CM ROM + TouchWiz Samsung apps = possible? - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

As it looks like no Marshmallow 6.0.x ports for Note3 are coming, it's time to move to CM ROMs.
However, I'm a frequent user and actually like many of the Samsung (TouchWiz based) apps:
1. Samsung camera - with HDR that actually works (and does double exposure)
2. S Health, S Note, S Planner, etc.
For me, the CM equivalents are not quite what I'm after (or in some cases do not exist at all).
So, is it possible to install a Cyanogenmod (say CM13) based ROM on Note3 (N9005 hlte) and then somehow install Samsung apps like the above (Samsung camera, S Note, S health, etc) into the ROM and actually have the function properly?
If yes, then what libs/patches/additions are needed?
Or, is the best one can hope for to install some of the TW 5.1.1 ROMs and then add the Samsung TW apps as needed?

No, those apps can't be used outside of touchwiz roms. You should have a look at this thread though http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/touchwiz-6-0-1-mm-successfully-ported-t3336469

@Sjant
Thank you! I will wait for the 6.0.1 Note 5 DarkLord port. :good:

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[Q] AOSP Vs Custom Roms

Hi Guys,
I recently rooted my note 3 SM-N9005 version 4.4.2 with kernel 3.4.0-1703205 and got a few questions which I hope you guys can help me with.
1) By installing AOSP or Custom Roms, will Knox be tripped by default? If yes, are there ways to avoid this for different AOSP or Customs Roms?
2) After installing either AOSP or Custom Roms, can I still install launchers on top of it? Will there be any problems running both simultaneously?
3) Do I need to restore back all the bloatware and back it up as original before proceeding to install either AOSP or Custom Roms or I can just proceed to install?
4) What is the main difference between AOSP & Custom Roms other then size differences? Which is better for note 3 in an overall view?
5) Currently which of the AOSP or Custom Roms are tops or best for note 3, should I'm looking more into performance of my device? ( batt life, speed etc. )
Cheers and Thanks in advance!!!
1. Yes, as you have the N9005.
2. You can install launchers on stock ROM
3. No
4. In this case, AOSP will be a custom ROM as well as it is not stock. If you mean what's the difference between AOSP and TW, it means you get the stock Google experience and lose all of Samsung's bloat and some useful features such as S Note and the S Pen apps (S Pen still works but not Screen Write or Action Memo).
5. AOSP imo - C-RoM. Note 3 TW - X-Note. Note 3 and S5 - S5 port by fahadali.
nicholaschum said:
1. Yes, as you have the N9005.
2. You can install launchers on stock ROM
3. No
4. In this case, AOSP will be a custom ROM as well as it is not stock. If you mean what's the difference between AOSP and TW, it means you get the stock Google experience and lose all of Samsung's bloat and some useful features such as S Note and the S Pen apps (S Pen still works but not Screen Write or Action Memo).
5. AOSP imo - C-RoM. Note 3 TW - X-Note. Note 3 and S5 - S5 port by fahadali.
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Hi Nicholaschum,
Thanks for the reply & clarification.

Will custom roms support s-pen?

Hello all,
I just bought the Note 3 and i was wondering if the custom roms (specially CM) have the full ability to use the s-pen including the notes and/or other related apps.
spider05906 said:
Hello all,
I just bought the Note 3 and i was wondering if the custom roms (specially CM) have the full ability to use the s-pen including the notes and/or other related apps.
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thats depend on room itself
most of roms support S-pen ( i dont know if CM support or not cuz my note 3 is Exynos)
may be you should ask in CM threat for Note 3 LTE
Thanks @Saif96,
I was expecting that since the whole idea of the Note series is using the s-pen
Iinstalled CM11 UnofficialbyTesmarek. And no. There is absolutely no support.Because it all needs the Samsung based touchwiz framework....
The pen works absolutely fine. But all samsung based features are missing....You need Samsung based Custom Roms.
Try Echoe Rom (iwill try this next) it looks close to the X-Note Rom which is dead on XDA but search for nonsolosmartphone and X-Note build 20...
there you go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2439633
Samsung based....

[Q] Lolliwiz?

