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Bewildered, what's the latest stick.?

Ok been lurking on the thread for a while, and it appears the mk808,is the mostppreferred however what is the latest rootable android stick please.?

Latest not aways greatest
The MK808B has all the features of the MK808 with a few improvements, better wifi and bluetooth. The MK808 gets better custom ROM support and firmware updates come faster for the MK808. Latest doesn't mean its necessarily better, firmware for the MK808/B (4.2.2) is about 30% slower than Finless ROM for the MK808/B. For a price point under $50 the MK808B is hard to beat. I recommend buying a $50 to $60 Android TV stick every 3 to 6 months. Uhost U1A, and MK802 are the best single core tv sticks but are now obsolete. In 6 months or less quad core tv sticks will be about $50 and all dual cores will be obsolete, and by then you'll have a better understanding of how a tv stick works best for you.
Gaming (think webcam enabled first person shooter- live)
XBMC (netflix, hulu+, redbox, crackle, hbo2go, youtube)
Smarter TV (use voice command to control android apps)
Replacing PC (just surfing web, why not on big screen hdtv)
Video phone (skype, sipdroid, groove ip)
Online college courses (video chat classroom)
All starting around $50!
tabletuser.blogspot

cesar33 said:
The MK808B has all the features of the MK808 with a few improvements, better wifi and bluetooth. The MK808 gets better custom ROM support and firmware updates come faster for the MK808. Latest doesn't mean its necessarily better, firmware for the MK808/B (4.2.2) is about 30% slower than Finless ROM for the MK808/B. For a price point under $50 the MK808B is hard to beat. I recommend buying a $50 to $60 Android TV stick every 3 to 6 months. Uhost U1A, and MK802 are the best single core tv sticks but are now obsolete. In 6 months or less quad core tv sticks will be about $50 and all dual cores will be obsolete, and by then you'll have a better understanding of how a tv stick works best for you.
Gaming (think webcam enabled first person shooter- live)
XBMC (netflix, hulu+, redbox, crackle, hbo2go, youtube)
Smarter TV (use voice command to control android apps)
Replacing PC (just surfing web, why not on big screen hdtv)
Video phone (skype, sipdroid, groove ip)
Online college courses (video chat classroom)
All starting around $50!
tabletuser.blogspot
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Cheers for a well explained post, am off to buy the mk808b.

marvi0 said:
Ok been lurking on the thread for a while, and it appears the mk808,is the most preferred however what is the latest rootable android stick please.?
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mk808 is perhaps the hottest on the market, but for the latest you should check out the new quad cores that recently started coming out.

DanCar2 said:
mk808 is perhaps the hottest on the market, but for the latest you should check out the new quad cores that recently started coming out.
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argh, i'm confused. thought the 802 IIIs is the latest and hottest... anyone got an comparison table??

woina said:
argh, i'm confused. thought the 802 IIIs is the latest and hottest... anyone got an comparison table??
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I went with the 802IIIS because it is/was the latest....lol
Only getting my feet wet, looks more like what makes a device "hot" is the aftermarket support?
Im not sure I can figure out to root and play with all the new roms, so far the 802 has done what I needed it to.
Im sure the quad core will be hot, but which one will get all the aftermarket roms? your guess is as good as mine..
Hope that helps some?

thanks for your answer, but i'm not sure if its better to buy the 808b or the 802 IIIs... all i want is a stable android stick with an working android market.
...support would be great, but i never used product service til today.

woina said:
thanks for your answer, but i'm not sure if its better to buy the 808b or the 802 IIIs... all i want is a stable android stick with an working android market.
...support would be great, but i never used product service til today.
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Well The IIIS seams very stable, no freezing, no lockups...I use it for streaming video from a sling box and its just fine....Market no problems either...
I just saw today another aftermarket rom was made for the IIIS, that's a good sign....
I don't have the confidence to root so the stock is working great in my world.
Good luck on your choice!!!

Just ordered the 809. Cant wait to get it and play

The Pipo M9 & Cube U30GT2 10" RockChip RK 3188 Tablets are shipping now, I fully expect RK 3188 TV sticks and boxes will follow soon afterwards, and it will be the RockChip RK 3188 devices that will be favorites for the custom ROM makers, why, because its the fastest quad system with the most potential for further development to come out of China to date, the one that aficionados have been waiting for.

nikev215 said:
The Pipo M9 & Cube U30GT2 10" RockChip RK 3188 Tablets are shipping now, I fully expect RK 3188 TV sticks and boxes will follow soon afterwards, and it will be the RockChip RK 3188 devices that will be favorites for the custom ROM makers, why, because its the fastest quad system with the most potential for further development to come out of China to date, the one that aficionados have been waiting for.
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Have you got a link for these please.?

