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Verizon Moto G on Page Plus

As many of you are probably aware, Page Plus has better prices than Verizon prepaid and has the same coverage. Verizon forbids the activation of prepaid devices on Page Plus until they've been used on a prepaid account for six months. I just wanted to make a post to let everyone know that it IS possible to get a prepaid phone on Page Plus. You just have to use a dealer site that doesn't check the ESN. Two examples are www.exclusivecellular.com and www.remotesquad.com. I have used both to activate iPhones and prepaid phones, both of which are not possible to activate on the Page Plus website. The remotesquad one allows free ESN swaps as well as activations. If you have bought the Verizon Moto G, please try to activate it on Page Plus. I really want to know whether or not it'll work. I'm 99% sure it will, but who knows... Verizon might have a new trick up their sleeve. It won't cost anything to activate... In fact, all Page Plus accounts come with $2 free balance.

Nope

Lay295 said:
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Oh no... I've been misleading people on reddit. I was so sure this would work. Have you tried calling Page Plus and asking them to activate it? Who knows... They might do it if you don't tell them what kind of phone it is. Also please try activating a page plus account using a different phone and then using remotesquad to swap your ESN to the Moto G. If you don't have another phone, just type a random 11 or 18 digit number. Should work.

I tried this on a motox and it didn't work . Unfortunately I don't think we will get to put PagePlus on them, Verizon is in the business for making money.
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Verizon wasn't even activating the phone prior to today. Today was the actual release date. Has anyone tried today at all? If not i'll post my findings after I return from my purchase.

You can if you buy it at $199.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2604694

The phone won't activate on PP. Came back with the same error as posted previously.
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Same thing on Straight Talk BYOP. Nope.

This is a bummer. I was going to try to get my hands on a $100 Moto G for this reason. I'm a new PP dealer, and would like to try to get this working. Has anyone tried using a donor?

phonephixer said:
The phone won't activate on PP. Came back with the same error as posted previously.
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So if you get the unlocked version will it work on PP just fine? I was gonna buy my mother in law one since he is on their network already.

lemonfugu said:
So if you get the unlocked version will it work on PP just fine? I was gonna buy my mother in law one since he is on their network already.
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What "unlocked version"? Is there a CDMA one? Where can you get it?

Has anyone made any progress with the G made for other carriers like Boost or U.S. Cellular? There should be fewer obstacles in getting one activated on Page Plus since they are not blocked by ESN the way the Verizon ones are

Is that really the case? I thought verizon won't activate any esn that isn't already listed in its system. Effectively the only option is doing what others are currently doing with the blocked 4g phones on page plus. That requires quite a bit of work in my opinion, and theoretically can be done just as well with the verizon moto g's that are currently blacklisted.

MrSmileyJr said:
Is that really the case? I thought verizon won't activate any esn that isn't already listed in its system.
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I had a Sprint iPhone on Page Plus. The only ESN's that are blocked by Page Plus are ones that are from prepaid phones or ones that were reported stolen

ADonovan said:
Has anyone made any progress with the G made for other carriers like Boost or U.S. Cellular? There should be fewer obstacles in getting one activated on Page Plus since they are not blocked by ESN the way the Verizon ones are
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ADonovan said:
I had a Sprint iPhone on Page Plus. The only ESN's that are blocked by Page Plus are ones that are from prepaid phones or ones that were reported stolen
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Pageplus blocks all 4g phones too. If I understood correctly, the sprint iphones require you to jailbreak, and then pretend you're on sprint while roaming on verizon. This means that its not a simple thing to activate like with a verizon phone. Likewise, I don't know if this is possible with a non-sprint phone, nor if it is possible to get the moto g to do this type of trick either. see here: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1735603-sprint-phone-on-pageplus?p=14567637#post14567637
I would be glad to hear otherwise nevertheless

Boost Model works just fine flashed to Page Plus
Viper

Viper32 said:
Boost Model works just fine flashed to Page Plus
Viper
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can you post instructions please? thanks!

