Just saw this mail from JBQ on 'Android Building' groups:
I'm pushing the source code for Android 4.0.3 to AOSP. This matches
build IML74K. Kernel sources will follow as soon as practical.
Over the years, I've released 50 different versions of Android in
AOSP, not counting the SDK and CTS, and I think that this is the best
release ever.
Some noteworthy items:
-This version of Android is optimized for a wide range of devices. It
works on phones. It works on tablets. It works on devices that don't
quite have the horsepower of a Galaxy Nexus.
-From a straight AOSP, it works on Galaxy Nexus (the ones sold with
mysid and yakju builds), on Motorola Xoom (US variants), and on Nexus
S (all variants). Proprietary binaries will soon be available for
those devices at the usual location.
-Out of the box, this is the first time that AOSP works on 3 different
device families, the first time that it works on tablets, the first
time that it works directly on a device that's neither an ADP nor a
Nexus, and the first time that it works on Verizon devices.
JBQ
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Could we expect ICS images for the Xoom soon ?
Unfortunately I'm unable to post a link to that google group page - You can check out the 'The source code for Android 4.0.3 is now available' email thread in the 'Android Building' google groups.
You can't but I can
http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/msg/d73844b1c48f07bb
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Does this mean we could literally put ICS on the xoom now, or is there still a step to take to get a working image?
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JBQ just posted another email in the same thread releasing the proprietary binaries for the drivers, as well as the android-4.0.3_r1 for the AOSP git sources.
So I assume, if you build the AOSP sources with these binaries extracted in the right place, you'd be able to compile an image that would work on the Xoom.
I'm gonna try that tonight
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/android-building/mjEzwvc_J4k
"Below are the direct links to the various proprietary binaries. The
web page will update in the next few hours."
how long does it take to compile from AOSP again?
EDIT: and no this is not a request for a ETA
Lol, if I knew how to do this, aosp for xoom would be released in as long ad it takes to compile it and make it flashable.
Is anyone who is able, willing to do this for us not in the know? Please!?
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I think CyanogenMOD takes about 40 mins on a modern computer to build based on something I read. This will vary widely based on your CPU performance obviously. But this is probably a good ballpark: over 30 mins for a full build I'd say based on what I've read.
redmaner said:
You can't but I can
http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/msg/d73844b1c48f07bb
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He said the xoom camera doesn't work =(
I think it was something like 4 hours on a 2x quad-core machine with 16 GB of RAM. Can't be bothered to look up the source now.
I'm compiling it now on my dual-Xeon W5687 machine w/72 GB of RAM.
This guide is pretty good: http://www.freeyourandroid.com/guide/compile-ics
Follow the instructions for the Nexus and when you get to "lunch" this page will help:
http://source.android.com/source/building.html
3G/4G users want "full_stingray-userdebug".
Wi-Fi users want "full_wingray-userdebug".
New: Apparently you have to download the binaries and do a make clobber before you do a make according to this page: http://source.android.com/source/building-devices.html. Time to recompile
Note that is required that you use Ubuntu x64 (I'm currently using 10.04.3 LTS)
g1ddy said:
He said the xoom camera doesn't work =(
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who said it doesnt work in 4.0.3? everything should work out of the box according to JBQ
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AzN1337c0d3r said:
I think it was something like 4 hours on a 2x quad-core machine with 16 GB of RAM. Can't be bothered to look up the source now.
I'm compiling it now on my dual-Xeon W5687 machine w/72 GB of RAM.
This guide is pretty good: http://www.freeyourandroid.com/guide/compile-ics
Follow the instructions for the Nexus and when you get to "lunch" this page will help:
http://source.android.com/source/building.html
3G/4G users want "full_stingray-userdebug".
Wi-Fi users want "full_wingray-userdebug".
Note that is required that you use Ubuntu x64 (I'm currently using 10.04.3 LTS)
Looks like I overestimated the time it took to compile, it is done after 20 minutes. Now to test it
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which xoom are you compiling for? if your test are successful will you be sharing?
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who said it doesnt work in 4.0.3? everything should work out of the box according to JBQ
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which xoom are you compiling for? if your test are successful will you be sharing?
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JBQ himself
http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/msg/4000560ec550c8fe
Right now I am compiling for Xoom Wi-Fi (as it is the Xoom that I have). I have to go off to see my friend's graduation so I wont be back for 3 hours at least.
