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Xoom ICS images soon to be available

Just saw this mail from JBQ on 'Android Building' groups:
I'm pushing the source code for Android 4.0.3 to AOSP. This matches
build IML74K. Kernel sources will follow as soon as practical.
Over the years, I've released 50 different versions of Android in
AOSP, not counting the SDK and CTS, and I think that this is the best
release ever.
Some noteworthy items:
-This version of Android is optimized for a wide range of devices. It
works on phones. It works on tablets. It works on devices that don't
quite have the horsepower of a Galaxy Nexus.
-From a straight AOSP, it works on Galaxy Nexus (the ones sold with
mysid and yakju builds), on Motorola Xoom (US variants), and on Nexus
S (all variants). Proprietary binaries will soon be available for
those devices at the usual location.
-Out of the box, this is the first time that AOSP works on 3 different
device families, the first time that it works on tablets, the first
time that it works directly on a device that's neither an ADP nor a
Nexus, and the first time that it works on Verizon devices.
JBQ
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Could we expect ICS images for the Xoom soon ?
Unfortunately I'm unable to post a link to that google group page - You can check out the 'The source code for Android 4.0.3 is now available' email thread in the 'Android Building' google groups.

You can't but I can
http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/msg/d73844b1c48f07bb
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Does this mean we could literally put ICS on the xoom now, or is there still a step to take to get a working image?
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JBQ just posted another email in the same thread releasing the proprietary binaries for the drivers, as well as the android-4.0.3_r1 for the AOSP git sources.
So I assume, if you build the AOSP sources with these binaries extracted in the right place, you'd be able to compile an image that would work on the Xoom.
I'm gonna try that tonight

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/android-building/mjEzwvc_J4k
"Below are the direct links to the various proprietary binaries. The
web page will update in the next few hours."

how long does it take to compile from AOSP again?
EDIT: and no this is not a request for a ETA

Lol, if I knew how to do this, aosp for xoom would be released in as long ad it takes to compile it and make it flashable.
Is anyone who is able, willing to do this for us not in the know? Please!?
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I think CyanogenMOD takes about 40 mins on a modern computer to build based on something I read. This will vary widely based on your CPU performance obviously. But this is probably a good ballpark: over 30 mins for a full build I'd say based on what I've read.

redmaner said:
You can't but I can
http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/msg/d73844b1c48f07bb
Sent from my GT-I9100 using CyanogenMod7
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He said the xoom camera doesn't work =(

I think it was something like 4 hours on a 2x quad-core machine with 16 GB of RAM. Can't be bothered to look up the source now.
I'm compiling it now on my dual-Xeon W5687 machine w/72 GB of RAM.
This guide is pretty good: http://www.freeyourandroid.com/guide/compile-ics
Follow the instructions for the Nexus and when you get to "lunch" this page will help:
http://source.android.com/source/building.html
3G/4G users want "full_stingray-userdebug".
Wi-Fi users want "full_wingray-userdebug".
New: Apparently you have to download the binaries and do a make clobber before you do a make according to this page: http://source.android.com/source/building-devices.html. Time to recompile
Note that is required that you use Ubuntu x64 (I'm currently using 10.04.3 LTS)

g1ddy said:
He said the xoom camera doesn't work =(
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who said it doesnt work in 4.0.3? everything should work out of the box according to JBQ
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AzN1337c0d3r said:
I think it was something like 4 hours on a 2x quad-core machine with 16 GB of RAM. Can't be bothered to look up the source now.
I'm compiling it now on my dual-Xeon W5687 machine w/72 GB of RAM.
This guide is pretty good: http://www.freeyourandroid.com/guide/compile-ics
Follow the instructions for the Nexus and when you get to "lunch" this page will help:
http://source.android.com/source/building.html
3G/4G users want "full_stingray-userdebug".
Wi-Fi users want "full_wingray-userdebug".
Note that is required that you use Ubuntu x64 (I'm currently using 10.04.3 LTS)
Looks like I overestimated the time it took to compile, it is done after 20 minutes. Now to test it
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which xoom are you compiling for? if your test are successful will you be sharing?