Google Play Editon. Sorry for the late reply.

Page plus is CDMA. Unlocked version is GSM. Won't work.
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Yes it should!
lemonfugu said:
So if you get the unlocked version will it work on PP just fine? I was gonna buy my mother in law one since he is on their network already.
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Yes sir just make sure you buy a unlocked us gsm or unlocked international gsm for europe and asia.

Droid Turbo for use on T-Mobile?

Will this work?
It appears to support all the necessary radios/bands.
I would love the droid turbo (camera/screen) vs. the nexus 6.
Would be cool if the droid turbo (bought full retail) could be used on T-Mobile.
Any thoughts/comments?

h20wakebum said:
Will this work?
It appears to support all the necessary radios/bands.
I would love the droid turbo (camera/screen) vs. the nexus 6.
Would be cool if the droid turbo (bought full retail) could be used on T-Mobile.
Any thoughts/comments?
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I believe the Turbo will be launched for other carriers (T-Mobile/AT&T) as the "Moto X Play", from what I've read. This was based on FCC filings, but I forget where I saw it.

fury683 said:
I believe the Turbo will be launched for other carriers (T-Mobile/AT&T) as the "Moto X Play", from what I've read. This was based on FCC filings, but I forget where I saw it.
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Seems like a better phone than the nexus 6.
I'm going to buy the 6 at launch but feel the 6" screen will be too big for me,.
-RR

I'm curious if the Moto X Play will be like the "pure" edition and will work on Verizon. It seems like the Nexus 6 will support all bands for all carriers, so there is only one SKU for that device in the USA, and a second SKU for international use.
If the Moto X Play is literally a carbon copy of the Droid Turbo but supports the additional bands, I'll buy it from Moto instead of VZW.
Only 6 days and 20 hours left...
Edit: I said pure edition, which is a Moto X thing, but really meant the N6 idea of having all bands on one device. Having the Turbo and Moto X Play is to get around the exclusivity of the Droid name, which is now locked up with Moto and Verizon only.

I think GSM version that visited the FCC might be called the Moto Maxx instead of the Moto X Play
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rjayflo said:
I think GSM version that visited the FCC might be called the Moto Maxx instead of the Moto X Play
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Thanks! I was hot on the Verizon Droid Turbo but now I will wait to see if Motorola will come out with a Pure Edition model of it! Not sure they will however! Motorola seem to be giving out the high ends to exclusive tied U.S. carriers. Hope I am wrong! Love to buy a U.S. version Moto Maxx or Moto X Play unlocked 5.2" with the specs of the Nexus 6 inside!

Moto Maxx's own Forum Section

Help the Moto Maxx (XT1225) get it's own forum section!​
The Moto Maxx is the international variant of the Droid Turbo but differently from other phones variations, the Moto Maxx has many things that set it apart from the Turbo.
Connectivity is one, for example. The Turbo is CDMA based, since it's from Verizon and the MAXX is an International all-rounder. Don't even make me talk about the name, it doesn't even
look remotely the same. THEY ARE DIFFERENT and they deserve to be treated like so.
Reply and vote if you agree! Let's make this, fellow MAXX users.
-Jvov

If the moto maxx is an all rounder wouldn't that male the hardware exactly the same in the turbo? I take this as good news because I want to switch networks eventually.
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Just the fact that one is a CDMA phone while the other is GSM is problematic. One is unlocked, the other is not. There will be different methods used in order to unlock the bootloader and root for each device. Some files will be ok to flash on one but death on the other and vice versa, read about the various bricks between the Find 7 and Find 7a if you want to learn how this happens. They do not have the same stock software payload and will require different roms which will get confused with one another and problems will happen because some people cant be bothered to follow simple instructions.
You can by the way make this request in the request thread up in general. I did.

The Moto Maxx XT1225 is just more dev-friendly than the Droid Turbo. It deserves its own section.