If the Wi-Fi one works, I'll compile 3G/4G if someone hasn't beaten me to the punch yet.
aaaand to some how release it for the rest of us...???
g1ddy said:
JBQ himself
http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/msg/4000560ec550c8fe
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eh how often do you hold this big thing to take a picture anyways lol, no HDMI sucks but no biggie never had a use for it but have the HDMI cable lol
AzN1337c0d3r thanks! Looking forward to it!
Yeah, not a huge deal for me, but if we get ICS on the xoom, the speed and stability by itself is worth it!
am I correct in assuming that the camera and HDMI will eventually be fixed? We aren't talking permanent incompatibilities, are we?
ScottRTL said:
Yeah, not a huge deal for me, but if we get ICS on the xoom, the speed and stability by itself is worth it!
am I correct in assuming that the camera and HDMI will eventually be fixed? We aren't talking permanent incompatibilities, are we?
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lol no way will it be permanent we wont see an official update until they go those 2 items fixed, but it doesnt mean we wont have ROMs to use sooner than later!
ScottRTL said:
Yeah, not a huge deal for me, but if we get ICS on the xoom, the speed and stability by itself is worth it!
am I correct in assuming that the camera and HDMI will eventually be fixed? We aren't talking permanent incompatibilities, are we?
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These are most likely things that Motorola will have to handle themselves (especially the Camera).
Surprised by the lack of HDMI support however, I would have expected that part to be handled by the Tegra2-related bins. But not a big deal for me either.
shakuyi said:
lol no way will it be permanent we wont see an official update until they go those 2 items fixed, but it doesnt mean we wont have ROMs to use sooner than later!
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That's what I figured, just thought it was odd that the AOSP is released "officially supporting" Xoom, and the camera and HDMI out don't work... Or, is it just a generic tablet AOSP build and only some of the drivers or something...?
Related
Hi! We just released a bit of code we thought this group might be interested in.
Over at our Android Open-Source Project git servers, the source code
for Android version 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) is now available.
Here's how to get it:Follow the instructions at
http://source.android.com/source/downloading.htmlCheck out the
'ics-release' branch:repo init -u
https://android.googlesource.com/platform/manifest -b android-4.0.1_r1
That's it! However since this is a large push, please be aware that it
will take some time to complete. If you sync before it's done, you'll
get an incomplete copy that you won't be able to use, so please wait
for us to give the all-clear before you sync.
This is actually the source code for version 4.0.1 of Android, which
is the specific version that will ship on the Galaxy Nexus, the first
Android 4.0 device. In the source tree, you will find a device build
target named "full_maguro" that you can use to build a system image
for Galaxy Nexus. Build configurations for other devices will come
later.
Unfortunately we still don't have our Gerrit code review servers back
online. That remains our top priority though, and we hope to have them
back soon.
This release includes the full history of the Android source code
tree, which naturally includes all the source code for the Honeycomb
releases. However, since Honeycomb was a little incomplete, we want
everyone to focus on Ice Cream Sandwich. So, we haven't created any
tags that correspond to the Honeycomb releases (even though the
changes are present in the history.)
JBQ, on behalf of the AOSP team.
--
Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
Software Engineer, Android Open-Source Project, Google.
Questions sent directly to me that have no reason for being private
will likely get ignored or forwarded to a public forum with no further
warning.
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http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/browse_thread/thread/4f85d9242667a85f
Just read this on AndroidPolice. Very excited!!!
Game.....on!
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Developers make some rom's!!!!!! (Please)
this thread should make its way over to the development section. Thanks for the find op
Update: Already there
I'm actually curious about how long it will take for someone to make an A500 ICS ROM based on this. There is bound to be someone to do it, but who gets the #1 spot?
Whoever does it, it won't be soon. Build requirements are kinda steep...
https://groups.google.com/group/and...355d4256bdf4906?hl=en_US&lnk=gst&q=16gb&pli=1
They're not necessarily requirements, but more or less just recommendations. A more average computer could still compile ICS, but it will just take a lot longer. And I'm betting Thor will be the first to cook us a ROM. Hopefully soon
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FloatingFatMan said:
Whoever does it, it won't be soon. Build requirements are kinda steep...
https://groups.google.com/group/and...355d4256bdf4906?hl=en_US&lnk=gst&q=16gb&pli=1
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Those are only recommendations for developer workstations. It is certainly possible to compile it even on a low-grade office PC if you give it a week.
Hence my saying it won't be soon...
