[Q] Just got my Nexus 10, first steps? - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just got my Nexus 10 and haven't even turned it on yet. Giving it a nice charge.
So what's the first steps?
With my Galaxy Nexus, the very first thing I did was unlock the bootloader because anyway it wipes the device. Then I rooted it. And then I went along my jolly way. Eventually, months down the line, I installed Bugless Beast.
So what about this tablet? Turn on and unlock bootloader then root? Or do I want to get an OTA first in case it's on 4.2 and needs 4.2.1?
Anything else someone new to the Nexus 10 should know about?
By the way, I choose stability over experimental features. Hence, Bugless Beast on my GNex instead of some of the more feature-filled (but less stable) ROMs.
Thanks for you help!

turn it on --> get your update(s) to 4.2.1 --> unlock bootloader --> root --> install adaway and just leave it. the stock rom is great but i can't live without an adblocker. otherwise just give the developers time, as i said before, the stock rom is great

renna1992 said:
turn it on --> get your update(s) to 4.2.1 --> unlock bootloader --> root --> install adaway and just leave it. the stock rom is great but i can't live without an adblocker. otherwise just give the developers time, as i said before, the stock rom is great
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Exactly what I did

I prefer ROM Toolbox Pro for add blocking many other features that a rooted user will appreciate. I have the pro ver.
ROM Toolbox Lite (free version)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.liberty.toolbox
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Thanks guys. I'll do exactly that.
I hope we reach the point where ROMs are more stable and less experimental for the Nexus 10.
@jjdevega, Since I like to compartmentalize my tools (I already have a favorite ad blocker, file explorer, titanium backup, etc), ROM toolbox is less useful for me. Thanks for the suggestion though.

I'd recommend just keeping the bootloader unlocked
I like my device to either be completely stock, or custom. Leaving the bootloader unlocked on a stock, non-rooted ROM bothered me quite a bit lol (not sure why; I mean I know leaving the bootloader unlocked doesn't really do anything, but still...), and I would go between custom ROM's and stock a lot, locking and unlocking the bootloader each time too.

Yea, I was planning on leaving it unlocked. Unless I need to return the tablet for warranty purposes, there's no reason to re-lock the bootloader.
Well, actually there are security implications regarding unlocked bootloaders. That's actually why unlocking wipes your device, so that an outsider can't bypass security by unlocking the bootloader and then getting whatever information he/she wants.

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usb drive support and rooting

