I just got two of these phones for my wife and kid. Since I'm a Note 3 owner and have been on 4.4.4 Biggins ROM cause I love the customization and the Xposed modules, the Lollipop roms are kinda new territory for me. So - that being said - what are some things I need to know with rom'ing and rooting an S5? Both phones came with 5.0 and I am not sure if I should downgrade them to a 4.4.4 rom so I can use Xposed (from what I understand, Xposed doesn't work on Lollipop), but here's the questions I need help/advice with:
1. Is there a version of Xposed that works with Lollipop
2. What do I lose besides Material if I downgrade from Lollipop to KK
3. Are the radios for KK better or worse than the Lollipop ones
4. What's the most customizable (battery icon, tether, network speed indicators, status bar mods, themes, etc.) Lollipop ROM? Which is the most developer active ROM for LP & KK?
5. Which offers the best battery life? LP or KK
I could use some advice from you, the XDA community since I'm not a noob but don't feel like "experimenting" with unstable features since these aren't my daily phones.
Thanks in advance for any and all help.
Jesse
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I just got two of these phones for my wife and kid. Since I'm a Note 3 owner and have been on 4.4.4 Biggins ROM cause I love the customization and the Xposed modules, the Lollipop roms are kinda new territory for me. So - that being said - what are some things I need to know with rom'ing and rooting an S5? Both phones came with 5.0 and I am not sure if I should downgrade them to a 4.4.4 rom so I can use Xposed (from what I understand, Xposed doesn't work on Lollipop), but here's the questions I need help/advice with:
1. Is there a version of Xposed that works with Lollipop
2. What do I lose besides Material if I downgrade from Lollipop to KK
3. Are the radios for KK better or worse than the Lollipop ones
4. What's the most customizable (battery icon, tether, network speed indicators, status bar mods, themes, etc.) Lollipop ROM? Which is the most developer active ROM for LP & KK?
5. Which offers the best battery life? LP or KK
I could use some advice from you, the XDA community since I'm not a noob but don't feel like "experimenting" with unstable features since these aren't my daily phones.
Thanks in advance for any and all help.
Jesse
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Nice double post by the way
1) not for touchwiz based ROMs
2) You're flashing an old ROM over a new ROM, you lose your system and data
3) some say the L kernel has better battery life, most say it's worse. It's probably a toss up
4) You need to determine that for yourself. They are all basically the same due to locked bootloader, only TW based ROMs will work, which severely limits things
5) see 3
Pretty much the same thing ldeveraux said, except for the radios they are basically the same if you mean cell service. I notice no difference. Also, for a ROM that is most customizable I would say either MOAR or Alliance. MOAR has lots of user customized things while Alliance has themes.
Thanks for the replies. I realized based on your responses, how I might have been a little more vague than I intended, but either way, the answer I was looking for most was pretty much addressed. I've decided that I'm going to downgrade firmware to the latest KK MOAR rom since both phones have no other data and a wipe won't disturb anything. I have TiBu backups of the apps, settings, etc so I'll just reload them both. Also, since theming is less important to me than customization, MOAR is the way I'm leaning, but I was wondering what the daily driver experience has been like for both. Has anyone run both MOAR and Alliance long enough to see general battery life comparisons, speed, features? Like, for example, are either roms having issues with common functions, like screen sharing, GPS, MMS, tethering, KNOX, etc? Since I mostly run Xposed with the modules I like, out-of-the-box tweaked interface is less of a priority since I'll just tailor the functionality afterwards.
As always - BIG THANKS for taking a look at my post and taking the time to respond. I appreciate it.
Jesse
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Since their is no closed framework on Samsung devices with lollipop TW, what's better the lollipop or old KitKat with tweaks that can look like lollipop and much more?
I have Verizon locked boot loader so CM12 and others are not a option
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Since their is no xposed framework on Samsung devices with lollipop TW, what's better the new lollipop or old KitKat with tweaks that can look like lollipop and much more?
