Hy i can t connect my phone to my car. I ask myself the Note 3 is RSAP or not?
mambraxneol said:
Hy i can t connect my phone to my car. I ask myself the Note 3 is RSAP or not?
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What ROM? Stock, custom?
rSAP should work, mine works and my rSAP module also works as Bluetooth only, if I refuse to give it access to SIM first time, then in goes back to normal bluetooth setup..
I recently sold my Skoda Octavia that had rSAP Bluetooth and it worked fine with my Note 3.
I am on stock rooted ROM.
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Please, can somebody already having MR2 in X2 check availability of rSAP profile under bluetooth options? Thanks!
under the profiles tab they are as follows;
A2DP
HSP
HFP 1.5
Pan
Opp
AVRCP
PBAP
SPP
SEWP
GAP
GAVDP
GOEP
no rSAP
Thanks for quick reply
So it seems no improvement against MR1
Does anybody know whether some modifications/adds of Setup_BT_extensions.CAB installing BT profiles can make rSAP working?
Maybe similar *.CAB from an other device as HD2 can be installed? Ideas?
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What's the importance of rSAP profile?
I read the other day that the miss of rSAP cause problems on some Bluetooth audio wireless car kits.
My X2 works without a glitch on my 2009 Mitsubishi Lancer with a Parrot MKi9000 device. Also, the other day I've tried my X2 on a 2010 Audi A4 with original Audi factory Bluetooth wireless kit, no problems either.
Cheers.
Jolo_ said:
What's the importance of rSAP profile?
I read the other day that the miss of rSAP cause problems on some Bluetooth audio wireless car kits.
My X2 works without a glitch on my 2009 Mitsubishi Lancer with a Parrot MKi9000 device. Also, the other day I've tried my X2 on a 2010 Audi A4 with original Audi factory Bluetooth wireless kit, no problems either.
Cheers.
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Mitsubishi Lancer is NOT using rSAP (remote SIM access). It pair with you phone as a regular Bluetooth hands free - mean that even when paired, all phone calls are still received and pass thru your phone. rSAP is complettely different story and brings all new functionality and user experience. Via rSAP (google it if you want to go to more technical details) your phone "borrow" his SIM card ID to the car, transfer phone book, SMS and sometimes e-mails to the car so you can see/use them on your car main display/navi etc... and then phone itself switch off his radio and goes in stand by mode. What's the difference ? To make calls you are using car's external antenna, car's amplifier, and build in car audio system - as a result you get MUCH BETTER reception even in areas where network coverage is not good and CRYSTAL CLEAR sound. This is included (since 2005) in All premium quality cars/models of All car manufacturers. As example for sure is included in my Mercedes C-class (who is even "lower end" compared with E and S-class models). It is also included in BMW, Audi, Toyota (premium quality models only), Lexus, Skoda, WV (premium models and as an option for low-end models.
NOTE: rSAP Bluetooth kit is considered "optional" for Audi A4 as it adds premium experience - in A6 or A8 should be "standard" and included without need to order it as an option.
MatoV said:
Does anybody know whether some modifications/adds of Setup_BT_extensions.CAB installing BT profiles can make rSAP working?
Maybe similar *.CAB from an other device as HD2 can be installed? Ideas?
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I have already tried every .cab from HTC published here - unfortunately noone have worked :-(
Btw - same cabs have worked for X1, so I guess there are some differences in BT chip...
I would be also happy if someone find a solution...
timekille said:
Mitsubishi Lancer is NOT using rSAP (remote SIM access). It pair with you phone as a regular Bluetooth hands free - mean that even when paired, all phone calls are still received and pass thru your phone. rSAP is complettely different story and brings all new functionality and user experience. Via rSAP (google it if you want to go to more technical details) your phone "borrow" his SIM card ID to the car, transfer phone book, SMS and sometimes e-mails to the car so you can see/use them on your car main display/navi etc... and then phone itself switch off his radio and goes in stand by mode. What's the difference ? To make calls you are using car's external antenna, car's amplifier, and build in car audio system - as a result you get MUCH BETTER reception even in areas where network coverage is not good and CRYSTAL CLEAR sound. This is included (since 2005) in All premium quality cars/models of All car manufacturers. As example for sure is included in my Mercedes C-class (who is even "lower end" compared with E and S-class models). It is also included in BMW, Audi, Toyota (premium quality models only), Lexus, Skoda, WV (premium models and as an option for low-end models.
NOTE: rSAP Bluetooth kit is considered "optional" for Audi A4 as it adds premium experience - in A6 or A8 should be "standard" and included without need to order it as an option.
