Moto display and AMOLED - X Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm coming from a '13 Moto X. Moto Display is one of my favorite features. With the play, it looks terrible when the clock comes on, and the whole background is grey.
Is there any way to only show when there is a notification?
Does it fade to black when you pick it up for anyone else? Like the loss of gyroscope means it doesn't know I picked it up to look, and if I'm too slow I can't get it to come back on without using the power button.
This and a couple other things that bother me make me want to go back to my '13.

AaronCompNetSys said:
I'm coming from a '13 Moto X. Moto Display is one of my favorite features. With the play, it looks terrible when the clock comes on, and the whole background is grey.
Is there any way to only show when there is a notification?
Does it fade to black when you pick it up for anyone else? Like the loss of gyroscope means it doesn't know I picked it up to look, and if I'm too slow I can't get it to come back on without using the power button.
This and a couple other things that bother me make me want to go back to my '13.
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1. Your Moto X used AMOLED screen. X Play, X Pure use IPS LCD. With LCD whole screen lights up, AMOLED only lights up pixels accordingly. The clock is the main interface for Moto Display, I would say it is not possible to adjust it to show only when getting notifications. You'll probably could turn off Moto Display and use an app called AcDisplay instead.
2. On Lollipop the timeout is too short and I always missed to touch it and ended up using the power button. With MM the timeout has been increased probably an extra second, it is better now.

pijes said:
1. Your Moto X used AMOLED screen. X Play, X Pure use IPS LCD. With LCD whole screen lights up, AMOLED only lights up pixels accordingly. The clock is the main interface for Moto Display, I would say it is not possible to adjust it to show only when getting notifications. You'll probably could turn off Moto Display and use an app called AcDisplay instead.
2. On Lollipop the timeout is too short and I always missed to touch it and ended up using the power button. With MM the timeout has been increased probably an extra second, it is better now.
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Thanks. I know its IPS and I personally think it looks terrible with Active display.
I still think the time out is to short, and it doesn't seem to ever know that its actually in my hand. I'm going back to my 2013 model.

AaronCompNetSys said:
Thanks. I know its IPS and I personally think it looks terrible with Active display.
I still think the time out is to short, and it doesn't seem to ever know that its actually in my hand. I'm going back to my 2013 model.
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Good for you.
Yes it looks bad though i don't use it.
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Turbo issues problems complaints

