So....
Why Snapdragon is Better Than Exynos??
And Why Exynos is Better Than Snapdragon??
Ahmedmoataz said:
So....
Why Snapdragon is Better Than Exynos??
And Why Exynos is Better Than Snapdragon??
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Next time use the search function. If you really want to beat a dead horse here is the original thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461792
Short version. As a general rule the Exynos 5 Octa is slightly faster CPU and Snapdragon 800 is slightly faster GPU.
thanks bro
Okay so I am the first person to admit I have not read this whole thread.
However at this point we should all realize that mos bechmarks do not mean ****. We have seen how they can be gamed.
That being said from what I have seen Snapdragon seems to be a hair better in real world usage. More importantly it charges significantly faster.
AMG_Roadster said:
Okay so I am the first person to admit I have not read this whole thread.
However at this point we should all realize that mos bechmarks do not mean ****. We have seen how they can be gamed.
That being said from what I have seen Snapdragon seems to be a hair better in real world usage. More importantly it charges significantly faster.
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I still think it helps show the full potential of the hardware. I know there are issues that Samsung rigged the bench apps to run its products in full juice but isn't that the purpose of running bench tests? To see how much power does you machine have when pushed to the limits?
May not be descriptive of real world use but still an indication of your gadgets raw power.
Not OP, but piggybacking on this thread: how about the driver issue?
I've read somewhere that Samsung is much worse publishing drivers for custom ROMs to use with their Exynos processors than Broadcomm is for Snapdragon. So far I've only ever owned Nexus devices where that isn't a huge problem (unless past Gingerbread N1) and I definitely want to keep fooling around with homebrew stuff. Also want to flash new Android versions as soon as they're being published, not when Samsung releases them. I don't care much for the S-Pen or Touchwiz, but since it looks like there won't be a new Nexus 10 I'm looking for alternatives.
So, for tinkerers: Exynos or Snapdragon?
qrn said:
Not OP, but piggybacking on this thread: how about the driver issue?
I've read somewhere that Samsung is much worse publishing drivers for custom ROMs to use with their Exynos processors than Broadcomm is for Snapdragon. So far I've only ever owned Nexus devices where that isn't a huge problem (unless past Gingerbread N1) and I definitely want to keep fooling around with homebrew stuff. Also want to flash new Android versions as soon as they're being published, not when Samsung releases them. I don't care much for the S-Pen or Touchwiz, but since it looks like there won't be a new Nexus 10 I'm looking for alternatives.
So, for tinkerers: Exynos or Snapdragon?
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Snapdragon... Samsung seem to want to REALLY hold onto the drivers for the exynos.... Makes custom roms a tad hard to make when you're not sure the hardware will actually work...
hello , i'm going to but samsung galaxy note 4 and i want to know which is better version of the amazing note , Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 or
Exynos 5433?
thanks i advance
shehaaaap said:
hello , i'm going to but samsung galaxy note 4 and i want to know which is better version of the amazing note , Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 or
Exynos 5433?
thanks i advance
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Search Bar on your right will do the job, www.google.com, www.youtube.com, cheers:fingers-crossed:
dude , if you can help me then answer , if not then please be silent
Not an easy answer sadly.
If your a rom flasher go with the snapdragon as it seems to be easier to work with in that way and there are more Roms. I guess it's more of a known quantity in the 805 and a good solid common cpu. Likely the most popular cpu is the 805.
Exynos from what I've seen has better benchmark scores (I have C variant and have been close to 60k) better ram performance and 8 core so that can help. Also the Exynos cpu has the possibility to unlock 64bit, far as I know this will never be possible on the sd805.
Exynos also has incoming CM12.1 which should open up the rom gates to all AOSP and help catch up the snapdragon versions in that area.
I'm gonna say go for the Exynos it has a lot of potential and overall performance very solid.
But I'm a bit biased as I own that device.