I read that USB support for jumps drives is not supported out of the box, but if you root the nexus 7 tablet and download a file manager it is.
2 questions,
1- is this accurate info and 2
2- if i root the tablet, does that mean that any updates google pushes in the next weeks or months wont alow me to update?
sorry if i dont actually know the terms and associations with rooting... i never did it for my phones as all how too's and info are not really put together well
Rooting won't stop updates.
loueber said:
if i root the tablet, does that mean that any updates google pushes in the next weeks or months wont alow me to update?
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You can re-lock your bootloader once you've rooted, though if you need to unlock it for any reason again, it will wipe the device.
In order to root, you need to unlock the bootloader. If the bootloader is unlocked, you do not receive official OTA's from Google and you have to rely on custom roms to get the latest update. Keep in mind, this is not a problem as this is a Nexus device and typically developers are very fast to integrate a new update from Google into their rom.
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You can re-lock your bootloader once you've rooted, though if you need to unlock it for any reason again, it will wipe the device.
In order to root, you need to unlock the bootloader. If the bootloader is unlocked, you do not receive official OTA's from Google and you have to rely on custom roms to get the latest update. Keep in mind, this is not a problem as this is a Nexus device and typically developers are very fast to integrate a new update from Google into their rom.
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Wait, what? Are you serious? This is the first I heard of this. How difficult would it be to re-lock the boot loader? I definitely want USB OTG support (curse you Google for not making this work out of the box!), that means I'm easily going to opt in favor of rooting to get that functionality... after I use it for a while of course to make sure everything works fine :laugh:. I would LIKE to have Google OTA updates, though, so re-locking the boot loader interests me somewhat, but certainly not the wiping if I unlock it again... *facepalm*
That said, with the last line you said, are you saying that a rooted/custom flashed N7... on say... CM9... would simply get their updates from CM9 devs instead?
And with that, if I root my Nexus 7, but don't ever lock the boot loader to receive OTA like you mention, then I'll.... never be updated. Right?
JaSauders said:
Wait, what? Are you serious? This is the first I heard of this. How difficult would it be to re-lock the boot loader? I definitely want USB OTG support (curse you Google for not making this work out of the box!), that means I'm easily going to opt in favor of rooting to get that functionality... after I use it for a while of course to make sure everything works fine :laugh:. I would LIKE to have Google OTA updates, though, so re-locking the boot loader interests me somewhat, but certainly not the wiping if I unlock it again... *facepalm*
That said, with the last line you said, are you saying that a rooted/custom flashed N7... on say... CM9... would simply get their updates from CM9 devs instead?
And with that, if I root my Nexus 7, but don't ever lock the boot loader to receive OTA like you mention, then I'll.... never be updated. Right?
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It is not difficult to relock to the bootloader, just a simple fastboot command via ADB. I see no benefit however in relocking the bootloader once you've rooted.
Forget about OTA's. The beauty of rooting and flashing custom roms is that you don't have to wait for an OTA's. CM team is going be producing nightlies for CM10 soon, hopefully the guys at AOKP will add the Nexus 7 to their new JB builds. I'm currently running MoDaCo 4.1.1, Paul did a great job with this rom. You won't get OTA's on custom roms, you have to update them manually, which is not a pain at all.
Nexcellent said:
You can re-lock your bootloader once you've rooted, though if you need to unlock it for any reason again, it will wipe the device.
In order to root, you need to unlock the bootloader. If the bootloader is unlocked, you do not receive official OTA's from Google and you have to rely on custom roms to get the latest update. Keep in mind, this is not a problem as this is a Nexus device and typically developers are very fast to integrate a new update from Google into their rom.
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OH BOY...see the main reason im getting the device is to send it to mother in law in MX. and it would be nice to send a USB chip with videos, or photos or other things if need be,
Since i wont have the device, installing custom roms is not really an option.
the whole point of the nexus device for me was the support and timely updates from google VS manufacturer branded versions that take forever to fix any issues.

[POLL] Have you unlocked your bootloader?

