To root or not to. - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, I'm Nick and I own a Nexus 6P and I have been researching a lot when it comes to rooting a device. Now I just don't know what to do. Should I root my device now or wait for Nougat to come and then root and maybe (if they update to Nougat) install a custom ROM like Pure Nexus or Paranoid Android?
What do you suggest?
By the way I'm a beginner when it comes to rooting and/or installing custom ROMs.
I'm open to any opinions or suggestions.
Thanks.

are you crazy asking that on xda? xD but yeah unlocking/rooting the nexus is great with the nexus root toolkit (easy program to use) so i say go for it as if you dont like it you can always flash the factory image and lock it like it was when you got it

My opinion if you just got your phone go ahead and unlock your bootloader now. That's because it will wipe all of your personal data and you don't want to have a lot of work into your phone just to start over. That doesn't mean you have to root. That's a personal preference. I say use your phone for a while and if you find need to root it then root it it's a rather easy process once you get going
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the only real question is, what do you need root for?
if you dont need to do anything special that requires root, then there is no need to root. On the other hand, if you want to do something that requires root, obviously go ahead and root it.
As suggested above, unlock the bootloader as soon as you can, leave it that way. There is no harm in doing so, and it will save you time/effort later on.

DarkWasher said:
Hi, I'm Nick and I own a Nexus 6P and I have been researching a lot when it comes to rooting a device. Now I just don't know what to do. Should I root my device now or wait for Nougat to come and then root and maybe (if they update to Nougat) install a custom ROM like Pure Nexus or Paranoid Android?
What do you suggest?
By the way I'm a beginner when it comes to rooting and/or installing custom ROMs.
I'm open to any opinions or suggestions.
Thanks.
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Everything you need to know is in my guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
You're better off unlocking your bootloader now. It will completely wipe your device so backup your important data first.

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[Q] Just got my Nexus 10, first steps?

I just got my Nexus 10 and haven't even turned it on yet. Giving it a nice charge.
So what's the first steps?
With my Galaxy Nexus, the very first thing I did was unlock the bootloader because anyway it wipes the device. Then I rooted it. And then I went along my jolly way. Eventually, months down the line, I installed Bugless Beast.
So what about this tablet? Turn on and unlock bootloader then root? Or do I want to get an OTA first in case it's on 4.2 and needs 4.2.1?
Anything else someone new to the Nexus 10 should know about?
By the way, I choose stability over experimental features. Hence, Bugless Beast on my GNex instead of some of the more feature-filled (but less stable) ROMs.
Thanks for you help!
turn it on --> get your update(s) to 4.2.1 --> unlock bootloader --> root --> install adaway and just leave it. the stock rom is great but i can't live without an adblocker. otherwise just give the developers time, as i said before, the stock rom is great
renna1992 said:
turn it on --> get your update(s) to 4.2.1 --> unlock bootloader --> root --> install adaway and just leave it. the stock rom is great but i can't live without an adblocker. otherwise just give the developers time, as i said before, the stock rom is great
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Exactly what I did
I prefer ROM Toolbox Pro for add blocking many other features that a rooted user will appreciate. I have the pro ver.
ROM Toolbox Lite (free version)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.liberty.toolbox
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Thanks guys. I'll do exactly that.
I hope we reach the point where ROMs are more stable and less experimental for the Nexus 10.
@jjdevega, Since I like to compartmentalize my tools (I already have a favorite ad blocker, file explorer, titanium backup, etc), ROM toolbox is less useful for me. Thanks for the suggestion though.
I'd recommend just keeping the bootloader unlocked
I like my device to either be completely stock, or custom. Leaving the bootloader unlocked on a stock, non-rooted ROM bothered me quite a bit lol (not sure why; I mean I know leaving the bootloader unlocked doesn't really do anything, but still...), and I would go between custom ROM's and stock a lot, locking and unlocking the bootloader each time too.
Yea, I was planning on leaving it unlocked. Unless I need to return the tablet for warranty purposes, there's no reason to re-lock the bootloader.
Well, actually there are security implications regarding unlocked bootloaders. That's actually why unlocking wipes your device, so that an outsider can't bypass security by unlocking the bootloader and then getting whatever information he/she wants.