Hope that helps you bro
shehaaaap said:
hello , i'm going to but samsung galaxy note 4 and i want to know which is better version of the amazing note , Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 or
Exynos 5433?
thanks i advance
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910F , better ROMs, better compatibility and more widely used.
The exynos may have its advantages on paper but in real usage its down to what you can use and how it feels.
If it were me I'd get what I'd already have which is the 910F.
If I were buying a new phone now. It'd probably be the HTC M9.
shehaaaap said:
dude , if you can help me then answer , if not then please be silent
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Sorry but I have to agree, please use the search function and be respectful of other users. There are already multiple threads like this one, tbh do what the above person has suggested and get the M9 so we will have one less arrogant rude person in this section, cheers!
I don't understand why the Galaxy s6 and it's variants can't run CM. I know that it has to do with this type of chipset, but I guess my real question is what makes the CPU
"un-CMable"?
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I don't understand why the Galaxy s6 and it's variants can't run CM. I know that it has to do with this type of chipset, but I guess my real question is what makes the CPU
"un-CMable"?
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note5 has the same chipset as s6/edge/plus, therefore you will "suffer" the same problem with it!
a litte detail:
the "problem" with samsungs exynos chipsets is that they are closed source (linux only forces kernel to be open source, NOT the hardware), therefore it is much more complicated for developers to get AOSP/CM and its derivates to run properly!
just go ahead and enjoy this wonderful phone!
Hi,
as the title says, is it possible to buy the exynos version of galaxy s7 edge, but then change the CPU later to a snapdragon 820?
If it is possible to change the CPU / GPU where would i be able to find it as a sparepart?
Thanks in advance.
Eaglesix said:
Hi,
as the title says, is it possible to buy the exynos version of galaxy s7 edge, but then change the CPU later to a snapdragon 820?
If it is possible to change the CPU / GPU where would i be able to find it as a sparepart?
Thanks in advance.
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Not possible. You'd be better off just buying a Snapdragon variant but I have no idea why you would want to do that when the general consensus is the exynos version is slightly better.
what he said^^
Surely this is not a serious question. You intend to desolder the existing cpu?
sc2ascend said:
Not possible. You'd be better off just buying a Snapdragon variant but I have no idea why you would want to do that when the general consensus is the exynos version is slightly better.
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Have you not been paying attention to benchmarks? The Snapdragon is way better than the exynos...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/03/07/galaxy-s7-performance-problem/#52b44c1d2fdb
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...n-820-vs-Exynos-8890-flavors-compared_id79141
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...ore-powerful-than-iphone-6s---but-not-if-you/
Although, I agree that you shouldn't even consider trying to swap processors. Maybe try to purchase a Snapdragon variant?
Having some experience with PCB and electronics production, no it would not be possible to outright swap the cpu.
But maybe if you are good at tinkering you could buy a motherboard off of a broken device and swap that?
I do not have a lot of experience with electronics modification so i guess my only option is to buy the Snapdragon variant from another country.
In this context does anyone know of any verified phone sellers on the asian market (where the snapdragon variant currently is available) that has a webshop with international delivery?
Also if i buy the phone from asia will i be able to use it with a telephone subscription in Europe or is there some fundamental differences on the phone depending on where you buy it?
g4Nk said:
Have you not been paying attention to benchmarks? The Snapdragon is way better than the exynos...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/03/07/galaxy-s7-performance-problem/#52b44c1d2fdb
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...n-820-vs-Exynos-8890-flavors-compared_id79141
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...ore-powerful-than-iphone-6s---but-not-if-you/
Although, I agree that you shouldn't even consider trying to swap processors. Maybe try to purchase a Snapdragon variant?
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Nope, the only thing sd820 is better than 8890 is GPU. In cpu 8890 kills the sd820 even on battery life.
johanbiff said:
Nope, the only thing sd820 is better than 8890 is GPU. In cpu 8890 kills the sd820 even on battery life.