I was interested, after reading the thread "are you satisfied with your TF300?" to see just the proportion of owners that unlocked their bootloader, as this could have implications with the speed of development. I also noticed how many users said they were not satisfied when their tablet was stock, but became more satisfied when it was running a custom ROM. It seems to me that some people are unsatisfied with the stock ROM, but don't wish to unlock the bootloader and void the warranty meaning they wont be able to send it back should there be a problem, or sell it on for maximum retail value.
Please choose one of the options above, thanks! (It would also be interesting to post your thoughts on how this affected your satisfaction with the tablet)
RolloJarvis said:
I was interested, after reading the thread "are you satisfied with your TF300?" to see just the proportion of owners that unlocked their bootloader, as this could have implications with the speed of development. I also noticed how many users said they were not satisfied when their tablet was stock, but became more satisfied when it was running a custom ROM. It seems to me that some people are unsatisfied with the stock ROM, but don't wish to unlock the bootloader and void the warranty meaning they wont be able to send it back should there be a problem, or sell it on for maximum retail value.
Please choose one of the options above, thanks! (It would also be interesting to post your thoughts on how this affected your satisfaction with the tablet)
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I cant use a device w/o root... Same day they released the unlock bootloader I unlocked my device! All my android phones are rooted and or unlocked the day I got it.
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I did not unlock. I figured I will leave it stock until jellybean comes out and see how that goes. I did root though. Gotta have that.
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I'm rooted atm. Gonna wait until my warranty is done before I consider unlocking.
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I have unlocked and installed the Hydro ROM (see the development section) . It is smoother for sure, no browserlag any more.
First I made sure to have root, so that I could backup my current applications and their settings with Titanium backup. Then I installed TWRM, the modern equivalent of Clock Work Mod, to backup the stock ROM. By taking these precautions the riscs of creating a mess are fairly reduced.
I also used the stock ROM for approximately 6 weeks, to be sure that the hardware was alright and that the chances of needing Asus support in the coming year were small.
Unlocked and rooted the day I got the tablet. Been happily running Hydro since its release.
Still locked bootloader here but rooted off course. I'm waiting for official jellybean
If you are completely satisfied with your device, then don't tinker with it by rooting and unlocking. However, if you unlock the device and install a custom recovery, then it becomes very difficult to brick the tf300. You can almost always come back to a working stock official rom with a custom recovery by simply flashing the software directly downloaded from the ASUS website. I have no regrets about unlocking my bootloader.
Unlocked and rooted
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still on latest stock rom. since there will be an update to 4.1.1 i will not root or unlock (the bootloader) of the device. my girlfriend uses the tablet more intensively than me. rooting the device might cause a drop the WAF.
but i am planning to unlock/root as soon as asus stops developing for 300T.
eddyfr said:
Still locked bootloader here but rooted off course. I'm waiting for official jellybean
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Will rooting change otherstuff such as OTA updates, recovery or etc? Possible to unroot easily?
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i didn't unlock , but rooted.
Locked & rooted. Keeping warranty.
Still Charged Up
I am unlocked and have used clean rom, hydro 4.3, cm9, skank for ics, aokp for ics, aokp for jb, cm10 and am currently running skank for jb. For me personally, my tab has run the fastest & smoothest with the custom roms w/ little, if any lag at all. With the new TWRP doing /boot backups as well as external sd support, it is so easy now to try all the roms and find one you like.
I'm not unlocked. Like some, I'm waiting for the 4.1 update to see what I think of it. I find it runs slower than my phone for some functions like updating apps, so I'm leaning to unlocking for a faster rom.
Mine is unlocked & rooted. And yet, I didn't found a rom that would satisfy me - just the stock one But maybe I will try the Clean ROM.
Yes! Is the best that I do
Unlocked, rooted. Btw, rooting doesn't affect otas.
Oh, and I'm waiting for warranty to be almost up, then get it fixed. I have a dead pixel. Lol in know, finicky but still lol
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Not unlocked or rooted. Waiting on JB. The stock ROM may have issues but custom ROMs just introduce others.
I have unlocked my TF300G bootloader using ASUS Unlocker V.7 and also root it with CWM as my recovery. I'm still on TW .40 official ROM but I have tweaked the build.prop a little bit.

[Q] Would rooting/installing custom rom improve Nexus7?