Well in the end I went for mk809b. It's been shipped should be with me soon. Will give my thoughts when I have used

marvi0 said:
Have you got a link for these please.?
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Here's one
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Tron...188-2G-DDR3-Wifi-Bluetooth-TV-BOX-314524.html

marvi0 said:
Have you got a link for these please.?
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/bit.ly/WPqmB8

New kindle fire HDX

So Amazon announced the new Kindle HDX.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/25/amazon-debuts-kindle-fire-hdx-7-and-8-9-inch-tablets-we-go-han/
Also available for pre-order already.
http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Fire-HDX-Display-Wi-Fi/dp/B00BHJRYYS
Comes with a new JB based OS. Some articles suggesting its likely we'll get an update to the new OS. Especially likely given that they are retooling the 2012 HD and continuing to sell it.
They looks like beasts of a machine though. s800 quad, ardrino 330 gpu. Wouldn't mind the upgrade....

I hope we find out more details as to how exploitable it will be considering I don't like their stock os, and we would have to assume someone like hashcode would be willing to make a ROM for it if it was even exploitable, I don't know anything about snapdragon processors so I don't know if they have any similar security implementations like the m-shield. On another note, it has no minihdmi plug, I find that annoying because as the article says you need something like a smart TV or a ps3/ps4 to use the method it uses to play things on your TV, which not all people have... Sorry if this sounds pessimistic, I would totally buy it though if it gets exploited to a point we can flash custom roms.
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stunts513 said:
I hope we find out more details as to how exploitable it will be considering I don't like their stock os, and we would have to assume someone like hashcode would be willing to make a ROM for it if it was even exploitable, I don't know anything about snapdragon processors so I don't know if they have any similar security implementations like the m-shield. On another note, it has no minihdmi plug, I find that annoying because as the article says you need something like a smart TV or a ps3/ps4 to use the method it uses to play things on your TV, which not all people have... Sorry if this sounds pessimistic, I would totally buy it though if it gets exploited to a point we can flash custom roms.
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is android 4.2.2. fire os 3.0 is based in android 4.2.2 and the old kindle is receiving the update

Eh... The fact that they only went from 1 to 2GB of RAM from HD8.9 to HDX8.9 is kind of silly.
This is 2013 and RAM is easy to come by and more useful than ever. 2GB of ram doesn't even fit the minimum requirements of some applications these days. Not to mention that when you're using a quad core processor more than 2GB of ram will come in very handy....
Maybe if they cut the price in half it'd be worth buying... They should have thought this through a little more....

I agree ram is cheap but let's not throw ram and speed at what a programmer can do with less. my wife's infuse runs jelly bean on a single core and 512 megs and it runs most apps just fine or at least as well as my moto m
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Personally I'm glad it at least doubled the ram, my kindle running cm 10.1 at idle with nothing running is usually using about 62% of my ram, and when i launch a web browser it really lags and my ram usage is usually anywhere around 85-90%. I find it funny now days 2gb of ram isn't considered much, back when I was younger it was considered a lot to have half a GB, heck my current PC only has 2gb of ram.
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Great specs and price for the Wi-Fi 16/32GB ones. I might get HDX over the Nexus 7 2013. No built-in GPS is the biggest turn-off for me, though.

persano said:
... and the old kindle is receiving the update
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Thats great news, but where did you see that?

bryanchapman9999 said:
Thats great news, but where did you see that?
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I think that was a question.
stunts513 said:
I find it funny now days 2gb of ram isn't considered much, back when I was younger it was considered a lot to have half a GB, heck my current PC only has 2gb of ram.
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I remember one day paying $400 for 4 MB of ram. I don't even want to think what I was paying per Gb when I went from 256k to 640k on my 8088.

bryanchapman9999 said:
Thats great news, but where did you see that?
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i talked to amazon support, they said me that they are updating the kindle fire hd to the fire os. future kinology in android 4.2.2 ?

