Hi everybody. Yesterday I bought a used Moto X Force and have some concerns about it. (Yes, noticed them before paying, but the price was appealing )
First of all, I think there is a missing top screen layer (or some kind of a factory screen protector) because there is a hole where the front flash is sitting. Can you confirm that it must be absolutely flat screen there? And if yes, can you recommend some nice thin screen protector (I am in Europe and will not have the patience to wait for it to come from China...)
The second concern for now is the screen colours. I have Moto X Play and the screen is much more bright than that on Moto X Force. When in Settings menu, the basic colour on Play is much more bright. Same is when I look same picture on the two devices. That is very, very strange for me. Plus, there is no COLOR MODE menu in Display Settings, that I have on X Play. Any thoughts about this difference in display performance?
Third - WiFi make some battery drain - it is on top of the list with 10% for the night. On X Play it even is not on the list (same settings).
Well that is what I have found for now. Will be glad to see your opinions here.
I confirm you that the screen should completely flat. If the last layer of the screen is missing you can buy a new one directly from Motorola.fr, .uk or .de (about 30€)
Screens colors of the moto x are not correctly calibrated, it's a known issue when compared to the moto x play/style
Wi-Fi drain is a also known bug of Android 6, battery settings shows it drains a lot but in reality it's the contrary, you can install app like BetterBatteryStats to confirm it
Send it back. You are missing a screen layer!!
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Hey all I have owned a Moto X (republic wireless) for almost a year now. Just a great phone, can't say enough about it. But it does have a few niggling quirks that i'm wondering if the Z1c might solve. Plus I have to switch phones now since my sprint coverage is horrible since I moved.
So this is mainly a shout out to anyone who has owned or had the chance to test the two phones. My first issue with the Moto X is its camera, its okish but only that. I would love to get something that could consistently take good shots(a little tweaking is ok). The Moto X still has very extreme color shift from shot to shot even after its camera app updates. I took a couple pics of a sea craft the other day and the colors shifted from the smiley face yellow you see here to a very pale yellow in just a few seconds. Just annoying. So thoughts on the two cameras?
performance wise it does not really matter to me. The Z1c of course has the higher end tech, but both seem very smooth and have solid battery life. screen size is close enough and I prefer smaller to larger at this point. I don't game, so the GPU is not a big deal.
I do like having the SD card slot in the Z1c although I still have not put over 10 GB on my Moto X, so its not a huge deal. Still if the camera on the Z1c was adequate and could replace my PS that could change fast.
The Moto X(XT1053) does have all of Tmobile/AT&T bands covered while the Z1c is missing a major AT&T LTE (700) band. Thats a minor issue since I will be using the phone on Tmobile, or AT&T MVNOs which typically only have access to HSDPA+ anyways.
Price is very close on the two right now at about $400 each. The Moto X does seem to go on sale a lot though for around $300-$350.
So any thoughts/recommendations on the two phones? Anything I should know about the Z1c as far as issues/complaints? I have read about the flash bleed issue, but I don't mind replacing the back with glass, even though I would end up putting a carbon fiber skin case on it anyways.
1. If i had Moto X it would be long dead cause of water damage.
2. Z1C camera is actually really good if you figure out manual mode (see downsides) and with 64gig sd card you don't have to worry running out of space doing that awesome video.
3. I've never seen a phone with so good battery life as Z1C - my average is 3 days standby with 5 and ½ hours screen on. It actually feels good to see everybodys battery dead at the end of day but i still have over 65% left
4. Here in Estonia we have fairly good LTE coverage but i tend not to use it cause it drains way faster than 3G+ which is fast enought.
Downsides of Z1C.
You have to replace plastic back to fix flash bleed (only issue when doing photos in dark) and replace horrible ASF on front with tempered glass = no warranty
You need to find best Manual camera settings cause superior auto sometimes fails altho it does excellent photos too.
I don't have other issues honestly, i would get the Compact, well i did and it's the first phone ever i am totally satisfied with.
This summer Z3 Compact will be launched with Z2 feathures. Keep that in mind.
I've owned galaxy s4,s2, htc one and some weird LG phone that had buttons on the back.
I currently own both the Moto X on republic wireless and an unlocked Z1C. I agree with the above points about the photos and the battery life blows the Moto X out of the water. The only thing i miss from the moto x is the active display, i find myself picking up the Z1C without pushing the power button to see the time.
