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Has anyone had any problems pairing their X1 with any Nissan or Inifniti cars? There seem to be some mumblings on the web about their cars and WM6 devices and I've had no luck getting it to work on my '08 G35. Thanks.
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i just checked the aproved phone list for your g35 and the x1 is not aproved by infiniti. only certain phones will link to our cars others will not
I have an 08 G35 and have no prob. pairing it with my car. How are you pairing this up with the car?
it also depend if you both have navagation or not
elee888 said:
I have an 08 G35 and have no prob. pairing it with my car. How are you pairing this up with the car?
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I don't have the navigation so I just click the phone button, tell it I want to pair a new device, and have my X1 start searching. At least now I know it can be done. Thanks for the reply
Well... I do have the navigation. So maybe the pairing process is a little different. But it should work though, it even allows me to download the whole phonebook into the car. Something my other phones in the past did not allow me.
baashha said:
Managed to solve this now.
Of course both Merc & SE didn't have any good solutions.... so had to continue googling & XDA-ing... This is what I did:
i.) Jetware, as I posted earlier has been removed.
ii.) I still had the SAP Profile addition downloaded from one of the forums in XDA on.
iii.) Change Registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Sys\COD
the default is 5898764 (Decimal) which is "Telephone (Smartphone)" which you would think would work. Changed to 5374476 (Decimal) which is a normal phone.
iv.) Restarted the phone.
v.) Started the pairing process from the car - failed as per before.
vi.) Started the pairing from the phone, and they work!!
Now, they pair automatically as how they would before....
Ram
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this is how i got mine working with my pioneer deck.
here's the link to the SAP Profile he was talking about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=997872&postcount=166
hope this works for you.
which PIoneer do you have?
I have the DEH-P5900IB and a BT adapter, and i can't get my X1 connect.
All my previous phones worked fine.
it looks like the X1 won't let me pair without passcode, and the radio says Error.
Do you mind explaining exactly how you did it?
Thanks
i have the DEH-790BT.
what i did was after i changed what i mentioned above, then i set my deck to be able to be noticed by other bluetooth devices, then added it through my X1. After I added it through my phone it said successfully connected on my deck and the phone displayed it connected as wireless stereo and hands free. now the only weird thing was it was trying to connect as both the wireless stereo and hands free which seemed to mess with the deck, so I had to turn off my ignition and turn my car back on for it to actually recognize the connection fully. oh and the passcode if you connect through the deck to phone like I did it should be default '0000' but i would check your manual just to be safe, and if your connecting through your phone to the deck (which i haven't tested so I don't know if it works) you can pick your own passcode, which i suggest just making 0000 or nothing.
I have a problem also with my HTC Touch HD (Blackstone)
I can pair with my Nissan Qashqai carkit but soun dis very bad, and the caller on the otherside doesn;t hear anything.
Strangly, but try, when during a call i switch from carkit to phone and back (using the options in my carkit/buttons on stearing wheel) everything is fine!
Checking the internet learned me that this is related to the bluetooth stack (or settings) in WM6.1 (and 6.5 also)
So does anybody have any idea how to solve this, maybe by registry changes or maybe by even "downgrading" the Bluetoorh stack to 6.0 or maybe even 5.x.
Maybe it is also possible to replace the complete MS stack for an other stack?
Hey Folks!
Great work here... Coming from WM/Symbian/Blackberry I'll try Android for daily use now.
My actual only problem is, that my Hero won't reconnect with the bluetooth System MMI of my Audi A6. Pairing is fine, manually connecting works, but I found no way to automatically reconnect the Hero with MMI when I enter the car and turn on the ignition/engine.
Every other handset does this comfortable reconnect (Nokia E71, Blackberry Curve 8900, Palm Treo 750...).
Is this a problem of my Hero or of Android itself? Is there a workaround to solve the problem to get an automatic reconnect?
Thanx!
Tom
Maybe the problem with the Hero. I cannot connect the Hero to my BMW I-Drive at all.
My G1 connected to my alpine stereo fine, when it did a small microphone appeared on the stereo along with the bluetooth icon. The hero pairs, the bluetooth appears and the phonebook is browsable, however it doesnt display the mic icon on the stereo. I think this means it's not using the stereo to pick up voice. I need to test more.