Figured I would start a thread so we can share any issues we might have with the Turbo. Any defects or software issues etc etc... If your having a problem - post it!
Thanks guys!
Right off the bat I've noticed that my wifi reception is weaker than with my G2...
Yeah the WiFi reception on the Kevlar version is quite poor. Need to use it longer to see if this is a deal breaker.
I, too, have the kevlar version.
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lash150;56394920 said:
I, too, have the kevlar version.
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One of the most brilliant apps ever made is Moto Assist, particularly the "Driving" portion. You can talk or text back and forth without your phone ever leaving your pocket... all by voice. Very safe, both eyes on the road, both hands on the steering wheel.
I was in the Verizon store today looking at the Turbo and couldn't find Moto Assist preloaded on the phone. And furthermore, when I went to the Google Playstore to download it it wasn't available. Can anyone here confirm that Moto Assist IS NOT available on the Turbo?
James for Today said:
One of the most brilliant apps ever made is Moto Assist, particularly the "Driving" portion. You can talk or text back and forth without your phone ever leaving your pocket... all by voice. Very safe, both eyes on the road, both hands on the steering wheel.
I was in the Verizon store today looking at the Turbo and couldn't find Moto Assist preloaded on the phone. And furthermore, when I went to the Google Playstore to download it it wasn't available. Can anyone here confirm that Moto Assist IS NOT available on the Turbo?
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It's under Settings > Moto
geoff5093 said:
It's under Settings > Moto
Whew! Thanks Geoff. Now I can buy one.
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I get my Turbo tomorrow but I played with it in the store today and noticed the 32GB ballistic was extremely touchy. I could barely scroll without launching an app or setting. They also had the red and black kevlars. Those 2 didn't have the same issue. I don't know if it was just me or what.
Anybody having extremely oversensitive screens issues?
Just got my Droid Turbo Ballistic Nylon today
I have not had any problems with scrolling sensitivity. Its been working great as far as that goes. I have used about 20% battery in 7 hours since it.
Only issue I have had with it is once when making a call it showed 1x when it should have been 4g in the city I was in and the person on the other end did not sound as loud and clear.
It did switch to 4g after I hung up. I cant wait till Lollipop comes out and hopefully will fix KitKat issues.
So far I really like the phone.
My ballistics screen seems to work better than my previous s5.no over sensitivity here.
My one issue is it seems like the display is always flashing the time. While I like that feature, seems like a battery killer always having the time flashed.
Having lagging issues with the front camera. Worked fine when I got it, now a few hours later it lags like hell.
Edit: Works fine now, hopefully it doesn't screw up again
Apparently no data and voice simultaneously. Didn't know but I'm OK. WiFi and voice fine. Love this phone.
Not a complaint but being mindful of large battery, i plugged in phone at 17% at 8:40. 10:27 and now at 96%. Im coming from LG G2 which is one of the quickest charging phones ive owned
Having previously owned a Droid Maxx thought slight heating would be an issue but it hasnt thus far which pleases me.
Great phone!
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Comparing my Droid Maxx and Droid turbo, the Maxx is a huge winner in terms max brightness, min brightness, and ability to consistently illuminate the entire display. My maxx display color temp is warm; Turbo color temp is cool.
@ 100% brightness & a white jpg:
Turbo 420lumens-->517 lumens 23% variation darkest at the top to brightest at the bottom
Maxx 585lumens-->597 lumens 2% variation
*note: this was done with the identical Droid Maxx Red Pepper (ebay) tempered glass screen protector on each unit, so a small % of light was lost due to this but the % is consistent across all tests.
@0% brightness & a white jpg:
Turbo: 22-26 lumens
Maxx: 15-17 lumens
So it has the overly warm color temperature that some poor amoleds have? I can't stand the yellowish whites and was worried this phone would have that...
Very low volume on speaker and when making calls
slide83 said:
So it has the overly warm color temperature that some poor amoleds have? I can't stand the yellowish whites and was worried this phone would have that...
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It is warm but not overly. IMHO a Sammy phone is overly cool/blue.
nervana1 said:
Very low volume on speaker and when making calls
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I agree - coming from a Samsung this speaker is quiet!
pwhitersxs said:
My ballistics screen seems to work better than my previous s5.no over sensitivity here.
My one issue is it seems like the display is always flashing the time. While I like that feature, seems like a battery killer always having the time flashed.
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That's something that I have a question about as well. I think it has to do with the Motion because if you wave your hand over the screen, it will turn on as it's supposed to. But it also flashes on when the phone moves a bit. I'm considering turning this option off.
chipsa964 said:
That's something that I have a question about as well. I think it has to do with the Motion because if you wave your hand over the screen, it will turn on as it's supposed to. But it also flashes on when the phone moves a bit. I'm considering turning this option off.
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Unfortunately, I have the same issue with the flashing. It happens continuously, all night long with the phone on the nightstand or sitting on a desk not in use. Seems like a bug.
slide83 said:
So it has the overly warm color temperature that some poor amoleds have? I can't stand the yellowish whites and was worried this phone would have that...
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It is slightly warm. It's noticeable coming from the G3

[MotoX] [2014] Purple Display at Low Brightness [Lollipop] [Amoled]