[Q] New to rooting, nexus 10

Hi, I just recently bought a Nexus 10, and this is my first android device so I am new to everything. I am interested in rooting my device, and would like some information about it. How do I install this "CyanogenMod" I keep hearing about? I used the Nexus Root Toolkit to root my device already, do I need to do anything else? Is there some stuff you recommend doing now that I am rooted? Help would be appreciated, thanks!
evandan4 said:
Hi, I just recently bought a Nexus 10, and this is my first android device so I am new to everything. I am interested in rooting my device, and would like some information about it. How do I install this "CyanogenMod" I keep hearing about? I used the Nexus Root Toolkit to root my device already, do I need to do anything else? Is there some stuff you recommend doing now that I am rooted? Help would be appreciated, thanks!
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Well, its always good to see new users interested in rooting. To be honest rooting your device really opens up the world of android and the capabilities that people love about android. So you've already used the toolkit to root? And you've got CWM or TWRP installed?
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evandan4 said:
Hi, I just recently bought a Nexus 10, and this is my first android device so I am new to everything. I am interested in rooting my device, and would like some information about it. How do I install this "CyanogenMod" I keep hearing about? I used the Nexus Root Toolkit to root my device already, do I need to do anything else? Is there some stuff you recommend doing now that I am rooted? Help would be appreciated, thanks!
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Many would suggest that you get to know how the stock Android device works and behaves. You want to get acquainted with the true Android flavor before you get in to the good stuff.
I would say play around and enjoy your Nexus 10 how Google intended (Especially if this is your first Android!), and if you aren't 100% satisfied go ahead and root it.
Regardless, if you are intent on rooting you should check out the sticky in the Nexus 10 General section which has all the info laid out for you on how to root (and do many other things!) here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003731

Why root and mod

ehi guys, just got a N4.
I'm wondering, why root , unlock and install a custorm rom on a Nexus 4, Google?
Just asking what good things i can have.
And if is difficoult to unlock and root to install custom roms on a 4.3.
Thanks everyone
Reasons here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czTkHe7-lXw
Instruction here if you want to try: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018179
If you have to ask why then maybe you don't need root. You might brick your device if you try to install custom rom and do it incorrectly, just try rooting first. You don't exactly "install custom rom on 4.3", but over the entire device itself, wiping out your previous stock Android 4.3.
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There is no reason. People just want to do it. Don't over analyze simple things.
ismethajametovic said:
There is no reason. People just want to do it. Don't over analyze simple things.
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You might got that wrong here mate.
Mentioning a few examples, like making full backup of your device system or blocking ads , does it seem like rooting for fun or because someone wants to get more from his device?
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davibs said:
ehi guys, just got a N4.
I'm wondering, why root , unlock and install a custorm rom on a Nexus 4, Google?
Just asking what good things i can have.
And if is difficoult to unlock and root to install custom roms on a 4.3.
Thanks everyone
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This is xda and no need to make a thread to ask that question... Not trying to be rude but there are 100's maybe 1000's of threads and reasons pros and cons that you can look at and draw up your own conclusion. Again no disrespect but the choice is yours and the reason both pro and con are out there.
Check Development and Check Themes and Apps for your good stuff
Good Luck :good:
Rooting is mandatory! For the extra functions for your device! The custom ROM thing! Give it a try! Been using CM since the GNex! But have been using and happy with stock for a while now. But with out exploring what custom ROMs offer, your always going to be wondering what the fuss is about! So give it a try! Once your rooted and a custom recovery is installed. Its as simple as copying a few over to your memory, and flashing. CM and PA are good starts but usually find custom ROMs are more of a drain on battery.
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Themindbuddah said:
Once your rooted and a custom recovery is installed. Its as simple as copying a few over to your memory, and flashing.
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You dont need to be rooted to install a custom rom. (flashing the custom rom will give you root) You just need a custom recovery.