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Um, the 820 CPU beats the 8890 in single core performance. And battery life with the 820... well, I'll let my screenshots speak for themselves.
g4Nk said:
Have you not been paying attention to benchmarks? The Snapdragon is way better than the exynos...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/03/07/galaxy-s7-performance-problem/#52b44c1d2fdb
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...n-820-vs-Exynos-8890-flavors-compared_id79141
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...ore-powerful-than-iphone-6s---but-not-if-you/
Although, I agree that you shouldn't even consider trying to swap processors. Maybe try to purchase a Snapdragon variant?
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Numbers aren't everything. People with the Snapdragon are having issues playing videos that are 1080p and above. Video stops playing but sound still happens on youtube. Same issue the LG V10 had and another phone.
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Um, the 820 CPU beats the 8890 in single core performance. And battery life with the 820... well, I'll let my screenshots speak for themselves.
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Nope it doesn't. Read Andrei on Reddit. Total score yes, on actual performance per cycle it doesn't. 7h sot over 48h total on my exynos.
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Nope it doesn't. Read Andrei on Reddit. Total score yes, on actual performance per cycle it doesn't. 7h sot over 48h total on my exynos.
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But it does. The only thing it slightly loses in is Integer performance. But it makes up for this in floating point superiority. Don't forget, the exynos in single threaded stuff runs at 2.6ghz, thats about 18% faster than the snapdragons 2.15ghz. If we Normalized the clocks, theres really no question which ones superior in single core performance. As for OPs question, no, unless you are a total bada** it would almost certainly not work. You would likely need to replace the whole board, not just the CPU as it's all one big interconnected system. Especially on the sd820, due to it using the symphony system manager to dynamically offload tasks to the DSP and other blocks to save power and improve performance. On top of all that you would also have weird issues with the kernel being for exynos version for instance and have to get that fixed.
Tldr. Plz don't...
IMHO, The SD 820 beats the 8890 in some areas. However, To me it doesnt really matter which we have, The Device is extremely good with both. Runs a dream. However there is always the issue that development will become slightly frgamented...
We have TWRP for Exynos but not for SD devices. Plus im sure the ROM Will follow soon.
Whats interesting is that the S5 and Note 4 devices internationally came with SD 801 and 805 Respectively.
However after the S6 / Note 5 all Exynos product etc, Sammie decidied to flip that on its head :/ Personally I prefer SD chips. Solely because from previous experience they trashed Exynos and Kirin based ones. However Sammie really upped their game!
fkofilee said:
IMHO, The SD 820 beats the 8890 in some areas. However, To me it doesnt really matter which we have, The Device is extremely good with both. Runs a dream. However there is always the issue that development will become slightly frgamented...
We have TWRP for Exynos but not for SD devices. Plus im sure the ROM Will follow soon.
Whats interesting is that the S5 and Note 4 devices internationally came with SD 801 and 805 Respectively.
However after the S6 / Note 5 all Exynos product etc, Sammie decidied to flip that on its head :/ Personally I prefer SD chips. Solely because from previous experience they trashed Exynos and Kirin based ones. However Sammie really upped their game!
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The reason Samsung didn't use the 810 last year was because it was an inferior SOC. It had a lot of heat issues. Up to that point qcom had been great. Also we have no twrp or kernels yet on SD because Samsung has only released exynos source so far for some reason -_-
consider samsung had a year with the 14nm processor, I would love to get my hand on an exynos processor. I have a feeling Samsung pay extra attention to their own processor than a snapdragon 820. Things like updates may come quicker too.
As Sammies Chip making process has grown (Yes Apple... Im looking at oyu) , its made Sammie a helluva ton'a muneh!
Seriously though, Samsung have done a good job with the last 2 gens of processors. S6 and Note 5 and the S7 8890 are nuts!
