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Xoom ICS images soon to be available

Just saw this mail from JBQ on 'Android Building' groups:
I'm pushing the source code for Android 4.0.3 to AOSP. This matches
build IML74K. Kernel sources will follow as soon as practical.
Over the years, I've released 50 different versions of Android in
AOSP, not counting the SDK and CTS, and I think that this is the best
release ever.
Some noteworthy items:
-This version of Android is optimized for a wide range of devices. It
works on phones. It works on tablets. It works on devices that don't
quite have the horsepower of a Galaxy Nexus.
-From a straight AOSP, it works on Galaxy Nexus (the ones sold with
mysid and yakju builds), on Motorola Xoom (US variants), and on Nexus
S (all variants). Proprietary binaries will soon be available for
those devices at the usual location.
-Out of the box, this is the first time that AOSP works on 3 different
device families, the first time that it works on tablets, the first
time that it works directly on a device that's neither an ADP nor a
Nexus, and the first time that it works on Verizon devices.
JBQ
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Could we expect ICS images for the Xoom soon ?
Unfortunately I'm unable to post a link to that google group page - You can check out the 'The source code for Android 4.0.3 is now available' email thread in the 'Android Building' google groups.

You can't but I can
http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/msg/d73844b1c48f07bb
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Does this mean we could literally put ICS on the xoom now, or is there still a step to take to get a working image?
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JBQ just posted another email in the same thread releasing the proprietary binaries for the drivers, as well as the android-4.0.3_r1 for the AOSP git sources.
So I assume, if you build the AOSP sources with these binaries extracted in the right place, you'd be able to compile an image that would work on the Xoom.
I'm gonna try that tonight

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/android-building/mjEzwvc_J4k
"Below are the direct links to the various proprietary binaries. The
web page will update in the next few hours."

how long does it take to compile from AOSP again?
EDIT: and no this is not a request for a ETA

Lol, if I knew how to do this, aosp for xoom would be released in as long ad it takes to compile it and make it flashable.
Is anyone who is able, willing to do this for us not in the know? Please!?
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I think CyanogenMOD takes about 40 mins on a modern computer to build based on something I read. This will vary widely based on your CPU performance obviously. But this is probably a good ballpark: over 30 mins for a full build I'd say based on what I've read.

redmaner said:
You can't but I can
http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/msg/d73844b1c48f07bb
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He said the xoom camera doesn't work =(

I think it was something like 4 hours on a 2x quad-core machine with 16 GB of RAM. Can't be bothered to look up the source now.
I'm compiling it now on my dual-Xeon W5687 machine w/72 GB of RAM.
This guide is pretty good: http://www.freeyourandroid.com/guide/compile-ics
Follow the instructions for the Nexus and when you get to "lunch" this page will help:
http://source.android.com/source/building.html
3G/4G users want "full_stingray-userdebug".
Wi-Fi users want "full_wingray-userdebug".
New: Apparently you have to download the binaries and do a make clobber before you do a make according to this page: http://source.android.com/source/building-devices.html. Time to recompile
Note that is required that you use Ubuntu x64 (I'm currently using 10.04.3 LTS)

g1ddy said:
He said the xoom camera doesn't work =(
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who said it doesnt work in 4.0.3? everything should work out of the box according to JBQ
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AzN1337c0d3r said:
I think it was something like 4 hours on a 2x quad-core machine with 16 GB of RAM. Can't be bothered to look up the source now.
I'm compiling it now on my dual-Xeon W5687 machine w/72 GB of RAM.
This guide is pretty good: http://www.freeyourandroid.com/guide/compile-ics
Follow the instructions for the Nexus and when you get to "lunch" this page will help:
http://source.android.com/source/building.html
3G/4G users want "full_stingray-userdebug".
Wi-Fi users want "full_wingray-userdebug".
Note that is required that you use Ubuntu x64 (I'm currently using 10.04.3 LTS)
Looks like I overestimated the time it took to compile, it is done after 20 minutes. Now to test it
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which xoom are you compiling for? if your test are successful will you be sharing?