Jvov said:
Help the Moto Maxx (XT1225) get it's own forum section!​
The Moto Maxx is the international variant of the Droid Turbo but differently from other phones variations, the Moto Maxx has many things that set it apart from the Turbo.
Connectivity is one, for example. The Turbo is CDMA based, since it's from Verizon and the MAXX is an International all-rounder. Don't even make me talk about the name, it doesn't even
look remotely the same. THEY ARE DIFFERENT and they deserve to be treated like so.
Reply and vote if you agree! Let's make this, fellow MAXX users.
-Jvov
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Wouldn't be easier to PM some forum moderator and ask for a different thread?.

There are many other phones that are carrier-exclusive that have their own section/forum.
Why not maxx/droid turbo?

I think new forum should be great

Jvov said:
Help the Moto Maxx (XT1225) get it's own forum section!​
The Moto Maxx is the international variant of the Droid Turbo but differently from other phones variations, the Moto Maxx has many things that set it apart from the Turbo.
Connectivity is one, for example. The Turbo is CDMA based, since it's from Verizon and the MAXX is an International all-rounder. Don't even make me talk about the name, it doesn't even
look remotely the same. THEY ARE DIFFERENT and they deserve to be treated like so.
Reply and vote if you agree! Let's make this, fellow MAXX users.
-Jvov
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krabman said:
Just the fact that one is a CDMA phone while the other is GSM is problematic. One is unlocked, the other is not. There will be different methods used in order to unlock the bootloader and root for each device. Some files will be ok to flash on one but death on the other and vice versa, read about the various bricks between the Find 7 and Find 7a if you want to learn how this happens. They do not have the same stock software payload and will require different roms which will get confused with one another and problems will happen because some people cant be bothered to follow simple instructions.
You can by the way make this request in the request thread up in general. I did.
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Who says that the Turbo is CDMA? I have a Verizon Turbo and use it in Germany with Vodafone GSM, G3, H+ and LTE without any problems.
Cheers

Lyson said:
Who says that the Turbo is CDMA? I have a Verizon Turbo and use it in Germany with Vodafone GSM, G3, H+ and LTE without any problems.
Cheers
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I think they meant to say that is CDMA based, as well as Verizon network is, but Turbo still has support for GSM, and if the bands are correct, it can have LTE also in other places.

I believe we should get our own forum, but not right now.
We still share many things. We have so little content that many of our posts in the general section should be in the Q&A or at the Original Dev, but we don't produce that much content.
I'd rather have one or 2 sub forums here differentiating. the Original Dev, for example, should be split in 2, one for each.

Having at least a couple of sub-forums would help a lot finding and sharing content.
I still don't own a Moto Maxx but it will sure be my next device and I'll surely unlock its bootloader.

Lyson said:
Who says that the Turbo is CDMA? I have a Verizon Turbo and use it in Germany with Vodafone GSM, G3, H+ and LTE without any problems.
Cheers
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Here in the states phone variants designed to run on CDMA networks are called CDMA phones, phones designed to run on GSM networks are called GSM phones. Nowadays of course the terms don't have the meaning they once did when a phone either was one or the other and did not possess broad multi frequency support but the terms still carry forward to denote variants built for either one network type or the other. In the states only on Verizon can you get full carrier support with the turbo, on any other network you will at times lose LTE depending on which carrier you use it on.
The importance here is that these phones will diverge in their development. Like it or not the vast majority of all Turbos sold will be used on the largest CDMA network in the world, Verizon, which is also the most intrusive and meddling carrier in the US and that alone means all these users will face problems particular to that network one of which is a locked bootloader. Whatever process sees that bootloader unlocked will be very different than simply going to Motorolas website as Maxx users will do. The recovery will be different, the roms will be different, etc.
As I said, you need only go to the Find 7 forums to see what happens when two every similar but different phones share the same forum. Users flash the wrong modems, the wrong recoveries, the wrong roms, the wrong frameworks, its a long list. In truth this could be overcome with ease simply by users employing common sense and reading before they act but the reality is many many people come to this site green and then flash without understanding that one little letter in a name can mean the phone isn't going to boot up. Then you get all the help me I bricked my phone, I'm in infinite boot loop, and so on posts. People usually find their way clear of whatever mistake they made but not all do, some learn the lesson the expensive way.
IMO its better to at least split the development sections and rename the sub forum something on the lines of Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx forum. There will be less problems and it's been done here before when this situation came up. I'm just an old man though and maybe overly cautious...