I recently rooted and installed a custom rom on my phone and noticed huge improvements. Noticed my nexus was lagging on things that I would think shouldn't be that taxing on the device. Thought the OTA update to 4.2 would help but it didn't. Would rooting it get rid of that lag or is it just a nexus thing?
sourshin said:
I recently rooted and installed a custom rom on my phone and noticed huge improvements. Noticed my nexus was lagging on things that I would think shouldn't be that taxing on the device. Thought the OTA update to 4.2 would help but it didn't. Would rooting it get rid of that lag or is it just a nexus thing?
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Personally because of the big change over from 4.1 to 4.2 i decided to go back to stock for awhile and wait for the bugs to be sorted.
Re-unlocked and rooted, flashed faux kernel and is the best experience i have had to date. Meaning the least lag. Stock and custom kernel. Just unlock - root and then flash kernel. :good:
Not a detailed description but if you need further advice just say so......Just means unlocking installing CWM and SU...Then flash kernel of choice. recommend faux..
I've tried out a rooted nexus 7 and to be honest didn't see a huge improvement so I've decided to wait until Key Lime Pie comes out and see if they sort out the bugs otherwise I will root.
Kind of discouraging
root doesnt automagically improve the devices performance, its what YOU do with root access. oh, and what lag? not the tiniest bit of lag on my device. custom rom/kernel, and some optimizations. couldnt be happier. btw, mostly whatl root does is let you use root apps. you dont need root to flash custom roms/kernels. but you do need an unlocked bootloader. with root, you can control that rom/kernel, get to the devices main file system, change whatever you want, and otherwise be in complete control of your device.
I get my nexus 7 today, after a hour I rooted it, just for ad block plus and the ability to customize the navbar. Love root.
Blixz said:
I've tried out a rooted nexus 7 and to be honest didn't see a huge improvement so I've decided to wait until Key Lime Pie comes out and see if they sort out the bugs otherwise I will root.
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There will most likely be more updates to 4.2 before Android 5.0 comes out.
I personally think it does make it better. It all really matters how you use your tablet and what you put in it like the Kernel you install. Roms it really doesn't matter really what you get but I have always been a big fan for CM since first getting the G1, nexus one, the HTC G2/Desire z and it has always been the fastest rom for me.
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simms22 said:
root doesnt automagically improve the devices performance, its what YOU do with root access. oh, and what lag? not the tiniest bit of lag on my device. custom rom/kernel, and some optimizations. couldnt be happier. btw, mostly whatl root does is let you use root apps. you dont need root to flash custom roms/kernels. but you do need an unlocked bootloader. with root, you can control that rom/kernel, get to the devices main file system, change whatever you want, and otherwise be in complete control of your device.
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I had thought you needed SU access in order to flash a custom rom. Or is that just to use CWM which needs SU? Anyways if you unlock you must as well root it.....yes....!
Yeah as a few people have already said root alone will do mouthing for performance faux kernel, as far as I'm concerned, is a great addition to this great tablet.
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I actually get a lot of performance lag. Might be from alot of email sync but still it shouldn't have a half second delay after lock screen and moving between screens etc.
And I thought I would need to root to get my bootloader unlocked? I'm sure it's easier for the nexus than my HTC One X. Which was kind of a pain.
Yes using different roms and or kernels will make a massive difference to performance and or battery life but thats determined by which kernels and roms you use some are built for speed others for battery. If you had searched the forum you would have found this :silly:
Root will break some apps.
Just wanted to mention that unlocking your bootloader and rooting will break a few apps for the Nexus 7. I was all gung-ho to root my Nexus the first week I had it. Then I discovered I could no longer stream cable tv to it with Time Warner Cables app. Google Wallet also wouldn't let me link any cards to it's app while rooted or with an unlocked bootloader. A quick skim of the forum shows that rooting breaks streaming functionality on other subscription video apps as well. Depending on how you use your tablet, this might not matter to you. I ended up going back to stock for now, just because I wanted to use these apps. There is probably workaround, but I just didn't want the extra work....around. I think the Nexus 7 ultimate toolkit might let you gain temp root, I don't remember for sure tho.
Rooting will not effect performance at all. Your just gaining access to the root directory. It's what you do after that effects performance. Also just rooting does not effect the wallet app at all, this is wrong information. Wallet does a root check for security purposes and will show "unsupported device" within the app after rooting. Ignore that, it is just a root notification. Cards add correctly and it functions correctly. I can't speak on the other apps mentioned, but ill take a stab in the dark and start at user error
Custom roms will definitely increase performance. Stock 4.2.1 is a bit laggy, I recommend flashing liquidsmooth and see the difference!
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I stream movies using Flixster with my rooted N7. It's simple if you are rooted with Supersu. I go to settings in the Supersu app and uncheck Enable Superuser. After I finish streaming, I go back and enable it again.
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[Q] Please Help!