shakuyi said:
who said it doesnt work in 4.0.3? everything should work out of the box according to JBQ
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which xoom are you compiling for? if your test are successful will you be sharing?
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JBQ himself
http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/msg/4000560ec550c8fe

Right now I am compiling for Xoom Wi-Fi (as it is the Xoom that I have). I have to go off to see my friend's graduation so I wont be back for 3 hours at least.
If the Wi-Fi one works, I'll compile 3G/4G if someone hasn't beaten me to the punch yet.

aaaand to some how release it for the rest of us...???

g1ddy said:
JBQ himself
http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/msg/4000560ec550c8fe
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eh how often do you hold this big thing to take a picture anyways lol, no HDMI sucks but no biggie never had a use for it but have the HDMI cable lol

AzN1337c0d3r thanks! Looking forward to it!

Yeah, not a huge deal for me, but if we get ICS on the xoom, the speed and stability by itself is worth it!
am I correct in assuming that the camera and HDMI will eventually be fixed? We aren't talking permanent incompatibilities, are we?

ScottRTL said:
Yeah, not a huge deal for me, but if we get ICS on the xoom, the speed and stability by itself is worth it!
am I correct in assuming that the camera and HDMI will eventually be fixed? We aren't talking permanent incompatibilities, are we?
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lol no way will it be permanent we wont see an official update until they go those 2 items fixed, but it doesnt mean we wont have ROMs to use sooner than later!

ScottRTL said:
Yeah, not a huge deal for me, but if we get ICS on the xoom, the speed and stability by itself is worth it!
am I correct in assuming that the camera and HDMI will eventually be fixed? We aren't talking permanent incompatibilities, are we?
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These are most likely things that Motorola will have to handle themselves (especially the Camera).
Surprised by the lack of HDMI support however, I would have expected that part to be handled by the Tegra2-related bins. But not a big deal for me either.

shakuyi said:
lol no way will it be permanent we wont see an official update until they go those 2 items fixed, but it doesnt mean we wont have ROMs to use sooner than later!
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That's what I figured, just thought it was odd that the AOSP is released "officially supporting" Xoom, and the camera and HDMI out don't work... Or, is it just a generic tablet AOSP build and only some of the drivers or something...?

Ubuntu Phone OS - Should we expect it on our N1's?

Today Ubuntu Phone OS was announced, and it seems like it'd be officialy demonstrated running on a Galaxy Nexus. What about our olden but golden Nexus Ones? Personally I hope that if the code's available, given the work done already we'll have roms as functional as ICS/JB roms soon enough

I am wondering the same.

Shouldn't think so, the N1's storage is piss poor.

well , on ubuntu site the wrote that there new phone OS should work fine on any android device , BTW it would be easy to port it couse they use exactly the same android drivers for hardware

will be great to have it on our nexus
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"an image for the Galaxy nexus will be available in the next couple of weeks" !!
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Minimum specs needs for ubuntu Phone OS to rum smoothly are :
1ghz prossesor
512mb ram
800x480.
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some one works for canonical said : " It's as easy as flashing a new rom... you flash ubuntu from cwm and you have ubuntu, go back to the recovery and flash android or your backup "
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Proper Ubuntu phones are promised to be out in early 2014, but the company has a number of demo phones out here in London and downloadable images of the development platform will be available for the Galaxy Nexus over the next couple of weeks. That's the only officially supported device for now, which Canonical expects developers to be working on as they start fleshing out the ecosystem.
Source: http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/2/382...s-announcement

It should be made clear: 1GHz Cortex A9 cpu is in the minimum requirements, ours is A8. Should it be considered possible?
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well , we don't know if it's possible or not now ..
the manager of canonical in the interview with engadget , he said : " installing ubuntu on any mobile phone would be easy just like installing ubuntu on any pc ! "