shakuyi said:
who said it doesnt work in 4.0.3? everything should work out of the box according to JBQ
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which xoom are you compiling for? if your test are successful will you be sharing?
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JBQ himself
http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/msg/4000560ec550c8fe

Right now I am compiling for Xoom Wi-Fi (as it is the Xoom that I have). I have to go off to see my friend's graduation so I wont be back for 3 hours at least.
If the Wi-Fi one works, I'll compile 3G/4G if someone hasn't beaten me to the punch yet.

aaaand to some how release it for the rest of us...???

g1ddy said:
JBQ himself
http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/msg/4000560ec550c8fe
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eh how often do you hold this big thing to take a picture anyways lol, no HDMI sucks but no biggie never had a use for it but have the HDMI cable lol

AzN1337c0d3r thanks! Looking forward to it!

Yeah, not a huge deal for me, but if we get ICS on the xoom, the speed and stability by itself is worth it!
am I correct in assuming that the camera and HDMI will eventually be fixed? We aren't talking permanent incompatibilities, are we?

ScottRTL said:
Yeah, not a huge deal for me, but if we get ICS on the xoom, the speed and stability by itself is worth it!
am I correct in assuming that the camera and HDMI will eventually be fixed? We aren't talking permanent incompatibilities, are we?
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lol no way will it be permanent we wont see an official update until they go those 2 items fixed, but it doesnt mean we wont have ROMs to use sooner than later!

ScottRTL said:
Yeah, not a huge deal for me, but if we get ICS on the xoom, the speed and stability by itself is worth it!
am I correct in assuming that the camera and HDMI will eventually be fixed? We aren't talking permanent incompatibilities, are we?
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These are most likely things that Motorola will have to handle themselves (especially the Camera).
Surprised by the lack of HDMI support however, I would have expected that part to be handled by the Tegra2-related bins. But not a big deal for me either.

shakuyi said:
lol no way will it be permanent we wont see an official update until they go those 2 items fixed, but it doesnt mean we wont have ROMs to use sooner than later!
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That's what I figured, just thought it was odd that the AOSP is released "officially supporting" Xoom, and the camera and HDMI out don't work... Or, is it just a generic tablet AOSP build and only some of the drivers or something...?

Ubuntu Phone OS

So I've Been a Big fan of Ubuntu for a while and I was thrilled to see that they will be releasing a phone OS sometime hopefully soon. Since I have the laptop dock I have always wanted to try to put full ubuntu on it. However that never fully worked on and had to be done on a blur based rom. I love the new JB rom I have on my phone as It performs well. But at the end of the video 21:00 Mark Shuttleworth, the Founder of Ubuntu stated that Ubuntu Phone runs on ARM based chips and Android Kenerals and Drivers.
I'm just wondering Who else would love to see this run and be compatible on the atrix AND the dock. If we still have a decent amount of developers I'm sure this is more than possible.
Heres the Link for the video:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
Just putting the idea out there, but if there are any developers capable of this I'd be more than happy to support.

phone spesification is enough for run and if canonical is behind this i think its possible

I was about to post this as a new thread but when I saw this thread I decided to post it in here.
Happy New Year!
According to the video below Ubuntu for Phones will be compatible with any Android designed-hardware. If I understood it correctly, Atrix last chance is with Ubuntu for Phones for sure.
http://www.androidcentral.com/canonical-announces-its-ubuntu-smartphone-os
I have already said that once before that one reason the OEMs lock the bootloader of their phones is to prevent other platforms to be installed to shorten the life of the devices.
Millions of capable Android devices have already been abandoned due to lack of software support which I blame Google directly to allow the implementation of Wild Wild West on Android platform. The only loser in Android world is and will always be the consumers. Ubuntu for Phones will be the left jab that Google didn't see coming. I personally looking forward to see what Ubuntu for Phones can bring this year.
Update: it seems Ubuntu for Phones will not be available until 2014

Seems BBC covered the story
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20891868
and in the article says that it will be released for the samsung galaxy nexus. porting from that to the Atrix may be hard, but it should be like CyanogenMod a little. So thats a little boost to say the least.
I also emailed canonical and showed interest in helping with the project especially with the lapdock capabilities, so ill let you guys know what I get back from them, and If its any useful Ill be sure to forward it to every developer possible.