Okay so I bought a new Moto X (2014) last week In India. Everything about the phone is great. It was already on lollipop. But when I decrease the brightness to below 30-40% the display gradually becomes more and more purple. And with Adaptive Brightness on and in a dark room, it's so purple that the green and yellow shades appear grey or black. I know amoled panels have this problem at very low brightness and apparently many Nexys 6 users are also facing it. However I didn't see many complaints here in the Moto X forum.
So if you have this problem please vote in the poll above. Then I can ask them for a replacement. Thank you.
I'd later add some photos of the screen.
P.S. If you are experiencing this, please add some photos so that people can compare it with their displays.
ok i have this problem too, but when I'm in the bed and reading random news this purple display isn't disturbing me. i can feel it relax more my eyes. so i can say i take advantage from a bug
I don't think this is a bug, way easier on the eyes in the dark, perhaps some kind of a feature on AMOLED and Lollipop. The Nexus 6 has it, too, i think.
I don't know if anyone else noticed that in direct sun light, the screen goes extra bright - like indoor bright + boost?
This is not a feature. It's an issue with amoled displays. That's why Samsung limits the lowest brightness to a higher level. While Moto X seems to go way down. I just want to know if everyone's having this. Then it's okay. But if it's not everyone then there're some good amoled panels out there and we are getting the bad ones.
Yup, keep noticing this before the screen goes completely off.
It's not a "bug" with AMOLED displays, it's inherent to the way the displays work. Red LEDs use much less power than other colors so when the brightness is down low the displays looks like it has a slightly red tint to it. While Samsung does keep their best displays for themselves the lack of a red tint is not due to that but is instead due to not letting the brightness go as low on their displays.
raptir said:
It's not a "bug" with AMOLED displays, it's inherent to the way the displays work. Red LEDs use much less power than other colors so when the brightness is down low the displays looks like it has a slightly red tint to it. While Samsung does keep their best displays for themselves the lack of a red tint is not due to that but is instead due to not letting the brightness go as low on their displays.
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That's what I meant. Not quite the best choice of word, I guess. But if that was the case, everyone should have had the pink tint at low brightness. Do you mean the ones who are not getting it are either lying or have Moto X's with LCD panels?
CosmoDroid said:
That's what I meant. Not quite the best choice of word, I guess. But if that was the case, everyone should have had the pink tint at low brightness. Do you mean the ones who are not getting it are either lying or have Moto X's with LCD panels?
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Well, only 2 out of 11 people have reported no color distortion. And remember that while you're asking "Is there a purple tint?" they're answering the question "Have you noticed a purple tint?"
What I've noticed is that when Adaptive Brightness is on, the display gets super dark and causes the purple tint. When I turn Adaptive Brightness off in a dark room, it actually completely loses the purple tint, and compared to my Galaxy Tab S 8.4 at lowest brightness, the screen is brighter than the Tab S. So I guess Motorola hasn't caught up with Samsung's display technology since my Tab S can actually get dimmer without such a dramatic color distortion - for my Moto X to get to a brightness level that dim, I need to turn on Adaptive Brightness (thus with the purple tint).
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I wouldn't say it gets a Purple tint but rather a reddish one with adaptive light.
And I LOVE it. This way I don't have to install Lumen.CF or any other stuff. Way easier on the eyes at night and it gets reeeeeeaally dark. Just perfect!
I also love that it naturally has a lower white temperature point than other lcd/phones screens. Warmer white is cozy white.
7 votes for without purple/red tint.
People who are not seeing the tint, can you please upload a side by side photo of "your phone at lowest brightness with the adjustment bar visible" and "a white paper".
CosmoDroid said:
7 votes for without purple/red tint.
People who are not seeing the tint, can you please upload a side by side photo of "your phone at lowest brightness with the adjustment bar visible" and "a white paper".
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I voted for no color distortion as my display is very very good. I can tell you there is certainly a variation in displays. A few months back someone posted about being able to see color banding and such. Those of us with really good displays do not see that. I was going to order a Pure edition to replace my unlocked XT1097 but the display is so good on it I decided not to, I doubt another one will be as good. I had 5 different Moto X 2013 models and the displays varied on each of them as well. I kept the best one and my 2014 model is still quite a bit better then the best 2013 I had.
Steve-x said:
I voted for no color distortion as my display is very very good. I can tell you there is certainly a variation in displays. A few months back someone posted about being able to see color banding and such. Those of us with really good displays do not see that. I was going to order a Pure edition to replace my unlocked XT1097 but the display is so good on it I decided not to, I doubt another one will be as good. I had 5 different Moto X 2013 models and the displays varied on each of them as well. I kept the best one and my 2014 model is still quite a bit better then the best 2013 I had.
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The rest of the phone in my case feels pretty solid and well built. Also I'm getting 47k+ scores on Antutu. Hence I am having second thoughts about getting it replaced.
My PE doesn't turn purple and has better whites than my AT&T branded one. The screen on that one is awful to me but I also use a G2, iPhone 6, '13 N7, no one notices but me.
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After three replacements, I finally got a decent one. :laugh:
I'm pretty sure this is just a feature of the moto x2 go to Settings/Display and turn off adaptive brightness, you will see that it changes to normal
born1690 said:
I'm pretty sure this is just a feature of the moto x2 go to Settings/Display and turn off adaptive brightness, you will see that it changes to normal
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Indeed, when adaptative brightness is turned off, purple tint will not occur. However, I am not sure this is a "feature". It actually looks more like a poor implementation of auto brightness.
CosmoDroid said:
Okay so I bought a new Moto X (2014) last week In India.
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I use the CF Lumen app to turn down the red and green just a tad in the master mode. That makes my screen less pinkish.
I had the purple display issue in 5.0. Now I upgraded to 5.1 and the issue is gone. Colors are well balanced down to minimum available brightness.
rwallach said:
I had the purple display issue in 5.0. Now I upgraded to 5.1 and the issue is gone. Colors are well balanced down to minimum available brightness.
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Running 5.0 having the same issue waiting for the update. Will report back thanks for this info I thought it's a amlod display issue, new to this display past few years was on lcd panel device's just got this device more than a week only now. But this is a great news. Thanks.

