[Q] AOSP Vs Custom Roms - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi Guys,
I recently rooted my note 3 SM-N9005 version 4.4.2 with kernel 3.4.0-1703205 and got a few questions which I hope you guys can help me with.
1) By installing AOSP or Custom Roms, will Knox be tripped by default? If yes, are there ways to avoid this for different AOSP or Customs Roms?
2) After installing either AOSP or Custom Roms, can I still install launchers on top of it? Will there be any problems running both simultaneously?
3) Do I need to restore back all the bloatware and back it up as original before proceeding to install either AOSP or Custom Roms or I can just proceed to install?
4) What is the main difference between AOSP & Custom Roms other then size differences? Which is better for note 3 in an overall view?
5) Currently which of the AOSP or Custom Roms are tops or best for note 3, should I'm looking more into performance of my device? ( batt life, speed etc. )
Cheers and Thanks in advance!!!

1. Yes, as you have the N9005.
2. You can install launchers on stock ROM
3. No
4. In this case, AOSP will be a custom ROM as well as it is not stock. If you mean what's the difference between AOSP and TW, it means you get the stock Google experience and lose all of Samsung's bloat and some useful features such as S Note and the S Pen apps (S Pen still works but not Screen Write or Action Memo).
5. AOSP imo - C-RoM. Note 3 TW - X-Note. Note 3 and S5 - S5 port by fahadali.

nicholaschum said:
1. Yes, as you have the N9005.
2. You can install launchers on stock ROM
3. No
4. In this case, AOSP will be a custom ROM as well as it is not stock. If you mean what's the difference between AOSP and TW, it means you get the stock Google experience and lose all of Samsung's bloat and some useful features such as S Note and the S Pen apps (S Pen still works but not Screen Write or Action Memo).
5. AOSP imo - C-RoM. Note 3 TW - X-Note. Note 3 and S5 - S5 port by fahadali.
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Hi Nicholaschum,
Thanks for the reply & clarification.

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Will custom roms support s-pen?

Hello all,
I just bought the Note 3 and i was wondering if the custom roms (specially CM) have the full ability to use the s-pen including the notes and/or other related apps.
spider05906 said:
Hello all,
I just bought the Note 3 and i was wondering if the custom roms (specially CM) have the full ability to use the s-pen including the notes and/or other related apps.
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thats depend on room itself
most of roms support S-pen ( i dont know if CM support or not cuz my note 3 is Exynos)
may be you should ask in CM threat for Note 3 LTE
Thanks @Saif96,
I was expecting that since the whole idea of the Note series is using the s-pen
Iinstalled CM11 UnofficialbyTesmarek. And no. There is absolutely no support.Because it all needs the Samsung based touchwiz framework....
The pen works absolutely fine. But all samsung based features are missing....You need Samsung based Custom Roms.
Try Echoe Rom (iwill try this next) it looks close to the X-Note Rom which is dead on XDA but search for nonsolosmartphone and X-Note build 20...
there you go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2439633
Samsung based....

Advice for a good, stable and light Rom?