Yes and simply
Yes it's possible for our Atrix, jus read that :
"Easier hardware enablement
We have teams based in Taipei, Shanghai, London, Beijing and Boston to engage with your engineering and factory operations – and their sole focus is to deliver a crisp Ubuntu experience on your device.
Ubuntu has already been adapted to run on chipsets using the ARM and Intel x86 architectures relevant for mobile devices, with the core system based around a typical Android Board Support Package (BSP). So chipset vendors and hardware manufacturers do not need to invest in or maintain new hardware support packages for Ubuntu on smartphones. In short, if you already make handsets that run Android, the work needed to adopt Ubuntu will be trivial."
So alright we don't MAKE handsets that runs android but we have one, we also have the kernel drivers no ? so with that it's like port a cyanogenmod ROM I think. My quote come from canonical web-site (sorry new member so I can"t post outside links ><) so it's a truth information

leclercqsteeven said:
So alright we don't MAKE handsets that runs android but we have one, we also have the kernel drivers no ? so with that it's like port a cyanogenmod ROM I think. My quote come from canonical web-site (sorry new member so I can"t post outside links ><) so it's a truth information
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Yep, we have Ubuntu drivers but we're not sure we will be able to use them. But indeed the project of having Ubuntu running as main OS on the Atrix is realistic as we have all the material (HW and SW) required for this, if our devs know how to use them, but I think a whole team would be required for a project this big. It's not just a port of Cyanogen, it's not about taking a kernel and some drivers and snap them with a more recent UI and newer apps. We only got a kernel and an X server, it's far enough but the thing is that this X server was published to run on dev platforms. But also know it can be used on an Atrix, but how to integrate it with a whole new platform ? It will require time mostly. I think. And devs. But we don't have many devs so we only have hope. But maybe the devs on XDA will look more at the Atrix and Webtop.

CSharpHeaven said:
Update: it seems Ubuntu for Phones will not be available until 2014
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Actually it's supposed to be available late 2013 - according to lifehacker....
http://lifehacker.com/5972559/the-ubuntu-mobile-os-introduced-today-coming-to-phones-in-2014

The Ubuntu Phones that ship with the OS will most likely be available in 2013 in the UK, and will clear american shores in Hopefully late 2013, but most likely will arrive around early 2014.
The OS itself will most likely clear for deployment sometime soon for the samsung galaxy nexus, as for a universal build I'm not sure If/when that will be available, so most likely we will have to see if one can be constructed for the atrix.
As far as the lack of developers, I fell that any and all developers that are still in possession of an operational atrix will want to test this, especially on a phone that isnt their daily driver and has capabilities of bringing back a strong webtop front.

absolutely possible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzc0uMXGFBY
i like the ubuntu webtop, its run smooth and fast :good:

I think the atrix should be able to run it. just not mine unless the new bootloader gets figured out

Well I really think that Ubuntu can run on the Atrix, because they share the same idea, which is killed by Google: The webtop.
We just plug the phone into a dock, connect it to a monitor and that's it. Besides, the original webtop is just a big browser without many supported applications.
Several webtop-mods have shown that it is possible to run a full Debian or Ubuntu Linux on the phone.
And having one OS for mutliple devices is the stratagy that Microsoft now tries with Windows 8 on Tablets. But other than Windows, Ubuntu really got the chance to do it right.

Possible to run, but...
Well, I'm sure, it won't be a real problem to run the Ubuntu phone OS on Atrix 4g, IMHO, I'm really suprised, they used Atrix 2 and his adventages in testing. It's but I'm sure, HW would not work on 100%. Everyone knows, what is a problem with HWA drivers fot ICS+ even on android. Fingerprint drivers will be problem too... the best roms are (at least in my opinion) GB ones. This is the "tax" we pay for extraordinary HW in Atrix 4G.
Another problem in optimalization is the date of release (futher in future...who knows, how many devs will stay..)