I have Verizon locked boot loader so CM12 and others are not a option [/QUOTE]
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Since their is no closed framework on Samsung devices with lollipop TW, what's better the lollipop or old KitKat with tweaks that can look like lollipop and much more?
I have Verizon locked boot loader so CM12 and others are not a option
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of course, this is subjective depending on what is important to the end user but for me, without Xposed, I have chosen to hold back because I use several modules that I really like having. hopefully, Xposed will get updated to allow it to work with Lollipop!
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of course, this is subjective depending on what is important to the end user but for me, without Xposed, I have chosen to hold back because I use several modules that I really like having. hopefully, Xposed will get updated to allow it to work with Lollipop!
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I've found Lollipop to be much faster, with better battery. MOAR, Extreme Syndicate and others have almost anything you could want, with new stuff coming out often.
Stock rooted 4.4.4 with Xposed/Xtether serves all my needs and is wicked fast.
I had been waiting for my carrier (telstra) to release the lollipop update to my device (SM-N910G) before I rooted, I have now been updated and have rooted my phone, I'm currently still on stock recovery, everything else stock. I am pretty sure Xposed is out of the question for me being on the stock rom, I'm not really interested in installing a custom rom at this stage, is there anything else available that offers the level of customization that Xposed does that will play nice with my phone? Or am I mistaken and xposed should work with my device? I don't really want to stuff around and experiment too much like I have with other devices because I don't want to have to fix it over and over, I'm hoping others have experimented enough to tell me what works. I like the overall functionality of the device, I just wanted to change some things and add to the experience, I would like to be able to customize the Air Command for example, maybe change some status bar icons, change the dpi of some applications, make things a bit snappier, add some missing features, etc, I don't want to lose any of the baked in touchwiz functionality, any suggestions?
Xposed for touchwiz lollipop requires a deodexed ROM which you should be able to find in the development section for your SoC (snapdragon or exynos)
I saw there was an unofficial version of Xposed for touchwiz lollipop but it looked beta and unstable, any more info on that? By the way, is there any downside to a deodexed as opposed to odexed rom?
I was all amped up to finally make the leap from just being rooted (OC3) to installing a custom rom (CM 12.1) and spent a bunch of time researching the process and trying to figure out why my attempts to install a custom recovery were all unsuccessful. Then I came here and discovered why (AT&T locks the bootloader).
Now I'm feeling very deflated. Originally I thought I'd get a Nexus phone but I don't like the new Nexus offerings. The next best alternative to me was to pretty much go AOSP with my S4 (eventually moving to CM 13 once that releases for the S4).
So my main question is this: for someone who was interested in going pretty much as stock Android as possible, what's the best option among roms that I can install on my phone, particularly roms which will continue to give my phone life moving forward in terms of updates (marshmallow and beyond)?
And my secondary question is what, if any, reasons are there for me to install a custom rom if I'm not interested in bling? In other words, what are the functional advantages (e.g. enabling tethering, non-broken xposed, eliminating samsung/at&t bloat, etc)?
Appreciate any info and guidance!
I guess I have a 3rd question - is there any hope that we will ever be able to replace the bootloader and install roms like CM? I have no idea if anyone is working on that and it's just a matter of time or if it's considered to be an impossible task.
I can't answer your first question and I'm not sure why you are asking since you aren't able to install proper custom roms anyway..
You don't need a custom rom for a number of things you mention. Removing bloat can speed up your device, save battery, and put an end to some of the annoyances you get from unwanted apps. Xposed is great for customizing your phone and getting rid of that irritating high volume notification.
Finally, no, there is no hope of unlocking the bootloader. The S4 is old so fewer and fewer people care about it. There is a thread about it in the Verizon s4 forum...
My advice : get rid of your S4. Find a phone that uses stock Android and not all this custom TouchWiz rubbish.
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Hi all, thank you so much for you suggestions and kind attention.
I'm gonna buy this phone soon, I'm new here, I would like to know which is the best ROM suggested here.