That's true if he owns a Galaxy Nexus or a quad-core device. We are at very low edge in comparison.
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I saw the video clip of Ubuntu Phone OS. That thing looks awesome. Can't wait for it to get ported to the N1
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Nognir said:
It should be made clear: 1GHz Cortex A9 cpu is in the minimum requirements, ours is A8. Should it be considered possible?
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Here is an excerpt from Ubuntu's website:
Technical specifications
Ubuntu for Android requires minimal custom hardware enablement, allowing fast and cost-efficient core integration. It requires a core based on Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) or any subsequent version.
Ubuntu and Android share the same kernel. When docked, the Ubuntu OS boots and runs concurrently with Android. This allows both mobile and desktop functionality to co-exist in different runtimes.
Shared services and applications are delivered using a Convergence API module which ensures the tight integration between desktop and mobile environments. Work is balanced across the cores of the phone. When the handset is not docked, both CPU cores transfer their full power to Android

Nognir said:
Today Ubuntu Phone OS was announced, and it seems like it'd be officialy demonstrated running on a Galaxy Nexus. What about our olden but golden Nexus Ones? Personally I hope that if the code's available, given the work done already we'll have roms as functional as ICS/JB roms soon enough
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A XDA member, zedomax, posted a video clip of ported Ubuntu to Nexus One back in July 2010, read this post for more details http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718952
If you want to run Ubuntu on N1, follow the steps here http://nexusonehacks.net/nexus-one-hacks/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-your-android/

taodan said:
A XDA member, zedomax, posted a video clip of ported Ubuntu to Nexus One back in July 2010, read this post for more details http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718952
If you want to run Ubuntu on N1, follow the steps here http://nexusonehacks.net/nexus-one-hacks/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-your-android/
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This is not the same as the recently announced Ubuntu Phone OS. You are linking to the chroot method which still requires you boot into android. We need a native port for it to be at all useful for our N1.

That's about Ubuntu for Android. An entirely different thing.
Edit: missed quoting, please delete this post
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taodan said:
I saw the video clip of Ubuntu Phone OS. That thing looks awesome. Can't wait for it to get ported to the N1
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Here is an excerpt from Ubuntu's website:
Technical specifications
Ubuntu for Android requires minimal custom hardware enablement, allowing fast and cost-efficient core integration. It requires a core based on Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) or any subsequent version.
Ubuntu and Android share the same kernel. When docked, the Ubuntu OS boots and runs concurrently with Android. This allows both mobile and desktop functionality to co-exist in different runtimes.
Shared services and applications are delivered using a Convergence API module which ensures the tight integration between desktop and mobile environments. Work is balanced across the cores of the phone. When the handset is not docked, both CPU cores transfer their full power to Android
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That's about Ubuntu for Android. An entirely different thing.
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In sensation forum Someone said : it's the dalvik-vm which makes our phone laggy and Ubuntu wont use it so it'll be hyper-smooth
I hope it will be smooth on our N1
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I'm afraid there won't be 'official' Ubuntu Phone OS for our N1

marcoant said:
I'm afraid there won't be 'official' Ubuntu Phone OS for our N1
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That's what I think as well. The differences between Cortex A8 and A9 can prove crucial for the porting of the OS to older chipsets. Especially if the code relies heavily on floating point operations where A8 is extremely slower than A9.
But we can always hope and wait:fingers-crossed:

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/porting-ubuntu-touch-is-as-simple-as-building-cm/
"The instructions for porting are pretty straightforward. Since Ubuntu Touch is just a CyanogenMod 10.1 base with the Ubuntu Touch interface running in a container and accessed via chroot, if your device currently runs CM10.1 then you’ll be able to port this."
Sounds promising.