This OS already has its own section on xda and it hasn't even been released yet lol anyways u can share your thoughts on Ubuntu for phone here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2082789
Phone Slow? go HERE
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Like I said If I got an email back I would let you guys know and sure enough it came and here it is
Thank you very much for your interest towards Ubuntu on smartphones. We have received an incredible response and have been overwhelmed with the general positive feedback! Responses both from the general public and the industry have been far greater that we expected.
In order to make Ubuntu a truly fantastic smartphone experience we will be initially working with manufacturers who will build Ubuntu into their hardware. We anticipate market availability of Ubuntu on smartphones towards the end of 2013.
To reach this goal, and offer a great experience for future consumers, our first priority will be to respond to industry inquiries from manufacturers/OEMs, silicon partners, developers and mobile operators. If you are a potential industry partner, we’d like to learn more about you. Please register your interest through our web form: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/contact-us
If you are a mobile apps developer, and want to learn how you can help bring Ubuntu to the phone, you can also find more information on:
http://developer.ubuntu.com/gomobile
We are all excited about Ubuntu for phones, but it will take some time to get into the marketplace. If you leave us your email and country details, we will let you know when there is further news:
https://forms.canonical.com/manhattan/
Once again, thank you for your interest in Ubuntu!
Yours sincerely,
The Ubuntu for smartphones team at Canonical
Pretty much everything you could have read up on :/

Greetings to all on this New Year!!!(Almost late!)
Hello people.
Searching the past week about this topic, I found the "How to upload" Ubuntu for phones on Tegra Devices like our Atrix.
Here you could find some info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TEGRA/AC100
This will help un too: http://ac100.grandou.net/nvflash#debian_ubuntu_package
https://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra
And here, the Ubuntu for phones. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/quantal/release/
They recommend the Lubuntu 12:10 because it supposedly run from the box. I did not try this yet until I have all the tools(software & knowledge) ready...
It could be nice to have to opportunity to flash it like any ROM, but, sometimes I like the "hard" way in order to learn and develop myself.
Well guys, BON APPETITE !!!!!

While it's possible from a technical standpoint, I just don't see the developer interest which is a shame really, since the device's only weakness is the lack of updates.

Dav0 said:
Hello people.
Searching the past week about this topic, I found the "How to upload" Ubuntu for phones on Tegra Devices like our Atrix.
Here you could find some info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TEGRA/AC100
This will help un too: http://ac100.grandou.net/nvflash#debian_ubuntu_package
https://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra
And here, the Ubuntu for phones. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/quantal/release/
They recommend the Lubuntu 12:10 because it supposedly run from the box. I did not try this yet until I have all the tools(software & knowledge) ready...
It could be nice to have to opportunity to flash it like any ROM, but, sometimes I like the "hard" way in order to learn and develop myself.
Well guys, BON APPETITE !!!!!
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This option to install ubuntu is impossible. U would risk to delete/brick partitions or nands. We need a IMG file with the filestructure and flash it with the fastboot/CWM. I can mount ubuntu 11.04 but the problem is no UI loading. Only usable is the terminal.
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Hai_Duong said:
This option to install ubuntu is impossible. U would risk to delete/brick partitions or nands. We need a IMG file with the filestructure and flash it with the fastboot/CWM. I can mount ubuntu 11.04 but the problem is no UI loading. Only usable is the terminal.
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No is not impossible. You partition an SD card load it up with kernel and system and use a dual boot solution to boot into the kernel on SD card. Of course some minor changes needed on the kernel. But not impossible.
also porting cyanogenmod is not as simple as grabbing a few drivers and adding a few kernel bits. It is a monumental task of trial and error with hundreds of lines of code to patch and sometimes full libraries have to be re written. Shoot the radio layer on the atrix was a quick hack job on cm for atrix.
Porting Ubuntu is tho should be quite easy. And maybe could even one day live in that juicy 750mb web top partition.
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You'd probably have to have /home on the internal sdcard to use /osh for installing Ubuntu.
Funny that this is the third thread in the last few days talking about using stand-alone Ubuntu on the device.
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samcripp said:
No is not impossible. You partition an SD card load it up with kernel and system and use a dual boot solution to boot into the kernel on SD card. Of course some minor changes needed on the kernel. But not impossible.
also porting cyanogenmod is not as simple as grabbing a few drivers and adding a few kernel bits. It is a monumental task of trial and error with hundreds of lines of code to patch and sometimes full libraries have to be re written. Shoot the radio layer on the atrix was a quick hack job on cm for atrix.
Porting Ubuntu is tho should be quite easy. And maybe could even one day live in that juicy 750mb web top partition.
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I mean like webtop in atrix just docking u phone and start Ubuntu version 12.04 and not 9.04 jaunty . And a small question: why does nobody can make it work? there are big changes to make it work I think. Dual boot is without a proof not working for me
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Brainstorming.