It would appear that there is something different about the bluetooth stack on the hero. Which is worrying with it being a hybrid android build
There is definitely something different. My old G1 pairs and works flawlessly with my BMW I-drive. The Hero pairs but won't connect.
Works with my Audi A4 2009. Autoconnects, I can browse my contacts etc...
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Works with my Audi A4 2009. Autoconnects, I can browse my contacts etc...
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That's positive. Are your contacts on your SIM or straight from a Google account? Do you have the latest MMI?
I'm about to take delivery of an A6 with HDD 3G MMI with bluetooth and wondering what to expect.
I have some issues on Skoda Octavia as well. As Skoda/Audi/VW have some things in common, I thought to mention this.
Usually my Hero works fine, but maybe 33% of the times I cannot initiate a call from car bluetooth. It starts to make a call, but fails, on Hero I get some MMI error (have to write that down the next time I get it).
When the error occurs, I can still start a call from Hero and phone audio comes nicely through car bluetooth and stereo. It requires me to turn off the engine and turn it back on to get it working again, however, sometimes it will also start working by itself. Might be that if I initiate a call from phone, it will start working from car controls as well, but I cannot confirm that.
Ik works fine on my 2006 A4 MMI, and I did test it on my new A4 2009 Model coming in december.
No issues, both show contacts and auto connect.
Did you set the MMI device as "trusted"?
Automatic connection works fine with my Audi A6 4f MMI!
After a few seconds I have access to all Contacts through MMI.
No Problems at all..
Cheers, Otze
I just have a Motorola bluetooth/FM transmitter. It's not perfect, but what I have to do is turn the Hero's bluetooth on *AFTER* the Motorola unit is initialized. So maybe enter your car with the Hero's bluetooth off, turn on the car, then once the stereo's booted up, turn on the Hero's bluetooth.
It's a bit inconvenient, but it works for me.
Also, I suspect that when we get the Eclair update, our bluetooth will work better, as Eclair is said to finally include a bluetooth API (which has been missing from previous versions, as Google said they wanted to polish it up before releasing it to developers.)
I have a problem where my HD2 does not work properly with my Land Rover Freelander 2 in-built bluetooth car kit.
The HD2 pairs with the car and I can search my phone book, see my last dialled number, I can even dial a number, BUT, the phone does not connect properly - the car radio should cut out and phone audio come through the car speakers, but instead the radio just continues to play. And shortly after the call is connected to the other party the line is terminated.
My Nokia phone works perfectly with my car, but this phone does not. Even my Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 did not for properly with the Freelander 2.
I did manage to make one successful call, but after I stopped and restarted the car, the problem returned!! Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
So, does any one know of a fix? Surely hands free/car kit is a standard?
Help!
same problem here. i have a bluetooth car stereo. Always worked fine with my previous HTC's. But now with the HD2 i get the exact same problems as you... I think it's software bug. i have rom version 1.43.404.1 NLD
i hope this gets sorted out cause i use bluetooth audio streaming a lot in the car....same for handsfree calling
Paired it with my Pioneer FH-P80BT on my way to sell my 3GS and recieved a call. Got the same issue as described above - just a bug i presume.
I'm experiancing similar problems. All works fine (incoming call's or outgoing call's) but they get disconnected randomly it seems. I'm using a JVX NX7000 by the way. No problem with my iPhone. Hope they fix it soon!
I tested it with my BMW Idrive last night which is notoriously difficult and it worked fine, I was really surprised tbh! But was able to recieve and make calls, the stereo cut out and could see the phone book too. With my N82 i was only ever able to make/receive calls.
Same problem - Jaguar XF - it docks ok but I have to initiate calls from car (vs phone). Just some weirdness going on...
glenner05 said:
same problem here. i have a bluetooth car stereo. Always worked fine with my previous HTC's. But now with the HD2 i get the exact same problems as you... I think it's software bug. i have rom version 1.43.404.1 NLD
i hope this gets sorted out cause i use bluetooth audio streaming a lot in the car....same for handsfree calling
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Mercedes brutality
I have a new Mercedes C, and when the HD2 is connected over bluetooth I get an extremely loud, strange ringtone when receiving a call. It is so loud it could really make your shoes go off.
Also it is none of the ringtones available to choose from, inside the phone - it sounds more like a BIOS beep from a PC and hits me while the normal ringtone is playing as well.