Fire OS 3.0 is not coming to 2012 devices(look at usuable space on devices)
amazon support isnt an exactly reliable source especially when amazon pushes mystery updates and support cant tell you what it is
2013 7" kfhd does not have a camera, mic, hdmi, and wifi is single antenna(not MIMO)
as impressive the hdx's specs are nice but the bootloaders gonna be locked(unlocking will most likely break some feature or most likely brick it)
if you noticed all the 2013 16 gigs only have 10.9 gigs of usuable space. they upped the bloat from 2012 models have 12.6 gigs
amazon included a charger but jacked the price up for the device
second screen is crap even if you had a streaming device(IE roku) you would rather just use the devices remote or the Google play app of said device which you know wont be in amazon's app system and doesn't make up for lack of video output.
just beware Qualcomm and Amazon just doesn't sound good for users of this forum

Keep in mind that the kindle fire 1 and two are two totally different OS's but the same look
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persano said:
i talked to amazon support, they said me that they are updating the kindle fire hd to the fire os. future kinology in android 4.2.2 ?
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Sweeet!
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Maromi said:
Fire OS 3.0 is not coming to 2012 devices(look at usuable space on devices)
amazon support isnt an exactly reliable source especially when amazon pushes mystery updates and support cant tell you what it is
2013 7" kfhd does not have a camera, mic, hdmi, and wifi is single antenna(not MIMO)
as impressive the hdx's specs are nice but the bootloaders gonna be locked(unlocking will most likely break some feature or most likely brick it)
if you noticed all the 2013 16 gigs only have 10.9 gigs of usuable space. they upped the bloat from 2012 models have 12.6 gigs
amazon included a charger but jacked the price up for the device
second screen is crap even if you had a streaming device(IE roku) you would rather just use the devices remote or the Google play app of said device which you know wont be in amazon's app system and doesn't make up for lack of video output.
just beware Qualcomm and Amazon just doesn't sound good for users of this forum
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Oh. Bummer

Please know that the new devices (including the 2013 HD 7"!) will all need new exploits before they can be effectively unlocked for advanced development such as kernels and AOSP.
Just setting the expectation in advance.
While the specs are certainly very good, they will come at a price (exploit needed before custom ROM development).
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Hi guys, I've never used any kindle device before but the price and specs of Kindle Fire HDX got me all excited and I wanna buy it but in one condition and that is if it has Google Play. I hate Amazon Appstore it doesn't have 90% of the apps that Google Play has. What's the point of buying this powerful device if I can't play latest & greatest games and use different apps? I heard that kindle fire hd is rootable and can be converted to android? So I just wanna know if it's possible to could get access to all google play apps and games and play them on this device after it get released?
Thank You

Highly likely this device one day will be able to, but at this point there is no promises. Probably for play store we will just need root which most devices get within a few months. As for exploits for unlocked boot loaders for custom Roms it probably will happen someday but keep in mind we may have been still waiting on the kfhd if it wasn't for hashcode.
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mrkhigh said:
Highly likely this device one day will be able to, but at this point there is no promises. Probably for play store we will just need root which most devices get within a few months. As for exploits for unlocked boot loaders for custom Roms it probably will happen someday but keep in mind we may have been still waiting on the kfhd if it wasn't for hashcode.
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ah great..then I guess I'll just wait till it gets rooted and then I'll buy it immediately.

mrkhigh said:
Highly likely this device one day will be able to, but at this point there is no promises. Probably for play store we will just need root which most devices get within a few months. As for exploits for unlocked boot loaders for custom Roms it probably will happen someday but keep in mind we may have been still waiting on the kfhd if it wasn't for hashcode.
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Even with root and play store installed, lots of apps still won't be listed compatible in play store even when they are. Amazon does something blocking apps in the play store for the fire. I believe there is an app that can fix it. Idk if it still works between Google updating its system and the app hasn't been updated in awhile

Maromi said:
Even with root and play store installed, lots of apps still won't be listed compatible in play store even when they are. Amazon does something blocking apps in the play store for the fire. I believe there is an app that can fix it. Idk if it still works between Google updating its system and the app hasn't been updated in awhile
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there is a hacked version of the google play and all the apps show compatible
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Link?
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5th Generation Amazon Fires start shipping in a few days.

Fire (7"), Fire HD 8, and Fire HD 10
Amazon Fire (7")
Specs: microSD slot...
Price: $49.99
For only $50 it looks pretty good.

Already pre-ordered, that is some cheap hardware.