So theoretically speaking according the stats of the supported bands the droid turbo rooted and unlocked would be a better phone to have then the moto maxx?
It appears turbo has all the bands the maxx has AND more...
This being said, if the turbo gets its boot loader unlocked its a more versatile phone to own in terms of supported bands and network capabilities.
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ccheww said:
So theoretically speaking according the stats of the supported bands the droid turbo rooted and unlocked would be a better phone to have then the moto maxx?
It appears turbo has all the bands the maxx has AND more...
This being said, if the turbo gets its boot loader unlocked its a more versatile phone to own in terms of supported bands and network capabilities.
Sent from my XT1254
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Theoretically and In paper, yes, it would be a more reliable phone.

ccheww said:
So theoretically speaking according the stats of the supported bands the droid turbo rooted and unlocked would be a better phone to have then the moto maxx?
It appears turbo has all the bands the maxx has AND more...
This being said, if the turbo gets its boot loader unlocked its a more versatile phone to own in terms of supported bands and network capabilities.
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Here is (from the FCC filings) the Droid, LTE bands 2/3/4/7/13 and the Maxx, LTE bands 2/4/5/7/17 so not the same and not more. The 3G isn't significant because almost everywhere either one is going to work. This means neither is better for any one person, which one will be depends on which carrier you employ in your home area, not the hardware. I say this because almost no phone will have 100% coverage (if a carrier is using a freq your phone has it) for more than 1 or 2 networks in any given area. In the states for instance the Droid has this on Verizon but no where else and the Maxx has it on AT&T but not any other carrier. If you for example use either on Tmo you will sometimes be without LTE because TMO is not fully covered by either phone.
Once you have the best phone for the carrier of choice at home you usually have a choice of several carriers when abroad so you simply get a pre-paid sim on one that supports your phone the best or is cheapest depending on what you want. I usually just go cheap since 3G is fine for short periods when a good savings can be had on a pre-paid which often vary wildly in price depending on various sales and promotions.
I don't see one being better than the other in theory and with the hardware being a push and user needs dependent the differentiation that stands out is the bootloader. One can be unlocked now, one cannot. I don't consider the small bit of bloat on the Droid a factor since it can be easily gone around.

Check this out and request here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660354&page=1645

Droid Razr for CDMA and international shared the same forum section and the development for both phones was fantastic. I think it was because they shared the page that the CDMA development was kept alive. No I don't think they should have separate forums, but that is my opinion.

Galaxo60 said:
Check this out and request here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660354&page=1645
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Thanks

+1 please

there will be forum when it gets released on att and tmobile.

Upgrading to a Moto G?

Hey everyone, I currently have a Samsung Galaxy Nexus since it came out in late 2011. I think it is time to upgrade. I'm not looking to get the latest and greatest, just a phone that is better and more stable then what I currently have. I know the Moto G (2nd gen) does not have much better specs then my existing phone, so would it be worth the upgrade? Any feedback would be great.
I use my phone for email, games, movies, etc. I also regularly try different roms, kernels, etc.,, so a good dev support is important. I want to get the Nexus 5 but I would prefer to save the $ and use it for other things.
Thanks