So I just rooted my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3 with Kingo. All I have installed so far is SuperSu Pro and Titanium backup. Im on android 4.3 and I have the MJE version. (which seems to be the most uncommon because I cant find any help anywhere, so im posting this thread). All I want to know is how or if I even can get the CyanogenMod rom on my phone. This is my first android device ever and I've had it for 5 months and Im definitely never going back to Apple devices. Anyway, I just rooted, I dont care about tripping Knox because I dont have a warranty anyways. I just need someone to explain to me how to get all the things I need including CM. From what ive read I need CWM and GAPPS.
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So I just rooted my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3 with Kingo. All I have installed so far is SuperSu Pro and Titanium backup. Im on android 4.3 and I have the MJE version. (which seems to be the most uncommon because I cant find any help anywhere, so im posting this thread). All I want to know is how or if I even can get the CyanogenMod rom on my phone. This is my first android device ever and I've had it for 5 months and Im definitely never going back to Apple devices. Anyway, I just rooted, I dont care about tripping Knox because I dont have a warranty anyways. I just need someone to explain to me how to get all the things I need including CM. From what ive read I need CWM and GAPPS.
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Slow down there. Lol. Do you have a developer edition Note 3 or just a regular retail Note 3 you purchased from Verizon?
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Slow down there. Lol. Do you have a developer edition Note 3 or just a regular retail Note 3 you purchased from Verizon?
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Lol sorry Im very new to android. I got it from Verizon but i enabled Developer mode if thats what youre asking haha.
khampton_03 said:
Lol sorry Im very new to android. I got it from Verizon but i enabled Developer mode if thats what youre asking haha.
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It's all good lol. No, developer mode just gives you some extra features if you want to debug your device. A developer edition Note 3 is a phone that was available directly from Samsung in a small quantity. It had the bootloader unlocked, which is a must for a AOSP ROM such as Cyanogenmod. Cyanogenmod requires a custom kernal, which a retail Note 3 (that you purchase through Verizon or another retail store) can not flash due to the locked bootloader. I would suggest peeking over in the Android Development section to check out the ROMs you are able to flash. Just steer clear of the ones saying for the developer edition or DE (for short). If you're wanting a ROM that has an AOSP feel to it though, check out Eclipse.
Here is a link for the Eclipse thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2620723
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It's all good lol. No, developer mode just gives you some extra features if you want to debug your device. A developer edition Note 3 is a phone that was available directly from Samsung in a small quantity. It had the bootloader unlocked, which is a must for a AOSP ROM such as Cyanogenmod. Cyanogenmod requires a custom kernal, which a retail Note 3 (that you purchase through Verizon or another retail store) can not flash due to the locked bootloader. I would suggest peeking over in the Android Development section to check out the ROMs you are able to flash. Just steer clear of the ones saying for the developer edition or DE (for short). If you're wanting a ROM that has an AOSP feel to it though, check out Eclipse.
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So could I somehow unlock the bootloader??
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So could I somehow unlock the bootloader??
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Many people have looked into that, and no luck so far. It is still locked for devices such as ours. Kind of sucks, I know. Almost every Android phone I've owned, I have ran Cyanogenmod on it. With Verizon being difficult about locking the bootloaders, and Samsung introducing Knox, I don't think we will see a bootloader unlock anytime soon, if ever. With the new 4.4.2 leak that BeansTown106 has made available for us here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726558
Kernal modules are enabled, so we may have a workaround in the near future for the locked bootloader. I would suggest not taking the OTA for 4.4.2, but instead flashing the leaked 4.4.2 that is available via that thread. Once you take the OTA, it isn't known if you'll ever be able to flash this leak, which may allow for a modified kernal and therefore AOSP ROMs. I may be mistaken in some of the details, and someone can correct me if I have said something wrong in this, but this thread will explain it a little better:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727876
Adam Browning said:
Many people have looked into that, and no luck so far. It is still locked for devices such as ours. Kind of sucks, I know. Almost every Android phone I've owned, I have ran Cyanogenmod on it. With Verizon being difficult about locking the bootloaders, and Samsung introducing Knox, I don't think we will see a bootloader unlock anytime soon, if ever. With the new 4.4.2 leak that BeansTown106 has made available for us here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726558