Interesting price, very curious about the bootloader status.
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Yes, already pre-ordered but $50 has sponsored screen-saver

paarkhi said:
Yes, already pre-ordered but $50 has sponsored screen-saver
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I believe that can be disabled, if a root method is found.

sd_shadow said:
Fire (7"), Fire HD 8, and Fire HD 10
Amazon Fire (7")
Specs: microSD slot...
Price: $49.99
For only $50 it looks pretty good.
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I placed my order today. I was looking for a cheap tablet to play my second Clash of Clans account on. I haven't looked into rooting and putting custom RoMs on Kindle Fires, or even if it's possible.

New Kindle
I'd really like to see the following:
1 - Root.
2 - Some way of either completely unlocking the new Fire OS or better yet, replacing it with a clean Lollipop or Marshmallow load
Yes, there are certainly cheap $50 Android devices out there, but I'd rather (given the chance) use a more supported hardware platform that more people will buy (Amazon Kindle vs. "YumCha Tablets, LLC"), thereby expanding the ecosystem and making the platform more attractive to the people that can DO development for it. Which, unfortunately, isn't me. Wish it was. I'd be all over this if I knew WTF I was doing.
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sd_shadow said:
Fire (7"), Fire HD 8, and Fire HD 10
Amazon Fire (7")
Specs: microSD slot...
Price: $49.99
For only $50 it looks pretty good.
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Spec also includes Bluetooth, which will make it a definite contender for my shop as a media player/general purpose internet lookup device. I've really set my expectations low so that they'll be easy to exceed - after all, it's going to be replacing a rather arthritic gTablet running Vegan Tab Gingerbread that's due to be put out to pasture, so this should be a marked improvement.
Preorderd as soon as I found out about it.
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paarkhi said:
Yes, already pre-ordered but $50 has sponsored screen-saver
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Sponsored screen saver won't bother me, as it'll (hopefully) be spending most of it time in a cabinet as a media player.
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Just Jack said:
I'd really like to see the following:
1 - Root.
2 - Some way of either completely unlocking the new Fire OS or better yet, replacing it with a clean Lollipop or Marshmallow load
Yes, there are certainly cheap $50 Android devices out there, but I'd rather (given the chance) use a more supported hardware platform that more people will buy (Amazon Kindle vs. "YumCha Tablets, LLC"), thereby expanding the ecosystem and making the platform more attractive to the people that can DO development for it. Which, unfortunately, isn't me. Wish it was. I'd be all over this if I knew WTF I was doing.
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Spec also includes Bluetooth, which will make it a definite contender for my shop as a media player/general purpose internet lookup device. I've really set my expectations low so that they'll be easy to exceed - after all, it's going to be replacing a rather arthritic gTablet running Vegan Tab Gingerbread that's due to be put out to pasture, so this should be a marked improvement.
Preorderd as soon as I found out about it.
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Sponsored screen saver won't bother me, as it'll (hopefully) be spending most of it time in a cabinet as a media player.
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Question to admins - Why do three separate, discrete replies to three different messages count as a single post? There aren't any "me too!" posts in there, I was responding to three different messages and my post count hasn't increased at all. Not trying to post pad or anything, just wondering.

Just Jack said:
Question to admins - Why do three separate, discrete replies to three different messages count as a single post? There aren't any "me too!" posts in there, I was responding to three different messages and my post count hasn't increased at all. Not trying to post pad or anything, just wondering.
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It's a time and space thing.
If you reply within a certain time, and no one else has replied, often post is added to your first post.
It's not very consistent though.
I is kind of assumed, that is you are posting in the same thread, it is a reply to the same subject.
If each post was kept separate, I would have well over 12,000 posts...maybe.
I don't think discrete is the right word, this is a public forum, and visible to anyone on the web.

sd_shadow said:
It's a time and space thing.
If you reply within a certain time, and no one else has replied, often post is added to your first post.
It's not very consistent though.
I is kind of assumed, that is you are posting in the same thread, it is a reply to the same subject.
If each post was kept separate, I would have well over 12,000 posts...maybe.
I don't think discrete is the right word, this is a public forum, and visible to anyone on the web.
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Thanks for the response. Just felt it odd that as I was replying to separate messages (albeit in the same thread, yes) that they'd all be counted as a single response. Weird.
Re: Discrete
Discrete is singular, standalone or unique (unique was the intended meaning), while discreet = Stealthy, private or hidden (what I think you were referring to)
Appreciate the feedback, though. Thanks for responding.

I've talked to a dev that is planing on trying to get it safestrapped with CM running.
Given my experience with the Fire Phone, I have no use for a FireOS device unless I can get CM running.