Until you realise part of what you need is a 400MB+ flashable .zip

texasice just ported Ubuntu for N1. Its very pre alpha with minimal features.. . but he did it

Fire TV 2.0: Available October 5

Come and get it:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00U3FPN4U/

Any idea if this is worldwide or only for the US?

freezer2k said:
Any idea if this is worldwide or only for the US?
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Its not official (reliable source though) so I doubt anyone knows. Based on history Id say US only but I dont follow every amazon product. Should know in around 24 hours.

freezer2k said:
Any idea if this is worldwide or only for the US?
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I've seen decent hints that it's world wide, but couldn't get it confirmed so I didn't mention it in the article.

Any infos about the hardware specification?

AFTVnews.com said:
I've seen decent hints that it's world wide, but couldn't get it confirmed so I didn't mention it in the article.
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Now showing unavailable in UK and German stores (that was before the new one came out!)

You cant find it on the german amazon store
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00U3...ds=fire+tv&dpPl=1&dpID=31t3CwdjAXL&ref=plSrch
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4k and 75% more processing power.
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Not in UK or EU stores yet.

I wish they would have held off a bit longer and based the OS on Android M for the external storage improvements. Maybe an update or a future model? All in all, looks like a nice upgrade. 4k video, faster cpu and Alexa voice control. Honestly though, if they release an upgrade for the original FireTV that has Alexa then that's all I really care about.

Well now I am glad I don't feel any pressure on my wallet to upgrade!
Nothing that grabs me in the new list as "must buy".

I ordered the gamer model, should be a decent upgrade from the stick. Plus the stick with tvaddons might pay half of I sell it right
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The real specs... (no GPU clock speed,dammit)
Processor: MediaTek Quad-core up to 2 Ghz Dual-core @ 2.0 GHz + Dual-core @ 1.6 GHz
GPU: Power VR GX6250
Could this run Dolphin emulator,or Yabause (OpenGL ES 3.x plugin),or not crash with Reicast?
What will the results be in Mupen64Plus AE's latest alpha build and GLideN64,I wonder.

Damn... disappointing upgrade specs for sure. I understand budget constraints, but i really was craving more umph. The 6250 is already an older chip, matching the Adreno 330 from 2013.
Before you jump on me, i know it is an upgrade from the OG FTV, but that doesn't mean they couldn't do better than that.
REally considering upgrading to an Nvidia box in the future now.. bummer...

Did anyone find a side by side comparison of first and second generation tvs? I can check the status myself, but thought it might have been done before.
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No Thank you, I decide go for Nivdia Shield Pro (Android TV), They are most powerful, available TWRP recovery, and unlocked boot-loader and already have custom ROM available. Only difference is Price cheaper in Amazon Fire TV compare to Nivdia Shield Pro but HEY the Nivdia Shield Pro is a worth to have it!
http://shield.nvidia.com/android-tv/shield-androidtv-vs-appletv-vs-roku-vs-firetv
I am getting tired of Amazon locked down boot-loader, and recovery. I still have my original Fire TV with unlocked boot-loader, and rooted, and It still lackluster development except @rbox pre-rooted ROM.

ldeveraux said:
Did anyone find a side by side comparison of first and second generation tvs? I can check the status myself, but thought it might have been done before.
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https://developer.amazon.com/public...re-tv/docs/device-and-platform-specifications

jpeg42 said:
https://developer.amazon.com/public...re-tv/docs/device-and-platform-specifications
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awesome! So 4k, New cpu, New gpu, sd card and better Wi-Fi.
Still not worth the upgrade...
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USB:
FTV 2: USB 2.0 Type A (Accessories only)
FTV Stick: Micro USB 2.0 (Power only)
FTV (1st gen): USB 2.0 Type A (Accessories and storage)
So ... no connecting external HDs on the new one then since it doesn't mention storage?

So what is the chance of the new fire tv accepting exfat sdcards or usb sticks? The 4gb limit of fat32 is bollocks.
And what about the original firetv by software update with the fireOs5?