Hello.
It's the fist time I'm gonna flash a modded Rom cause after a year the phone its staring to do weird things. I'm still at 4.3 Jellybean.
My phone is rooted with stock TouchWiz.
The less wissles and options the better. I don't use the S-pen and would like to have a simple and battery friendly Rom with a good camera app.
Also I'm worry for the sdcard problems i read everywhere and stability.
I guess a Rom with 4.4.4 is better than 4.4.2 but in this so not sure.
What Rom do you recommend?
Thank you!
first you need to choice if you want TW or CM rom...
if TW you need to upgrade bootloader and flash stock KK rom and root and flash custom...
if CM11 no need to upgrade KK and you can flash what you want
for CM12 you need KK bootloader too
Thank you for quick answer.
I read that Cyanogenmod Roms are not optimized and made for Note 3.
Is there a Rom made specifically for N9005 with the features I posted?
1. Go to the Note 3 Android development subforum.
2. Read about the different ROMs.
3. Decide which one you want to try.
4. Flash it.
5. Repeat as necessary.
There are no short cuts. Do the research yourself, only you know if you'll be happy with your choice.
Ok thank you.
Will all the Kitkat based Roms have issues with the Sdcard I read I forums?
I recommend to you the rom which made by Alexander.. And omega rom as a second choice.. Good luck
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please, i have this rom
[ROM][N9005] Galaxy S5 Stock ROM - Final v40.0 - Clean, Fast and Stable - [OTA]
have i already in kk bootloader? or not sure? how can i check?
thanks
I'm trying to find Alexander Rom you suggested but i cant find it in the forum. (I'm new with all this about roms).
What is the name of Alexander's Rom?
Well you can use stock ROM, and uninstall all the nonsense apps with any root supported uninstall app, but you still will be forced to have those S related features, S-Scroll, S-Stay and all those nonsense features (which I never have used, ever). Now if you AOSP way then you won't have all those things and you will have a clean ROM but you will miss the lovely S-Pen integration of TouchWiz based ROMs.
So you have to decide according to your preference. I don't believe that AOSP/CM based ROMs are 100% bug free for Note 3, but please correct me if I am wrong. I am an AOSP lover too.
And I also don't believe 4.4.4 has much advantage over 4.4.2 other than some security patches.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2649176
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[Q] Lolliwiz?

Hi everyone, I am not a developer, and I know this question is probably redundant, but I am wondering what is the closest you can get to stock android lollipop with the note 4 specific features. I understand roms are either based on stock android or touchwiz framework, and you have to pick one or the other, but I'm really torn, I have flashed 5.1 on both my S3 and S4 and I absolutely love it, I'm still waiting for the lollipop update from telstra for my stock note 4, but I think when it finally comes around I'm going to be disappointed that it's more touchwiz than lollipop. I guess my question is like I said before, how close can you get to stock lollipop but retain s pen, multi window, etc? Would it be possible to start out with a TW base and swap out all of the UI and apps for stock LP ones? I know I'm way oversimplifying it, I just really want the best of both worlds, I don't really want to root my note unless I can get as close as I can to stock lollipop with the note extras.
dicko101 said:
Hi everyone, I am not a developer, and I know this question is probably redundant, but I am wondering what is the closest you can get to stock android lollipop with the note 4 specific features. I understand roms are either based on stock android or touchwiz framework, and you have to pick one or the other, but I'm really torn, I have flashed 5.1 on both my S3 and S4 and I absolutely love it, I'm still waiting for the lollipop update from telstra for my stock note 4, but I think when it finally comes around I'm going to be disappointed that it's more touchwiz than lollipop. I guess my question is like I said before, how close can you get to stock lollipop but retain s pen, multi window, etc? Would it be possible to start out with a TW base and swap out all of the UI and apps for stock LP ones? I know I'm way oversimplifying it, I just really want the best of both worlds, I don't really want to root my note unless I can get as close as I can to stock lollipop with the note extras.
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If you are not looking into rooting, I recommend Google Now Launcher. It is the most stock Android UI experience you can get on a nonnexus phone. Since it's just a launcher, you retain all your device features. If you are looking into swapping out all of the UI and apps from TW base to stock LP ones, however you will experience this error message everytime you exit out of an app: "Android.System.UI has stopped working", so I do not recommend that.
dicko101 said:
Hi everyone, I am not a developer, and I know this question is probably redundant, but I am wondering what is the closest you can get to stock android lollipop with the note 4 specific features. I understand roms are either based on stock android or touchwiz framework, and you have to pick one or the other, but I'm really torn, I have flashed 5.1 on both my S3 and S4 and I absolutely love it, I'm still waiting for the lollipop update from telstra for my stock note 4, but I think when it finally comes around I'm going to be disappointed that it's more touchwiz than lollipop. I guess my question is like I said before, how close can you get to stock lollipop but retain s pen, multi window, etc? Would it be possible to start out with a TW base and swap out all of the UI and apps for stock LP ones? I know I'm way oversimplifying it, I just really want the best of both worlds, I don't really want to root my note unless I can get as close as I can to stock lollipop with the note extras.
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You're awnser lies amongst the rooted side flashing a tw rom that is aggressively debloated of apps even some essentials and using stock ones from google and then i guess theming the rom to look like a stock pure lollipop. I heard there are some nice alternatives for the spen usage and multiwindow i have tried some in the past on pure android on note 2 but the experience is nowhere near the stock apps from tw, regarding spen and multiwindow.
dicko101 said:
Hi everyone, I am not a developer, and I know this question is probably redundant, but I am wondering what is the closest you can get to stock android lollipop with the note 4 specific features. I understand roms are either based on stock android or touchwiz framework, and you have to pick one or the other, but I'm really torn, I have flashed 5.1 on both my S3 and S4 and I absolutely love it, I'm still waiting for the lollipop update from telstra for my stock note 4, but I think when it finally comes around I'm going to be disappointed that it's more touchwiz than lollipop. I guess my question is like I said before, how close can you get to stock lollipop but retain s pen, multi window, etc? Would it be possible to start out with a TW base and swap out all of the UI and apps for stock LP ones? I know I'm way oversimplifying it, I just really want the best of both worlds, I don't really want to root my note unless I can get as close as I can to stock lollipop with the note extras.
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If you want to keep eveything, you will have to think about a launcher indeed. Goole Now Launcher will be the closest thing.
Google now launcher: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.launcher
I would say when rooted, flash CM12 official, and use CM SPen addon, in combination with notebuddy for you SPen features. You will only lose the multiwindow (links down below).
Spen Addon: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tushar.cmspen2
Notebuddy: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tushar.spen_helper
CM12 Official: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/orig-development/official-cm12-910f-910g-t3046965
Willem1975 said:
If you want to keep eveything, you will have to think about a launcher indeed. Goole Now Launcher will be the closest thing.
Google now launcher: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.launcher
I would say when rooted, flash CM12 official, and use CM SPen addon, in combination with notebuddy for you SPen features. You will only lose the multiwindow (links down below).
Spen Addon: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tushar.cmspen2
Notebuddy: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tushar.spen_helper
CM12 Official: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/orig-development/official-cm12-910f-910g-t3046965
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yeah but you still lose the epic camera quality.
as much as i dislike touchwiz and like cm12 i keep running on stock rom becouse the camera quality on CM based roms is just to bad.
if only there was a way to get the camera quality on a cyanogenmod rom it would be so awesome i wouldnt even care about the spen anymore