Is this going to be like Ubuntu in that Ubuntu is essentially Debian with packages added, some tweaks, and different themes and whatnot? (Basically, not trying to undermine the work canonical puts into the OS.) I'm thinking this could be android , but tweaked in the same way Debian is tweaked to become Ubuntu. Or could this be straight up Ubuntu with the phone elements added in? Does anyone have any insight on this? I'd like to know more about what this is going to be.
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teh_cANONs said:
Is this going to be like Ubuntu in that Ubuntu is essentially Debian with packages added, some tweaks, and different themes and whatnot? (Basically, not trying to undermine the work canonical puts into the OS.) I'm thinking this could be android , but tweaked in the same way Debian is tweaked to become Ubuntu. Or could this be straight up Ubuntu with the phone elements added in? Does anyone have any insight on this? I'd like to know more about what this is going to be.
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In Free software, the individual software components are always being reused, and this is the correct practice.
Debian is the upstream distribution for Ubuntu, so the basic packages are related to Debian, and might have some small changes in Ubuntu.
However, the full composition is Ubuntu, which includes additional packages that are currently found only in Ubuntu.
It is acceptable and encouraged in Free software to reuse software components. That's the purpose of Free software.

teh_cANONs said:
Is this going to be like Ubuntu in that Ubuntu is essentially Debian with packages added, some tweaks, and different themes and whatnot? (Basically, not trying to undermine the work canonical puts into the OS.) I'm thinking this could be android , but tweaked in the same way Debian is tweaked to become Ubuntu. Or could this be straight up Ubuntu with the phone elements added in? Does anyone have any insight on this? I'd like to know more about what this is going to be.
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It's straight up Ubuntu, well a fork of Ubuntu for mobile resolutions, touch screens, etc. With added support for ARM devices and Android kernels. You can currently install the ARM version as a full OS on Nexus 7 devices, although it's far from polished as a full OS on tablets. The mobile OS is something different again, and should be great if it's done right. I already use Ubuntu 13.04 as my daily desktop environment, dual booting with winblows only for some games. Ubuntu for desktop just gets better and grows on me more each week, and each update. I imagine the phone OS will be similar, take a little learning, but become addicted with use.

I want to move my project ubnhd2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975081
(currently ubuntu 10.10 & HTC HD2 & DesireHD only)
to the new ubuntu version that comes out soon.
I have some Questions:
I there a standard x-org server or do they bake their own bread like android ?
Can i use Modules from a 2.6.x Kernel Source ?
Can they release it closed-source ?

zo1d said:
I want to move my project ubnhd2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975081
(currently ubuntu 10.10 & HTC HD2 & DesireHD only)
to the new ubuntu version that comes out soon.
I have some Questions:
I there a standard x-org server or do they bake their own bread like android ?
Can i use Modules from a 2.6.x Kernel Source ?
Can they release it closed-source ?
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1. don't know if there is a xserver involved or what, we will see when released.
2. hmm why would you want to do that? We dont know if canonical is using its own kernel based on the android kernel or if it will be the exact android kernel in which the device comes preinstalled.. We will see..
3. No.. sofar I am aware of, the core might be GPL'ed code, just like the Linux Kernel.. But we will first know when released, it could be LGPL too.. Thats what Qt is released on..
When it is released you will find the code on launchpad.