For best I mean especially bugless, stable, well optimized, and possibly updated.. what is your experience about? Thanks for sharing
xXx Rom by @xXx ... more to stock rom... always reply/update/discuss about bug etc.. simple stable fast smooth rom...
SM G900F 6.0.1 xXx 4.7.1 Boeffla Beta 5
thank you a lot for answer. I'm a bit confused since Boeffla Beta 5 is just a kernel and I need all package of MM 6.0.1 with hopefully the Boeffla Beta 5 kernel. Where can I find it?
Maybe I've to install any ROM with MM and then install the kernel? (And then gapps).
Thank you a lot
TW Based
- Sixperience (It's not on XDA, Google it)
- xXx ROM
AOSP Based
- Samperia (XOSP, Xperia UI)
- PureGoogle (Looks like stock Nexus 5 ROM)
- Slim6 (Minimalistic Features, Fast)
CM Based
- CM13
- RESURRECTION REMIX
- crDroid
sixperience?Come on, there are much better .....
pepins said:
sixperience?Come on, there are much better .....
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Then name some.
[BIG RANT START] DON'T READ IF YOU'RE TOO SENSIBLE
All roms, they're almost the same. People get the sources, compile it, and release it.. and they all looks like the same.
Every non-stock-based (TW) rom looks and runs almostly identical.. They have almost the same functions, almost the same stability, they share the same "device tree" and kernel.
Even boeffla's kernel has no new features for AGES. And the "developer" just blames Samsung and wash his hands.. (and I have "donated" for his app)
I'm sick of no specific S5 stuff, improvements FOR s5 or performance tweaks FOR s5. I bet they mostly don't even USE a S5 anymore.
Even the ****ing microfone has ultra-low recording volume for AGES and no one cares. They just COMPILE what they DOWNLOAD from others and "release" it here.
And there are people THANKING them for making just this. Come on, it's not a matter of being ungrateful, but to be critical. I don't like mediocrity!
If you appear to be totally satisfied with the **** you're receiving, no one will give you more than ****!
And NO, I don't have to "do better" to complain about it or be critical about it. When did GOD say that you can't complain about something just because you can't do better? or it's just a xda's RULE to be a totally grateful lame fanboy about everything you're getting here? I'm just not mediocre.
But anyway.. peace for all.
On my old LG phone I used to run custom ROMs in order to free-up internal memory & squeeze out more performance (on an aging phone) and to get some additional features (on an aging OS). I haven't bothered to install a custom ROM on my Galaxy S5 because:
1) Stock Android 6.0.1 is really good.
2) Rooting enables you to remove bloatware and free up memory, via Titanium Backup. I've got all the apps I want and no memory shortage.
3) Installing the Xposed framework, and some Xposed apps (especially XtouchWiz) has brought to my GS5 all of the "built-in" features that I'd want from custom ROMs.
4) Custom ROMs tend to be a bit buggy and tend to waste a lot of my time because I have to update the buggy ROMs.
I am now perfectly happy with my GS5 and I can't think of a reason why I'd want to hassle with installing a custom ROM. But that's just me.
This sure turned into a whine fest. Install what you want. The great thing about having custom roms is the ability to flash different builds in order to get the features you want. I prefer stock cm13. Only issue that I have is Bluetooth stuttering on wake. There's it. Everything else is stable and predictable. Using xposed with a few modules adds some features normally in RR or Bliss but with, for me, without the lag.
Why I choose custom over stock? I cannot stand the thought of being locked down to a device I own outright. I should have the right to change my status bar. I should have the right to choose what apps I want on my device. I should have the right after paying 600 at the time to full control over my device.
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this became really good thread!! Thank you all for posting your experiences! For me really great and I can save really lot of time!
Please keep posting your choices!
really with Xposed apps is possible to have all features of custom roms?
CM13 is the official stock rom? There is one with root included?
What about "with stock rom you don't have all the control of the phone", is that true even with root?