looking to root nexus 4 for the first time

hello everyone,
I am thinking of rooting my nexus 4 phone so i can upgrade to Marshmellow CM13. i have a nexus 7 that i have rooted many times but it is the WiFi only version and never rooted anything that has a cell connection before and considering i only have one cellphone i am a little hesitant.
the biggest question i have is how much should i be concerned about rooting and installing a custom ROM will delete my IMEI number? also when rooting and installing the ROM should i remove the SIM card?
thanks
phrozenstare said:
hello everyone,
I am thinking of rooting my nexus 4 phone so i can upgrade to Marshmellow CM13. i have a nexus 7 that i have rooted many times but it is the WiFi only version and never rooted anything that has a cell connection before and considering i only have one cellphone i am a little hesitant.
the biggest question i have is how much should i be concerned about rooting and installing a custom ROM will delete my IMEI number? also when rooting and installing the ROM should i remove the SIM card?
thanks
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None of the concerns you have are real. Root has nothing to do with your IMEI . You do not need to remove SIM card, although if you want to be careful, you can remove SIM card before root and nothing will be affected (just for your peace of mind).
You should get Marshmallow on your device, it will breathe a new life into it.
As for the rooting procedure, there are tons of resources available. You can basically get the toolkit, adb drivers and everything else is pretty self explanatory, step by step procedure outlined in the toolkit.
Rooting is not required to install a custom rom. All you need to do is install twrp and flash cm13 from twrp.
mohsinkhan35 said:
None of the concerns you have are real. Root has nothing to do with your IMEI . You do not need to remove SIM card, although if you want to be careful, you can remove SIM card before root and nothing will be affected (just for your peace of mind).
You should get Marshmallow on your device, it will breathe a new life into it.
As for the rooting procedure, there are tons of resources available. You can basically get the toolkit, adb drivers and everything else is pretty self explanatory, step by step procedure outlined in the toolkit.
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thank you for clearing that up for me. i was looking to eventually upgrade to marshmallow on my phone with a custom ROM since google stopped supporting it so i am going to see if the first release of CM13 will be stable enough.
phrozenstare said:
thank you for clearing that up for me. i was looking to eventually upgrade to marshmallow on my phone with a custom ROM since google stopped supporting it so i am going to see if the first release of CM13 will be stable enough.
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I would suggest installing AOSP 6.0 ROM, with YayPrime kernel. Or you can get a ROM that supports Layers and get GravityBox module which has everything for customizing your phone to your liking.
I found that CM overall has few bugs that get carried over from one version to another. I also found it to be a bit aggressive on the battery but that is totally dependent on the user. Enjoy :good:
I have a stock nexus 4.. running 5.1.1. Is there any benefit with me rooting the phone and putting on android 6? As google did not officially release android 6 for the nexus 4, will everything work on my nexus 4 if I install it? Sorry for the newbie questions but I have never rooted or installed a custom ROM before.
Thanks
brandcc said:
I have a stock nexus 4.. running 5.1.1.
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Same here. I installed CM13 yesterday without problems and I'm looking forward to receive updates for my phone since it still suits my needs.
Root is not required to install a custom rom. You only need a custom recovery to install a custom rom.
Although flashing ROMs may affect the efs folder that contains the imei information, it has never happened to me. Several members recommend keeping an efs backup somewhere safe just in case.