Hi everyone, I am not a developer, and I know this question is probably redundant, but I am wondering what is the closest you can get to stock android lollipop with the note 4 specific features. I understand roms are either based on stock android or touchwiz framework, and you have to pick one or the other, but I'm really torn, I have flashed 5.1 on both my S3 and S4 and I absolutely love it, I'm still waiting for the lollipop update from telstra for my stock note 4, but I think when it finally comes around I'm going to be disappointed that it's more touchwiz than lollipop. I guess my question is like I said before, how close can you get to stock lollipop but retain s pen, multi window, etc? Would it be possible to start out with a TW base and swap out all of the UI and apps for stock LP ones? I know I'm way oversimplifying it, I just really want the best of both worlds, I don't really want to root my note unless I can get as close as I can to stock lollipop with the note extras.
dicko101 said:
Hi everyone, I am not a developer, and I know this question is probably redundant, but I am wondering what is the closest you can get to stock android lollipop with the note 4 specific features. I understand roms are either based on stock android or touchwiz framework, and you have to pick one or the other, but I'm really torn, I have flashed 5.1 on both my S3 and S4 and I absolutely love it, I'm still waiting for the lollipop update from telstra for my stock note 4, but I think when it finally comes around I'm going to be disappointed that it's more touchwiz than lollipop. I guess my question is like I said before, how close can you get to stock lollipop but retain s pen, multi window, etc? Would it be possible to start out with a TW base and swap out all of the UI and apps for stock LP ones? I know I'm way oversimplifying it, I just really want the best of both worlds, I don't really want to root my note unless I can get as close as I can to stock lollipop with the note extras.
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If you are not looking into rooting, I recommend Google Now Launcher. It is the most stock Android UI experience you can get on a nonnexus phone. Since it's just a launcher, you retain all your device features. If you are looking into swapping out all of the UI and apps from TW base to stock LP ones, however you will experience this error message everytime you exit out of an app: "Android.System.UI has stopped working", so I do not recommend that.
dicko101 said:
Hi everyone, I am not a developer, and I know this question is probably redundant, but I am wondering what is the closest you can get to stock android lollipop with the note 4 specific features. I understand roms are either based on stock android or touchwiz framework, and you have to pick one or the other, but I'm really torn, I have flashed 5.1 on both my S3 and S4 and I absolutely love it, I'm still waiting for the lollipop update from telstra for my stock note 4, but I think when it finally comes around I'm going to be disappointed that it's more touchwiz than lollipop. I guess my question is like I said before, how close can you get to stock lollipop but retain s pen, multi window, etc? Would it be possible to start out with a TW base and swap out all of the UI and apps for stock LP ones? I know I'm way oversimplifying it, I just really want the best of both worlds, I don't really want to root my note unless I can get as close as I can to stock lollipop with the note extras.
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You're awnser lies amongst the rooted side flashing a tw rom that is aggressively debloated of apps even some essentials and using stock ones from google and then i guess theming the rom to look like a stock pure lollipop. I heard there are some nice alternatives for the spen usage and multiwindow i have tried some in the past on pure android on note 2 but the experience is nowhere near the stock apps from tw, regarding spen and multiwindow.
dicko101 said:
Hi everyone, I am not a developer, and I know this question is probably redundant, but I am wondering what is the closest you can get to stock android lollipop with the note 4 specific features. I understand roms are either based on stock android or touchwiz framework, and you have to pick one or the other, but I'm really torn, I have flashed 5.1 on both my S3 and S4 and I absolutely love it, I'm still waiting for the lollipop update from telstra for my stock note 4, but I think when it finally comes around I'm going to be disappointed that it's more touchwiz than lollipop. I guess my question is like I said before, how close can you get to stock lollipop but retain s pen, multi window, etc? Would it be possible to start out with a TW base and swap out all of the UI and apps for stock LP ones? I know I'm way oversimplifying it, I just really want the best of both worlds, I don't really want to root my note unless I can get as close as I can to stock lollipop with the note extras.
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If you want to keep eveything, you will have to think about a launcher indeed. Goole Now Launcher will be the closest thing.
Google now launcher: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.launcher
I would say when rooted, flash CM12 official, and use CM SPen addon, in combination with notebuddy for you SPen features. You will only lose the multiwindow (links down below).
Spen Addon: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tushar.cmspen2
Notebuddy: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tushar.spen_helper
CM12 Official: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/orig-development/official-cm12-910f-910g-t3046965
Willem1975 said:
If you want to keep eveything, you will have to think about a launcher indeed. Goole Now Launcher will be the closest thing.
Google now launcher: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.launcher
I would say when rooted, flash CM12 official, and use CM SPen addon, in combination with notebuddy for you SPen features. You will only lose the multiwindow (links down below).
Spen Addon: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tushar.cmspen2
Notebuddy: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tushar.spen_helper
CM12 Official: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/orig-development/official-cm12-910f-910g-t3046965
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yeah but you still lose the epic camera quality.
as much as i dislike touchwiz and like cm12 i keep running on stock rom becouse the camera quality on CM based roms is just to bad.
if only there was a way to get the camera quality on a cyanogenmod rom it would be so awesome i wouldnt even care about the spen anymore

There are a ROM with allmost Samsung features ripped off?

i received a S5 and of an debt and i will use it, Im a motorola user and im used with rom's like "minimal ROM" with everything ripped, There are any ROM for S5 duos like that?
Thanks
You can use any touchwiz based rom and remove features you don't want at installation. Try epsilon for example that what i used.
If you don't want touchwiz at all, you can just flash aosp or cm rom, it removes all samsung features.
happyrkc said:
You can use any touchwiz based rom and remove features you don't want at installation. Try epsilon for example that what i used.
If you don't want touchwiz at all, you can just flash aosp or cm rom, it removes all samsung features.
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I hate this touchwiz, i will try this epsilon, it work the fingerprint?
Why its so dificult find a clean ROM for samsungs, touchwiz + bloatware sux Hahahah
Thanks
You can choose what stock features to leave, and fingerprint is one of them, so yes you can make fingerprint work.
There is also XtreStoLite which consists in a very debloated rom (500mb or so) and in an add-on which has every samsung feature from wich you can chose only those you need (like fingerprint or one hand mode). An the battery life its just...amazing. Minimal rom...maximal batt.

6.0 Marshmallow Touchwizz ROM without the bloat?

Are there any ROMs based on stock TW marshmallow for the Note3?
I was looking for something maybe based on Note5 Marshmallow but all the ROMs I can find are N5/S7 hybrids. I would dearly love just stock marshmallow with basic Note functions (like S Pen, Air Command and other decent Samsung apps) and none of the crap. Things like pre-rooted, multi-CSC, de-knoxed, etc. while nice bonuses aren't necessary.
Barring that are there any hybrid ROMs that at least just come with the basics instead of all the unnecessary bells and whistles?
Or if none exists yet, are there at least any ways of debloating after flashing a bells and whistles ROM?
In samsungviet there is a debloater script for S7 port.
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