xmaciek82x said:
Hey everyone, I currently have a Samsung Galaxy Nexus since it came out in late 2011. I think it is time to upgrade. I'm not looking to get the latest and greatest, just a phone that is better and more stable then what I currently have. I know the Moto G (2nd gen) does not have much better specs then my existing phone, so would it be worth the upgrade? Any feedback would be great.
I use my phone for email, games, movies, etc. I also regularly try different roms, kernels, etc.,, so a good dev support is important. I want to get the Nexus 5 but I would prefer to save the $ and use it for other things.
Thanks
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I have one. I really like it. Battery life is not great so I would get a car charger if you intend on using it as a mobile GPS. The form factor is shirt pocket and convenient, the CPU is fast enough so the phone response is good, and it's inexpensive so if you drown it in the crapper you won't be pooping bricks right after it.
But you need to be aware that if you get a new one of these that the carrier has contractually obligated Motorola to not provide a bootloader unlock code, then there is no way to root it. Verizon is one of these carriers. If you can find a used phone that hasn't been upgraded to kitkat 4.4.4 then you CAN unlock it with Sunshine. But the carriers pushed 4.4.4 via OTA the minute it became available and all the new ones come with it.
Right now there's a lot of "developer version" moto G's for sale on Ebay. Apparently Motorola screwed up and marked a large number of them in their database as restricted from unlocking, then went and dumped them on the secondary market. These CAN be unlocked but Motorola is handling unlock requests on those on a case-by-case basis.
Some carriers do not restrict bootloader unlocking. Who is your carrier?

Thanks for the info! I won;t be going through a carrier, I use T-mobile but usually buy my phone somewhere else and don't worry about contracts. I was going to get the xt1063 on amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Moto-2nd-generation-Unlocked/dp/B00MWI4HW0/ref=dp_ob_title_def
It doesn't seem like I should worry about unlocking it and then rooting since it is not carrier specific. My GNEX has an upgraded battery that is the same as the current moto g one, but the moto g has a more efficient processor so I think I'll be ok with the battery life on the moto g.

xmaciek82x said:
Thanks for the info! I won;t be going through a carrier, I use T-mobile but usually buy my phone somewhere else and don't worry about contracts. I was going to get the xt1063 on amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Moto-2nd-generation-Unlocked/dp/B00MWI4HW0/ref=dp_ob_title_def
It doesn't seem like I should worry about unlocking it and then rooting since it is not carrier specific. My GNEX has an upgraded battery that is the same as the current moto g one, but the moto g has a more efficient processor so I think I'll be ok with the battery life on the moto g.
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If you don't plan on going outside the us get the xt1064 instead of global. Updates are not faster on one va the other. Plus the xt1064 has an it's to 5.0.1

I do travel outside the US once in a while. Sorry, I am a little confused by your statement. xt1063 does get updates quicker? What other advantages does 1064 have over 1063?

xmaciek82x said:
I do travel outside the US once in a while. Sorry, I am a little confused by your statement. xt1063 does get updates quicker? What other advantages does 1064 have over 1063?
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They are basically the same phone. The us edition received an update from 21.11.23 to 5.0.1 before the global.
The difference is in the supported bands. The US GSM version includes bands that are used by T-Mobile in the US. Frequency Bands (by model) US GSM Model: (Optimized for T-Mobile US) GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz) UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 1700 (AWS), 1900 MHz) Global GSM Model: (Optimized for AT&T and Global Use) GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz) UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)

So is there still no 5.0.1 for the Global XT1063?

jayjr1105 said:
So is there still no 5.0.1 for the Global XT1063?
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Yes and no..... For XT1063 If your phone comes with 21.11.17 then yes there are 3 otas to flash 22.11.6 22.11.16 and 22.21.25. If it comes with 21.11.23 then you are still waiting for lollipop. For XT1064 if your phone comes with 21.11.17 then you can upgrade only to 5.0 with ota 22.11.6 if it has 22.11.23 there is an ota for 5.0.1 in 22.21.25.
If you are not afraid of unlocking the boot loader then you can flash firmware to get to 5.0.1 either way

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Yes and no..... For XT1063 If your phone comes with 21.11.17 then yes there are 3 otas to flash 22.11.6 22.11.16 and 22.21.25. If it comes with 21.11.23 then you are still waiting for lollipop. For XT1064 if your phone comes with 21.11.17 then you can upgrade only to 5.0 with ota 22.11.6 if it has 22.11.23 there is an ota for 5.0.1 in 22.21.25.
If you are not afraid of unlocking the boot loader then you can flash firmware to get to 5.0.1 either way
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Yep, XT1063 on 21.11.23. Unlocking the BL requires a request to Motorola correct? And it voids warranty automatically?

jayjr1105 said:
Yep, XT1063 on 21.11.23. Unlocking the BL requires a request to Motorola correct? And it voids warranty automatically?
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Yup. Its only 149.99 for me so I didn't care and unlocked the boot loader. If you don't do that its a waiting game for the ota, or someone with root to pull their ota and post.