Kernal modules are enabled, so we may have a workaround in the near future for the locked bootloader. I would suggest not taking the OTA for 4.4.2, but instead flashing the leaked 4.4.2 that is available via that thread. Once you take the OTA, it isn't known if you'll ever be able to flash this leak, which may allow for a modified kernal and therefore AOSP ROMs. I may be mistaken in some of the details, and someone can correct me if I have said something wrong in this, but this thread will explain it a little better:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727876
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So back to the beginning haha how do I flash a rom or what should I do since I just rooted and only have supersu haha
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So back to the beginning haha how do I flash a rom or what should I do since I just rooted and only have supersu haha
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It all depends on what you want to do. How knowledgeable are you with rooting, Odin, and flashing in general?
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It all depends on what you want to do. How knowledgeable are you with rooting, Odin, and flashing in general?
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Ive never flashed anything and I dont know how to use odin. Lol
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Ive never flashed anything and I dont know how to use odin. Lol
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Lol. Oh goody. Well you're in for a lot of reading then. If you're already rooted and have supersu installed, then at least you have that part out of the way. The way that we install custom ROMs onto our phones (since the bootloader is locked) is by using Safestrap, developed by Hashcode. You can find any and all information you will need on it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610
Safestrap gives you the ability to have multiple custom ROMs on your phone, without having to flash directly over your stock ROM (if you don't want). It is an application that you download onto your phone, you then open it up and install custom recovery. Once that is completed, you will then see a Safestrap screen everytime you turn on or restart your phone. I would suggest reading through or at least skimming the thread via the link provided above.
Once you have created a ROM slot and have it selected as the active slot, you can then proceed to install a custom ROM into that slot. Once you have everything set up, you can then switch between the custom ROM in "Slot x" to the stock ROM slot, giving you a cushion in case you completely screw up.
You're going to have to decide whether or not you want to stay on the 4.3 base, or update to the 4.4.2 base leak. The only advantages of either one are strictly your personal preference. There are a few that prefer the 4.4.2 base over the 4.3 base due to one reason or another. If you want to update the the newest 4.4.2 base leak though, follow the instructions provided via this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726558
Adam Browning said:
Lol. Oh goody. Well you're in for a lot of reading then. If you're already rooted and have supersu installed, then at least you have that part out of the way. The way that we install custom ROMs onto our phones (since the bootloader is locked) is by using Safestrap, developed by Hashcode. You can find any and all information you will need on it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610
Safestrap gives you the ability to have multiple custom ROMs on your phone, without having to flash directly over your stock ROM (if you don't want). It is an application that you download onto your phone, you then open it up and install custom recovery. Once that is completed, you will then see a Safestrap screen everytime you turn on or restart your phone. I would suggest reading through or at least skimming the thread via the link provided above.
Once you have created a ROM slot and have it selected as the active slot, you can then proceed to install a custom ROM into that slot. Once you have everything set up, you can then switch between the custom ROM in "Slot x" to the stock ROM slot, giving you a cushion in case you completely screw up.
You're going to have to decide whether or not you want to stay on the 4.3 base, or update to the 4.4.2 base leak. The only advantages of either one are strictly your personal preference. There are a few that prefer the 4.4.2 base over the 4.3 base due to one reason or another. If you want to update the the newest 4.4.2 base leak though, follow the instructions provided via this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726558
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So I am going to install Kitkat by watching the video on the thread. He said something about making sure the "MD5's match". What does that mean?
khampton_03 said:
So I am going to install Kitkat by watching the video on the thread. He said something about making sure the "MD5's match". What does that mean?
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That, you don't really have to worry about honestly. I never check, though it may be good practice to. Just follow along with the video in the thread and you will be good to go. Just remember that after you install 4.4.2, you cannot flash 4.3 based ROMs. Also, there is a bug in Safestrap right now that renders the ROM slots somewhat useless, though you can attempt to use them at your own risk. If you want to flash one of the 4.4.2 based ROMs afterwards, it is suggested to back up the stock ROM, and flash the custom ROM in the stock ROM slot. All I can say is, goodluck. Lol. It is a fun process, though somewhat difficult at times. If you have anymore questions after the fact, just reply here. I'll help out as much as I can. It always puts a smile on my face to help convert an Apple fanboy/girl over to Android.