Figured I would start a thread so we can share any issues we might have with the Turbo. Any defects or software issues etc etc... If your having a problem - post it!
Thanks guys!
Right off the bat I've noticed that my wifi reception is weaker than with my G2...
Yeah the WiFi reception on the Kevlar version is quite poor. Need to use it longer to see if this is a deal breaker.
I, too, have the kevlar version.
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lash150;56394920 said:
I, too, have the kevlar version.
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One of the most brilliant apps ever made is Moto Assist, particularly the "Driving" portion. You can talk or text back and forth without your phone ever leaving your pocket... all by voice. Very safe, both eyes on the road, both hands on the steering wheel.
I was in the Verizon store today looking at the Turbo and couldn't find Moto Assist preloaded on the phone. And furthermore, when I went to the Google Playstore to download it it wasn't available. Can anyone here confirm that Moto Assist IS NOT available on the Turbo?
James for Today said:
One of the most brilliant apps ever made is Moto Assist, particularly the "Driving" portion. You can talk or text back and forth without your phone ever leaving your pocket... all by voice. Very safe, both eyes on the road, both hands on the steering wheel.
I was in the Verizon store today looking at the Turbo and couldn't find Moto Assist preloaded on the phone. And furthermore, when I went to the Google Playstore to download it it wasn't available. Can anyone here confirm that Moto Assist IS NOT available on the Turbo?
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It's under Settings > Moto
geoff5093 said:
It's under Settings > Moto
Whew! Thanks Geoff. Now I can buy one.
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I get my Turbo tomorrow but I played with it in the store today and noticed the 32GB ballistic was extremely touchy. I could barely scroll without launching an app or setting. They also had the red and black kevlars. Those 2 didn't have the same issue. I don't know if it was just me or what.
Anybody having extremely oversensitive screens issues?
Just got my Droid Turbo Ballistic Nylon today
I have not had any problems with scrolling sensitivity. Its been working great as far as that goes. I have used about 20% battery in 7 hours since it.
Only issue I have had with it is once when making a call it showed 1x when it should have been 4g in the city I was in and the person on the other end did not sound as loud and clear.
It did switch to 4g after I hung up. I cant wait till Lollipop comes out and hopefully will fix KitKat issues.
So far I really like the phone.
My ballistics screen seems to work better than my previous s5.no over sensitivity here.
My one issue is it seems like the display is always flashing the time. While I like that feature, seems like a battery killer always having the time flashed.
Having lagging issues with the front camera. Worked fine when I got it, now a few hours later it lags like hell.
Edit: Works fine now, hopefully it doesn't screw up again
Apparently no data and voice simultaneously. Didn't know but I'm OK. WiFi and voice fine. Love this phone.
Not a complaint but being mindful of large battery, i plugged in phone at 17% at 8:40. 10:27 and now at 96%. Im coming from LG G2 which is one of the quickest charging phones ive owned
Having previously owned a Droid Maxx thought slight heating would be an issue but it hasnt thus far which pleases me.
Great phone!
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Comparing my Droid Maxx and Droid turbo, the Maxx is a huge winner in terms max brightness, min brightness, and ability to consistently illuminate the entire display. My maxx display color temp is warm; Turbo color temp is cool.
@ 100% brightness & a white jpg:
Turbo 420lumens-->517 lumens 23% variation darkest at the top to brightest at the bottom
Maxx 585lumens-->597 lumens 2% variation
*note: this was done with the identical Droid Maxx Red Pepper (ebay) tempered glass screen protector on each unit, so a small % of light was lost due to this but the % is consistent across all tests.
@0% brightness & a white jpg:
Turbo: 22-26 lumens
Maxx: 15-17 lumens
So it has the overly warm color temperature that some poor amoleds have? I can't stand the yellowish whites and was worried this phone would have that...
Very low volume on speaker and when making calls
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So it has the overly warm color temperature that some poor amoleds have? I can't stand the yellowish whites and was worried this phone would have that...
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It is warm but not overly. IMHO a Sammy phone is overly cool/blue.
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Very low volume on speaker and when making calls
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I agree - coming from a Samsung this speaker is quiet!
pwhitersxs said:
My ballistics screen seems to work better than my previous s5.no over sensitivity here.
My one issue is it seems like the display is always flashing the time. While I like that feature, seems like a battery killer always having the time flashed.