FloatingFatMan said:
Hence my saying it won't be soon...
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Your still not understanding my friend. Unless your definition of soon is in 30 minutes. Peter Alfonso that develops for the OG Droid and a few other devices compiled his in about 1 hour and 45 minutes. That was a laptop core i7 and 8gb of ram.
Thats not whats going to be time consuming. The hard part will be finding/getting the hardware inside our devices to work. I asked THOR on his forum about ICS on the iconia, his response:
done know for now... depends how many proprietary stuff the a500 uses....
I'm worried the camera, sensors and battery as these seam to be tampered with...
for the moment I'm busy with other stuff will see when I get some time to sneak a peak at the code...
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Time will tell.
I'm sure FFM understands that. As you say, the hard part is getting the hardware to work, but with a slower machine, how many test builds can you do in a day? With a big fast machine that can build in a few hours vs a laptop that might take a few days can make a huge difference of when you get to your final release.
But hey.. i don't know anything, so why don't I just shut up...
It takes about 3.5 hours for me to build a new version of ICS. I'm on a 3 year old laptop which is why it takes so long. It would be great to have a much newer machine to build with as it would help to make things go faster.
So I guess that Google engineer was taling out of his butt then.
Hey guys,
Just posting to raise awareness of Cornerstone and finding out if it's possible at some point to work on it for this device?. I used it on ICS on my Acer A500 and it ran great! The Nexus 7 would run brilliantly imo.
For those who don't know what it is, it is a great TRUE multitasking app for Android OS...you can see a demo of it Here
It seems Cornerstone was the next big thing up until February when Cyanogenmod announced they would be integrating it into cm9 (which appears to have never happened?) now it seems to have died off...
I know the Nexus 7 & Jellybean are both new and most devs will be focused on porting all their previous work over and working out any compatibility\tweaking for at least the next few weeks, but if somebody is interested in building a ROM with cornerstone baked into it that would be pretty amazing!
For more info, hit up http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone/index.php where you can find the open source code, github and further details about Cornerstone.
Hoping it interests somebody enough to give it a solid shot!
Cheers
Hm, I hadn't heard of this before. Sounds neat!
Saint Wacko said:
Hm, I hadn't heard of this before. Sounds neat!
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I used the Team EOS Cornerstone ICS nightly builds on the Xoom. Loved it but found it conflicted too much with my 3rd party launcher and crashed some apps, but it was great on a 10" screen. Can't quite see the utility on a 7" screen...I just used floating apps like Overscreen and Stick it for multi tasking.
However, it would be fun to see all the development that can happen on this device...if you build it, I will probably try it.
Havent seen this before. I am a software developer, once my Nexus comes in, i will check whats not working with it. Is the source code anywhere?
okantomi said:
I used the Team EOS Cornerstone ICS nightly builds on the Xoom. Loved it but found it conflicted too much with my 3rd party launcher and crashed some apps, but it was great on a 10" screen. Can't quite see the utility on a 7" screen...I just used floating apps like Overscreen and Stick it for multi tasking.
However, it would be fun to see all the development that can happen on this device...if you build it, I will probably try it.
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Have not heard of Overscreen or Stick it, will have a look at them thanks! Have not got my N7 yet so can't comment on size, was just a thought since I thought Cornerstone had so much promise.
Tcsnyder said:
Havent seen this before. I am a software developer, once my Nexus comes in, i will check whats not working with it. Is the source code anywhere?
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I found the source on their site https://github.com/Onskreen/cornerstone
Last commit was in February which happens to coincide with the last news articles about it....possibly abandoned?
Can't hurt to look into it at least, thanks for showing interest!
forum dot xda-developers dot com/showpost.php?p=30413020&postcount=318
Looks like it might be here "soonish" :victory: I hope he can figure it out
Sorry I can't post links...
I would love to see a ROM with this!
Looks like they haven't officially ported it to JB yet...
I am trying to start developing for android, and if I do ever release a ROM, one of my goals is to have cornerstone in it.
Hi:
I'd really like to see this work on the Nexus 7.