Tmobile 6T Variant Rooting

Hello All,
Maybe i have missed this same question somewhere in the thousands of post and search just give random threads of rooting in general. My question out to all the TMO variant users that have rooted their 6T. I have not rooted any phone since the Galaxy note 5 as I just fell out of the rooting as most apps these days did for the most part everything I need. Some things cant but i lived without. Anyway.. To all those 6T TMO users and rooted. What and why did you root your 6T? Elaborate in like apps you used that needs root. Maybe if I get enough people listing useful items that need root and cant be done with an unrooted 6T. I may jump back into rooting again.
Thanks in advance..
O. if there is another thread similiar to this one regarding the TMO 6T. Please link it here.
My List of Reasons:
DriftorX said:
Hello All,
Maybe i have missed this same question somewhere in the thousands of post and search just give random threads of rooting in general. My question out to all the TMO variant users that have rooted their 6T. I have not rooted any phone since the Galaxy note 5 as I just fell out of the rooting as most apps these days did for the most part everything I need. Some things cant but i lived without. Anyway.. To all those 6T TMO users and rooted. What and why did you root your 6T? Elaborate in like apps you used that needs root. Maybe if I get enough people listing useful items that need root and cant be done with an unrooted 6T. I may jump back into rooting again.
Thanks in advance..
O. if there is another thread similiar to this one regarding the TMO 6T. Please link it here.
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I picked up my 6t on the 10th and i am currently waiting for my unlock token to unlock my bootloader, the reasons why i would take the time to root are as follow.
(P.S. Going to make this as neat as possible for those who just want a list of reasons instead of rambling)
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* Magisk Modules
* Custom ROMs or/and Kernels
* TWRP Backups
* Kernel Auditor Edits (Battery Life or More Performance)
* Edit System files for what you need (Customization)
* Get the most out of what your phone can do.
* Audio Mods (Viper or Dolby Atmos)
* Adaway (I've never really seen in action but i think it is for Chrome or internet apps)
* Youtube Vanced (Non-Rooted users have this as well but with rooted users there are updates to the app right when they come out)
When you root your device you truly can do what you want, I use to own a V20 (LG) and had no what the **** root was but i came across it since my phone at the time was and lowkey is still trash but the point i am making is i was tired of waiting on LG to keep my phone up-to-date since it had a multitude of issues from hardware issues (Bootloops, Overheating, etc) to weak software (Terrible UI, Trash Updates, etc). Rooting helps me maintain my experience whenever or however i see fit, i don't have to rely on Oneplus (Although updates are fast) or even my Carrier T-Mobile, I control what happens and what exactly runs on my phone, not blindly allowing or even accepting that Oneplus or T-Mobile should know what is best for my phone; I truly set my own experience.
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* Titanium Backup (Backup important app data to then import later from a data wipe or something.)
* Adaway (Takes care of ads on the Internet but correct me if i am wrong.)
* Youtube Vanced (Youtube Red features, except downloading videos.)
* Kernel Auditor (Control the CPU and GPU and much more, use it to underclock or overclock your phone to save battery or increase performance.)
* Tasker (Don't know much about this one but you can set useful tasks to launch or run to suit your needs.)
* Flashify (On the go recovery or kernel backups, use it to flash a custom recovery (Very ****ing useful if you accidentally lost TWRP) or even a boot image i believe.)
* Titanium Backup or some other system app uninstaller (Uninstall bloatware that you want off your phone.)
* Gravity Box (Xposed) (Don't know if it matters on Android Pie but it is used to add features that you want to add.)
* Magisk Modules (Get modules that you need or want on your phone that suit your needs or wants.)
Sure there are much more but this is all i got for you man, others will reply to you with probably more suited reasons but i hope i gave you a better idea on why it's good to have root. Like i always say, i'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Anyway, take care dude.
Whhooooaaa. Hold your horses. Lol. The LG V20 rooted is a beast. Didn't even trade mine in for the promotion. The poster above pretty much covered the basics of why I will be rooting (forgot about the dual sim capability on T-Mo variant once converted to the international). Just got my unlock bin today (got this baby on Black Friday) so I'm ready to rock. Oh yeah, battery life. Saw a screenshot of someone had like 38 hours since last charge.