It can play TV episodes and movies in 4K Ultra HD on Amazon Video.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00U3FPN4U?gwSec=1&ref_=ods_gw_d_LG9_JL_SMP_AFTV4K
But can it play titles in 4K Ultra HD with HDR on Amazon Video?
http://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=11652987011
It should have HDMI 2.0a for playing HDR titles.

REMIX OS for shield TV?

I just found the shield TV was an officially supported device by Remix os.
there is the ROM http://www.jide.com/remixos/devices/shieldtv
it seems it is lollipop based and have no hardware acceleration yet.
did someone tried it and is willing to give a feedback?

EDIT: I didn't read the post properly, response removed.

deedscreen said:
EDIT: I didn't read the post properly, response removed.
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it is OK,i t was entertaining still

what type to use ,16G? 500G HDD?

leasing said:
what type to use ,16G? 500G HDD?
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same image for both.but 500gb shield will be a lots slower to install.
(formating)

This remix os version is for the Shield Pro, it's lollipop based so if anyone's on marshmallow and want to try it, you will have to downgrade in order to install

It would be amazing if we could dual boot this ROM (on Lollipop) and the stock Android TV on Marshmallow.maybe with AROMA and
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deedscreen said:
It would be amazing if we could dual boot this ROM (on Lollipop) and the stock Android TV on Marshmallow.maybe with AROMA and
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so true,to bad twrp does not support multiple rom on this device.
that suck.
in the other hand jide just leaked some info about remix 3.0 marshmallow.
that will be released very soon.

Remix is still a little glitchy & controller does not work wirelessly. Every other time Play Store is opened one must uninstall Play update, can be solved by installing the latest Play Store apk

techjunky90 said:
Remix is still a little glitchy & controller does not work wirelessly. Every other time Play Store is opened one must uninstall Play update, can be solved by installing the latest Play Store apk
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Ho OK thx. Yes the controller and play store was expected.it is not the first that have this problem (Zulu roms)

Nvidia need to release the driver,they will make less holding back the controller wifi driver,as all it seems is a vain attempt to promote geforce now sales and percentage earnings via play store etc on shield tv.The chances are the units would fly off the shelves far faster than they ever would make more selling the games in a cloud subscription gaming service by miles,I'd see it as it would gain us notoriety for the hardware if I were a boss there,and that's everything brand recognition trumps trying to sell subscriptions to a sparse game library,and android tv os is just so young and uninteresting to some developers I am picturing it,this is why they are not rebuilding or porting current libraries of apps and games to the os.They probably see it more rewarding to keep with the standard os than plug money into an unknown variable,unless of course the fault lies with googles turn around on verifying the allready ported apps and games,this confuses me why is android tv os so sparse on apps and games and where does the blame lie in versions of apps and games for the android tv os lie anyway google and or the developer can someone elaborate where the blame goes please as I am confused what the problem is?

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Nvidia need to release the driver,they will make less holding back the controller wifi driver,as all it seems is a vain attempt to promote geforce now sales and percentage earnings via play store etc on shield tv.The chances are the units would fly off the shelves far faster than they ever would make more selling the games in a cloud subscription gaming service by miles,I'd see it as it would gain us notoriety for the hardware if I were a boss there,and that's everything brand recognition trumps trying to sell subscriptions to a sparse game library,and android tv os is just so young and uninteresting to some developers I am picturing it,this is why they are not rebuilding or porting current libraries of apps and games to the os.They probably see it more rewarding to keep with the standard os than plug money into an unknown variable,unless of course the fault lies with googles turn around on verifying the allready ported apps and games,this confuses me why is android tv os so sparse on apps and games and where does the blame lie in versions of apps and games for the android tv os lie anyway google and or the developer can someone elaborate where the blame goes please as I am confused what the problem is?
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I assume for the play store the problem is from Google..
they offer different licencing for basically the same thing as Android..
but they have split Android and Android TV only because they wanted to earn more money.
splitting the licencing mean 2 time the money for them...
protecting a different experiences for living rooms.
for streaming stuff and controller you can blame nvidia for promoting their proprietary services and technology.
the cloud,the streaming and their "high "bandwidth "controllers.