Tom
Hope this will work as soon as possible.. Or are there other methods for controlling a media player with using navigation of google maps? i dont want to switch apps, OSD of media keys or cornerstone would be perfect
Geliras said:
Hope this will work as soon as possible.. Or are there other methods for controlling a media player with using navigation of google maps? i dont want to switch apps, OSD of media keys or cornerstone would be perfect
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When using Google music it gives you music control in the drop down notification menu
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Please someone tell me that this is not dead yet.....
apparently the reason CM dropped cornerstone is because google doesn't like multiwindow and threatened them
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/samsung-adds-multi-window-despite-threat-from-google-2012109/
"In a conversation with Steve Kondik on Google+, Hackborn commented that if the team started making CM behave in a fundamentally different way than stock Android, they were going to need to start doing things to prevent CM from impacting the Android app ecosystem."
nvertigo said:
apparently the reason CM dropped cornerstone is because google doesn't like multiwindow and threatened them
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/samsung-adds-multi-window-despite-threat-from-google-2012109/
"In a conversation with Steve Kondik on Google+, Hackborn commented that if the team started making CM behave in a fundamentally different way than stock Android, they were going to need to start doing things to prevent CM from impacting the Android app ecosystem."
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I actually saw all that drama... does not explain why they were good with samsung doing the same thing that cornerstone does. CM should reconsider.
Has anyone looked at the feasibility of porting this to JB or is it currently dead in the water?
berickson1 said:
Has anyone looked at the feasibility of porting this to JB or is it currently dead in the water?
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What he said
This is serious!
mulletcutter said:
What he said
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I am willing to offer up my nexus 7 with around the clock availability to testing.
Lets get this project rolling!
I'm guessing CM is the place to start.
Hi there,
just to keep this alive, is there any serious progress with Cornerstone for the Nexus 7 (especially the 3G version) yet? Would love to have Multi Window on my device!
Onskreen announced today Cornerstone 1.0 supporting Jelly Bean
Sources are available here:
https://github.com/Onskreen/cornerstone
So, now the question is "any developer who's willing to add Cornerstone to a custom Nexus 7 rom ?"
Canonical just announced their mobile OS called Ubuntu Mobile
Now, you're probably wondering why I put this in the GNex general.
Let me tell you.
The dev phone at this phase for UM is the one and only, Galaxy Nexus.
As seen here: http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/02/ubuntu-for-smartphones/
And in pretty much every picture of it on http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
I made this thread for discussion, speculation and the likes
So, how long do you think until the first build is avalable for us?
UPDATE: Everything we know so far (basic information and release times) are here:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/18y9ij/when_this_post_is_3_hours_old_canonical_will/
Official instructions for installation (You need to have a Ubuntu/compatable Linux distribution installed):
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
Easiest way to install the preview image:
(Method discovered by eng.stk)
eng.stk said:
For people wondering about install (tried with TWRP):
1. Nandroid backup
2. Factory Reset
3. Grab quantal-preinstalled-armel+maguro.zip (MD5: e4c9c5601019ec7ce24f43f317361982) and quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip (MD5: edd3c43909a6e73ac254b2673d40cc53) from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
4. Flash quantal-preinstalled-armel+maguro.zip
5. Flash quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip (this one will take a while, grab some coffee :laugh
6. Reboot (screen will go black but after a few seconds Ubuntu is up)
7. Profit :highfive:
This install didn't wiped my sdcard. I just restored my TWRP backup after a short Ubuntu testdrive.
If you are paranoid, just copy your stuf from SDCARD to your PC before flashing.
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How to go back to Android?
It's easy.
You can either restore the Nandroid backup you made earlier (assuming you followed the instructions all the way) or just flash a ROM. It's as easy as that.
Can't friggin wait!
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I don't care as long as it's soon! Both Ubuntu for android and Ubuntu phone OS look awesome. They teased this over a year ago though... So I'm not crossing any fingers.
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Lesicnik1 said:
Canonical just announced their mobile OS called Ubuntu Mobile
Now, you're probably wondering why I put this in the GNex general.
Let me tell you.
The dev phone at this phase for UM is the one and only, Galaxy Nexus.
As seen here: http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/02/ubuntu-for-smartphones/
And in pretty much every picture of it on http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
I made this thread for discussion, speculation and the likes
So, how long do you think until the first build is avalable for us?
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This actually looks better than android to me! CANT WAIT
As already teased and promised, today Canonical is taking the wraps off the mobile version of Ubuntu, which is built around the existing Android kernel and drivers, but doesn't use a Java Virtual Machine and promises to use "the full power of the phone." Supporting both ARM and x86 processors, the Ubuntu phone OS will be compatible enough to let Android phone makers run it on their devices with minimal adaptation.