I really don't see why they can't use the same kernel that ships with the phones, since the android tree is included in the Linux kernel, and it is obviously open source. I think it would be trivial to redo tons of work that has already been done.
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Ehh they already said that they're going to use the standard android kernel of the phones....

blackout23 said:
Ehh they already said that they're going to use the standard android kernel of the phones....
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Not really.. They said it is compatible with the android kernel.. As of using its drivers which makes it easier for manufactures to support Ubuntu phone if they already build android phones .... They never said they support the exact one that came with the phone, they might have their own based of the nexus source with their own settings and patches which is what I believe ..
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jscurtu said:
Not really.. They said it is compatible with the android kernel.. As of using its drivers which makes it easier for manufactures to support Ubuntu phone if they already build android phones .... They never said they support the exact one that came with the phone, they might have their own based of the nexus source with their own settings and patches which is what I believe ..
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Would make sense as it would create more dev opportunities for everyone to try their hand at.
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Develeopers interested on Ubuntu Phone OS?

Everyone knows Ubuntu Phone OS will make debut soon! SO far I've been highly amazed by Ubuntu Phone OS. It's the ideal phone OS. Heart of a desktop PC & look of a phone OS My question is are our developers interested enough to work on this OS to port? If not, then I've the following idea. Ubuntu OS will work by default with a wide range of devices. (Just like every PCs can run Ubuntu..Their target is to give the option for every Android users to install Ubuntu on their device). But Atrix has some disadvantages for nvidia tegra 2 ap20h chipset.
I've made a request to Mark Shuttleworth to not to overlook our Atrix 4G here.As we are now stuck & little hope of ICS/JB, option of Ubuntu OS will be great for us. But as Atrix 4G uses an unique Nvidia Tegra 2 AP20H chipset, Ubuntu Phone OS may not work by default. The Ubuntu Phone OS developers may need to write additional codes to support our Atrix.
If you want Ubuntu Phone OS on our Atrix 4G please head over to this page & vote up my comment. (Saif Hassan). It will make him notice & hopefully we'll be able to say Hello to Ubuntu Phone OS on our Atrix.
NB: It's not Moto. So you can do it without hesitation

saiftheboss7 said:
Everyone knows Ubuntu Phone OS will make debut soon! SO far I've been highly amazed by Ubuntu Phone OS. It's the ideal phone OS. Heart of a desktop PC & look of a phone OS My question is are our developers interested enough to work on this OS to port? If not, then I've the following idea. Ubuntu OS will work by default with a wide range of devices. (Just like every PCs can run Ubuntu..Their target is to give the option for every Android users to install Ubuntu on their device). But Atrix has some disadvantages for nvidia tegra 2 ap20h chipset.
I've made a request to Mark Shuttleworth to not to overlook our Atrix 4G here.As we are now stuck & little hope of ICS/JB, option of Ubuntu OS will be great for us. But as Atrix 4G uses an unique Nvidia Tegra 2 AP20H chipset, Ubuntu Phone OS may not work by default. The Ubuntu Phone OS developers may need to write additional codes to support our Atrix.
If you want Ubuntu Phone OS on our Atrix 4G please head over to this page & vote up my comment. (Saif Hassan). It will make him notice & hopefully we'll be able to say Hello to Ubuntu Phone OS on our Atrix.
NB: It's not Moto. So you can do it without hesitation
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In terms of hardware, we're just above what they consider "entry level" (see http://9to5google.com/2013/01/02/ub...cted-to-ship-in-early-2014-based-off-android/)
So far we know that the OS is based in Android but without Dalvik and that it will use Android kernels. While that's great in terms of porting to existing devices, that may be an issue in terms of updates, as the Achilles heal of updates for Android is the kernel more than anything else.
Edit: Somewhat more detailed specs here
The Tegra 2 is classified as the 1Ghz Cortex A9, but our device does have more memory. The part that may be cause for concern is that the minimum requirements for Ubuntu Phone OS suspiciously fall in line with ICS minimum requirements.

I was thinking the same thing, we don't have fully stable ics-jb but maybe we can get fully stable ubuntu.
Update: just +1, hope he see it
Desde mi MB860

Lexord said:
I was thinking the same thing, we don't have fully stable ics-jb but maybe we can get fully stable ubuntu.
Update: just +1, hope he see it
Desde mi MB860
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We need more +1s to make him notice!