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That's something that I have a question about as well. I think it has to do with the Motion because if you wave your hand over the screen, it will turn on as it's supposed to. But it also flashes on when the phone moves a bit. I'm considering turning this option off.
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That's something that I have a question about as well. I think it has to do with the Motion because if you wave your hand over the screen, it will turn on as it's supposed to. But it also flashes on when the phone moves a bit. I'm considering turning this option off.
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Unfortunately, I have the same issue with the flashing. It happens continuously, all night long with the phone on the nightstand or sitting on a desk not in use. Seems like a bug.
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So it has the overly warm color temperature that some poor amoleds have? I can't stand the yellowish whites and was worried this phone would have that...
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It is slightly warm. It's noticeable coming from the G3
I'm coming from a '13 Moto X. Moto Display is one of my favorite features. With the play, it looks terrible when the clock comes on, and the whole background is grey.
Is there any way to only show when there is a notification?
Does it fade to black when you pick it up for anyone else? Like the loss of gyroscope means it doesn't know I picked it up to look, and if I'm too slow I can't get it to come back on without using the power button.
This and a couple other things that bother me make me want to go back to my '13.
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I'm coming from a '13 Moto X. Moto Display is one of my favorite features. With the play, it looks terrible when the clock comes on, and the whole background is grey.
Is there any way to only show when there is a notification?
Does it fade to black when you pick it up for anyone else? Like the loss of gyroscope means it doesn't know I picked it up to look, and if I'm too slow I can't get it to come back on without using the power button.
This and a couple other things that bother me make me want to go back to my '13.
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1. Your Moto X used AMOLED screen. X Play, X Pure use IPS LCD. With LCD whole screen lights up, AMOLED only lights up pixels accordingly. The clock is the main interface for Moto Display, I would say it is not possible to adjust it to show only when getting notifications. You'll probably could turn off Moto Display and use an app called AcDisplay instead.
2. On Lollipop the timeout is too short and I always missed to touch it and ended up using the power button. With MM the timeout has been increased probably an extra second, it is better now.
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1. Your Moto X used AMOLED screen. X Play, X Pure use IPS LCD. With LCD whole screen lights up, AMOLED only lights up pixels accordingly. The clock is the main interface for Moto Display, I would say it is not possible to adjust it to show only when getting notifications. You'll probably could turn off Moto Display and use an app called AcDisplay instead.
2. On Lollipop the timeout is too short and I always missed to touch it and ended up using the power button. With MM the timeout has been increased probably an extra second, it is better now.
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Thanks. I know its IPS and I personally think it looks terrible with Active display.
I still think the time out is to short, and it doesn't seem to ever know that its actually in my hand. I'm going back to my 2013 model.
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Thanks. I know its IPS and I personally think it looks terrible with Active display.
I still think the time out is to short, and it doesn't seem to ever know that its actually in my hand. I'm going back to my 2013 model.
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Good for you.
Yes it looks bad though i don't use it.
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There horizontal lines on moto g5 plus display which can be seen in at perticular angle in direct sun light or artificial lighting conditon.
Some users have this issue and some not.
So is this normal or should i replace my phone.
And what is the reason behind this?
PLEASE HELP!!!!
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There horizontal lines on moto g5 plus display which can be seen in at perticular angle in direct sun light or artificial lighting conditon.
Some users have this issue and some not.
So is this normal or should i replace my phone.
And what is the reason behind this?
PLEASE HELP!!!!
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This is not an issue bud. Your screen isn't defective at all. This is the limitation of ips panel. Some/very few users who aren't able to notice(including me) might have not good eyes like ur's
So don't panic. Just relax and enjoy this device
Dush4711 said:
There horizontal lines on moto g5 plus display which can be seen in at perticular angle in direct sun light or artificial lighting conditon.
Some users have this issue and some not.
So is this normal or should i replace my phone.
And what is the reason behind this?
PLEASE HELP!!!!
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It's is not a issue with the device.It is some kind of sensors for Moto display.Turn Moto display off and it vanishes.This issue has been raised in one of the forums in lenovo , to which they replied that it is a sensor and not a display defect.So chill!
The horizontal lines are available in each and every device. The one who tells that they haven't noticed it, they might have not seen it properly. To see it you have to revise your geometry and have to see it at different angle under sunlight with hawk eyes.
I have noticed this on my G5 plus and it is normal (as in it doesn't hamper the functionality or doesn't imply malfunction).
