Are there any ROMs based on stock TW marshmallow for the Note3?
I was looking for something maybe based on Note5 Marshmallow but all the ROMs I can find are N5/S7 hybrids. I would dearly love just stock marshmallow with basic Note functions (like S Pen, Air Command and other decent Samsung apps) and none of the crap. Things like pre-rooted, multi-CSC, de-knoxed, etc. while nice bonuses aren't necessary.
Barring that are there any hybrid ROMs that at least just come with the basics instead of all the unnecessary bells and whistles?
Or if none exists yet, are there at least any ways of debloating after flashing a bells and whistles ROM?
In samsungviet there is a debloater script for S7 port.
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Hi everyone, I am not a developer, and I know this question is probably redundant, but I am wondering what is the closest you can get to stock android lollipop with the note 4 specific features. I understand roms are either based on stock android or touchwiz framework, and you have to pick one or the other, but I'm really torn, I have flashed 5.1 on both my S3 and S4 and I absolutely love it, I'm still waiting for the lollipop update from telstra for my stock note 4, but I think when it finally comes around I'm going to be disappointed that it's more touchwiz than lollipop. I guess my question is like I said before, how close can you get to stock lollipop but retain s pen, multi window, etc? Would it be possible to start out with a TW base and swap out all of the UI and apps for stock LP ones? I know I'm way oversimplifying it, I just really want the best of both worlds, I don't really want to root my note unless I can get as close as I can to stock lollipop with the note extras.
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Hi everyone, I am not a developer, and I know this question is probably redundant, but I am wondering what is the closest you can get to stock android lollipop with the note 4 specific features. I understand roms are either based on stock android or touchwiz framework, and you have to pick one or the other, but I'm really torn, I have flashed 5.1 on both my S3 and S4 and I absolutely love it, I'm still waiting for the lollipop update from telstra for my stock note 4, but I think when it finally comes around I'm going to be disappointed that it's more touchwiz than lollipop. I guess my question is like I said before, how close can you get to stock lollipop but retain s pen, multi window, etc? Would it be possible to start out with a TW base and swap out all of the UI and apps for stock LP ones? I know I'm way oversimplifying it, I just really want the best of both worlds, I don't really want to root my note unless I can get as close as I can to stock lollipop with the note extras.
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If you are not looking into rooting, I recommend Google Now Launcher. It is the most stock Android UI experience you can get on a nonnexus phone. Since it's just a launcher, you retain all your device features. If you are looking into swapping out all of the UI and apps from TW base to stock LP ones, however you will experience this error message everytime you exit out of an app: "Android.System.UI has stopped working", so I do not recommend that.
dicko101 said:
Hi everyone, I am not a developer, and I know this question is probably redundant, but I am wondering what is the closest you can get to stock android lollipop with the note 4 specific features. I understand roms are either based on stock android or touchwiz framework, and you have to pick one or the other, but I'm really torn, I have flashed 5.1 on both my S3 and S4 and I absolutely love it, I'm still waiting for the lollipop update from telstra for my stock note 4, but I think when it finally comes around I'm going to be disappointed that it's more touchwiz than lollipop. I guess my question is like I said before, how close can you get to stock lollipop but retain s pen, multi window, etc? Would it be possible to start out with a TW base and swap out all of the UI and apps for stock LP ones? I know I'm way oversimplifying it, I just really want the best of both worlds, I don't really want to root my note unless I can get as close as I can to stock lollipop with the note extras.
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You're awnser lies amongst the rooted side flashing a tw rom that is aggressively debloated of apps even some essentials and using stock ones from google and then i guess theming the rom to look like a stock pure lollipop. I heard there are some nice alternatives for the spen usage and multiwindow i have tried some in the past on pure android on note 2 but the experience is nowhere near the stock apps from tw, regarding spen and multiwindow.
dicko101 said:
Hi everyone, I am not a developer, and I know this question is probably redundant, but I am wondering what is the closest you can get to stock android lollipop with the note 4 specific features. I understand roms are either based on stock android or touchwiz framework, and you have to pick one or the other, but I'm really torn, I have flashed 5.1 on both my S3 and S4 and I absolutely love it, I'm still waiting for the lollipop update from telstra for my stock note 4, but I think when it finally comes around I'm going to be disappointed that it's more touchwiz than lollipop. I guess my question is like I said before, how close can you get to stock lollipop but retain s pen, multi window, etc? Would it be possible to start out with a TW base and swap out all of the UI and apps for stock LP ones? I know I'm way oversimplifying it, I just really want the best of both worlds, I don't really want to root my note unless I can get as close as I can to stock lollipop with the note extras.