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I understand. Thank you for your explanation.
One question: the Apple iPhone supports rSAP?
Cheers.
@Jolo_
I've heard from my friend that it was implemented with one of their last OS updates, so it's probably available on 3G and 3GS (not in original iPhone)
Anyone tested this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372529
hertell said:
Anyone tested this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372529
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Yes, I have tested this - cab installs successfuly, car kit pairs with the phone (after enter 16 digit code) and then drops and phone says "Connection failed, try again when phone is ready" So nop - it didn't work...
Hi,
has anyone had any experiences with trying to pair an SII (mine's running 2.3.4 stock) with an up to date Bluetooth phone module in a VW group vehicle. These support RSAP (GSMIII prep) as well as GSMII (lUHV/AD2P). I've sucessfully got the phone and BT module to pair but not always cleanly. When the handset is pairing via BT the signal bar display is replaced by the NO NETWORK (circle with diagonal slash) on the phone. If the pairing completes before this changes back to the normal signal bars then the BT module shows the phone as paired but with no network (even though the phone subsequently connects back to the service provider). Just wondered if anyone had experience pairing SII phones with VW group bluetooth modules... (I've actually replaced the module on my car with the latest D series one (5N0035730D).
Any feedback/experiences appreciated.
I have a Passat and it works like a charm with all used firmware version of GT-I9100 up to several 2.3.4 stock roms. I use currently I9100XXKG3-I9100XXKG3-I9100OXAKG3.
Just make you SG2 visible in Settings-Networks-Bluetooth and search with car's multimedia unit for a phone. Car display will show you a code like 1111222233334444 which you need to enter in SG2 when asked for it. Be quick otherwise it is canceled. If you have success you will be asked 2 (!) times to confirm permissions. Look in notification bar. One for connect and one for address book (Sorry if keyword are not fit 100%. I do this from my memory).
Works like a charm!
I also use my SII with great success in my Passat CC with the rSAP solution. The radio on the SII is supposed to turn off as the car has its own cellphone integrated and only "borrows" the SIM card over BT. My phone show two BT icons when it is working, and the phone in the car uses a few seconds to register on the network after it gained control over the SIM card.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
thanks for the feeback.. Sounds like the sort of thing I'm seeing... I see two BT symbols too... sometimes with two little arrows pointing inward during pairing.. Still though, i get NO NETWORK on the BT unit unless my phone comes back online before the pairing completes. It would appear the BT unit i have has two RSAP modes but I've no idea what the difference between them is (you can flip modes from the car menus). Just wish I could get this working reliably.I can't figure out why its being so problematic when everyone else's seems to work fine. I've uplifted the RNS 510 f/w to 2764 and have the latest BT D series unit available. I guess I can try an alternative simcard and handset to see if its any different... if anyone else has any advice it's always welcome...
thanks anyways.
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Anybody experienced the Bluetooth issue w/ Pdaimatejam's ROM? My Bluetooth could be switched on and stable. But it always shows "Searching..." and cannot find any Bluetooth device. I cannot find HD2 from other Bluetooth device either.
Please advise!
mine works sweetly
ermm... a) make sure the other phones bluetooth is set to be Discoverable
and b) so a soft reset )
Emm...
After performing some further testing, I found it can pair with my laptop, but still cannot connect to my car. Seems like the Bluetooth in that ROM is not compatiable with my car.
larryexchange said:
Emm...
After performing some further testing, I found it can pair with my laptop, but still cannot connect to my car. Seems like the Bluetooth in that ROM is not compatiable with my car.
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Finally I have to roll back to HD2O's 1.22. That ROM's bluetooth module works perfect.
in my case, I only get paired when I also put wifi on after that I cult put it off again
but It can not connect Automaticly you have to put it off wait 30s
put it on and after 30s they a connected and stays stable with out wifi
thats in V2 with original soft radio
Hi Guys,
i recently upgraded my S4 to a S5
My S4 connected to my car stereo as phone and as multimedia device, but my new s5 just wont connect as multimedia device.
It functions fine as telephone, but i cant get the multimedia option checked.
Is there some hidden option somewhere i'm missing ?.
I didn't have to do anything special for my S4 to connect as multimedia device.
Rexxen said:
my new s5 just wont connect as multimedia device.
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Unfortunately you didn't give us any details of how you tried to pair your stereo to your phone. So we have nothing to work with, no way to point out a missed step or error.
Did you choose the appropriate pairing mode in your stereo menu? If you have continued difficulties, you should tell us what model your stereo is, your S5 firmware version and a detailed description of the steps you tried.