I have a n5 and my wife has a moto g 2014. Without a doubt pay the extra 100 or 150 and buy the n5. Its better in every way possible, even battery life if you flash elementalX kernal.

My HTC M7 died so I picked a 2nd Gen unlocked G up. Its not bad at all so far we'll see after I get lollipop how it runs.

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I have a n5 and my wife has a moto g 2014. Without a doubt pay the extra 100 or 150 and buy the n5. Its better in every way possible, even battery life if you flash elementalX kernal.
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Clearly spec wise the N5 is a better phone. You're stating the obvious. People buy the Moto G because they want to save some money. That extra $150 could potentially buy you 6 months worth of phone service. Some people value the $ savings vs. having a slightly faster, larger phone.

jayjr1105 said:
Clearly spec wise the N5 is a better phone. You're stating the obvious. People buy the Moto G because they want to save some money. That extra $150 could potentially buy you 6 months worth of phone service. Some people value the $ savings vs. having a slightly faster, larger phone.
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When I said every way possible, I was not referring to merely the specs. Every way possible, including dev support, kernels, roms, n5 is less glitchy, feels better in the hand, better screen quality, etc. etc. . Ive never had a freeze up, or random reboot like my wifes moto g has almost everyday. Id easily pay 150 dollars to avoid having a year of frustration with my phone, that i use every day and rely on. If people like you want to put up with sub par dev, and a glitchy device that feels like a brick, made of dated hardware just to save 150 bucks, have fun with that. Im all for saving money, which is why my wife bought the moto g instead of spending a little more and getting an n5, which I've had problem free since release. Big mistake.

I used to have a Nexus5 which I sold and bought the moto g. For normal everyday use there's no significant difference(at least for me). Battery life was horrible on the nexus, something that was obviously better when I used the elementalx kernel, but the moto g lasts even longer with the exact same use. SOT 5hr 20' on the nexus (with changed kernel) where on the moto g I can easily get 6hours and it's completely stock. My record is 7 hours 6'. And to be honest I never had a reboot having the phone for 3 months now.
Στάλθηκε από το Moto G μου

mark_kou said:
I used to have a Nexus5 which I sold and bought the moto g. For normal everyday use there's no significant difference(at least for me). Battery life was horrible on the nexus, something that was obviously better when I used the elementalx kernel, but the moto g lasts even longer with the exact same use. SOT 5hr 20' on the nexus (with changed kernel) where on the moto g I can easily get 6hours and it's completely stock. My record is 7 hours 6'. And to be honest I never had a reboot having the phone for 3 months now.
Στάλθηκε από το Moto G μου
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Exactly the same situation here...however i gave my nexus 5 to elder brother...
Finally got rid of horrible battery life... Moto g2 runs widout a glitch and more than happy to keep it wid me... Although no custom rom support but i dont care as long as i dont feel the urgency to flash one