Lexord said:
I was thinking the same thing, we don't have fully stable ics-jb but maybe we can get fully stable ubuntu.
Update: just +1, hope he see it
Desde mi MB860
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Depends on what the kernel requirements are. The thing is, the display server can have a minimum kernel requirement, yet there is no information regarding what display server is going to be used. This makes it impossible to know if any applications written will be compatible, and without applications, your smartphone is just a dumbphone with an expensive data plan.
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We need more +1s to make him notice!
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You may have better luck in the Ubuntu Phone OS section of the forums. What you need is a thriving hub of activity, but what we have here is more like a retirement community.
However, I think that you'll find that if we want the OS on our phones, it's going to be a community effort that gets it there. If they'll be releasing readily install-able images, it's more likely that they'll target devices still in production rather than devices that have been out of production as long as ours has, especially considering the increasing number of hardware failures. To put it in perspective, Ubuntu's Unity DE currently relies on Compiz, which in turn is maintained by 1 guy, Sam Spilsbury, who left to pursue his education.

saiftheboss7 said:
Everyone knows Ubuntu Phone OS will make debut soon! SO far I've been highly amazed by Ubuntu Phone OS. It's the ideal phone OS. Heart of a desktop PC & look of a phone OS My question is are our developers interested enough to work on this OS to port? If not, then I've the following idea. Ubuntu OS will work by default with a wide range of devices. (Just like every PCs can run Ubuntu..Their target is to give the option for every Android users to install Ubuntu on their device). But Atrix has some disadvantages for nvidia tegra 2 ap20h chipset.
I've made a request to Mark Shuttleworth to not to overlook our Atrix 4G here.As we are now stuck & little hope of ICS/JB, option of Ubuntu OS will be great for us. But as Atrix 4G uses an unique Nvidia Tegra 2 AP20H chipset, Ubuntu Phone OS may not work by default. The Ubuntu Phone OS developers may need to write additional codes to support our Atrix.
If you want Ubuntu Phone OS on our Atrix 4G please head over to this page & vote up my comment. (Saif Hassan). It will make him notice & hopefully we'll be able to say Hello to Ubuntu Phone OS on our Atrix.
NB: It's not Moto. So you can do it without hesitation
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Just Upvote you! I hope they can make it for us Atrix users too. Not that I'm not glad with my Paranoid Rom, but it not a 100% top Rom, thx to Motorola
Will see in the future what the guys from Ubuntu have to offer. :victory:

RemixOS 3.x for Ultratablet?

RemixOS 3.x is available for about a month already. That is, if you are using a computer or Nexus 9/Pixel C.
So.. What about Ultratablet owners? No confirmation about any release or whatsoever. Are we not getting love anymore?

Considering the issues the ultratablet faced in getting version 2 due to nvidia drivers not getting released?
Don't hold your breath.
Unless someone from Jide can officially state it is getting version 3, assume it's not.

Unfortunately not likely. I had a twitter convo with Jide just the other day about this very question:
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that's depressing. i just bought mine in the spring and i have to say it was a bad decision as essentially, it immediately became deprecated. i love many things about it but i feel so cheated that its problems will never be addressed.
i guess it is my own fault for not researching enough? i am a good researcher but i guess i missed the most important things. i know it is pointless to fret about because what's done is done, but this is my only computer, and it was an expensive purchase by my standards. so it really bums me out when I get thinking about it.

That sounds a bit strange, nvidia roth devices are clearly tegra 4 device also. So whats the part nvidia doesnt support? Is it cause we have a Macallan board and the shield portable (roth) is a roth board?
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Roth board is probably running a 3.x arm kernel - and currently x86 Android 6.0 needs a 4.4.x kernel.
Jide probably could backport the needed commits for 6.0 to the 3.x kernel that the Ultratablet is using.
Possibly there could be a way to 'meld' the RemixOS [Android-IA] 2.x with [Android-x86] 3.x and get it to run. i.e replacing the kernel/modules in 3.x with 2.x and seeing if it runs

It does sound strange, and lacking a clear and in depth statement from Jide and Nvidia, we can only speculate.
There was a similar issue, going by Jude's oblique statement at the time, of an issue with nvidia drivers holding up remix 2 point something or other very ng released for the ultra tablet.