It definitely comes from the phone, not from the car stereo. I have not figured out how to resolve this, I think it is outright dangerous for unprepared drivers.
I have a Nissan Pathfinder; it paired ok, and dials from the Pathy without probs. Ringtone is ok too. Sound quality seems better than my old Tytn so all in all v happy.
Doesn't stream music, but that's Nissan's fault, not HTC.
Works fine with the Ford BT system in the Ford Focus (2009).
HTC HD2 Pairing with a Freelander 2 - SUCESS!!!
Success!!!
So far so good, I applied a known change to the HD2 registry and I am now making and answering calls without fuss!
Change Registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Sys
Add the DWORD setting COD=5374476
This makes devices see the HD2 as a 'Normal' phone.
Hope this helps everyone.
graemenwallace said:
Success!!!
So far so good, I applied a known change to the HD2 registry and I am now making and answering calls without fuss!
Change Registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Sys
Add the DWORD setting COD=5374476
This makes devices see the HD2 as a 'Normal' phone.
Hope this helps everyone.
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Hello i have same problem with my BMW X5. Can you explain better your steps ?
graemenwallace said:
Success!!!
So far so good, I applied a known change to the HD2 registry and I am now making and answering calls without fuss!
Change Registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Sys
Add the DWORD setting COD=5374476
This makes devices see the HD2 as a 'Normal' phone.
Hope this helps everyone.
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Interesting, I have a similar problem with my 2009 BMW 3 I explain here (sorry I posted before discovering this thread) and I'll try your registry tweak.
But you say that it is "a known change" to the HD2, could you tell us where you saw it ? Is there another discussion about the BT stack somewhere or more generaly about the Widcomm implementation in the HD2 ?
The HD2 being so recent and in short supply, I'm a bit surprised something like that is "well known"
Thanks for your help.
It works !
graemenwallace, I just tried after applying your tweak and... OMG, this is AWSOME man, it just WORKS !
I still just have one gripe though, it seems that the car doesn't always receive the RF level correctly at the first connection. Sometimes it sees the phone as having no carrier at all (no bars in the RX level display), preventing the car to make any calls, but as soon as I receive a call, the level resets to full bars and I can pick the call and make calls myself after that.
When the first call comes in, I can see the display with no bars and a "?" appearing on top of it for a short time before it becomes full bars.
So there is still some compatibility problems, but at least now I can pick-up incoming calls without risking my life.
So I suppose you are a potential life saver then
Thanks mate,
Yves.
Bluetooth is working YES with JVC KD-AVX44 ADV49
After the registry tweak from graemenwallace the bluetooth connection is working properly with my car radio (JVC KD-AVX44/KD-ADV49).
The phone functions ok now (incoming & outgoing calls) Also the AD2P connection is super (very good sound)
Also the ID3 tags are functioning (didn't function with the X1 Xperia)
I see the track title now into the JVC display
Skipping etc. all is functioning. I will tell HTC about it because I have a ticket running for this issue. I think they have to solve this issue
Big thanks for this trick
By doing a little search on the net, it seems like graemenwallace suggested that this problem is not new with smartphones that identify themselves as such.
The tweak above forces the BT stack of the phone to identify itself as a standard phone instead of a smartphone.
What's puzzling is that my BMW handsfree worked with other smartphones so far, including the iphone.
Anyway, it's ok now, but I wonder what bad press this will cause to HTC.
The majority of the users are unaware of this kind of wizardry and this justs adds up to the long list of bugs of the HD2.
When I first got the phone a few days ago I was rapidly convinced to return it immediatly as it's fancy interface wasn't enough to overcome all the shortcomings. It was plain unusable as a business phone.
Now after applying most of the tweaks, it begins to show potential, but HTC really has to work on the problems we can't fix by tweaking the registry.
I tried this also, but for me it didn't work.
But my situation is a bit different, as I am not able to connect the HD2 through the Sim Access Profile with my car, which is an Audi A6 mit Bluetooth preparation and I have also the Audi rSAP Adaptor installed in the centre arm rest.
My problem is, that I get a connection to the car, but SAP does not activate and I can't get access to my phonebook - so I only have kind of a handsfree profile...
Am I right that you all use the handsfree profile in your cars and no SAP?
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Works fine with the Ford BT system in the Ford Focus (2009).
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Does your Ford system have the Bluetooth audio choice?