Please help upgrading Nexus 7 stock 4.4.4

About a year ago I was going to upgrade my nieces stock Nexus 7 wi-fi tablet on 4.4.4 but come to find out there was some bug in the OTA update that would brick the tablet. You had to jump through a bunch of hoops to update it like factory reset. Once my niece heard erase she didn't want any part of that. Fast forward to now and she got a fitbit type device and the software isn't compatible with the current version of the OS. So my question is...Is that bug fixed so I can take the OTA update now or do I still have to jump through all those hoops to do it? If I do have to jump through the hoops then how do I do it? Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
BoDontKnowDiddley said:
About a year ago I was going to upgrade my nieces stock Nexus 7 wi-fi tablet on 4.4.4 but come to find out there was some bug in the OTA update that would brick the tablet. You had to jump through a bunch of hoops to update it like factory reset. Once my niece heard erase she didn't want any part of that. Fast forward to now and she got a fitbit type device and the software isn't compatible with the current version of the OS. So my question is...Is that bug fixed so I can take the OTA update now or do I still have to jump through all those hoops to do it? If I do have to jump through the hoops then how do I do it? Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
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I did update a few days ago and it was ok untill it was time of the 5.1.1 update - brick, so I downloaded nexus root toolkit to get it quickly done.
Make backup using gmail or just root using nexus tool, backup with titanium backup and update to 5.1.1 or custom without worry
yaro666 said:
I did update a few days ago and it was ok untill it was time of the 5.1.1 update - brick, so I downloaded nexus root toolkit to get it quickly done.
Make backup using gmail or just root using nexus tool, backup with titanium backup and update to 5.1.1 or custom without worry
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Ok so I root with the tool and then flash the 5.1.1 rom or do I have to go up in order?
Go to settings, about device, updates and install all the way up to 5.1.1, it might be a few updates. If the error shows then just use toolkit to recover nexus from soft brick and that's it
yaro666 said:
Go to settings, about device, updates and install all the way up to 5.1.1, it might be a few updates. If the error shows then just use toolkit to recover nexus from soft brick and that's it
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Ok I used the tool and flashed the 5.1.1 stock image on it and relocked the bootloader. Now it is very laggy. Anyway to fix this?
BoDontKnowDiddley said:
Ok I used the tool and flashed the 5.1.1 stock image on it and relocked the bootloader. Now it is very laggy. Anyway to fix this?
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The stock 5.1.1 image makes the Nexus 7 really laggy, even when running the ParrotMod fix found in another thread.
My recommendation would be to run Pure Nexus ROM by GtrCraft (links are in the Download section for ROM and GApps, which you need for Google App Store and services). Of course, use the Nexus Toolkit or TWRP as the easiest ways to flash.
Then, flash the ParrotMod fix by parrotgeek1 to help speed it up.
Once all done, it should be as fast as it will get and you won't have any updates or OTA updates to install. Pure Nexus ROM has SuperSU in it, so it will be rooted. Some apps will not work when rooted, so keep that in mind (mainly banking and some streaming apps).
PutoFace said:
The stock 5.1.1 image makes the Nexus 7 really laggy, even when running the ParrotMod fix found in another thread.
My recommendation would be to run Pure Nexus ROM by GtrCraft (links are in the Download section for ROM and GApps, which you need for Google App Store and services). Of course, use the Nexus Toolkit or TWRP as the easiest ways to flash.
Then, flash the ParrotMod fix by parrotgeek1 to help speed it up.
Once all done, it should be as fast as it will get and you won't have any updates or OTA updates to install. Pure Nexus ROM has SuperSU in it, so it will be rooted. Some apps will not work when rooted, so keep that in mind (mainly banking and some streaming apps).
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Well I would rather not have it rooted if I can help it. I don't want my niece getting into anything a messing it up. I have read that the marshmallow pure aosp is much smoother or was that what you were talking about? Can I flash that with the nexus tool? I want to keep everything buttoned up for her.
You can use tool to flash recovery TWRP, then boot recovery copy rom aosp or slim or whatever you like, flash it and you're good to go. It'll take up to 15min.
Just read rom description and follow install instruction
yaro666 said:
You can use tool to flash recovery TWRP, then boot recovery copy rom aosp or slim or whatever you like, flash it and you're good to go. It'll take up to 15min.
Just read rom description and follow install instruction
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Sorry for my ignorance but if I use the aosp rom I would have to keep it rooted or no? When I updated to 5.1.1 I just unlocked the BL and then flashed 5.1.1 and then relocked it. Should I have installed a recovery? I didn't think I should since I didn't want to keep it rooted.
BoDontKnowDiddley said:
Well I would rather not have it rooted if I can help it. I don't want my niece getting into anything a messing it up. I have read that the marshmallow pure aosp is much smoother or was that what you were talking about? Can I flash that with the nexus tool? I want to keep everything buttoned up for her.
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There really isn't anything to mess up when the tablet is rooted. It mainly just gives you access to more settings and more customization.
If you are dead-set on using a non-rooted ROM, you could also use CyanogenMod, which is updated regularly.

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