Ah now I get it it's due to greed,make money by calling the same thing a different thing by slapping a launcher in it and saying yeah you can list your game in android tv os as well,but you know it's a different thing to normal android os because it's tv os! But actually it's android with a different shell they charge you again for just to list in the same play store for it,that's what people where i live call pure skank lol :good: thumbs up goolge no wonder everyone isn't jumping on the development side of this cash cow all at once lmfao,why the heck would you discourage before encourage if the aim is profit here???But thanks for this insight I never realized they'd do such a thing,it's theoretically a bit unbecoming of a open source os owner to start cashing in twice a time in my opinion it's a little bit cruel,maybe if they'd say earn your 1st year before paying a fee that would be better for anyone coming in as a first time publisher of apps or games,instead of being told give me your money then I'll list your game or app,who cares if it's not affordable because all your time and effort is spent making the app or game come to fruition for the purpose of then publishing it.Or even better incentives is 1 years free publishing and then a fee is paid regardless if you take it down or not,it gives a push to put good stuff up and not lowsy stuff otherwise you make nothing to pay with in the first year,why not work it door swings both ways like that,or a 2 year grace period is even better,it would mean better quality product is likely made,and money for the developer to afford to pay is highly likely at that stage.

I almost made a new topic for this, but decided to revive this one instead. Jide just released v3 of Remix OS for the Google Pixel C...... which has the same CPU/GPU as the Shield TV does, so theoretically this should make it a hell of a lot easier to get it working on the Shield.
I've been using it on my Pixel for about the past 48 hours and I absolutely love it. I'm trying to re-arrange my PCs in my apartment and I'm looking for a high performance, low power PC to put in my bedroom as a replacement for my Steam Machine (currently streaming stuff from it to the Shield in the living room), and the Shield with Remix would be the perfect candidate since I already know it suits my needs and is really snappy.
The question is, who's up to the challenge to get it to work? I know nothing about Android development, but I'm more than willing to help with development and provide anything necessary off of the Pixel, which shouldn't be a problem since I have Remix OS currently rooted

brando56894 said:
The question is, who's up to the challenge to get it to work? I know nothing about Android development, but I'm more than willing to help with development and provide anything necessary off of the Pixel, which shouldn't be a problem since I have Remix OS currently rooted
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I guess they will release a V3 to Shield TV soon, so I dont think thats neccessary.
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tailslol said:
I assume for the play store the problem is from Google..
they offer different licencing for basically the same thing as Android..
but they have split Android and Android TV only because they wanted to earn more money.
splitting the licencing mean 2 time the money for them...
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I dont understand? All my apps that I bought originally for standard Android devices work fine without having to rerpurchase. This even goes for apps I bought a few years back. I dont see Google splittimg licencing between devices, rather the opposite. And thats why Im perfectly happy with my Shield TV. If you look at Apple, they did what you talk about, releasing phone / tablet and I guess ATV versions of apps making customers have to repurchase.

Remix os uses a different license than android

They still have to release the source code, the kernel is Linux and the OS is Android, both are open source and licensed under the GPL so by law they have to release the source code of at least that, which is the major part we need. Also Nvidias drivers and source code are released so what are we really missing? I just read the article on XDA and its talking about Android-X86, but this is Android ARM, which is a different beast. Jide mentioned that they hosted their code on github, but surprise, surprise its empty https://github.com/jide-opensource. This seems to be their real repository: https://github.com/JideTechnology
Also I wouldn't be too sure of them releasing it for the shield since they already sell their own desktop/media center device.
Edit: looks like I was wrong Android is licensed under the Apache license, which means that a company can take the source code, modify it and change the license but the still have to release the code for the unmodified parts
Still me thinks it shouldn't be too difficult since they're using the same CPU and GPU, but the pixel is essentially a Chromebook and the shield has no screen or touch input, just an HDMI port, so it may be way more difficult than I think.