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If you want to keep eveything, you will have to think about a launcher indeed. Goole Now Launcher will be the closest thing.
Google now launcher: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.launcher
I would say when rooted, flash CM12 official, and use CM SPen addon, in combination with notebuddy for you SPen features. You will only lose the multiwindow (links down below).
Spen Addon: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tushar.cmspen2
Notebuddy: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tushar.spen_helper
CM12 Official: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/orig-development/official-cm12-910f-910g-t3046965
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If you want to keep eveything, you will have to think about a launcher indeed. Goole Now Launcher will be the closest thing.
Google now launcher: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.launcher
I would say when rooted, flash CM12 official, and use CM SPen addon, in combination with notebuddy for you SPen features. You will only lose the multiwindow (links down below).
Spen Addon: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tushar.cmspen2
Notebuddy: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tushar.spen_helper
CM12 Official: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/orig-development/official-cm12-910f-910g-t3046965
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yeah but you still lose the epic camera quality.
as much as i dislike touchwiz and like cm12 i keep running on stock rom becouse the camera quality on CM based roms is just to bad.
if only there was a way to get the camera quality on a cyanogenmod rom it would be so awesome i wouldnt even care about the spen anymore
I just got two of these phones for my wife and kid. Since I'm a Note 3 owner and have been on 4.4.4 Biggins ROM cause I love the customization and the Xposed modules, the Lollipop roms are kinda new territory for me. So - that being said - what are some things I need to know with rom'ing and rooting an S5? Both phones came with 5.0 and I am not sure if I should downgrade them to a 4.4.4 rom so I can use Xposed (from what I understand, Xposed doesn't work on Lollipop), but here's the questions I need help/advice with:
1. Is there a version of Xposed that works with Lollipop
2. What do I lose besides Material if I downgrade from Lollipop to KK
3. Are the radios for KK better or worse than the Lollipop ones
4. What's the most customizable (battery icon, tether, network speed indicators, status bar mods, themes, etc.) Lollipop ROM? Which is the most developer active ROM for LP & KK?
5. Which offers the best battery life? LP or KK
I could use some advice from you, the XDA community since I'm not a noob but don't feel like "experimenting" with unstable features since these aren't my daily phones.
Thanks in advance for any and all help.
Jesse
jessenj said:
I just got two of these phones for my wife and kid. Since I'm a Note 3 owner and have been on 4.4.4 Biggins ROM cause I love the customization and the Xposed modules, the Lollipop roms are kinda new territory for me. So - that being said - what are some things I need to know with rom'ing and rooting an S5? Both phones came with 5.0 and I am not sure if I should downgrade them to a 4.4.4 rom so I can use Xposed (from what I understand, Xposed doesn't work on Lollipop), but here's the questions I need help/advice with:
1. Is there a version of Xposed that works with Lollipop
2. What do I lose besides Material if I downgrade from Lollipop to KK
3. Are the radios for KK better or worse than the Lollipop ones
4. What's the most customizable (battery icon, tether, network speed indicators, status bar mods, themes, etc.) Lollipop ROM? Which is the most developer active ROM for LP & KK?
5. Which offers the best battery life? LP or KK
I could use some advice from you, the XDA community since I'm not a noob but don't feel like "experimenting" with unstable features since these aren't my daily phones.
Thanks in advance for any and all help.
Jesse
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Nice double post by the way
1) not for touchwiz based ROMs
2) You're flashing an old ROM over a new ROM, you lose your system and data
3) some say the L kernel has better battery life, most say it's worse. It's probably a toss up
4) You need to determine that for yourself. They are all basically the same due to locked bootloader, only TW based ROMs will work, which severely limits things
5) see 3
Pretty much the same thing ldeveraux said, except for the radios they are basically the same if you mean cell service. I notice no difference. Also, for a ROM that is most customizable I would say either MOAR or Alliance. MOAR has lots of user customized things while Alliance has themes.
