which seems to be hobbled by too little RAM.

If you are a woman who has no time or need for Android development, who has no idea about hardware and wants something stable, buy your iPhone now and never look back... Android will not satisfy you, Xperia S, NXT whatnot ....
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Bushmaster78FS said:
If you are a woman who has no time or need for Android development, who has no idea about hardware and wants something stable, buy your iPhone now and never look back... Android will not satisfy you, Xperia S, NXT whatnot ....
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Errr okay, I'm not a woman. Thanks for that sexist comment though. I love tinkering with android and really don't see the point in having an iPad AND an iPhone, it's nice to have the best of both. All I'm concerned about is getting a decent upgrade which will last me.
How can it be that the Xperia U is faster than the S? That's not reassuring...often phones feel nippy when new and nothing installed. Or maybe the S will improve with ICS? I am considering getting an S as I could grab one for around £200

jomil said:
Errr okay, I'm not a woman. Thanks for that sexist comment though. I love tinkering with android and really don't see the point in having an iPad AND an iPhone, it's nice to have the best of both. All I'm concerned about is getting a decent upgrade which will last me.
How can it be that the Xperia U is faster than the S? That's not reassuring...often phones feel nippy when new and nothing installed. Or maybe the S will improve with ICS? I am considering getting an S as I could grab one for around £200
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The remark is basically inspired from what I have seen with my wife... She's a technology illiterate and iPhone did the trick for her. She had a decent android phone which basically "never worked right", regardless of updates etc. IPhone is a dumbed down version of android with no possibility to customize, with pretty eye candy, sold at a premium price ... IPad is the big brother... You catch my drift ... I just can't believe you spent money on an iPad ... But that's just me and nothing personal ...
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no problems fella. I just spent the last few hours unlocking my bootloader, changing the baseband, flashing a new kernel and loading arconium v2 onto my Arc S. Feeling pretty smug as I haven't done anything more than root a phone before... the phone is truely flying! Should last me another few months now.
Hurrah!

jomil said:
How can it be that the Xperia U is faster than the S? That's not reassuring...
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Sorry, typo, missed out the ARC bit..
The Xperia U feels REALLY fast compared to my ARC S
But then it's got a low-res display, so it's less for the GPU to drive, perhaps???? It's also Gingerbread not ICS....

jomil said:
no problems fella. I just spent the last few hours unlocking my bootloader, changing the baseband, flashing a new kernel and loading arconium v2 onto my Arc S. Feeling pretty smug as I haven't done anything more than root a phone before... the phone is truely flying! Should last me another few months now.
Hurrah!
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I suggest you to try JJHIBRID ROM. I was about to sell my arc S but when I tried this rom, I decided it will be good for another half a year.
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CrazyPeter said:
Sorry, typo, missed out the ARC bit..
The Xperia U feels REALLY fast compared to my ARC S
But then it's got a low-res display, so it's less for the GPU to drive, perhaps???? It's also Gingerbread not ICS....
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You know ARC S Rocks! too with GB

Bushmaster78FS said:
If you are a woman who has no time or need for Android development, who has no idea about hardware and wants something stable, buy your iPhone now and never look back... Android will not satisfy you, Xperia S, NXT whatnot ....
Sent from my Sony Xperia arc S
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That was down right sexist. Don't judge the whole mankind by one example. I'm a girl and would never sell my soul to the devil (read: Apple). Love Linux (Mint) and Android, and I'm quite an average ROM and kernel flasher.
SEK610i said:
I suggest you to try JJHIBRID ROM. I was about to sell my arc S but when I tried this rom, I decided it will be good for another half a year.
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JJ's Hybrid ROM 3.2 was a fresh new beginning for my S-less arc. I'm not your average rich person who changes phones every 2 weeks, but I wouldn't even think about selling my arc if it wasn't for the super bad quality of the housing (cracks, etc.).
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No it wasn't sexist... .... It is not only one example that runs blind behind the stupid iphone bandwagon... Did you miss the pink otter boxes being sold everywhere for that precious iphone? You are or seem to be an exception...
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Bushmaster78FS said:
No it wasn't sexist... .... It is not only one example that runs blind behind the stupid iphone bandwagon... Did you miss the pink otter boxes being sold everywhere for that precious iphone? You are or seem to be an exception...
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Um, I happen to see more guys with iCrappers than girls in my country.
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sunbriel said:
Um, I happen to see more guys with iCrappers than girls in my country.
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Lol we are talking about an exceptional country here...
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Bushmaster78FS said:
Lol we are talking about an exceptional country here...
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I see more Samsungs and HTCs, with a bit of Sony (Ericsson) here and there. Apple might aim the female buyers, but it's far from being woman's only phone-friend. And I see you're from the States - the weird part of the world full of parents who buy their 4 yo an iCrapper to play with. I've always found US Americans super weird people.
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Truth be told I know plenty of guys, in military, flying attack helicopters, and drooling over iphones... Best they could do is jailbreak it and change the toolbar color... Whoop de doo... I played with my wife's 3gs... Simplified crap. I merely have Sony because all I own consumer electronics wise is Sony... Arc is an ok phone. But even with ion they are behind the power curve... If I were you I'd use that arc with their latest GB... Heck come up 250 bucks I can sell you my arc S. They fixed the Crack issue with arc S... Mine is brand new though
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Just to let you all know, I bought a galaxy s3 lol will let you know how much I like it!
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Purchasing another sony phone