bingoking said:
I guess they will release a V3 to Shield TV soon, so I dont think thats neccessary.
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I dont understand? All my apps that I bought originally for standard Android devices work fine without having to rerpurchase. This even goes for apps I bought a few years back. I dont see Google splittimg licencing between devices, rather the opposite. And thats why Im perfectly happy with my Shield TV. If you look at Apple, they did what you talk about, releasing phone / tablet and I guess ATV versions of apps making customers have to repurchase.
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The licensing is on dev side.not on customer side.

this would be amazing

Pokemon Go

Anyone excited for this game and found out our devices arent supported because of the intel chip?
it sucks...

I'll fix the broken Moto G 2014 to play it.
I tried to run in stock lollipop. Anyone tried it on custom roms?

Dan_Jacques said:
I'll fix the broken Moto G 2014 to play it.
I tried to run in stock lollipop. Anyone tried it on custom roms?
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lucky for you.
had no spare phone, play some first gen pokemon will help i guess

Iqballoon said:
lucky for you.
had no spare phone, play some first gen pokemon will help i guess
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i hope they add support for our phones, i wanna be the very best man, otherwise ill have to sell this phone, it's been disappointing me alot.

Starr a petition for the support?

I don't care about MM update... I just want to play Pokémon Go!

I've had a few issues now with the zenfone. I regret buying this after my oneplus died.

cm13 cant play

No f*** way, really I hate Asus now this is the last time I'm buying this crap, paid 400$ with an SD and couple of covers, I should've bought one plus two instead...

Remember guys, if software isn't working, it's the software manufacturer's job to get it fixed. In this case, I'm guessing the developers of the Pokemon game compiled it specifically for non-Intel SoC's... so you would want to send your petition to the Pokemon game developer to also compile Intel libraries.

I was in 2nd phase of the beta test and even then they never took the time to compile for x86 phones. I can't completely blame them either as it seems it's very out of the way to compile for x86 or Intel based phones as well. Another game called Fantasy War Tactics kinda had the same problem recently where they did a few updates that also broke compatibility for x86 so maybe it's not entirely their fault either. In the end we are just gonna have to wait patiently.
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I think they are being lazy since a properly made app would never have issues with x86 compilation

If I had to guess it flagged the anti cheat stuff. Who knows. I'm frustrated with this phone.

Yes let's start the petition now!

Here is a link to a petition that has currently 1,481 supporters.https://www.change.org/p/niantic-pokemon-go-intel-processor?recruiter=369210296&utm_source=petitions_show_components_action_panel_wrapper&utm_medium=copylink

Nowadays a few tablets also use Intel SoC, so I guess more and more people will start complaining and the developers will eventually have to care about compatibility and compiling for x86 platforms. If they want the game to spread, they will have to support as many systems as possible.
I'm not going to regret buying this phone just for one game. This is a smartphone, not a PS4.

The phone runs pretty good regardless of not playing a couple of games.
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but couldn't anyone make believe app somehow that we have another different processor from intel? Sorry for the bad english
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because even if the petition is accepted, we still have to wait for July 15 or more, and I want to play Pokémon go as soon as possible ahahaha

Why is everyone blaming the phone manufacturer?
This isn't their issue if one or two games/apps don't work as its the app developers responsibility.
Moreover pokemon go isn't supported for windows phones as well, so should we start a petition to ban microsoft?
Very sad to see these kind of posts even after knowing asus is trying its best to provide for timely updates.
Also even if pokemon go comes to support z2 we won't be able to play it for more than 1-1/2 hours in one charge due to our battery life issues.

The regret comes from Intel. Seems they pushed and then mostly abandoned this market. Sigh.