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Bluetooth pairing problems on Infiniti/Nissan

Has anyone had any problems pairing their X1 with any Nissan or Inifniti cars? There seem to be some mumblings on the web about their cars and WM6 devices and I've had no luck getting it to work on my '08 G35. Thanks.

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i just checked the aproved phone list for your g35 and the x1 is not aproved by infiniti. only certain phones will link to our cars others will not

I have an 08 G35 and have no prob. pairing it with my car. How are you pairing this up with the car?

it also depend if you both have navagation or not

elee888 said:
I have an 08 G35 and have no prob. pairing it with my car. How are you pairing this up with the car?
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I don't have the navigation so I just click the phone button, tell it I want to pair a new device, and have my X1 start searching. At least now I know it can be done. Thanks for the reply

Well... I do have the navigation. So maybe the pairing process is a little different. But it should work though, it even allows me to download the whole phonebook into the car. Something my other phones in the past did not allow me.

baashha said:
Managed to solve this now.
Of course both Merc & SE didn't have any good solutions.... so had to continue googling & XDA-ing... This is what I did:
i.) Jetware, as I posted earlier has been removed.
ii.) I still had the SAP Profile addition downloaded from one of the forums in XDA on.
iii.) Change Registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Sys\COD
the default is 5898764 (Decimal) which is "Telephone (Smartphone)" which you would think would work. Changed to 5374476 (Decimal) which is a normal phone.
iv.) Restarted the phone.
v.) Started the pairing process from the car - failed as per before.
vi.) Started the pairing from the phone, and they work!!
Now, they pair automatically as how they would before....
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this is how i got mine working with my pioneer deck.
here's the link to the SAP Profile he was talking about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=997872&postcount=166
hope this works for you.

which PIoneer do you have?
I have the DEH-P5900IB and a BT adapter, and i can't get my X1 connect.
All my previous phones worked fine.
it looks like the X1 won't let me pair without passcode, and the radio says Error.
Do you mind explaining exactly how you did it?
Thanks

i have the DEH-790BT.
what i did was after i changed what i mentioned above, then i set my deck to be able to be noticed by other bluetooth devices, then added it through my X1. After I added it through my phone it said successfully connected on my deck and the phone displayed it connected as wireless stereo and hands free. now the only weird thing was it was trying to connect as both the wireless stereo and hands free which seemed to mess with the deck, so I had to turn off my ignition and turn my car back on for it to actually recognize the connection fully. oh and the passcode if you connect through the deck to phone like I did it should be default '0000' but i would check your manual just to be safe, and if your connecting through your phone to the deck (which i haven't tested so I don't know if it works) you can pick your own passcode, which i suggest just making 0000 or nothing.

I have a problem also with my HTC Touch HD (Blackstone)
I can pair with my Nissan Qashqai carkit but soun dis very bad, and the caller on the otherside doesn;t hear anything.
Strangly, but try, when during a call i switch from carkit to phone and back (using the options in my carkit/buttons on stearing wheel) everything is fine!
Checking the internet learned me that this is related to the bluetooth stack (or settings) in WM6.1 (and 6.5 also)
So does anybody have any idea how to solve this, maybe by registry changes or maybe by even "downgrading" the Bluetoorh stack to 6.0 or maybe even 5.x.
Maybe it is also possible to replace the complete MS stack for an other stack?

Hero will not automatically reconnect with MMI / Audi A6

Hey Folks!
Great work here... Coming from WM/Symbian/Blackberry I'll try Android for daily use now.
My actual only problem is, that my Hero won't reconnect with the bluetooth System MMI of my Audi A6. Pairing is fine, manually connecting works, but I found no way to automatically reconnect the Hero with MMI when I enter the car and turn on the ignition/engine.
Every other handset does this comfortable reconnect (Nokia E71, Blackberry Curve 8900, Palm Treo 750...).
Is this a problem of my Hero or of Android itself? Is there a workaround to solve the problem to get an automatic reconnect?
Thanx!
Tom

Maybe the problem with the Hero. I cannot connect the Hero to my BMW I-Drive at all.

My G1 connected to my alpine stereo fine, when it did a small microphone appeared on the stereo along with the bluetooth icon. The hero pairs, the bluetooth appears and the phonebook is browsable, however it doesnt display the mic icon on the stereo. I think this means it's not using the stereo to pick up voice. I need to test more.
It would appear that there is something different about the bluetooth stack on the hero. Which is worrying with it being a hybrid android build

There is definitely something different. My old G1 pairs and works flawlessly with my BMW I-drive. The Hero pairs but won't connect.