Regarding LED and ambient display

Question 1)
Can I use both? Will ambient display show messages... Then when screen closes, the led kicks in?
Or would screen light up and led at same time
Question 2)
I use AC display... Which is sort of ambient display(never owned a moto or nexus 6).
Is ambient display basically the same thing? Meaning I won't need that
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Bigal77 said:
Question 1)
Can I use both? Will ambient display show messages... Then when screen closes, the led kicks in?
Or would screen light up and led at same time
Question 2)
I use AC display... Which is sort of ambient display(never owned a moto or nexus 6).
Is ambient display basically the same thing? Meaning I won't need that
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I have the Nexus 6 and when I get a message the ambient kicks in as well as the LED. . I am rooted to get light flow to work,but I imagine the 6P will be the same.
I had the original Moto X, and the ambient display worked just fine for me. It's a lot better than an LED, because it's bigger (therefore lighter) and you can see exactly what it is. And, as a bonus, you can check the time by simply picking the phone up (it doesn't turn on randomly).
Bigal77 said:
Question 1)
Can I use both? Will ambient display show messages... Then when screen closes, the led kicks in?
Or would screen light up and led at same time
Question 2)
I use AC display... Which is sort of ambient display(never owned a moto or nexus 6).
Is ambient display basically the same thing? Meaning I won't need that
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1. Yes, you will be able to use both without any issues. Unlike the Nexus 6 one, this is a fully working RBG Light.
2. It is pretty much the same thing, yes. But I think AC Display is designed to look more like the Moto X Active Display thing. They do the same thing though.

Bought used X Force and have some questions

Hi everybody. Yesterday I bought a used Moto X Force and have some concerns about it. (Yes, noticed them before paying, but the price was appealing )
First of all, I think there is a missing top screen layer (or some kind of a factory screen protector) because there is a hole where the front flash is sitting. Can you confirm that it must be absolutely flat screen there? And if yes, can you recommend some nice thin screen protector (I am in Europe and will not have the patience to wait for it to come from China...)
The second concern for now is the screen colours. I have Moto X Play and the screen is much more bright than that on Moto X Force. When in Settings menu, the basic colour on Play is much more bright. Same is when I look same picture on the two devices. That is very, very strange for me. Plus, there is no COLOR MODE menu in Display Settings, that I have on X Play. Any thoughts about this difference in display performance?
Third - WiFi make some battery drain - it is on top of the list with 10% for the night. On X Play it even is not on the list (same settings).
Well that is what I have found for now. Will be glad to see your opinions here.
I confirm you that the screen should completely flat. If the last layer of the screen is missing you can buy a new one directly from Motorola.fr, .uk or .de (about 30€)
Screens colors of the moto x are not correctly calibrated, it's a known issue when compared to the moto x play/style
Wi-Fi drain is a also known bug of Android 6, battery settings shows it drains a lot but in reality it's the contrary, you can install app like BetterBatteryStats to confirm it
Send it back. You are missing a screen layer!!
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Droid Turbo Stolen (More Info Inside)

So basically, I was in Israel for a month, and of course I had my Turbo with me, along with an Israeli SIM card. To avoid repeating myself, I'll refer you to the post I made in a local Facebook group. Unfortunately, this was actually the first time I brought anything other than a key to the beach with me (1/30 days), and whether it's a coincidence that I was robbed that day, or the fact that the culprits watched me stash it, I'll never know.
Unless the police recover my Turbo, this is goodbye to the subforum. (I just ordered a Nexus 6P)
I appreciate all the work that certain users have put in to make our experience the best possible.
Side note: I actually had multiple completely random people give me money after I asked directions to the police station on the street, so I only have the best to say about Israelis in general. Also, if you think you can help me find the phone, let me know.
maxtheax said:
Also, if you think you can help me find the phone, let me know.
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Android Device Manager (part of google play) lets you locate your phone, lock your phone, ring your phone.
https://accounts.google.com/Service...droid/devicemanager?sid=yfZzzA&u=0&authuser=0
Unless they've already wiped it.
OK, just read your Facebook post. You already know that. In fact, sounds like you have the same type app I have installed. Good for you. Hope you recover it.
ChazzMatt said:
Android Device Manager (part of google play) lets you locate your phone, lock your phone, ring your phone.
https://accounts.google.com/Service...droid/devicemanager?sid=yfZzzA&u=0&authuser=0
Unless they've already wiped it.
OK, just read your Facebook post. You already know that. In fact, sounds like you have the same type app I have installed. Good for you. Hope you recover it.
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Is there any method or application which we come to know that newly purchased turbo has genuine Led display.
Actually I bought a used Turbo and when I compared it at full brightness with my Maxx and another Turbo I felt that it is more yellowish in comparison to both of these. I I'm suspecious that the genuine Led unit has been replaced.
Nido221 said:
Is there any method or application which we come to know that newly purchased turbo has genuine Led display.
Actually I bought a used Turbo and when I compared it at full brightness with my Maxx and another Turbo I felt that it is more yellowish in comparison to both of these. I I'm suspecious that the genuine Led unit has been replaced.
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When you use the Display Tester app, does it show 1440p? There's not that many 5.2" 1440p AMOLED displays out there, that I'm aware of...
Display Tester
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.displaytester&hl=en
ChazzMatt said:
When you use the Display Tester app, does it show 1440p? There's not that many 5.2" 1440p AMOLED displays out there, that I'm aware of...
Display Tester
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Thanks for your reply however I used the app and found the following parameters(screen shot).
Nido221 said:
Thanks for your reply however I used the app and found the following parameters(screen shot).
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Are you running a custom ROM, even ComputerFreak's perhaps?
Says you have "soft keys" And I don't. Also your measurements are slightly different.
ChazzMatt said:
Are you running a custom ROM, even ComputerFreak's perhaps?
Says you have "soft keys" And I don't. Also your measurements are slightly different.
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No sir, I'm at stock 5.1.
Actually after applying glass protector for led I felt it sometimes less sensitive the Touch Keys of my Turbo(and this makes me more suspecious about Led replacement).
So I I'm using "Handy Soft Keys" software instead of hardware touch keys.
Which measurements are different and what do you guess from these differed measurements ???