As for the sourcecode, well when its created by Samsung etc its not so bad
Back to the OP. No you cannot change the processor. Besides if it goes wrong, Warranty is instantly void
fkofilee said:
IMHO, The SD 820 beats the 8890 in some areas. However, To me it doesnt really matter which we have, The Device is extremely good with both. Runs a dream. However there is always the issue that development will become slightly frgamented...
We have TWRP for Exynos but not for SD devices. Plus im sure the ROM Will follow soon.
Whats interesting is that the S5 and Note 4 devices internationally came with SD 801 and 805 Respectively.
However after the S6 / Note 5 all Exynos product etc, Sammie decidied to flip that on its head :/ Personally I prefer SD chips. Solely because from previous experience they trashed Exynos and Kirin based ones. However Sammie really upped their game!
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It does but there is a diffrence. When the exynos win it does it with almost 40% in single core which IS noticeable ..the sd820 only wins with up to 10% which is not ( talking about single core here). Hopefully anandtech will sink there teeth in to both socs soon and we will get a clear answer. As for boost clocks... the sd820 have a GPU boost which helps it in bursty situations but can't sustain it for long, that's the extra score in 3D for ya. But will see as time goes by..I have a feeling the exynos is the better overall
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Nope it doesn't. Read Andrei on Reddit. Total score yes, on actual performance per cycle it doesn't. 7h sot over 48h total on my exynos.
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I still had almost 20% battery left in those screenshots.
Either way, I don't think you can say the Exynos is superior. It's better at some things, sure, but the 820 also beats the Exynos in several areas. I have used both extensively and in real world usage, you can't tell a difference. Only benchmarks show the difference.
johanbiff said:
It does but there is a diffrence. When the exynos win it does it with almost 40% in single core which IS noticeable ..the sd820 only wins with up to 10% which is not ( talking about single core here). Hopefully anandtech will sink there teeth in to both socs soon and we will get a clear answer. As for boost clocks... the sd820 have a GPU boost which helps it in bursty situations but can't sustain it for long, that's the extra score in 3D for ya. But will see as time goes by..I have a feeling the exynos is the better overall
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The best win the exynos pulls off in single core is in AES with a 57% win over the SD 820. In the same category the 820 wins sha2 with about a 40% win. And the exynos is clocked almost 20% higher... The exynos 7420 Mali GPU also had a burst clock. It ran at 650mhz unless all cores weren't loaded it would boost up to 720mhz for bursty workloads. In floating point the snapdragon pretty much wins everything despite being at a significant clock disadvantage. If we under clocked the exynos to 2.1ghz it wouldn't even be close IMO. In fact the Integer wins may be largely lost when clocks are normalized.
Qwhy don't people to a trans Atlantic phone exchange. I'm sticking with the exception exynos for the battery. Still waiting for a decent screen protector and battery case though.
Hey,
I've been following up with the LineageOS ROM. Just as much as Resurrection Remix. However; using a N4 which is (correct me if I'm wrong.) a buffed S5. The chipsets are different! I know that but the majority of the firmware aside from Note functions. Is it possible for these two devices framware to be vise-versa compatible? As in unzipping a klte ROM or trtle rom, and flashing it? Sure there'd be changes to be made but what kind of would need to?
@ripee, @_mone, @Chainfire.
Sounds stupid but I'm interested.
I think the snapdragon variants of both note 4 and s5 have same processor, i.e SD 805.
The exynos variant of note 4 has Exynos 5433 and that of s5 has 5422.
Irrespective of which processor they have, there is a difference in display. S5 has a full hd 1080p display, whereas note 4 has a quad hd 1440p display.
However, by making some changes in the firmware, the snapdragon variants can share roms.
Reporting Via N910G.
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From what I know, there is a note 4 room ported to the s5, ManuN5pro or something.
yashthemw said:
However, by making some changes in the firmware, the snapdragon variants can share roms.
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There are too many other differences in the hardware component manufacturers and models, as evidenced by the vastly different blobs used between the S5 and Note 4. If only it were as simple as a few changes in the source code...