I get my Ford Focus changed every six months coz i'm a driving instructor and it comes as part of the deal.
On my last Ford Focus my htc tytn 2 connected ok and I could make and receive calls ok.
However, when the new car was delivered the Ford system had bluetooth audio choice and ipod integration which the other one didn't.
Now my htc tytn 2 didn't connect very well at all.
Now with my HD2 it does connect only if I have the bluetooth audio profile selected.
But now the music player keeps appearing and wants to play music all the time. If I pause the music on the phone it just starts replaying.
Anyway I will try the registry tweak in this thread and hopefully that will solve the problem.
Paul.
Jolig said:
I tried this also, but for me it didn't work.
But my situation is a bit different, as I am not able to connect the HD2 through the Sim Access Profile with my car, which is an Audi A6 mit Bluetooth preparation and I have also the Audi rSAP Adaptor installed in the centre arm rest.
My problem is, that I get a connection to the car, but SAP does not activate and I can't get access to my phonebook - so I only have kind of a handsfree profile...
Am I right that you all use the handsfree profile in your cars and no SAP?
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I have the same problem. I`ll try to pair my HD2 with MB C-klass using SAP but i can`t get them connected it seems like a SAP adaptor can`t activate a PIN input window on HD2 (i guess). With other phones it works perfect (tryed with Nokia 5800, 6500).
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I have a new Mercedes C, and when the HD2 is connected over bluetooth I get an extremely loud, strange ringtone when receiving a call. It is so loud it could really make your shoes go off.
Also it is none of the ringtones available to choose from, inside the phone - it sounds more like a BIOS beep from a PC and hits me while the normal ringtone is playing as well.
It definitely comes from the phone, not from the car stereo. I have not figured out how to resolve this, I think it is outright dangerous for unprepared drivers.
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could you pls describe, how did get them paired? when i try to pair them, i see the device`s id, try to "call" it, see pin code and after that i hear the descending tone. and it nothing occurs. SAP is enabled, device is discoverable, what else? Any idea?
Jolig said:
I tried this also, but for me it didn't work.
But my situation is a bit different, as I am not able to connect the HD2 through the Sim Access Profile with my car, which is an Audi A6 mit Bluetooth preparation and I have also the Audi rSAP Adaptor installed in the centre arm rest.
My problem is, that I get a connection to the car, but SAP does not activate and I can't get access to my phonebook - so I only have kind of a handsfree profile...
Am I right that you all use the handsfree profile in your cars and no SAP?
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I feel your pain, my wife has a GolfPlus and the rSAP instalation is crap.
It's overly expensive and useless if you don't have one of the few phones compatible with it.
Unfortunately, many customers are falling in this trap, thinking it is a standard handsfree, but it is not, it is a full GSM build-in which only access your phone SIM card to log into the network and download your contacts.
In the case of my wife, the dealer was honest and clearly stated that it was a mistake to order this option.
The only problem is that he had no other alternative than proposing an Parrot retrofit which wasn't really an option for me as it wasn't integrated in the car and certainly not in the navigation system.
But internet is your friend and the solution is quite simple, the Kufatec kit.
This is brilliant, it is a small box that connects to the CAN bus of many german cars and integrates perfectly into existing navigators, it uses the steering wheels command buttons and so on.
It is much better (more functions) than original BT options, is tailored to each brand so that the displays are in the same style as the original ones etc.
More interesting, it is field upgradable (just a laptop with BT) so that it is potentialy compatible with anything existing or not yet.
And it only costs a fraction of this crappy rSAP option.
In your case, the good news is that it can simply replace your actual rSAP kit for a minimal installation fee. (the CAN bus has to be reprogramed however, so professional instalation needed)
There is another solution: to replace the unit you have (it is situated under the driver's seat) by a skoda unit. This unit has the same connector but is simple handsfree instead of rSAP.
Hope this helps.
Hey guys,
I'm trying to connect my HD Mini with my Audi's rSAP adaptor (which is located in the center arm rest, so it's not the Audi in-built MMI-phone module). As far as I know the rSAP adaptor is identical to the adaptors available for VW and Skoda cars(?).
My Mini ist Vodafone branded, the ROM-Version is 1.11.162.1 (87652) GER, Manila-Version is2.5.20131825.1.