Moogagot said:
I've talked to a dev that is planing on trying to get it safestrapped with CM running.
Given my experience with the Fire Phone, I have no use for a FireOS device unless I can get CM running.
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Noob here, is FireOS that limited? Because I've heard people saying that they won't get it just because of FireOS
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looks nice
just got mine and for a $50.00 tablet it's pretty smooth. of course I haven't had a chance to play with it yet. But still pretty good.

Received mine today. It seems to have lots of light bleed though, and the screen feels very 'sticky' (finger doesn't run across screen smoothly). I know it's a cheap tablet but had expected more as I'd heard Amazon devices generally had good build quality.

I'm playing around with the Fire 8 right now. Terrible bleed on the top left and right corners of the screen. Other than that, the build quality is good and it's a smooth experience. Really hoping to see CM on these, Fire OS is gross.
Does anyone know when/how the XDA boards for these devices will be set up? I'm willing to test root methods/bootloader unlocks/recovery flashes/OS flashes.

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I'm playing around with the Fire 8 right now. Terrible bleed on the top left and right corners of the screen. Other than that, the build quality is good and it's a smooth experience. Really hoping to see CM on these, Fire OS is gross.
Does anyone know when/how the XDA boards for these devices will be set up? I'm willing to test root methods/bootloader unlocks/recovery flashes/OS flashes.
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See
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3205450
For the 8" & 10"
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Yup. Also received all six of mine today. I agree the glass doesn't feel smooth, but I'm going to put a screen protector on them anyway. There is light bleed on the bottom (portrait) of the one I opened, but its not terrible. Just noticeable. The most noticeable thing is the extremely cheap plastic back/housing. Wow, it is super cheap feeling. BUT I'm not surprised or complaining. It runs smoothly and has decent specs and cost me $50 plus I got one free. Can't complain.
I'm keeping one for me to play with since my Nexus 7 2013 is acting all wonky lately. The other four will be Christmas gifts for our kids, and the last one I'll put back as a spare.
I'm happy as is, but if we can unlock the bootloader and/or root and install an AOSP ROM, then I'm golden.

Received Mine!
Live in the Seattle area and received mine today.
Seems pretty smooth functionality wise, and quick when I open/switch between apps. Can take a little bit of time to download and install applications. I would advise against trying to put Facebook on this tablet. It bogs it down terribly. If you have to have Facebook, I would find the Facebook Lite APK and side load.
Hoping that someone roots and makes a cool or ASOP for this tablet. Can't wait!

apart from rooting there's a way just to have the Play store?
thanks

New to this
thekroof said:
i'm playing around with the fire 8 right now. Terrible bleed on the top left and right corners of the screen. Other than that, the build quality is good and it's a smooth experience. Really hoping to see cm on these, fire os is gross.
Does anyone know when/how the xda boards for these devices will be set up? I'm willing to test root methods/bootloader unlocks/recovery flashes/os flashes.
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very new to this but would like to know when a cm or root is available for kindle fire 5th gen. Thank you

Play store
Got play store Woking on mine by following the guide in the fire phone forum here on xda

Amazon Fire 7" 5th Gen $50 Tablet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukv_gqlMa8g got mine and did a short 2 minute review clip, let me know thoughts. Thanks guys

Could been better at this price
Nice specs but could been better at this price. Spidotech Sleek W1 tablet offers the same features and the price is far less than the Fire tablet. It even comes with an HDMI support and external 3G dongle support.

found this
NOT a review
just a manufacture's feature demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIvwH_CvPxY
still looking for more detail on the specs
and maybe a review
ok found their website here
http://www.spidotech.com/
Android KitKat and 1.2GHz Quad-core processor
Peace
Ricci
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it's not cheaper here in USA
35.99 British Pound equals
54.62 US Dollar
then add shipping
a slower cpu
less storage (only32 gigs sd card support)
i think this is not a good deal
i could find more faults but for USA people Fire 7 is better
Peace
Ricci

Lero Bryant said:
Nice specs but could been better at this price. Spidotech Sleek W1 tablet offers the same features and the price is far less than the Fire tablet. It even comes with an HDMI support and external 3G dongle support.
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sorry, this is really stupid... I've never heard of spidotech, everyone has heard of Amazon. 50 bucks is a great price for a device like this

I would be very interested in this tablet if it had GPS. It would have a permanent place in my truck. But without GPS it's worthless to me.

paratwa53 said:
I would be very interested in this tablet if it had GPS. It would have a permanent place in my truck. But without GPS it's worthless to me.
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I'm sure you could always buy a GPS attachment rather it be via Bluetooth or another method and it'd still probably come out to be a very cheap tablet with GPS versus other devices available with both.