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source:http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/2/3827922/ubuntu-phone-os-announcement
andes85 said:
I don't care as long as it's soon! Both Ubuntu for android and Ubuntu phone OS look awesome. They teased this over a year ago though... So I'm not crossing any fingers.
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Actually, what they teased (if I remember correctly) is an Android phone, which when docked, puts Ubuntu on an external display.
This is similar, but instead of Android, you have Ubuntu Mobile
Where can I find a flashable image? I must flash it!!!
Can't wait..
Finally an OS without Java virtual machine! Is it true...??
Ubuntu.com/devices they have both Ubuntu os and Ubuntu for android
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Fil-A said:
Where can I find a flashable image? I must flash it!!!
Can't wait..
Finally an OS without Java virtual machine! Is it true...
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And it's almost built for our Nexus. No keys, only gestures
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Just e-mailed them and asked when we'll be able to get it on our device.
Fingers crossed they reply
http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/2/3828266/ubuntu-phone-os-hands-on
The verge already have a hands on - nearing the end they mention that the Dev's said an image for the Galaxy nexus will be available in the next couple of weeks!!
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/02/ubuntu-for-smartphones/#continued
engadget hands on
Fil-A said:
Where can I find a flashable image? I must flash it!!!
Can't wait..
Finally an OS without Java virtual machine! Is it true...??
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Yes it does not use java virtual machine
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...on-of-its-os-just-for-your-pocket-superphone/
The "next couple of weeks" according to their press release. This is really sick- instead of running ubuntu on top of android it takes android out of the equation altogether. Plus it runs with current existing Android kernels and drivers. I'm super stoked- Can't wait to get my hands on it either!
Lesicnik1 said:
Canonical just announced their mobile OS called Ubuntu Mobile
Now, you're probably wondering why I put this in the GNex general.
Let me tell you.
The dev phone at this phase for UM is the one and only, Galaxy Nexus.
As seen here: http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/02/ubuntu-for-smartphones/
And in pretty much every picture of it on http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
I made this thread for discussion, speculation and the likes
So, how long do you think until the first build is avalable for us?
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Installing Ubuntu on your phone is very easy, you can do this from cwm...
I will keep you guys updated once we release the img files!
Cimi86 said:
Installing Ubuntu on your phone is very easy, you can do this from cwm...
I will keep you guys updated once we release the img files!
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Do you work for canonical?
Glad to see the market moving towards unifying our devices. My only hesitancy is that I use Google Voice for SMS and calls, though no VOIP. I'd need support for that and I'd have to see if Ubuntu One can rival Google Music (or if Google Music will find its way over). Since Voice and Music have both found their way over to iOS in various forms, I'm hopeful and excited. Ubuntu already has good integration with most Google services and it's all Linux so I'm optimistic for support.
That looks so beautiful! I'm not very knowledgeable with this project so I have a question, will it be able to possibly run android applications native or is going to be huge different overhaul of an OS.
edit: NVM, it would appear as if not after reading through their site a bit... But do feel free to tell me.
Febby said:
That looks so beautiful! I'm not very knowledgeable with this project so I have a question, will it be able to possibly run android applications native or is going to be huge different overhaul of an OS.
edit: NVM, it would appear as if not after reading through their site a bit... But do feel free to tell me.
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Yea unfortunately you will not be able to run android apps, it will have it's own specific market place. They have already put up some tips on developing for mobile so Im sure some people have already gotten a head start on it :fingers-crossed: using html 5 or native apps..
Really can not wait for this, I keep checking the website and thread for updates..would be awesome to see a release this week as a surprise. :good:
I would love to try this when it is available.. totally awesome
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So I've Been a Big fan of Ubuntu for a while and I was thrilled to see that they will be releasing a phone OS sometime hopefully soon. Since I have the laptop dock I have always wanted to try to put full ubuntu on it. However that never fully worked on and had to be done on a blur based rom. I love the new JB rom I have on my phone as It performs well. But at the end of the video 21:00 Mark Shuttleworth, the Founder of Ubuntu stated that Ubuntu Phone runs on ARM based chips and Android Kenerals and Drivers.
I'm just wondering Who else would love to see this run and be compatible on the atrix AND the dock. If we still have a decent amount of developers I'm sure this is more than possible.
Heres the Link for the video:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
Just putting the idea out there, but if there are any developers capable of this I'd be more than happy to support.
phone spesification is enough for run and if canonical is behind this i think its possible
I was about to post this as a new thread but when I saw this thread I decided to post it in here.