All of the first attempts to connect by SAP failed. After entering the 16-digit pin the HD Mini shows a message that the "Sim-Access-Adapter" wants to use a SAP connection. After accepting this screen the Mini shows the SIM Access profile on the bluetooth configuration screen for less than a second and then the HD Mini falls back to a hands-free connection.
After playing around with settings, resetting both devices I gave up and started a support call at Audi and HTC. When Audi tried at least to provide some helpful information, HTC provided less than nothing, their DACH support totally refused to provide anything! :sad: My previous HTC devices all connected fine to the rSAP-adaptor (though they weren't listed to be compatible with the adaptor). My Rose worked fine for months and also my S710 (by using the additional rSap sw-tool) are still able to establish a SAP connection while the HD Mini can't.
Then occurred the strange thing: My Audi MMI display showed the network strength symbol which is only shown if the Audi phone module have booked into my provider's net correctly.
I looked at the rSAP module: Same thing. It actually has booked into the net, which means the adaptor was able to read the SIM-card information. Next look to the HD Mini's display: It was booked into the net too but showed the "Sim-Access-Adapter" connected with Hands-free mode.
Since I'm using a Vodafone twin-card contract (second card is currently unused) having 2 devices booked into the provider's net can be explained but of course this state was extremly unstable:
My car's adaptor catched an incoming call and when I spoke and heard the voice in my car's speakers the HD Mini stroke back, catched the connection including the ongoing-call and I needed to continue on the HD Mini, while the MMI car's display showed no connection anymore.
Just a few seconds later I must recognize that the battle wasn't over: The car adaptor catched the call, (right now without SAP-mode but Hands-free mode) and I heard my colleague on the speaker again...for 10 seconds and this toggled again and again...
Since my older HTC gadgets worked fine and also the HD Mini is showing the adaptor's attempt for a SAP mode connection but then falls back to Hands-free-mode, I think that there must be some changes on the phone, bluetooth stack implementation, perhaps something with WM 6.5, it simply looks like a timing issue?
So right now I'm hoping that anyone can provide something useful. Perhaps an expert can point me to the right direction?
My last try would be to clear my second SIM-card on the weekend so that there are no contacts - perhaps this can make the difference... :-\
Any help is greatly appreciated of course!
Thanks and cheers, Alf.
Btw: Great board with tons of helpful information!
Quick Update:
I completed a hard reset to Audi MMI, Audi rSAP-adaptor, HTC HD Mini and removed all contacts and SMS saved on my second SIM-card but unfortunately no change in the behaviour of the HD Mini.
But then surprisingly another HTC support guy dropped me a line today so it seems that my support call at HTC is currently still in progress although the first HTC support contact refused any help...so let's see and wait...
Cheers, Alf.
Hallo!
Did you get any useful information from HTC support?
I'm using a HTC HD mini in a new VW Sharan with Premium FSE (so via rSAP). In general it works, but ...
a) often the connection process fails and I have to klick on "connect" manually.
b) sometimes I only get a standard FSE connection (not premium) and when I leave my car for some minutes and come back, it works again with "premium"
c) sometimes my HD mini does not reactivate the phone module after I left my car.
Michael
Although they tried to help and provided a tracking tool which logged status information about the bluetooth communication stack I never received additional help after providing my bluetooth log.
I ended in using the HDMini with the Audi built-In Bluetooth module of the MMI instead of the rSap adapter. :-(
That way the internal antenna of the car is not in use but at least the MMI is displaying the phone contacts...
Cheers, Alf.
After getting the Galaxy S4 it has been connected to our Pacifica (Chrysler) for BT hands Free. The same does not work correctly with BMW. The car sees the Galaxy but does not accept the pairing code. We know it is a general problem because friends have the same problem. An IPhone 5 works correct, but the Galaxy should work too. Any recommendation?
No problems here. i9505 works like charm with my E90.
Even my phonebook get syncd perfect and i can call contacts per BMW voice commands.
The only problem I have with my E92 with professional nav system is that the phone signal strenght indication on the car does not update when the phone screen is off. For the rest it works like a charm, contact photos included. You have to start the pairing procedure from the phone. The car does not see the phone even if you set it visible. Once you touch the car Bluetooth name on the phone Bluetooth settings everything works as it's suppose to.
Once you pair it can you cofirm if you have the same problem that I experience with the signal strenght indication?
Cheers