See the photo
They are the touch sensor patterns. However, I also came across another G5 plus(one of my friend's) which has a different patterns (grids instead of horizontal lines) and they are barely visible even in bright outdoors.
The kind of sensor pattern you're talking about(only horizontal lines) are however, have more visibility, which kind of disappointing, and are hard to be unnoticed once you see them . So, there are two types of displays on G5 plus, and those who have the grid sensor patterns are the lucky few.
Thank you all for your kind reply.
I have the same issue... I dont like it but i want to keep the phone... Don't know if i want to return it beacause of this.
I was concerned about the horizontal faint white lines in my display. Thanks @williamj949 for explaining it's part of Moto Display. Confirmed that they go away if you turn it off. Good to know the display isn't faulty.
It's the digitizer's (touch sensing layer beneath the glass) grid.
Actually its been awhile since I've seen it on a phone (last one I saw was on Nexus 5s), guessing it's just the side effect of buying a medium-tier priced phone.
I'm. totally cool with it though, you don't notice it after a while.
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It's is not a issue with the device.It is some kind of sensors for Moto display.Turn Moto display off and it vanishes.This issue has been raised in one of the forums in lenovo , to which they replied that it is a sensor and not a display defect.So chill!
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It has nothing to do with Moto display, it will still be visible as it's a hardware thing
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rayzen6 said:
This is not an issue bud. Your screen isn't defective at all. This is the limitation of ips panel. Some/very few users who aren't able to notice(including me) might have not good eyes like ur's
So don't panic. Just relax and enjoy this device
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I'm used to oled panel and now I'm using g5 plus. I can see the lines and now it's really bugging me.
Hello guys.
My parents gifted me a brand new Moto G5 Plus (2GB RAM/Dual sim) bought from Chile.
My only two android phones had software issues (I got them for free so no complaints) so therebefore I never care so much about them. Both were small and resistants (S3 Mini and Moto G LTE - xt1040).
The S3 Mini ended with the camera blurred because got stripped with the use. My Moto G works like a charm, many strips on the screen but nothing important, the phone fallen a lot times but never broke .
Now this is a new level for me, giant screen. It scares me, any care you recommend me? I don't want to use with screen protectors or anything, I really hate them.
Also, I read that the screen has gorilla glass, whats about the back camera? Flash and the whole circle has any protection or should I take so much care?
Anyway the phone is amazing but I really want lineage os, I hope we get it soon!.
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Which launcher comes with the phone? I saw on internet that has pixel launcher but its a lot different to the pixel launcher that comes with google pixel phone (I have the same on my Moto G and it isn't transparent when you search all apps)
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Is there anything to change about camera settings? My photos doesn't look good, colors are darkness and the definition looks very bad, even doing focus. I didn't tried outside so maybe is the light inside my home.
The only thing I changed is the aspect ratio. I am using 4:3 because of 12 MP, not sure if I should use it or change again to 16:9 (9.1MP).
I attached a photo.
fygonzalo said:
Hello guys.
My parents gifted me a brand new Moto G5 Plus (2GB RAM/Dual sim) bought from Chile.
My only two android phones had software issues (I got them for free so no complaints) so therebefore I never care so much about them. Both were small and resistants (S3 Mini and Moto G LTE - xt1040).
The S3 Mini ended with the camera blurred because got stripped with the use. My Moto G works like a charm, many strips on the screen but nothing important, the phone fallen a lot times but never broke .
Now this is a new level for me, giant screen. It scares me, any care you recommend me? I don't want to use with screen protectors or anything, I really hate them.
Also, I read that the screen has gorilla glass, whats about the back camera? Flash and the whole circle has any protection or should I take so much care?
Anyway the phone is amazing but I really want lineage os, I hope we get it soon!.
EDIT:
Which launcher comes with the phone? I saw on internet that has pixel launcher but its a lot different to the pixel launcher that comes with google pixel phone (I have the same on my Moto G and it isn't transparent when you search all apps)
EDIT2:
Is there anything to change about camera settings? My photos doesn't look good, colors are darkness and the definition looks very bad, even doing focus. I didn't tried outside so maybe is the light inside my home.
The only thing I changed is the aspect ratio. I am using 4:3 because of 12 MP, not sure if I should use it or change again to 16:9 (9.1MP).
I attached a photo.
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Take Care of camera bump as it get lot of scratches without bumper case