CM ROM + TouchWiz Samsung apps = possible?

As it looks like no Marshmallow 6.0.x ports for Note3 are coming, it's time to move to CM ROMs.
However, I'm a frequent user and actually like many of the Samsung (TouchWiz based) apps:
1. Samsung camera - with HDR that actually works (and does double exposure)
2. S Health, S Note, S Planner, etc.
For me, the CM equivalents are not quite what I'm after (or in some cases do not exist at all).
So, is it possible to install a Cyanogenmod (say CM13) based ROM on Note3 (N9005 hlte) and then somehow install Samsung apps like the above (Samsung camera, S Note, S health, etc) into the ROM and actually have the function properly?
If yes, then what libs/patches/additions are needed?
Or, is the best one can hope for to install some of the TW 5.1.1 ROMs and then add the Samsung TW apps as needed?
No, those apps can't be used outside of touchwiz roms. You should have a look at this thread though http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/touchwiz-6-0-1-mm-successfully-ported-t3336469
@Sjant
Thank you! I will wait for the 6.0.1 Note 5 DarkLord port. :good:

Android 4.4.*

Hi there,
I'am Note 3 n9005 user and I feel that android kitkat is most stable and gives best user experience. My question is where will I find clean stock kitkat ROM.
When I say clean I mean all bloatware apps are gone and Google as well. I know that I can clean ROM with apps such as titanium backup but it never works best.
Current android custom ROM that is on my device is Omega kitkat 4.4.2
Regards,
gnide93
I suggest looking in the development forum. There several ROMs based on tw, cm, and aosp.
I have a Canadian Note 3 and some of the note 5/s6 ports are nice although they are not kk.

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