Thanks for the replies. I realized based on your responses, how I might have been a little more vague than I intended, but either way, the answer I was looking for most was pretty much addressed. I've decided that I'm going to downgrade firmware to the latest KK MOAR rom since both phones have no other data and a wipe won't disturb anything. I have TiBu backups of the apps, settings, etc so I'll just reload them both. Also, since theming is less important to me than customization, MOAR is the way I'm leaning, but I was wondering what the daily driver experience has been like for both. Has anyone run both MOAR and Alliance long enough to see general battery life comparisons, speed, features? Like, for example, are either roms having issues with common functions, like screen sharing, GPS, MMS, tethering, KNOX, etc? Since I mostly run Xposed with the modules I like, out-of-the-box tweaked interface is less of a priority since I'll just tailor the functionality afterwards.
As always - BIG THANKS for taking a look at my post and taking the time to respond. I appreciate it.
Jesse
As it looks like no Marshmallow 6.0.x ports for Note3 are coming, it's time to move to CM ROMs.
However, I'm a frequent user and actually like many of the Samsung (TouchWiz based) apps:
1. Samsung camera - with HDR that actually works (and does double exposure)
2. S Health, S Note, S Planner, etc.
For me, the CM equivalents are not quite what I'm after (or in some cases do not exist at all).
So, is it possible to install a Cyanogenmod (say CM13) based ROM on Note3 (N9005 hlte) and then somehow install Samsung apps like the above (Samsung camera, S Note, S health, etc) into the ROM and actually have the function properly?
If yes, then what libs/patches/additions are needed?
Or, is the best one can hope for to install some of the TW 5.1.1 ROMs and then add the Samsung TW apps as needed?
No, those apps can't be used outside of touchwiz roms. You should have a look at this thread though http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/touchwiz-6-0-1-mm-successfully-ported-t3336469
@Sjant
Thank you! I will wait for the 6.0.1 Note 5 DarkLord port. :good:
Hey
I have a G900F and I'm wondering wich rom you consider to be the best and why. I have stock marshmallow and it's been laggy lately. I would like to give a try to a custom ROM. I'm interested in lineage os and resurrection remix but I'm not sure if I should use any of them since I read on the forum that both have some sort of problem with gapps. Can you help?
Tell me if it's safe to install any of the above or if you can recommend another.
Thanks
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Welcome to the S5 community @balangmusic,
Have a look at this thread for some ROM suggestions:
Which ROM do you like most?
RR 5.7.4 is a popular choice and I highly recommend using it. It is a little outdated in terms of security updates but it gets the job done and it is feature packed. LineageOS is currently a little buggy with Google Play Services, where your phone would freeze after auto updating.
Saber
or p h oenix rom
general rule - AOSP roms such as the ones you are interested in - can get nougat (which comes with perks such as extra features and extra security), bugs (as stated above) stability and compatibility issues (some have issues with fingerprint and sometimes camera) .
Touchwiz roms (e.g. Omega) - can only get up to marshmallow (or lollipop depending on the rom). more stable
I lean more towards Touchwiz based rom. if i wanted AOSP rom, I would have gotten a Nexus. I'm also not to concerned about what version of android i'm running.
I personally use Xtrestolite which is lollipop, touchwiz based and quite old. However, it's very stable. I'm having no issues.
Why do I use lollipop? - I really like Ktoonsez's Kernel.
In my opinion, I like Xtrestolite, or Alliance (although both are currently unsupported and are lollipop based at latest).
Omega is a Touchwiz based one (and pretty good) that supports Marshmallow now I believe. I reckon you should give that a try if you want a good balance between up-to-dateness, features and stability.
I'll post any links is you are interested in any of these and want links.
Edit: also very interested to hear about other good roms and people's opinions
Also Red's Revenge seems pretty cool and recent. havent tried it yet though.
Thanks man.
Can you give me links for omega and red's revenge?
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No worries
OMEGA - https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2714159
RED'S REVENGE - https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development/beta-red-s-revengeg900f-m-t-l-s-t3536409
Good luck!
Try them out and let us know how you go.
I have Lineage Os 14.1 on my S5 and it works perfectly, I think this is the best Rom because cyanogenmod turned in Lineage.
Went to Costco and picked one up fairly cheap. Not going to be heartbroken if no custom ROMs but would -like- a more AOSP experience as I've never particularly liked Samsungness.
I looked around a good bit but not having any luck beyond rooting existing ROM and debloated stock ROMs. Are there any unofficial LineageOS or other 3rd party ROMs that support the SM-T380? WiFi-only version so no modem support needed.
Bumping thread. I see there is a root option available but not any roms. Are any of the roms for other models compatible with the T380? Would love something clean with AOSP or no bloatware.