Works with my Audi A4 2009. Autoconnects, I can browse my contacts etc...

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Works with my Audi A4 2009. Autoconnects, I can browse my contacts etc...
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That's positive. Are your contacts on your SIM or straight from a Google account? Do you have the latest MMI?
I'm about to take delivery of an A6 with HDD 3G MMI with bluetooth and wondering what to expect.

I have some issues on Skoda Octavia as well. As Skoda/Audi/VW have some things in common, I thought to mention this.
Usually my Hero works fine, but maybe 33% of the times I cannot initiate a call from car bluetooth. It starts to make a call, but fails, on Hero I get some MMI error (have to write that down the next time I get it).
When the error occurs, I can still start a call from Hero and phone audio comes nicely through car bluetooth and stereo. It requires me to turn off the engine and turn it back on to get it working again, however, sometimes it will also start working by itself. Might be that if I initiate a call from phone, it will start working from car controls as well, but I cannot confirm that.

Ik works fine on my 2006 A4 MMI, and I did test it on my new A4 2009 Model coming in december.
No issues, both show contacts and auto connect.
Did you set the MMI device as "trusted"?

Automatic connection works fine with my Audi A6 4f MMI!
After a few seconds I have access to all Contacts through MMI.
No Problems at all..
Cheers, Otze

I just have a Motorola bluetooth/FM transmitter. It's not perfect, but what I have to do is turn the Hero's bluetooth on *AFTER* the Motorola unit is initialized. So maybe enter your car with the Hero's bluetooth off, turn on the car, then once the stereo's booted up, turn on the Hero's bluetooth.
It's a bit inconvenient, but it works for me.
Also, I suspect that when we get the Eclair update, our bluetooth will work better, as Eclair is said to finally include a bluetooth API (which has been missing from previous versions, as Google said they wanted to polish it up before releasing it to developers.)

Bluetooth AD2P & Carkit connection

There are a lot of problems with carkit connections & the HD2.
I tried several things to get it working without success.
When I try to connect to the JVC KD-AVX44 it connects but give no sound at all. (making 2 connections, handsfree & stereo audio)
Then I tried the registry tweak mentioned into this forum and had success once. I was very happy because also the title track was shown onto the JVC display and also the phone was functioning ok both ways.
The sound trough AD2P was perfect. Only one time.
After that i get a lot of disconnects.
Then I tried to make only connection with the phone function and this is working ok now. When I want to make the connection trough AD2P then the problem is back. Also when you make it without making the phone connection
So I think the problem lies into the stereo connection. For instance when you skip a track onto the JVC then the connection will be lost and reconect again and giving 2 seconds of sound and then it's quiet again.
Also when to 2 connections exists the phone is blocked by incomming calls because it's thinking it's connected so the earpiece & mic are dead at that time. And also the radio.

Did you try the LineSpeed setting to 256 in the AV key of the Widcomm registry settings ?
Don't know if it could help in your case but it did for me, I don't have disconnects with my Sony headphones anymore and sound is better.

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Ok thx I will give it a try and post the results.

which registry tweak did you applied first, cause i too keep having issues...?

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Change Registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Sys
Add the DWORD setting COD=5374476
This makes devices see the HD2 as a 'Normal' phone

Do I have to add this line somewhere? I found the AV key into widcomm but the line was not there

valos said:
After that i get a lot of disconnects.
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Try turning WiFi off on the phone, it makes a big difference on my IO Play system.

valos said:
Change Registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Sys
Add the DWORD setting COD=5374476
This makes devices see the HD2 as a 'Normal' phone
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Ok i make this in my BMW X5 and one of problems is solved - HD2 working correct when i am on call and power the car, but i have another problem - after 5 - 6 min on call Bluetooth connections is droped and i can't lisen nothing from Car or for Phone - i must to press Menu and switch off Hands free to continue conversation.

Ok but are you also making stereo connection. I only have the handsfree conected at this time and then the connection is stable. Only with the A2DP it goes wrong.

valos said:
Do I have to add this line somewhere? I found the AV key into widcomm but the line was not there
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Yes, you have to add the key, sorry not have said that.

kmeta said:
Ok i make this in my BMW X5 and one of problems is solved - HD2 working correct when i am on call and power the car, but i have another problem - after 5 - 6 min on call Bluetooth connections is droped and i can't lisen nothing from Car or for Phone - i must to press Menu and switch off Hands free to continue conversation.
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Strange, so far I didn't experience any disconnection.
I have conversations during more than 20 minutes daily and line quality is far better than with my Diamond, with no drops.
With the Diamond I had the BT stopping regularily on the phone, it was very annoying because I always discovered it when receiving a call and not being able to answer.
So far it didn't happen on the HD2, but it is really too soon to jump to any conclusion.
I don't use A2DP in the car as I didn't order the option, which I viewed as useless because the hard disk capacity of the iDrive is sufficient to hold a good collection, the audio quality and functionality is much better and I can still connect the phone to the USB plug as mass storage if I want to play or transfer something from it or any memory stick or external HD.
So maybe not having the A2DP profile active may help also.