Happy New Year!
According to the video below Ubuntu for Phones will be compatible with any Android designed-hardware. If I understood it correctly, Atrix last chance is with Ubuntu for Phones for sure.
http://www.androidcentral.com/canonical-announces-its-ubuntu-smartphone-os
I have already said that once before that one reason the OEMs lock the bootloader of their phones is to prevent other platforms to be installed to shorten the life of the devices.
Millions of capable Android devices have already been abandoned due to lack of software support which I blame Google directly to allow the implementation of Wild Wild West on Android platform. The only loser in Android world is and will always be the consumers. Ubuntu for Phones will be the left jab that Google didn't see coming. I personally looking forward to see what Ubuntu for Phones can bring this year.
Update: it seems Ubuntu for Phones will not be available until 2014
Seems BBC covered the story
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20891868
and in the article says that it will be released for the samsung galaxy nexus. porting from that to the Atrix may be hard, but it should be like CyanogenMod a little. So thats a little boost to say the least.
I also emailed canonical and showed interest in helping with the project especially with the lapdock capabilities, so ill let you guys know what I get back from them, and If its any useful Ill be sure to forward it to every developer possible.
Yes and simply
Yes it's possible for our Atrix, jus read that :
"Easier hardware enablement
We have teams based in Taipei, Shanghai, London, Beijing and Boston to engage with your engineering and factory operations – and their sole focus is to deliver a crisp Ubuntu experience on your device.
Ubuntu has already been adapted to run on chipsets using the ARM and Intel x86 architectures relevant for mobile devices, with the core system based around a typical Android Board Support Package (BSP). So chipset vendors and hardware manufacturers do not need to invest in or maintain new hardware support packages for Ubuntu on smartphones. In short, if you already make handsets that run Android, the work needed to adopt Ubuntu will be trivial."
So alright we don't MAKE handsets that runs android but we have one, we also have the kernel drivers no ? so with that it's like port a cyanogenmod ROM I think. My quote come from canonical web-site (sorry new member so I can"t post outside links ><) so it's a truth information
leclercqsteeven said:
So alright we don't MAKE handsets that runs android but we have one, we also have the kernel drivers no ? so with that it's like port a cyanogenmod ROM I think. My quote come from canonical web-site (sorry new member so I can"t post outside links ><) so it's a truth information
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Yep, we have Ubuntu drivers but we're not sure we will be able to use them. But indeed the project of having Ubuntu running as main OS on the Atrix is realistic as we have all the material (HW and SW) required for this, if our devs know how to use them, but I think a whole team would be required for a project this big. It's not just a port of Cyanogen, it's not about taking a kernel and some drivers and snap them with a more recent UI and newer apps. We only got a kernel and an X server, it's far enough but the thing is that this X server was published to run on dev platforms. But also know it can be used on an Atrix, but how to integrate it with a whole new platform ? It will require time mostly. I think. And devs. But we don't have many devs so we only have hope. But maybe the devs on XDA will look more at the Atrix and Webtop.
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Update: it seems Ubuntu for Phones will not be available until 2014
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Actually it's supposed to be available late 2013 - according to lifehacker....
http://lifehacker.com/5972559/the-ubuntu-mobile-os-introduced-today-coming-to-phones-in-2014
The Ubuntu Phones that ship with the OS will most likely be available in 2013 in the UK, and will clear american shores in Hopefully late 2013, but most likely will arrive around early 2014.
The OS itself will most likely clear for deployment sometime soon for the samsung galaxy nexus, as for a universal build I'm not sure If/when that will be available, so most likely we will have to see if one can be constructed for the atrix.
As far as the lack of developers, I fell that any and all developers that are still in possession of an operational atrix will want to test this, especially on a phone that isnt their daily driver and has capabilities of bringing back a strong webtop front.
absolutely possible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzc0uMXGFBY
i like the ubuntu webtop, its run smooth and fast :good:
I think the atrix should be able to run it. just not mine unless the new bootloader gets figured out
Well I really think that Ubuntu can run on the Atrix, because they share the same idea, which is killed by Google: The webtop.
We just plug the phone into a dock, connect it to a monitor and that's it. Besides, the original webtop is just a big browser without many supported applications.
Several webtop-mods have shown that it is possible to run a full Debian or Ubuntu Linux on the phone.