Hi Guys
Long time reader of this forum but have barely posted.
I just wondered if any one else is going to purchase another sony phone are sony's track record of not updating our phones to new releases causing most of us to Root and Install other roms?
I have created a poll with this thread, please specify what you are likely to get instead.
I am currently waiting for November 5th for when the new nexus range is rumoured for release to co-inside with the 5 year anniversary of Android.

I'll be likely getting only nexus devices. Unless another phone like the xperia play comes along with decent specs.
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I bought mine cause It was cheap..... so you can probably guess my answer
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i'll buy sony phone again ,
but JUST WITH A GAME PAD

I think by purchasing an XPLay, we've really f***** ourselves up in what phones we will allow ourselves to buy!
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Sony is suck cuz my arc is freezing always...don't buy Sony.
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DaveX2012 said:
Sony is suck cuz my arc is freezing always...don't buy Sony.
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Its personal preferance at the end of the day.
IMO, Sony may not have the best software support, but they sure make up for it in design, and hardware. I'd pick Sony on those two over any other company.
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I probably wouldn't. I actually downgraded to an Xperia Play for $0 on a 1 year contract from an SGS2 LTE for $180 on a 3 year contract when I saw the cheap deal. Even though I only have to keep the same phone for 1 year I still regret it a little since the phone is slow or it has become slow from all of the stuff I do to it and how much I drop it. It only overclocks to 1.3 ghz and even then it overheats and shuts down after 3 hours :/ I miss how snappy my old phone was even though I only had it for 13 days :/ And I read the development section for my old phone and it has jellybean aokp builds...I do however like the gamepad in this phone even though some games lag.

mehdi.moha said:
i'll buy sony phone again ,
but JUST WITH A GAME PAD
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Lol. You have a better chance seeing the second coming of Christ before seeing another sony phone with a game pad!!
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Potato13 said:
I probably wouldn't. I actually downgraded to an Xperia Play for $0 on a 1 year contract from an SGS2 LTE for $180 on a 3 year contract when I saw the cheap deal. Even though I only have to keep the same phone for 1 year I still regret it a little since the phone is slow or it has become slow from all of the stuff I do to it and how much I drop it. It only overclocks to 1.3 ghz and even then it overheats and shuts down after 3 hours :/ I miss how snappy my old phone was even though I only had it for 13 days :/ And I read the development section for my old phone and it has jellybean aokp builds...I do however like the gamepad in this phone even though some games lag.
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oh man I feel for ya I've had my sgs3 for 2 days now and I'm loving it!! Its super fast and with the 32gb sd card I've got 48gb of storage with 2gb ram!! If the play had that I'd never give it up
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I'm currently running FXP 134 Jellybean on my XPlay.
I had the choice between a SGS2 or the XPlay when I renewed my contract last and chose this one because of the game pad.
Hine sight is a wonderful thing but I'm quite happy running newer roms even when certain things don't work as those updates are the most important thing to me which is why I am going to wait for the new nexus to come out.
This is probably my last contract also as I am going to get Giffgaff for the data packages they offer
Shame though as the potential of this phone is huge, just feel let down that we didn't get any official update to ICS or JB.
I love swapping roms regularly, rooting my phone was the best thing I did...