I also not any problem with my old HTD HD and Cruize ... but with HD2 i have this issue.
Today i receive answer of my ticket from HTC: they offer me to contact with BMW and to ask them why they not support HD2 ... I think this is stupid becouse every new device must support old protocols and older devices.
Now the choice is to change Car or Phone ... sorry but HD2 not have any chance to survive.

kmeta said:
I also not any problem with my old HTD HD and Cruize ... but with HD2 i have this issue.
Today i receive answer of my ticket from HTC: they offer me to contact with BMW and to ask them why they not support HD2 ... I think this is stupid becouse every new device must support old protocols and older devices.
Now the choice is to change Car or Phone ... sorry but HD2 not have any chance to survive.
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Yes how lousy is that
Got the same answer first, but they realised that BMW coudn't recall thousands of vehicles to do a BT upgrade just because HTC decided to adopt the crapy Widcomm BT stack.
So they say they are working on a fix, but given how many issues there are with this stack, they better switch back to the old MS stack instead.
To be clear, it is the Widcomm stack at fault here, not BMW. Every single phone not equipped with this stack, I could try on the BMW, worked flawlesly.
I hope they will recognise this officialy and not blame the others each time a customer opens a ticket about these flaws.
In the meantime, the registry hack works perfectly for handsfree profile, but it seems it doesn't fix everything when the A2DP profile is activated.

MacGyver4321 said:
Yes how lousy is that
Got the same answer first, but they realised that BMW coudn't recall thousands of vehicles to do a BT upgrade just because HTC decided to adopt the crapy Widcomm BT stack.
So they say they are working on a fix, but given how many issues there are with this stack, they better switch back to the old MS stack instead.
To be clear, it is the Widcomm stack at fault here, not BMW. Every single phone not equipped with this stack, I could try on the BMW, worked flawlesly.
I hope they will recognise this officialy and not blame the others each time a customer opens a ticket about these flaws.
In the meantime, the registry hack works perfectly for handsfree profile, but it seems it doesn't fix everything when the A2DP profile is activated.
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After much playing around - I found a linespeed of 300 works best for the HD2. 256 still has questionable quality and 320 for some reason skips a lot. Reducing it to 300 seems to be a workable equilibrium!

nissan bluetooth handsfree woes

ever since my G1 updated from 1.1 to 1.5, it has not been compatible with my nissan handsfree bluetooth system. i waited until another update, and now that i have my nexus one and it still doesn't work, i'm a little disappointed.
i am able to pair my phone to the car, but when i make or receive a call the car speakers shut off (as they should) but the audio comes out of the phone. i don't even know about whether or not the other people can hear me.
is this a known android issue? it may even be a nissan issue, but i'm sure it can be fixed within android (seeing as how my g1 used to do this). i'm 99% sure there's no easy way to update the nissan bluetooth firmware to help this.
anyone experiencing the same thing and is there some fix out there or some effort?

Well, I don't have a android device or nissan hands-free, but I do use a Touch Pro 2 with my sync equipped ford. Anyway, I had a very similar issue, and I had to go into the bluetooth manager and change a setting that had it default to audio over the hands-free device, rather than some other thing... It has worked great ever since then. Oh, I also learned that I had to answer the call using only the car's answer buttons otherwise if I hit answer on the device it would again send the audio only to the phone's speakers. Of course that seems logical, but my phone prior to that would allow me to answer and speak through the hands-free with either method of answering the phone.
At least it's something to look into.
Also, the phone I had before the TP2 required that I update my sync software before it would work. However, it wouldn't even pair before the update, so I don't think that's your issue. I don't know what the procedure is for updating your nissan firmware, but sync simply involves downloading a system version checker to a usb drive, plugging it into the car, return to computer and download available updates, and then return to car to install updates. I would guess nissan would have a similar method?
I realize we're dealing with two completely different systems here, but I figured I would chime in anyway since I had a very similar situation.