And having one OS for mutliple devices is the stratagy that Microsoft now tries with Windows 8 on Tablets. But other than Windows, Ubuntu really got the chance to do it right.
Possible to run, but...
Well, I'm sure, it won't be a real problem to run the Ubuntu phone OS on Atrix 4g, IMHO, I'm really suprised, they used Atrix 2 and his adventages in testing. It's but I'm sure, HW would not work on 100%. Everyone knows, what is a problem with HWA drivers fot ICS+ even on android. Fingerprint drivers will be problem too... the best roms are (at least in my opinion) GB ones. This is the "tax" we pay for extraordinary HW in Atrix 4G.
Another problem in optimalization is the date of release (futher in future...who knows, how many devs will stay..)
This OS already has its own section on xda and it hasn't even been released yet lol anyways u can share your thoughts on Ubuntu for phone here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2082789
Phone Slow? go HERE
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Thank you very much for your interest towards Ubuntu on smartphones. We have received an incredible response and have been overwhelmed with the general positive feedback! Responses both from the general public and the industry have been far greater that we expected.
In order to make Ubuntu a truly fantastic smartphone experience we will be initially working with manufacturers who will build Ubuntu into their hardware. We anticipate market availability of Ubuntu on smartphones towards the end of 2013.
To reach this goal, and offer a great experience for future consumers, our first priority will be to respond to industry inquiries from manufacturers/OEMs, silicon partners, developers and mobile operators. If you are a potential industry partner, we’d like to learn more about you. Please register your interest through our web form: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/contact-us
If you are a mobile apps developer, and want to learn how you can help bring Ubuntu to the phone, you can also find more information on:
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We are all excited about Ubuntu for phones, but it will take some time to get into the marketplace. If you leave us your email and country details, we will let you know when there is further news:
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Once again, thank you for your interest in Ubuntu!
Yours sincerely,
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Pretty much everything you could have read up on :/
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Hello people.
Searching the past week about this topic, I found the "How to upload" Ubuntu for phones on Tegra Devices like our Atrix.
Here you could find some info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TEGRA/AC100
This will help un too: http://ac100.grandou.net/nvflash#debian_ubuntu_package
https://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra
And here, the Ubuntu for phones. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/quantal/release/
They recommend the Lubuntu 12:10 because it supposedly run from the box. I did not try this yet until I have all the tools(software & knowledge) ready...
It could be nice to have to opportunity to flash it like any ROM, but, sometimes I like the "hard" way in order to learn and develop myself.
Well guys, BON APPETITE !!!!!
While it's possible from a technical standpoint, I just don't see the developer interest which is a shame really, since the device's only weakness is the lack of updates.
Dav0 said:
Hello people.
Searching the past week about this topic, I found the "How to upload" Ubuntu for phones on Tegra Devices like our Atrix.
Here you could find some info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TEGRA/AC100
This will help un too: http://ac100.grandou.net/nvflash#debian_ubuntu_package
https://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra
And here, the Ubuntu for phones. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/quantal/release/
They recommend the Lubuntu 12:10 because it supposedly run from the box. I did not try this yet until I have all the tools(software & knowledge) ready...
It could be nice to have to opportunity to flash it like any ROM, but, sometimes I like the "hard" way in order to learn and develop myself.
Well guys, BON APPETITE !!!!!
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This option to install ubuntu is impossible. U would risk to delete/brick partitions or nands. We need a IMG file with the filestructure and flash it with the fastboot/CWM. I can mount ubuntu 11.04 but the problem is no UI loading. Only usable is the terminal.
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Hai_Duong said:
This option to install ubuntu is impossible. U would risk to delete/brick partitions or nands. We need a IMG file with the filestructure and flash it with the fastboot/CWM. I can mount ubuntu 11.04 but the problem is no UI loading. Only usable is the terminal.
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No is not impossible. You partition an SD card load it up with kernel and system and use a dual boot solution to boot into the kernel on SD card. Of course some minor changes needed on the kernel. But not impossible.
also porting cyanogenmod is not as simple as grabbing a few drivers and adding a few kernel bits. It is a monumental task of trial and error with hundreds of lines of code to patch and sometimes full libraries have to be re written. Shoot the radio layer on the atrix was a quick hack job on cm for atrix.
Porting Ubuntu is tho should be quite easy. And maybe could even one day live in that juicy 750mb web top partition.
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You'd probably have to have /home on the internal sdcard to use /osh for installing Ubuntu.