Thank you
AICP 11
running AICP unofficial on KLTEVZW with unlocked bootloader. Currently have it set up with gestures and all just the way I like. Have flashed a few other 6.0 ROMS but keep coming back to this one. Bluetooth on screen unlock is kinda buggy with screen unlock but is similar to the issues from what I understand with CM13. Android Wear seems to work as it should with first gen Moto 360. I have a note 2014 as well and just use it to stream music to my bluetooth speaker. Tag or PM be and can point you in the right direction if you would like to try it out.
i like and have been using for a while [ROM] [Official & Nightlies] [BlissPop 6.01] 10/7 - [KLTE-SPR-DV-USC]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/unified-development/rom-wip-27-9-14-t2889474
too many
theres just too many but the best ROM i think would be PAC-MAN cuz its got a bit of everything, however i am yet to find a fully working one. closest i could find was Ressurection Remix. its pretty dope.
In my opinion. Tipsy OS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3393668
is the most stable and up to date aosp based rom out there for the S5.
Fast, smooth and zero bugs.
Incorporates the latest theming engine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/themes/projekt-substratum-t3423623
Xposed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811
works as well.
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I'll reccomend VanirAOSP. It is pre-rooted, faster and more stable than CM13, and looks quite cool.
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running AICP unofficial on KLTEVZW with unlocked bootloader. Currently have it set up with gestures and all just the way I like. Have flashed a few other 6.0 ROMS but keep coming back to this one. Bluetooth on screen unlock is kinda buggy with screen unlock but is similar to the issues from what I understand with CM13. Android Wear seems to work as it should with first gen Moto 360. I have a note 2014 as well and just use it to stream music to my bluetooth speaker. Tag or PM be and can point you in the right direction if you would like to try it out.
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Thank you all guys for posting your experiences!!
Chadwick108 do you have a 900F CID11 sold with unlocked bootloader?
G900v
Barabba11 said:
Thank you all guys for posting your experiences!!
Chadwick108 do you have a 900F CID11 sold with unlocked bootloader?
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Have Verizon G900V and unlocked the bootloader using the forums here @ xda
vaniraosp lacks lots of features, as I remember..
Im using aokp with no complains ... it seems faster than others with its default kernel..
crazykernel reboots if you change almost any default options, and boeffla's lacks features and has some untested/buggy governors (less than crazykernel though)
it seems real devs are abandoning s5 as everything is just in an alpha stage forever
Hi guys,
Finally upgrading my i9300 after 4 years of constant reflashing, rom and kernel fiddling and lots of fun, but its s5 SM-G900F time.
What I'm looking for:
Stability - I need all barebone stock features to work 100% - Camera, Phone, Cell Data, Wifi, GPS etc, the standard hardware stuff. No crashing and force closing and other problems associated with highly custom roms.
Performance - I'm looking for a performance upgrade over stock
Debloat - A ROM that comes without all the bull****. Stripped down to barebones where I can choose what I want.
Some of my favourites for my s3 have been Slimbean, Archidroid, CM11, and many others over the years that have been focused on my requirements above. I dont need anything fancy and feature packed, just fast, stable and consistent. Preferably lollipop but MM might be ok too, unsure of performance at this point..
I've tried researching but there are really just so many ROMs out there. A couple that have interested me are XtreSto Lite, SlightRom and Sixperiance, but i'm really hoping you guys can steer me in a more focused direction. Hope you can help!
Thanks!
Run a debloat script on the stock ROM for improved battery, performance, and no crapware
Lose camera quality on non TW ROMs too
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Run a debloat script on the stock ROM for improved battery, performance, and no crapware
Lose camera quality on non TW ROMs too
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Hello, I am interested on doing this. Can you link me to a thread for this matter in order to see the instuctions?
Thank's in advance
LapserHD said:
Hello, I am interested on doing this. Can you link me to a thread for this matter in order to see the instuctions?
Thank's in advance
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This is the one I use with MarshMallow
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/script-galaxy-cleaner-lollipop-t3156006
Works with Lollipop too
Flash from custom recovery