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Rexxen said:
Hi Guys,
i recently upgraded my S4 to a S5
My S4 connected to my car stereo as phone and as multimedia device, but my new s5 just wont connect as multimedia device.
It functions fine as telephone, but i cant get the multimedia option checked.
Is there some hidden option somewhere i'm missing ?.
I didn't have to do anything special for my S4 to connect as multimedia device.
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Unless your car stereo is A2DP compliant your phone wont use it for multimedia. Check that out.
This is driving me crazy.
I've spend a couple of hours now in the car trying everything i can think of.
A google search learned that I'm not the only one with this problem.
Clearing the Bluetooth cache didn't help, i installed this app but that didn't work also.
I popped my sim back into my old s4 and it connects perfectly as both phone and multimedia device, allowing me to play music from my phone on the car stereo system.
The car is a Toyota Prius 2012.
I've attached the specs of my new S5.
The S5 only connects as phone and not as multimedia device.
I also experienced BT trouble with S5 in my wife's Prius 2012. My iPhone connects with no problems, phone, multimedia, internet.
I tried to share S5's Internet but after asking/reading here found out that a vital file is missing, /system/bin/pand.
The reason why you don't get MM connection could be similar.
iBimmer said:
I also experienced BT trouble with S5 in my wife's Prius 2012. My iPhone connects with no problems, phone, multimedia, internet.
I tried to share S5's Internet but after asking/reading here found out that a vital file is missing, /system/bin/pand.
The reason why you don't get MM connection could be similar.
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I copied a pand file (and the libbluetoothd.so) from a cyanogenmod image. it didn't help.
doing a logcat |grep bluetooth i noticed the following:
whenever i try to activate a mm connection from the phone to the car i get this line twice in the log file:
V/BluetoothEventManager(12390): Recieved android.bluetooth.a2dp.profile.action.CONNECTION_STATE_CHANGED
Since it's always twice, i think that it activates and immediately deactivates the a2dp connection to the car. looks like a programming error where you cant have 2 active bluetooth connections at the same time.
Hope they fix this really soon.
Not much help to you but I can get my UK S5 to connect fine to my factory car kit. I can connect for hands free, mp3 playback and as a modem for Internet all at once.
Airax said:
Not much help to you but I can get my UK S5 to connect fine to my factory car kit. I can connect for hands free, mp3 playback and as a modem for Internet all at once.
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I contacted Toyota, there is an update available.
Going to the dealer on Friday, hope it fixes the problem.
Airax said:
Not much help to you but I can get my UK S5 to connect fine to my factory car kit. I can connect for hands free, mp3 playback and as a modem for Internet all at once.
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You were able to share Internet via Bluetooth?
Yep. You have to enable tethering to get it to work with Command Online through.
Airax said:
Yep. You have to enable tethering to get it to work with Command Online through.
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Can you explain how in more detail?
Turn on the tethering option (search tethering in settings). Your car will connect to the phone for online access. This is how the 2013 model works.
I have the same problem with my S5 Duos. My Car is a Skoda Yeti. My Android Version is 5.0 Lollipop.
I also spent a couple of hours. Has anyone solved the problem.
SIM Access Profile (SAP, SIM, rSAP)
This profile allows devices such as car phones with built-in GSM transceivers to connect to a SIM card in a Bluetooth enabled phone, thus the car phone itself doesn't require a separate SIM card. This profile is sometimes referred to as rSAP (remote-SIM-Access-Profile), though that name does not appear in the profile specification published by the Bluetooth SIG.
There is any way to check if the Samsung Galaxy S5 Duos G900FD has this Bluetooth profile bulit-in ? It's very important because without this profile I get only minimal functionality on the VW Bluetooth module.
I am asking because I cannot connect properly the phone to my VW bluetooth module (I got only basic functionality, no WiFi support on the latest 3C8035730D VW Bluetooth Module)
When testing with a LG L70, the connection is ok, with rSAP (remote SIM Access profile active) and I get all the functionality of the VW module.
If the phone supports rSAP, how could be enabled ?
Thank you.
Problem solved.
I managed to activate the rSAP Bluetooth profile on the Galaxy S5 G900FD.
Many thanks.
How did you achieve this?
meiser said:
How did you achieve this?
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The Samsung Galaxy S5 has this bluetooth profile embeeded but it had to be activated by rooting the phone and using the Android rSAP app.
Too much trouble for such an essential feature for those who want to use their smartphones while driving.
Android should enable this Bluetooth profile in Android Lollipop for the Galaxy S5.