I prefer to xperia acro s if i choose sony...
If ex sony, i prefer HTC one X, I don't like samsung design...
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Hmmm might cancel my Xperia z pre order

Am currently watching the HTC One announcement of their new phone. Have to say, looks pretty awesome, seriously considering cancelling my xz order and waiting for the HTC. I have had the HTC One and the HTC One X before, both have awesome screens, and when all the forum posts about the quality, or lack of quality, depending on which post your read, of the xz's screen. Hmmmm, decisions decisions.
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TBH I was thinking the same not long ago but after hearing the new HTC has no memory card slot and only 32gb version. Im not interested atleast 64gb like one x+ would have changed my mind.

R89SONY said:
TBH I was thinking the same not long ago but after hearing the new HTC has no memory card slot and only 32gb version. Im not interested atleast 64gb like one x+ would have changed my mind.
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It comes in 32 and 64 gig options. Need more than 64 gig, get a laptop.
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JamDonot said:
Am currently watching the HTC One announcement of their new phone. Have to say, looks pretty awesome, seriously considering cancelling my xz order and waiting for the HTC. I have had the HTC One and the HTC One X before, both have awesome screens, and when all the forum posts about the quality, or lack of quality, depending on which post your read, of the xz's screen. Hmmmm, decisions decisions.
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It looks much better than the xperia Z, its amazing.
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you re canceling xperia Z now in two months you ll cancel HTC and order next top phone to get out and in two months you ll cancel that one and the story continues

R89SONY said:
TBH I was thinking the same not long ago but after hearing the new HTC has no memory card slot and only 32gb version. Im not interested atleast 64gb like one x+ would have changed my mind.
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I'm sticking me the XZ, yes the HTC One looks nice etc but I change is due for me, this year will be the year for Sony I believe!

Sony z Pros
Better looking (i think)
Water/dust proof (not really something I need)
SD-card
Better dev support
less customized version of android, so possible faster roll out of new versions
HTC One pros
Newer SOC / faster/ less power
Better Screen
More internal memory
probably better speakers (not that i care)
infrared (not that i care)
As for the camera we don't know which will be better, and I don't really care as in the end all camera phones are rubbish
I'm not sure what to do, but looking at the hardware spec list the HTC is the one to get
looking at the software and design I favor the Z
Darn why could HTC just make a ****y phone
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The presentation veld a bit like a teenage phone, that is holding me back as well

stefanve said:
Sony z Pros
Better looking (i think)
Water/dust proof (not really something I need)
SD-card
Better dev support
less customized version of android, so possible faster roll out of new versions
HTC One pros
Newer SOC / faster/ less power
Better Screen
More internal memory
probably better speakers (not that i care)
infrared (not that i care)
As for the camera we don't know which will be better, and I don't really care as in the end all camera phones are rubbish
I'm not sure what to do, but looking at the hardware spec list the HTC is the one to get
looking at the software and design I favor the Z
Darn why could HTC just make a ****y phone
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I'm sorry but the HTC One looks better than the XZ. And better Dev support on the Sony? Please.
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I will see how much the 64gb is on contract.

barondebxl said:
I'm sorry but the HTC One looks better than the XZ. And better Dev support on the Sony? Please.
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Like I said, to me it looks better, no sense in arguing about taste
HTC is famous for being late with the release of kernel source and when they do it is often in a non compilable state, Sony is quicker and better in this respect .
Saying things like "please" isn't an argument.

stefanve said:
Like I said, to me it looks better, no sense in arguing about taste
HTC is famous for being late with the release of kernel source and when they do it is often in a non compilable state, Sony is quicker and better in this respect .
Saying things like "please" isn't an argument.
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It looks better to you is cool but to say sony will roll out updates sooner and better Dev support is funny.
HTC has a large Dev community, LARGE. Mike 1986 is a known HTC guy, and we all know him. And its just one guy that I'm mentioning. This argument about release of kernel source is what you sony guys keep talking about, yet all previous Sony devices aren't relevant today.
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exactly!!! not quite happy with HTC dev support

barondebxl said:
It comes in 32 and 64 gig options. Need more than 64 gig, get a laptop.
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There is no such thing as too much space in a multimedia capable device.
To OP: I can't believe you think that anyone cares.

redThd said:
There is no such thing as too much space in a multimedia capable device.
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Who said too much space? If you cant live with 64 gig then get a laptop with 320 gig or an external hard drive and use Skype to make calls.
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HTC One is a stunning device.
#1 device of 2013.
Sonys Z is suddenly last years tech already lol. Huge failure.