Funny that this is the third thread in the last few days talking about using stand-alone Ubuntu on the device.
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samcripp said:
No is not impossible. You partition an SD card load it up with kernel and system and use a dual boot solution to boot into the kernel on SD card. Of course some minor changes needed on the kernel. But not impossible.
also porting cyanogenmod is not as simple as grabbing a few drivers and adding a few kernel bits. It is a monumental task of trial and error with hundreds of lines of code to patch and sometimes full libraries have to be re written. Shoot the radio layer on the atrix was a quick hack job on cm for atrix.
Porting Ubuntu is tho should be quite easy. And maybe could even one day live in that juicy 750mb web top partition.
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I mean like webtop in atrix just docking u phone and start Ubuntu version 12.04 and not 9.04 jaunty . And a small question: why does nobody can make it work? there are big changes to make it work I think. Dual boot is without a proof not working for me
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Jolla released it's Sailfish OS SDK some time ago and I'm expecting it to be ported on my Phone. Is anyone here to do this ?
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Jolla released it's Sailfish OS SDK some time ago and I'm expecting it to be ported on my Phone. Is anyone here to do this ?
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I'm not really good at porting, but it should be easy. The 3 problems are
kernel
HW accel with GPU
Touchscreen
The first one is really easy since if you cannot run a Mer stock / customized UI, you can still take Android one.
For the second, it is the trickiest, but you can still use mesa-llvmpipe (no HW accel, but only software)
For the thirst point, it is up to the screen manufacturer. Some provides linux drivers, some do not. But for Android, it might be highly probable that a driver is provided.
sfiet_konstantin said:
I'm not really good at porting, but it should be easy. The 3 problems are
kernel
HW accel with GPU
Touchscreen
The first one is really easy since if you cannot run a Mer stock / customized UI, you can still take Android one.
For the second, it is the trickiest, but you can still use mesa-llvmpipe (no HW accel, but only software)
For the thirst point, it is up to the screen manufacturer. Some provides linux drivers, some do not. But for Android, it might be highly probable that a driver is provided.
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Nexus 4 is a developer device and I think all required drivers are released
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Nexus 4 is a developer device and I think all required drivers are released
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Released ... for Android.
Because SW architecture are not the same
You need an X11 driver etc.
sad.... :\
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sad.... :\
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We will check if it works. Maybe the support for the HW in the Nexus 4 is good ...
But for the Nexus 7, it is nearly sure that it works. Something similar (Ubuntu) were ported on it ...
Has Google still not been able to release all the source code for the Nexus 4?
Disgusting if so.
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We will check if it works. Maybe the support for the HW in the Nexus 4 is good ...
But for the Nexus 7, it is nearly sure that it works. Something similar (Ubuntu) were ported on it ...
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You mean Ubuntu for Tablets? If so then the Nexus 4 should also possibly be able to get a Sailfish port. They release Ubuntu for Phones on the Nexus 4 the same day the UfT port was released for the N7.
Bump.
It's been 9 months since the last post on a Nexus 4 port of SailfishOS. Has someone brought this baby to term? Anyone know if there's an ongoing effort?
There is no sources or devices released. Theres only the x86 based sdk. So what do you can be ported? The x86 sdk to arm cpu? Never. And the Sailfish ui is proprietary so sources wont be released. If you want Mer with the default ui, sources can be downloaded from the Mer-projects website
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaVAMGv3tI4
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaVAMGv3tI4
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That's great news! If I understand correctly he flashed CM and then patches it with libhybris+sailfish. That makes me hope for easy patching to other devices too...
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I want those files right now!
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Looks great
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaVAMGv3tI4
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Thanks for showing this. It would be nice to see another minute or two to demonstrate how sailfish performs on Nexus. Perhaps this is still at early stages. Are you able to provide instructions and location of files? Thanks again!
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Thanks for showing this. It would be nice to see another minute or two to demonstrate how sailfish performs on Nexus. Perhaps this is still at early stages. Are you able to provide instructions and location of files? Thanks again!
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No files or anything else have been made available yet. It might be too early yet, but now any hope we might have had has gained some solid foundations
No news about the port to Nexus 4 ? I can't wait to try it.
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No files or anything else have been made available yet. It might be too early yet, but now any hope we might have had has gained some solid foundations
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I wish they would at least show a demo of how they did it. That way we could try making some progress with other devices awhile