HypoTurtle said:
Roth board is probably running a 3.x arm kernel - and currently x86 Android 6.0 needs a 4.4.x kernel.
Jide probably could backport the needed commits for 6.0 to the 3.x kernel that the Ultratablet is using.
Possibly there could be a way to 'meld' the RemixOS [Android-IA] 2.x with [Android-x86] 3.x and get it to run. i.e replacing the kernel/modules in 3.x with 2.x and seeing if it runs
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Yeah but original Jide sk1w kernel is a 3.4.108 arm kernel, so hard to believe it's a nvidia part. Maybe it's a invensense mpu 3050 think, or an other device specific part, but from my point of view not a nvidia think. For google (Ex) engineers it should be easy to update our kernel to make it mm compliant.
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tschmid said:
Yeah but original Jide sk1w kernel is a 3.4.108 arm kernel, so hard to believe it's a nvidia part. Maybe it's a invensense mpu 3050 think, or an other device specific part, but from my point of view not a nvidia think. For google (Ex) engineers it should be easy to update our kernel to make it mm compliant.
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My bad, thought the Ultratablet was an x86 like a few other RemixOS tablets...
If they were provided with the kernel for the Ultra by nvidia rather than the sources then it could be a nvidia issue; especially as they don't seem too keen to push MM to Tegra4 devices; but also probably Jide hasn't touched their arm code too much since work started on the x86 version.

I have given up all hope of bugs with apps being fixed and have also given up on remix 3.0 for this tablet. Wish I would have never bought it.

mattvirus said:
I have given up all hope of bugs with apps being fixed and have also given up on remix 3.0 for this tablet. Wish I would have never bought it.
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Totally agree. A CM13 Rom is under development, but for now we are at the mercy of Jide and they have effectively abandoned this product. I, too, wish I had not purchased this. While the hardware is excellent, the Remix operating system falls short of its promises and potential.
The TF701T I sold to purchase this tablet was light years ahead in quality and I regret the decision every day.

Please stop telling people Jide has abandoned their products. It's not true. Have you even submitted any and all issues you have with the tablet OS?
Your Jide Ambassador is here!!!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7Ax2iU0m5g

Have they released anything new for the ultratablet since the .305 update?
Will there be any announcements regarding remix 3 in regards to the ultratablet, will be or will not be. Any news is better than nothing.
You can see why people feel like Jide has abandoned its product when we hear nothing from official representatives.

I left a link to ask Bill with your answer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7Ax2iU0m5g

Great, a PR produced video as an answer.
Bit half hearted really. And weeks after remix 3 was released too.

AmoraRei said:
Please stop telling people Jide has abandoned their products. It's not true. Have you even submitted any and all issues you have with the tablet OS?
Your Jide Ambassador is here!!!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7Ax2iU0m5g
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I have in the past submitted tickets and got little effective support. Consider that those of us who own the Ultra Tablet whether purchased in the kickstarter campaign or through various retail purchases PAID for a product that has less support that the free download for those who wish to run Jide's OS on a PC.
Perhaps Jide should consider a buyback program.

Help me help you. Sometimes all you need to do is send a update request in the last email. OR just come to me and say communication was lost between u and Jide.
Your Jide Ambassador is here!!!
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That's why I'm here. So Yall can be heard.
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Ok, well the WebEx app still doesn't work at all on my ultra tablet...I even made a thread here about it weeks ago and someone from Jide staff tested for a day and agreed it was broken.
That's one bug that has had individual attention without resolution.
If the product hasn't been abandoned....when can we expect 3.0?

I need your ticket#
Jide will continue giving updates but an upgrade is not possible until they get the chipset drivers for the tablet so it can work in the Marshmellow environment.
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@AmoraRei Can you please specify whitch chipset driver is the problem? Invensense MPU/Compass? Akm8963 gyroscope? Tegra GL Libs? Macallan board? Is it nvidia whitch drops support? And if yes what isnt supported and why?
Thanks
Thomas Schmid
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