barondebxl said:
It looks better to you is cool but to say sony will roll out updates sooner and better Dev support is funny.
HTC has a large Dev community, LARGE. Mike 1986 is a known HTC guy, and we all know him. And its just one guy that I'm mentioning. This argument about release of kernel source is what you sony guys keep talking about, yet all previous Sony devices aren't relevant today.
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I guess it is where you after for most post xperia X10 devices you can get nightlies from CM. and the free xperia guys are doing excellent work to make that happen. You are able to get Android 4.2 on your arc (early 2011) possibly older devices as well, but I don't know as I don't have one. If you count the number of cooked roms it might be less than the one x but that doesn't say anything

Ok finally made my decision! HTC One great!!!!!!!! Non removeable battery? Ok rejected! Sticking with Xperia ZL now once and for all!

Maedhros said:
HTC One is a stunning device.
#1 device of 2013.
Sonys Z is suddenly last years tech already lol. Huge failure.
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once again to late to the party

stefanve said:
I guess it is where you after for most post xperia X10 devices you can get nightlies from CM. and the free xperia guys are doing excellent work. You are able to get Android 4.2 on your arc (early 2011) possibly older devices as well, but I don't know as I don't have one. If you count the number of cooked roms it might be less than the one x but that doesn't say anything
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That doesn't say anything?? Really? I call it larger Dev support.
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Maedhros said:
HTC One is a stunning device.
#1 device of 2013.
Sonys Z is suddenly last years tech already lol. Huge failure.
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There is always something better around the corner. I wasn't expecting the Xperia Z to stay on top anyway.

stefanve said:
I guess it is where you after for most post xperia X10 devices you can get nightlies from CM. and the free xperia guys are doing excellent work to make that happen. You are able to get Android 4.2 on your arc (early 2011) possibly older devices as well, but I don't know as I don't have one. If you count the number of cooked roms it might be less than the one x but that doesn't say anything
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Yes, but many HTC Devices have jellybean too. My DHD has jellybean and it is a 3 year old device.
PLUS the Chinese HTC Scene is huge.
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once again to late to the party
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Unfortunately, and by all accounts the M7 leaves the Z far behind. A superior screen, Camera, Sound Quality and Loudness, not to mention build quality.
I don't see why anyone would purchase a Sony handset unless they are a fanboy, in which case it would be pointless arguing with an irrational person.

**Unofficial and slightly maverick British Z2 Thread.**

As every other country seems to have one, I thought I would start a British one. Loving my Z2 but I do have a few small issues which I hope will be resolved with software updates. Sometimes when I'm listening to music, the Track ID app would randomly open. I have removed this app. Today, Sony connect kept launching for no reason. My Phone had been "up" for 355 hours so I rebooted which seems to have resolved this issue. Still no sign of software update. I am currently on .55.
I came from the S3 as I was uninspired by the S5 but there are a few things I miss, such as having the settings menu from the bottom left key. I also do not like the way notifications and short cuts are split up. I am yet to test the waterproofing but am looking forward to taking some under water photos when I go on holiday later in the year.
Your impressions of the phone? What do you like and dislike about it? Have you had your free speaker yet?

The only issue I have had with my contract phone from 3 Uk is that it has froze 3 times in two days which required me to hold power and the volume up to reboot it.
It may have just been a rogue app misbehaving as it hasn't happened again.
There is an annoying nag with Audio sync issue when shooting 4K. I have a genuine Sandisk SDXC class 10 card which should be fast enough but there is clearly a audio lag of a second. It is also there when choosing internal storage too so it isnt the card.
I too came from the S3. Didn't like lagwiz but did like the community on here for flashing Roms. I suppose I really wanted, as close to, a stock Android experience and Sony has done a good job.