misticalx said:
I'm sure you could always buy a GPS attachment rather it be via Bluetooth or another method and it'd still probably come out to be a very cheap tablet with GPS versus other devices available with both.
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From all the descriptions I can find online about the MT8127, it does contain a GPS module (see image below). However, the picture also lists the 4-in-1 wireless MT6627 chip. What is the Fire tablet using for its wireless chip?
media.bestofmicro.com/O/Y/449314/original/MT8127.jpg
A potential concern is that Amazon lists MT8127D as the SoC of the new Fire, and I don't know if the "D" has any special architectural significance.
Does somebody already have nice teardown pictures, is it viable to solder a GPS antenna to the chip, if the GPS receiver is already there?

gribo4e4eg said:
From all the descriptions I can find online about the MT8127, it does contain a GPS module (see image below). However, the picture also lists the 4-in-1 wireless MT6627 chip. What is the Fire tablet using for its wireless chip?
media.bestofmicro.com/O/Y/449314/original/MT8127.jpg
A potential concern is that Amazon lists MT8127D as the SoC of the new Fire, and I don't know if the "D" has any special architectural significance.
Does somebody already have nice teardown pictures, is it viable to solder a GPS antenna to the chip, if the GPS receiver is already there?
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You can find some macro pictures posted here from days ago: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ama...o-photo-amazon-fire-2015-motherboard-t3227808
But I don't think it has GPS still from a quick look but I could easily be wrong, might want to ask in the topic if anyone saw anything specific.

We used the $20 off for the first order on amazon now coupon so for $30 I think this is an amazing lil tab
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I agree that Spidotech is a new brand as compared to Amazon but there’s no harm in giving it a try, specially at such a low price. I bought the Sleek W1 for my son and he loves it. The processor works very good and the tablet is perfect for everyday use. It also has a lot of pre-installed educational apps and games.

a1yet said:
it's not cheaper here in USA
35.99 British Pound equals
54.62 US Dollar
then add shipping
a slower cpu
less storage (only32 gigs sd card support)
i think this is not a good deal
i could find more faults....
but for USA people Fire 7 is better
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enough said i think your trying to pimp this tablet
post this somewhere else, where people care
this place is for the Fire tablet

Lero Bryant said:
I agree that Spidotech is a new brand as compared to Amazon but there’s no harm in giving it a try, specially at such a low price. I bought the Sleek W1 for my son and he loves it. The processor works very good and the tablet is perfect for everyday use. It also has a lot of pre-installed educational apps and games.
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What's more important for me is the stability. I do not want my table to hang, or crash often.

Hi,
is ANY version of the Cyanogenmod ROM compatible to this Tablet yet ?

titanic1955 said:
Hi,
is ANY version of the Cyanogenmod ROM compatible to this Tablet yet ?
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We are working on it, we just got a working recovery.
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johnw7 said:
What's more important for me is the stability. I do not want my table to hang, or crash often.
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So far, the new Fire looks stable to me. No hangups or crashes. The only thing is the RAM is slow, and it takes time to load a huge app like Facebook.
In Japan, it's sold at USD45 including shipping for Prime members, and it's totally worth it for day-to-day use.

I was thinking about purchasing an Amazon Fire for the amazing low price of $50. My main device of use since it was released in 2011 has been the 1st gen Kindle Fire. It was given to me as a gift, otherwise on my own I would've never ventured into the realm of owning an Amazon device because of its initial slave device status. It's nice to see current Android development on the Fire
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Amazon will release new Fire HD 8 Tablets models, next week?

I've seen some leaked information that Amazon is preparing, and that they will release new Fire Tablets and also a New FireTV-Stick, next week!
I have also noticed that several weeks ago, some colors of the FireHD8 sometimes are unavailable, in very short supply or are also offered Used-Like-New/Used-Very-Good, what could be a sign that Amazon is preparing to launch some new models with some enhanced features.
Does anyone know if this information is true and what we can expect in these new Fire HD 8 tablet (2015) models?

The new Fire HD 8 is here! What's new?
All-new Fire HD 8, now with up to 12 hours of battery life, 2X the storage, and 50% more RAM for faster performance - made for all day entertainment.
Last year's model had 8 hours of battery life, now 12 hours; 8 GB and 16 GB choices vs now 16 & 32 GB; 1 GB RAM now 1.5 GB same processor speed; microSD card storage old model 128Gb now 200GB; price is lower then old model 16Gb $90 32GB $120 same colors: black, magenta, blue, and tangerine. The big deal for this tablet is the addition of Alexa, but the same goes for the old model but you will need to update your software to get it.