I don't have any experience with the n5 but my experience with my new moto g 2014 has been nothing like what lokke9191 is describing. I've had 0 reboots, 0 boot loops and 0 app crashes. Just like anyone else, I need a dependable phone as well and I've had no indication that the moto G 2014 doesn't meet that requirement. I would recommend reading a few reviews on both the moto G 2013 and the 2014 to get a better sense of the bang for your buck these phones give you as far as specs go.
I'm on Tmobile and passed up the opportunity to get a moto x for $340 and couldn't be happier with my moto g. I got a Consumer Cellular xt1064 from Sears for $150 and paid $3 for an unlock code on Ebay. I needed tethering so the first thing I did was get a stock xt1064 KitKat ROM (21.11.23) and I've stuck with it since (I'm not going to go to Lollipop yet because of the reports of bugs across almost all Android devices).
Edit: @OP: I would look very carefully into xt1063 vs xt1064 - the Consumer Cellular Sears models appear to be xt1064 and not xt1063. Also, I don't know if the xt1063 will get H+ on Tmobile but the xt1064 definitely does. If the xt1063 doesn't get H+ you're going to be stuck on 2G.
Finally, I don't think it is fair to compare XDA support for the n5 to that of the moto g 2014 - the n5 has been out way longer than the moto g 2014. I had no trouble finding what I needed on XDA to get the stock Motorola KitKat installed (vs the Consumer Cellular ROM). Also, depending on what the needs of the OP are, custom ROMs could be a total waste of time.

My wife's moto G has been fantastic in every way. Battery is 3 times better than her Galaxy S2, 0 random reboots or any nonsense like that. She is on Straight Talk $45 unlimited plan. Plain and simple it's an amazing phone for $150. I do regret getting the global version over the US. I will likely stick with AT&T prepaid providers but it would have been nice to have Tmobile as an option. Still is just no 4G.

On day 3 now and haven't had a single random reboot or any problems. Battery life has been great and lollipop is running without a hitch.
Also I have the unlocked US version on tmobile and don't really feel the loss of LTE with what I do.
Great phone for the price

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On day 3 now and haven't had a single random reboot or any problems. Battery life has been great and lollipop is running without a hitch.
Also I have the unlocked US version on tmobile and don't really feel the loss of LTE with what I do.
Great phone for the price
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LTE is overrated in my opinion

WiFi Calling for the T-Mobile version?

This is a thread to discuss any findings, in regards to WiFi calling for the Moto X Style/2015/Pure.

Since there is going to be one unlocked version for all carriers, I'm guessing it's going to be included a carrier's software delivery service in the phone that when you log into your network, it download all the bloatwares for that specific carriers to your phone, or not.
I guess they won't have it because previous Moto X didn't have it either.

The Nexus 6 recently got updated to Android 5.1.1 which addressed the Wi-Fi Calling feature add-on baked in. In fact, from what I've read, T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling is open source and Google directly worked with it to incorporate it natively in Android M, basically have the feature baked in. Having the previous in mind, I would think the Moto X Style will eventually have this feature, especially once it is updated to Android M, which should be soon after Android M is officially released by Google. Any other thoughts?

dannycarrasco8708 said:
...I would think the Moto X Style will eventually have this feature, especially once it is updated to Android M, which should be soon after Android M is officially released by Google. Any other thoughts?
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I keep forgetting that Android M feature and the fact T-Mobile is one of few carriers ready to support it .
That settles it for sure.
I'm waiting for September, to buy a Moto X Pure/Style.
The current Nexus 6 T-Mobile WiFi calling, requires the T-Mobile ROM for that device AFAIK. With the Moto Pure, we'll be able to have the true Moto Unlocked ROM and WiFi calling via Android M. Zero need for any T-Mobile controlled ROM.

Darnell_Chat_TN said:
I keep forgetting that Android M feature and the fact T-Mobile is one of few carriers ready to support it .
That settles it for sure.
I'm waiting for September, to buy a Moto X Pure/Style.
The current Nexus 6 T-Mobile WiFi calling, requires the T-Mobile ROM for that device AFAIK. With the Moto Pure, we'll be able to have the true Moto Unlocked ROM and WiFi calling via Android M. Zero need for any T-Mobile controlled ROM.
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Unfortunately that's just theoretical. AFAIK there has been nothing communicated by anybody that this would actually happen.

NCguy said:
Unfortunately that's just theoretical. AFAIK there has been nothing communicated by anybody that this would actually happen.
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It's 100% fact and already being used.