I too came from a S3. I was running CM nightlies and got fed up of the poor camera (not cm's fault) and lack of device support.
On a sim only 3 UK handset.
One niggle I have is the lack of full screen widgets, or at least no option to make them go full screen.
For example dashclock starts minimized which I found really annoying. To remedy this I am using Acdisplay which handles notifications really well. Be warned it does conflict with lightflow. I like it as it adds a screen before my pin where I can preview messages et al and launch directly into the app when sliding up.
I also really miss full screen artwork when playing music as well.
Apart from this I am pretty happy with the handset, I haven't felt the need to swap to a custom launcher yet nor have I had the need to flash and get on a non-UK .402 release just to be "the most up to date"

Nice thread, just received my 2nd Z2 a couple of hours ago, my previous one had the 'multiple touch issue'. Couldn't even text on it. I'm hoping that this one doesn't decided to go crazy one me...
Edit: I'm also with 3 and I received my BT speaker today as well. A black one too, kinda wanted a white one with me getting the white phone, but I'm not too bothered.
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I got my free speaker today and I am well impressed! Been listening to my music at work and it has a lovely bass sound.

I decided to keep my S3 and donated my Z to a niece. Loving the Z2 and waiting a bit before I root it.
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Confirmed update stock branded O2 UK
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Ah congrats!
I have no idea what 3 are like with updates. If the unbranded FTF before becomes available I may flash that

Great thread, now I can say what I think about these country specific monstrositys as it's my right to be here in the British section .
Time to tread carefully so not to offend or have the race card mentioned but..
I have always disliked the fact other countries decide even though XDA is an English speaking communitie and every user has a common interest, they must be different and have there own threads. It kinda disappoints me that no moderator can stand up and say enough is enough, we are all Android enthusiastics here so let's not discriminate against others and be the one community that can join together as a hole.
I understand about the fragmentation in Android but does it need to effect the XDA forums too?

HOmERCIdAL said:
The only issue I have had with my contract phone from 3 Uk is that it has froze 3 times in two days which required me to hold power and the volume up to reboot it.
It may have just been a rogue app misbehaving as it hasn't happened again.
There is an annoying nag with Audio sync issue when shooting 4K. I have a genuine Sandisk SDXC class 10 card which should be fast enough but there is clearly a audio lag of a second. It is also there when choosing internal storage too so it isnt the card.
I too came from the S3. Didn't like lagwiz but did like the community on here for flashing Roms. I suppose I really wanted, as close to, a stock Android experience and Sony has done a good job.
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I had the similar freeze issues on my 3 firmware, flashed a generic UK FW and everything is perfect since then. Give it a try. I even got few gigs of extra space on my phone memory which was filled by junk apps.
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poo-tang said:
Great thread, now I can say what I think about these country specific monstrositys as it's my right to be here in the British section .
Time to tread carefully so not to offend or have the race card mentioned but..
I have always disliked the fact other countries decide even though XDA is an English speaking communitie and every user has a common interest, they must be different and have there own threads. It kinda disappoints me that no moderator can stand up and say enough is enough, we are all Android enthusiastics here so let's not discriminate against others and be the one community that can join together as a hole.
I understand about the fragmentation in Android but does it need to effect the XDA forums too?
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As far as I understand , the point of country specific threads is to discuss issues like shipping info, special country specific offers, country related firmwares and operator issues which are of no benefit to anyone from any other country. They are not to discriminate rather they try to streamline certain problems.

Coming from S3 too!
Still on .55 firmware, but I'll be rooting ASAP, well as soon as know I have no immediate h/w issues.
I too miss quick access to the settings, but I'll get used to it.
I also miss being able to switch to 2g, maybe this comes with the .402 update?
Look forward to a busy Z2 forum

Great idea for this a British thread ! i came from a rooted S2 running Omega V23 ROM and an Apollo Kernel. Had the phone for 3yrs . i like the size of the Z2 .. but not happy about the screen. i use the phone outside a lot and on a bright day i find it almost impossible to see the screen. The camera on the Z2 is fantastic ! such an improvement over my old S2 . i tend to find i loose the wifi signal on the Z2 a fair bit . checking emails it will just loose the connection. i am still on .55 will flash updates soon and see if it corrects the wifi issue . i hope soon that a way will be found to back up the TA partition so DRM keys can be saved . we shall see . :good:

As a tri-citizen of the United States, Canada and the UK I am very conflicted...
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I hope you don't pay taxes in all 3 ...
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ProdigalFather said:
As a tri-citizen of the United States, Canada and the UK I am very conflicted...
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Cheers to that. Dual citizen (UK and 'Murica) here!