I would like to add, that after checking the product description at Amazon.com, I have noticed that this newer model is also much thicker than the previous 2015 models, because this newer model now has 0.4 inches thick.
All-new Fire HD 8 (2016):
Product Dimensions: 8.4 x 5 x 0.4 inches
Shipping Weight: 1 pounds
Old Fire HD 8 (2015):
Product Dimensions: 8.4 x 5 x 0.3 inches
Shipping Weight: 1.4 pounds
This could perhaps be because this new model now comes with a higher capacity battery, which is larger and heavier.
I do not know if this information is correct, but if it is true, the new FireHD8 (2016) Model will be thicker (0.4" instead of 0.3" of the Old 2015 model), but it will be also heavier !
The Bad news is that Amazon just to keep lower the product cost and the final sale price, decided to stuck with almost the same processor instead of raise it speed a little bit, so that this NEW fire tablet could work with less lagging and more efficiently...
The good news is that Amazon finally decided to add 50% more RAM and also doubled (2X) the storage Memory !
The Best thing is that now the price is much lower, which makes these new Fire Tablets more affordable and appealing than other tablets brands !!
I already have an HD8 Fire (2015), but unfortunately due to a weaker CPU, the poorest Camera and Slower WiFi, compared with the last year model... I do not think I'll change my FireHD8 (2015) by this new 2016, because aside from memory and battery, I really can not find such big differences or improvements...
http://www.aftvnews.com/amazons-tablet-strategy-of-less-is-more/

ulises.rodriguez said:
same processor speed
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ulises.rodriguez said:
but unfortunately due to a weaker CPU
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It should be noted that this is actually a new CPU, not the same as last years.
MediaTek MT8163
Here are the details:
https://developer.amazon.com/appsan...ications/01-device-and-feature-specifications

SiXiam said:
It should be noted that this is actually a new CPU, not the same as last years.
MediaTek MT8163
Here are the details:
https://developer.amazon.com/appsan...ications/01-device-and-feature-specifications
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I totally agree on your comments about the processor, but what I meant was that Amazon must've taken advantage of this new hardware upgrade, to upgrade also the processor with a higher-speed, to help a little with the performance and operation of the NEW FireHD8 Tablet...
I already know that for watching or streaming videos, is not necessary to have a very fast processor, because all the newest tablets now bring hardware decoders and others separate components to help and accelerate these functions...
I am very happy with the new lower price, with the bigger Battery (12 hours), and with the addition of more RAM and Storage Memory, but I am very disappointed and don't understand why Amazon decided to lower the Front/Rear Cameras to 2MP/VGA, that was 5MP/720P on the previous 2016 model.
Another thing I do not understand is, why if most cheap Chinese tablets have GPS, none of the new Amazon Fire Tablets comes with GPS ?
Maybe this GPS function is not so necessary to some users, but it would be a very important addition !
However I think, as Elias already has mentioned on his excellent review in*www.aftvnews.com, that Amazon seems to now focus on selling best low-end tablets, at the lowest possible price:
"Amazon’s tablet strategy of Less is More"
"Amazon just announced their new Fire HD 8 tablet and in doing so, have dove deeper into their tablet strategy of: less is more. Amazon’s Fire Phone failure marks a turning point where the company stopped trying to go after the upper-end flagship hardware market, and started dominating the lower-end of the hardware spectrum. Last year’sline of new tablets reduced hardware specs across the board and cut prices by more than half. In doing so, they became Amazon’s best selling tablets to date, and include Amazon’s single best-selling device ever, the $49.99 Fire 7″ tablet, which incidentaly took the title of best-selling device from Amazon’s other budget device, the Fire TV Stick. This year’s new Fire HD 8 continues the trend of less is more."
http://www.aftvnews.com/amazons-tablet-strategy-of-less-is-more/

ulises.rodriguez said:
I totally agree on your comments about the processor, but what I meant was that Amazon must've taken advantage of this new hardware upgrade, to upgrade also the processor with a higher-speed, to help a little with the performance and operation of the NEW FireHD8 Tablet...
I already know that for watching or streaming videos, is not necessary to have a very fast processor, because all the newest tablets now bring hardware decoders and others separate components to help and accelerate these functions...
I am very happy with the new lower price, with the bigger Battery (12 hours), and with the addition of more RAM and Storage Memory, but I am very disappointed and don't understand why Amazon decided to lower the Front/Rear Cameras to 2MP/VGA, that was 5MP/720P on the previous 2016 model.
Another thing I do not understand is, why if most cheap Chinese tablets have GPS, none of the new Amazon Fire Tablets comes with GPS ?
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I think we can say with certainty that the camera is a cost issue. Last years model was a lot more money. GPS though in addition to cost may be that because it doesn't have a cellular version, so having GPS is useless on the go. You you could tether with a phone, but that device always has GPS anyway, so it becomes pointless to have it on the Fire.