My Acura handsfree works like a charm. Perhaps you have too many contacts that are syncing?

awee man... I was hoping that there were no nissan/infiniti bt issues w/ this phone
I'll find out Saturday when I finally pick it up from the fedex place

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Well, I don't have a android device or nissan hands-free, but I do use a Touch Pro 2 with my sync equipped ford. Anyway, I had a very similar issue, and I had to go into the bluetooth manager and change a setting that had it default to audio over the hands-free device, rather than some other thing... It has worked great ever since then. Oh, I also learned that I had to answer the call using only the car's answer buttons otherwise if I hit answer on the device it would again send the audio only to the phone's speakers. Of course that seems logical, but my phone prior to that would allow me to answer and speak through the hands-free with either method of answering the phone.
At least it's something to look into.
Also, the phone I had before the TP2 required that I update my sync software before it would work. However, it wouldn't even pair before the update, so I don't think that's your issue. I don't know what the procedure is for updating your nissan firmware, but sync simply involves downloading a system version checker to a usb drive, plugging it into the car, return to computer and download available updates, and then return to car to install updates. I would guess nissan would have a similar method?
I realize we're dealing with two completely different systems here, but I figured I would chime in anyway since I had a very similar situation.
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haha yeah, i don't have a "bluetooth settings manager" on my car, and i don't think i can update the firmware...which is ridiculous.
also, to the acura guy, my contacts aren't even syncing

niiiick said:
ever since my G1 updated from 1.1 to 1.5, it has not been compatible with my nissan handsfree bluetooth system. i waited until another update, and now that i have my nexus one and it still doesn't work, i'm a little disappointed.
i am able to pair my phone to the car, but when i make or receive a call the car speakers shut off (as they should) but the audio comes out of the phone. i don't even know about whether or not the other people can hear me.
is this a known android issue? it may even be a nissan issue, but i'm sure it can be fixed within android (seeing as how my g1 used to do this). i'm 99% sure there's no easy way to update the nissan bluetooth firmware to help this.
anyone experiencing the same thing and is there some fix out there or some effort?
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I also just got an N1 and my Nissan handsfee bluetooth lets me voice-dial but the call doesn't get routed through the handsfree system. I have to take the phone out of my pocket and activate the speakerphone. Any solution would be much appreciated.

I don't have teh same system. Like the previous poster I use the N1 with my Ford Sync. If a call is initiated from the phone it starts out in "private" mode using my phone's speakers. If initiated from the car it uses the car's sound system. There's also an option in there allowing you to choose the default sound output of calls. I have the latest firmware installed.

That actually makes sense.. my previous phone always used the speakers which was a bit of a shock sometimes when I was sat in a car park wanting to make a quick call. Clearly it still has some rough edges on some cars.

[Q] Bluetooth Carkit Connection in Mercedes

Hi
I have my HTC Touch already 2.5 years, and untill now I've been very happy with it (strong, good agenda, ...)
But since a few weeks, I have a company car (Mercedes C), and I do not succeed to have my Touch working with the Bluetooth.
Problem
- 2 out of 3 times, the sound is horrible (like some parts of the sound are cut away)
- 1 out of 3 times it works perfect
- sometimes the connection is interrupted (during calling, or during standby)
- when I press the buttons of my car, the phone is responding with some delay from time to time (unlike with a Nokia, with that phone it goes flawless)
What I already tried
- I could connect the phone to the car (but it went not as good as with the Nokia)
- could even exchange contacts
- my old Nokia works fine via bluetooth with the car
- I already tried to adjust the incoming sound and outgoing sound levels. No improvement
- I can select the option "serial port" in the bluetooth settings for the Mercedes connection in my phone, but this doesn't help
- handsfree is selected
- I installed the hotfix for dropped calls (no improvement)
Does anyone recognizes this problem? Is it possible to get around this problem.
Buying a new one is also an option, but I do find one that I like within a reasonable budget. So I really want to fix this!
Thanks in advance for your help.

Found the problem by accident. The WIFI is apparently blocking the BT, so it works if I disable the WIFI
now finding an application that gives me custom profiles, would be nice.

you can try G-profile.
anyway, why not just ask your company to give you a iPhone4, they gave you Mercedes C, iPhone4 is just peanut compare to Mercedes C.

ahsiang888 said:
you can try G-profile.
anyway, why not just ask your company to give you a iPhone4, they gave you Mercedes C, iPhone4 is just peanut compare to Mercedes C.
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Thanks for the hint!
About the iPhone, our mobile phone policy is not that iPone-minded: every year we get €60; with that money, we have to look ourselves for a phone.
And to my opinion, an iPhone is too big. I like the size of my HTC Touch.