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I hope you don't pay taxes in all 3 ...
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Haha.. I have income in two of the three countries - so yes I pay tax in two countries. No income in Canada so no tax there!
King Cole said:
Cheers to that. Dual citizen (UK and 'Murica) here!
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Cheers pal!
Seeing as I permanently reside in the UK - I think this thread is for me. I've moved from the iPhone to the Samsung Galaxy S2/3/4 and now onto the Z2. I can honestly say this is the best phone I have ever owned! Battery life, camera, size, premium feel, what more can I ask for? Got a SmartWatch 2 to go with it and I love the combination, along with my new bluetooth speakers (free thanks to 3!) and of course the Google Ecosystem which keeps me connected everywhere to everything work and personal.
Love this thread too by the way :cyclops:

I'm liking the love lol. I too am thinking of getting a smart watch. What do we think of the Sony? Are they a waste of money and just a gimmick?

The one that came with my Z1 was never used. Just not much a watch person and don't want one more thing to remember to charge...
Incidentally, I don't live in the UK but since all my phones come from Clove, I think I can participate on this thread
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Hey guys,
I was just wondering if anyone here could tell me what the official length of support for the Xperia Z line is please? Obviously I got the Z2 but after reading about Xperia and how Sony properly over the past few weeks, I see they said they are now to release a new phone/flagship every 6 months. I have a feeling I *may* have made a mistake getting this phone in that case! Unless someone can confirm Sony has a 18-24 month support on devices in the UK, I don't see why I should keep a phone that may be redundant in the next 10 months regardless of development support.
Thanks in advance!

They've always had 1/2 year flagships, I wouldn't worry about it
2011 - Arc > Arc S
2012 - S > T
2013 - Z > Z1
2014 - Z2 >??
Recently they've not been so bad with updating older phones, some delay at times. But nothing to worry about IMO
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To those of you with 4.4.4

I currently have a z2 which I love, but have a few issues with it. I am hoping someone that had a z2 can chime in and let me know if some things have been fixed on 4.4.4 For example, sometimes for no reason whatsoever my wifi wont connect, it wont even enable sometimes. I read that 4.4.4 fixes that. Since the z3 ships with 4.4.4 I was hoping that some of these problems have been solved. Calls on the z2 via speakphone are just plain impossible as well. The other caller hears nothing but echos, with or without noise supression on and trying all the different call settings. The earpiece is also pretty quiet, which can be frustrating in loud environments. I also find that web pages constantly have to reload with google chrome (which drives me insane!!!) and something I think should not be a problem with 3gb of ram. Also whats the deal with the auto brightness barely functioning on the z2? I wake up in the morning and am blinded by pure UV rays coming out of my phone screen, but when I go outside I cant see the screen. Auto brightness does not work well at all for me.
The last nail in the coffin for me is that I only have 16gb of storage and am already maxed out. I have a few big games that hog memory, but all of my media is on my external sd card. Does the z3 have the ability to store apps on the sd card?
I am hoping some of these issues are resolved, otherwise I will have to jump to the nexus, which I am not so sure about. I love my sony phone.

We all dont still have the update yet on our Z2 with 4.4.4 so we cannot said if something is fixed like the small issues, we can know that if we have and running on 4.4.4 !
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There's a 4.4.4 leak in the dev section and I was hoping someone grabbed the z3 already.

seh6183 said:
There's a 4.4.4 leak in the dev section and I was hoping someone grabbed the z3 already.
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We saw that already !
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1. alot of these big anoying problems has been resolved by sony in 4.4.4 simply because people complained about them
2. 4.4.4 Isnt even out yet
3. if you think nexus is better for you then go for it, patience is needed sometimes and often with Xperias concidering 2014 has been the roughest year for Sony, losing 2.1 bln and also a huge loss in fans/customers after Z2 release
problems are here and sony is fixing them

Envious_Data said:
3. if you think nexus is better for you then go for it, patience is needed sometimes and often with Xperias concidering 2014 has been the roughest year for Sony, losing 2.1 bln and also a huge loss in fans/customers after Z2 release
problems are here and sony is fixing them
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3. doesn't matter, we got Jerpelea now Sony just needs to get their sh** together on the hardware side and we may look into a bright future!