Very unusual, except the first gen (2011)
Amazon has released 3 new versions every Oct
link to new 2016 Fire HD 8
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018SZT3BK/ref=fs_ods_fs_tab_FDAY
specs
[url]https://developer.amazon.com/appsandservices/solutions/devices/kindle-fire/specifications/01-device-and-feature-specifications
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and it is shipping with
Fire OS 5.3—based on Android 5.1.1, API level 22
Lollipop not Marshmellow
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Hopefully someone that owns both the 2015 & 2016 models
reports back the exterior differences, so we can know how to tell them apart.

sd_shadow said:
Lollipop not Marshmellow
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Keep in mind there is going to be an update soon after release to enable Alexa, which may update much more.

I have the new device here and looking forward to install google services/play store.
It's my first device with Fire Os so I am wondering if the tutorials for the 2015 model will apply for the new generation?

psyote said:
I have the new device here and looking forward to install google services/play store.
It's my first device with Fire Os so I am wondering if the tutorials for the 2015 model will apply for the new generation?
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the non root method for installing Google framework should work fine
on the 2016 Fire
but that is just a guess
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I received my HD 8 6th gen last night.
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SiXiam said:
Keep in mind there is going to be an update soon after release to enable Alexa, which may update much more.
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Right. Any updates on its eta would be appreciated!

sd_shadow said:
the non root method for installing Google framework should work fine
on the 2016 Fire
but that is just a guess
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Got mine yesterday and was able to install the Play store using the method. I'm not yet able to posts links on here, but there's a good tutorial on YouTube called "Amazon Fire Tablet - Google Play Store without root (Fast & Easy)".
I hadn't thought I would want to install the Play Store, but the Amazon "Appstore" is missing one of the two apps I need to be able to run for work. (It used to be on Amazon, but is no longer supported.)
General impressions of the tablet: It's light enough, feels solid (but a little cheap), and has a display that is completely adequate for the price. I'm a teacher and I'm using it at school with my students and it's great for that. Good screen size.

sd_shadow said:
the non root method for installing Google framework should work fine
on the 2016 Fire
but that is just a guess
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Yes that works fine using rootjunky tool. I have the 2016 version, got play store up and running fine without any errors. Just need a root hack now
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ahac85 said:
Yes that works fine using rootjunky tool. I have the 2016 version, got play store up and running fine without any errors. Just need a root hack now
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Is the old root method not working?
I think there is root for 5.3.1.0 firmware available.

Davidavdav said:
Is the old root method not working?
I think there is root for 5.3.1.0 firmware available.
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No this version is not rootable
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I got the new Fire HD 8 6th Gen and in the developer options it has the OEM Unlocking option to unlock the bootloader.
Edit: I was able to turn it on and it stayed on, but after the update and going through setting up the tablet up, now its disabled and I cant turn it back on.

Danny1976 said:
I got the new Fire HD 8 6th Gen and in the developer options it has the OEM Unlocking option to unlock the bootloader.
Edit: I was able to turn it on and it stayed on, but after the update and going through setting up the tablet up, now its disabled and I cant turn it back on.
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Yes, the unlock option is part of stock android, but that doesn't mean it will do anything

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Interestingly, the Mediatek chip supports FM radio, does anybody know if Amazon uses it? There's nothing in the specs...
Another thing I noticed on my German language version Fire HD8 is that I kept searching for the Blutooth sttings, which are hidden under "WLAN". Is this also true for the English language versions?

Jackie78 said:
Interestingly, the Mediatek chip supports FM radio, does anybody know if Amazon uses it? There's nothing in the specs...
Another thing I noticed on my German language version Fire HD8 is that I kept searching for the Blutooth sttings, which are hidden under "WLAN". Is this also true for the English language versions?
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FM didn't work on the 2015 models, but 2016's could be different
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