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This is the first device I have rooted in years, and I don't see any advantage to doing so. However, I did unlock the bootloader so I could flash the international firmware, then had to root to use Magisk hide so I could use Android Pay. Outside of flashing the firmware, I do not see any advantage to rooting.
I have the t mobile version as well and i wont go without root. I use it to copy new fonts, ringtones i create, and set as any sound. I change boot animations, every few days. I test other software within a rooted system. Just depends on your needs. Oh and the biggest advantages is viper. I use it and the op6 dual speaker mod. Not the one for the 6t. With root i was able to add a proper always on, the aosp version, and digital well-being.. plus its nothing to root. Or unroot. Just tested the 9.06 hydrogen os build and bc of root was able to copy stuff back to my standard oxygen os.
jacksummers said:
I have the t mobile version as well and i wont go without root. I use it to copy new fonts, ringtones i create, and set as any sound. I change boot animations, every few days. I test other software within a rooted system. Just depends on your needs. Oh and the biggest advantages is viper. I use it and the op6 dual speaker mod. Not the one for the 6t. With root i was able to add a proper always on, the aosp version, and digital well-being.. plus its nothing to root. Or unroot. Just tested the 9.06 hydrogen os build and bc of root was able to copy stuff back to my standard oxygen os.
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For the speaker mod, do you have to install Viper for it to work?
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phillymade said:
For the speaker mod, do you have to install Viper for it to work?
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Nope. I got my own i tweaked a bit.. ill share soon
Substratum is working with swift black. Another reason to root. I have to have a blacked out theme.
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well, I've rooted dozens of phones in my life, but my last 2, the Note 8, and this one, I havent found any real need to root; sure I would like Viper, and yes, I want to use Subs to theme, but thats it..
This phone is fast and smooth as any phone ever, with the stock rom, and not enough bloat or anything like that to make me root to get rid of; also, the "custom" roms that are out there are really nothing more than repacks of older setups, and, I dont see anything in any of them that are "must have's" for me. And, there are a few custom kernels as well, but, here again, I doubt they make the phone run any faster/smoother/better than it does right now..
I got my bootloader token weeks ago, but, still havent even bothered to unlock the bootloader yet, as I see no compelling reason to have my entire setup wiped and start again from scratch..
I guess if you haven't rooted much in the past, it remains a novelty to want to do it, but for those of us who have used mobile phones for decades now, this one is definitely awe sum, whether you root it or not, and, I am in no hurry what so ever to root it..
wase4711 said:
well, I've rooted dozens of phones in my life, but my last 2, the Note 8, and this one, I havent found any real need to root; sure I would like Viper, and yes, I want to use Subs to theme, but thats it..
This phone is fast and smooth as any phone ever, with the stock rom, and not enough bloat or anything like that to make me root to get rid of; also, the "custom" roms that are out there are really nothing more than repacks of older setups, and, I dont see anything in any of them that are "must have's" for me. And, there are a few custom kernels as well, but, here again, I doubt they make the phone run any faster/smoother/better than it does right now..
I got my bootloader token weeks ago, but, still havent even bothered to unlock the bootloader yet, as I see no compelling reason to have my entire setup wiped and start again from scratch..
I guess if you haven't rooted much in the past, it remains a novelty to want to do it, but for those of us who have used mobile phones for decades now, this one is definitely awe sum, whether you root it or not, and, I am in no hurry what so ever to root it..
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I'm not rooted yet, but awaiting my bootloader unlock token.
I love this phone and it's 95% sufficient without root. The only reason I want to root is so I can install AdAway. I have been using Blockada however it isn't working as smoothly as AdAway did on my Nexus 5. I have intermittent network issues with Blockada which aren't caused by the block lists that I have - I toggle it off and on again it will work fine. So root + AdAway it is for me.

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