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2014 has been the roughest year for Sony, losing 2.1 bln and also a huge loss in fans/customers after Z2 release
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Indeed 2014 is a rough year for Sony at the moment but Sony get back asap and that for real hard !! ^^
I will and stay a true supporter to Sony for sure
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Haldi4803 said:
3. doesn't matter, we got Jerpelea now Sony just needs to get their sh** together on the hardware side and we may look into a bright future!
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well lets hope he sees all our problems in XDA and relays back to the development teams of the stock rom
which seems to be the case
Pandemic said:
Indeed 2014 is a rough year for Sony at the moment but Sony get back asap and that for real hard !! ^^
I will and stay a true supporter to Sony for sure
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Nokia 3310>Nokia N95>Xperia S>Xperia Z2
all my phones ever
never going to any other brand sony is great because our XDA developers are kind and sony continues fighting some how

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sony is great because our XDA developers are kind ......
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Hahahaha you should have been on the X10i Forums in the early days xD
Some ROM cookers even quit XDA and went to other boards because the harassment became to big, everyone was accusing others of stealing their tweaks and insulting others till mods banned all
Those were the days!

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Hahahaha you should have been on the X10i Forums in the early days xD
Some ROM cookers even quit XDA and went to other boards because the harassment became to big, everyone was accusing others of stealing their tweaks and insulting others till mods banned all
Those were the days!
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hmm guess i am being ignorant
there are some people here in XDA being EXTREMLY RUDE!
and some people stealing of course..
i instinctivly ignore bad things for some reason... just had to take a look around without my glasses on.

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Hahahaha you should have been on the X10i Forums in the early days xD
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@Haldi4803
Hmm the good old Xperia X10i days some years ago, then you should know me also, i was working with my brother @Wolfbreak on his rom to fix some stuff with succes and still working and talking with him sometimes,
He is the member that i know as the longest here and then brother @serajr came also 4 almost 5 years ago ^^
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well lets hope he sees all our problems in XDA and relays back to the development teams of the stock rom
which seems to be the case
Nokia 3310>Nokia N95>Xperia S>Xperia Z2
all my phones ever
never going to any other brand sony is great because our XDA developers are kind and sony continues fighting some how
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Well that hope is true and XDA is a great for us Stock Rom modders ^^
Well i never use another brand this are my previous device of Sony (Ericsson)
K500i > K700i >K750i > K800i > K810i > S500i > W580i > W850i
Then came Android:
Xperia: X10i > Neo V > P > Z and now Z2
Sony is always fighting back as we know and smash the other brands into the ground.
Sony is just the best in my eyes !
Sent From My Personal MW Revolution On My Xperia Z2

Using .314 and don't have any issues. No WiFi disconnect, earpiece speakers sounds excellent, great camera. My next phone will definitely be another Sony.
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@Haldi4803
Hmm the good old Xperia X10i days some years ago, then you should know me also, i was working with my brother @Wolfbreak on his rom to fix some stuff with succes and still working and talking with him sometimes,
He is the member that i know as the longest here and then brother @serajr came also 4 almost 5 years ago ^^
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@Pandemic
My names memory is somewhat bad.
But I do remember The Wolfbreaks ROMs. He's still alive ? xD greetings to him. And my thanks to you guys for creating such awesome ROMs.
P.S
When everyone is doing it
T68i>S700i>W580>C905>X10i>Z>Z2 xD