Darnell_Chat_TN said:
It's 100% fact and already being used.
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At a minimum it needs radio and firmware support. I haven't seen moto promise any support for wifi calling in any of their devices for M at this point. I believe its possible but mostly wishful thinking.

NCguy said:
At a minimum it needs radio and firmware support. I haven't seen moto promise any support for wifi calling in any of their devices for M at this point. I believe its possible but mostly wishful thinking.
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It's not as if they said the device won't have support. Do you even have record of them ever being asked? I feel it likely will. But we will see in very short time.
If not, I still prefer the Moto X Pure. But I see nothing to support pessimism on it at this point.
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Never got it why people stick to tmobile if they have no good coverage...
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
It's not as if they said the device won't have support. Do you even have record of them ever being asked? I feel it likely will. But we will see in very short time.
If not, I still prefer the Moto X Pure. But I see nothing to support pessimism on it at this point.
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My point was you had nothing to confirm that it was going to happen. I never said I had confirmation that it wasn't.
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ambervals6 said:
Never got it why people stick to tmobile if they have no good coverage...
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It's a cult thing. I drink the cool aide.

ambervals6 said:
Never got it why people stick to tmobile if they have no good coverage...
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Obviously nobody is going to pay a carrier for phone service if they cannot make calls. So, we who have T-Mobile must be getting coverage for our usual needs.
WiFi calling for me, would be a plus for the few times a year I am at a place where I cannot get phone coverage. And in some of those cases, AT&T devices can't get a signal either.
I should also mention, there is no "radio" support required. I've used T-Mobile WiFi calling on devices, where I flashed non-T-Mobile radios and with the T-Mobile ROM the WiFi calling still worked. So the WiFi calling is all in the ROM and that is what Google has in Android M. I've already cited above, that people using Android M previews are already using this with no issues. So, it will work with the Moto X Pure and there's zero to indicate otherwise.

NCguy said:
My point was you had nothing to confirm that it was going to happen. I never said I had confirmation that it wasn't.
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It's a cult thing. I drink the cool aide.
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I would switch to T-mobile is a flash if I didn't have to drive a mile from my house to make a phone call.

If you have WFi and a phone that has WiFi Calling anabled, then you don't have to drive a mile.
Fact is that you should find a carrier that suits your needs. For me, I'm in a huge metro area, but my parents live a little further out from a major city. BOOM! WiFi Calling solves the issue.
Cheaper plans, great feature, no problems.
DaleGriggs said:
I would switch to T-mobile is a flash if I didn't have to drive a mile from my house to make a phone call.
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Looks like WiFi Calling will not be supported - https://twitter.com/askdes/status/629308037405093888
Not sure what will happen once Android M is released though

Hmm. Guess you have to go with a carrier branded T-Mobile phone to get all of the cool features (wifi calling, hd voice, advanced text messaging, etc).
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thegreatone3 said:
Hmm. Guess you have to go with a carrier branded T-Mobile phone to get all of the cool features (wifi calling, hd voice, advanced text messaging, etc).
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Wonder if T-Mobile will even carrier it ... I'm fairly new to T-Mo (with them less than a year) but I don't recall them carrying either of the other X devices.

Motorola was pretty proud of the fact that they were bypassing the carriers entirely for their new devices. Problem is, it looks like their phones will be neutered compared to the carrier branded ones (at least for some T-Mobile feature). Guess I'll be waiting for the next Nexus to see what happens there.
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YankInDaSouth said:
Looks like WiFi Calling will not be supported - https://twitter.com/askdes/status/629308037405093888
Not sure what will happen once Android M is released though
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This was a given, since it's not running a T-Mobile ROM. But it already works in Android M preview ROMs. So we know for certain it will work without a T-Mobile ROM running M.

Is there a relationship between volte and band 12? I see them always mentioned together. Can you not do volte on bands 2 or 4?

I plan on testing the M preview radios out once I unlock it. I can also check into the band support from QXDM, etc. and see what would be necessary to get it going. Either way, I can easily see wifi calling working with it.