			
				
ChazzMatt said:
Are you running a custom ROM, even ComputerFreak's perhaps?
Says you have "soft keys" And I don't. Also your measurements are slightly different.
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I made the same comparison with my friends 's Moto x2
And the result was same. Turbo display is more in yellow colour. It seems that the genuine Led had been replaced with LCD. Is it possible although the pixel density shows more than 565?? Also when I used the "Branding, contrast, saturation test" I noticed that my Maxx has background textured type display whereas Turbo has plain display.
Nido221 said:
Is it possible although the pixel density shows more than 565??
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Stock PPI is 565. That can't change. It's hardware related.
Stock DPI is 640. That's software related and can be changed. Some custom ROMs like Resurrection Remix go smaller, to fit more stuff onto the screen.
Here's mine:
Since I don't have soft keys, only the capacitive keys, my screen size doesn't show full 5.2" since some of the screen is being used for the keys and not for display. At least that's my reasoning.
It's possible that the yellow tinted unit or the other unit has experienced some type of burn in.
Latiken said:
It's possible that the yellow tinted unit or the other unit has experienced some type of burn in.
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What type of burn?
Is it possible that an led display is burnt out and it still give display?
u say u think it has been replaced with an lcd instead of an amoled (highly unlikely). however that is the easiest thing to check. go to a dark room, make a wave gesture over the phone to bring up active display and check to see if only time info lights up and the rest is completely black, or if the black emits light (i.e it is grayish). if it is completely black it's an amoled if not it is an lcd. make sure the room is dark (your bedroon at night for example with shutters off etc). keep in mind that no two screens are alike. maybe it is the original but a different batch. i had that on a moto x where the screen was yellow tinted (brand new sealed from store), got it replaced and the next one was much better. also dont expect to ever see true white on an amoled screen (take ur maxx beside a good lcd and compare whites and you will understand what i am talking about)
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u say u think it has been replaced with an lcd instead of an amoled (highly unlikely). however that is the easiest thing to check. go to a dark room, make a wave gesture over the phone to bring up active display and check to see if only time info lights up and the rest is completely black, or if the black emits light (i.e it is grayish). if it is completely black it's an amoled if not it is an lcd. make sure the room is dark (your bedroon at night for example with shutters off etc). keep in mind that no two screens are alike. maybe it is the original but a different batch. i had that on a moto x where the screen was yellow tinted (brand new sealed from store), got it replaced and the next one was much better. also dont expect to ever see true white on an amoled screen (take ur maxx beside a good lcd and compare whites and you will understand what i am talking about)
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First of all thank you for your help.
Now at first, I checked in the dark room and found that it is an LED not the LCD.
Second.... Yes it is possible that it may be from different badge but it is also possible that this badge belongs to low quality display as none of the three mobiles(Moto x2,Droid Maxx& another Turbo)resembles to this display and it is prominently visible when compared to those.
Third... I know that Motorola's display is a little bit yellowish green when compared to Samsung etc.
Note: I also noted that it's viewing angles are less than another Turbo...

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