Haldi4803 said:
Hahahaha you should have been on the X10i Forums in the early days xD
Some ROM cookers even quit XDA and went to other boards because the harassment became to big, everyone was accusing others of stealing their tweaks and insulting others till mods banned all
Those were the days!
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I think what you meant to say was "those were the dark days "
As for 2014 being a bad one for Sony, well it's hardly surprising when a company makes idiotic choices, they pay a penalty for it. Releasing a new flashship phone every six months was bound to create the sort of confusion that would a) scare some potential customers away
b) piss the hell out of existing customers
c)devalue the brand to the point where it becomes painful purchasing their devices
Sony is an old school company struggling to fully embrace the new world order. Look what's happened to the other old schoolers Nokia, Blackberry, Sony Ericsson. They all failed as commercial entities. Sony bought out Ericsson and we hoped that would usher in a new dawn and philosophy. Things at first seemed promising but they've reverted back to type.
It won't be long at this rate when Sony ends up selling it's mobile division to the Chinese lol! It's failing and something drastic needs to happen. The z4 is looking now like a very important device. Make or break indeed! They really can't afford any screw ups there.
Don't get me wrong they've done Ok at times. The Z was very successful because of the novelty of waterproofing.
The Z2 was top notch but was delayed and by the time it became widely available, rumours of the z3 totally killed off its chances.
In between these two good releases, we had the underwhelming Z1 and the pointless Z3.
"One step forward and two steps backwards " should be written on the tomb stone of Sony mobile if it doesn't survive.
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Sony clearly stated that they are not suffering because of their flagship range. They devalued their low-mid range portfolio by writing off goodwill. It has ZERO relation to the Z series.
It seems the 6 months cycle does work. They've been doing it since 2011 and never had to devalue their flagship range.
a) First time I heard that 6 months cycle "scares" customers. Maybe you solely?
b) As above
c) I don't know whether you're basing this on your perspective or overall customer's. Normal human don't feel pain when buying phones with a 6 months cycle:
-It's a just a phone
-No one changes phone half-yearly
And I don't find Sony selling its mobile division to Chinese companies funny.
Again it's based on your personal perception that the Z1 was underwhelming and Z3 was pointless.
Z2 was targeted at Z users and the Z3 was for Z.
If you do not like Sony, instead of waiting the board space of your rants, go get the Galaxy smartphone. I'm sure the fingerprint sensor is revolutionary and excites you!
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I think what you meant to say was "those were the dark days "
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They were dark, but also great!
The first 60hz hack for the Screen! Or all the attempts on multi touch and 32m color.
And all those brand new 2.2 roms without camera... fully working 1080p fotos xD
But i agree with the 6Month cycle problem.
If i ask around a lot of people have a Iphone6 or a Galaxy S5 because it is something. Everyone knows its good... its a status symbol.
If you have a 6 Months cycle your phone is old! Even if you just bought it. Even if the technical details arent much different.
Btw, hasnt sony mobile written red numbers for a few years now?

But i agree with the 6Month cycle problem.
If i ask around a lot of people have a Iphone6 or a Galaxy S5 because it is something. Everyone knows its good... its a status symbol.
If you have a 6 Months cycle your phone is old! Even if you just bought it. Even if the technical details arent much different.
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They actually posted a small profit last year but that was because of the original Z's sales riding high on the waterproof wave! Remember the 5 million units sold in 60 days.
Unfortunately it was a momentum they squandered soon after with the z1. The z2 had a chance of matching and even beating that but delays scuppered its progress.
I'm hopefully they'll have something worthwhile with the z4. Let's just hope they release it early like they did with the Z and not cripple it with rumours following shortly after of another flagship in September.
Sony's running out of time to keep making idiotic mistakes. It's a philosophical thing. There are just some people there at Sony convinced that they can break through doing what they're doing now. I'm sure there'll also be some voices calling for a change in direction. Let's hope those voices get heard. No company can sustain losses indefinitely.
I'm already at the end of my tether and unless I see official word from Sony confirming that the 6 month cycle is no more, I'll be going with the s6 next year. No htc for me, they're just another idiotic company that think metal is the answer to all the world's ills lol.
Having said that, the new oppo with its very slim profile looks delicious but I think I'll pass on that.
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Again it's based on your personal perception that the Z1 was underwhelming and Z3 was pointless.
Z2 was targeted at Z users and the Z3 was for Z.
If you do not like Sony, instead of waiting the board space of your rants, go get the Galaxy smartphone. I'm sure the fingerprint sensor is revolutionary and excites you!
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You must be living under a rock. The Internet is littered with frustration at the 6 month cycle. Be that websites, YouTube, Google plus etc. Again and again you'll find frustration with this policy.
Even Sony execs keep getting challenged every time they do interviews. It's reported that one of them said recently that it was unsustainable.
Not devaluing the brand? Won't even bother answering that.
Yes mine was a rant but it was more logical than the fanboy nonsense you just spouted!
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Your post lack depth. Again, Sony clearly stated that their flagship did not affect their earnings. As simple as that. Either I trust Sony's internal performance auditors or trust you? lol.

lee480 said:
Your post lack depth. Again, Sony clearly stated that their flagship did not affect their earnings. As simple as that. Either I trust Sony's internal performance auditors or trust you? lol.
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Don't care who you trust. The original Z was the last successful flashship from Sony. They're just trying to blame their failings on the mid range segment to avoid damaging the rep of their flashships.
The problem is ubiquitous! The iPhone 6 sold more in a weekend than the z3 will sell in its entire lifespan! In fact make that two life times!
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Lol trying assert unverified fact from an unreliable person. It's ok, it's normal, go get an iPhone and stop terrorising The Z2 forumz
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