Android Pay ?? or ... - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm torn on this because my bank doesn't support android pay yet, I've added my google wallet card and and never used it yet. Now i'm on RR CM13 ROM and like changing my DPI messing around with Xposed... Am I the only one who who can live without Android Pay? Are the trade offs worth it?

I never use it, unless I'm bored and want to test it out. So few places actually work with it that I always have my wallet on me anyways.

geoff5093 said:
I never use it, unless I'm bored and want to test it out. So few places actually work with it that I always have my wallet on me anyways.
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I agree, I'm old school. Maybe when it becomes more widely available, ill start caring more.

And Apple pay is not widely used either. This pay system is supposed to be for convenience but its easier to pull out your card even though you have you phone in your hands most of the time.

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[Q] Sprint TV Hack??

Hey guys maybe this has already posted but I've searched around and can't find anything on it: Is there a hack for the Sprint TV so I can have the service without paying? I found a way to bypass paying for the hotspot ($30/m pshhhhh) and wondered if anyone has done the same for Sprint TV... I'm on the Evo 4g w/ EvoNonsense 4.2 mod
Zoidpilot said:
Hey guys maybe this has already posted but I've searched around and can't find anything on it: Is there a hack for the Sprint TV so I can have the service without paying? I found a way to bypass paying for the hotspot ($30/m pshhhhh) and wondered if anyone has done the same for Sprint TV... I'm on the Evo 4g w/ EvoNonsense 4.2 mod
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If you have data you have sprint tv.
The EVO you wish you had
I wish there was a way to watch sprint TV on wifi or 4g
That would be nice.
The EVO you wish you had
I know this sounds kinda dumb but I meant the full service... some channels you cant access without paying and additional $5.00 here $3.00 there... Is there any way to have all channels and on demand available?
Zoidpilot said:
I know this sounds kinda dumb but I meant the full service... some channels you cant access without paying and additional $5.00 here $3.00 there... Is there any way to have all channels and on demand available?
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Yeah. There is. Pay for them.
Do you walk in to a grocery store and just pick up milk and leave? If it's not worth it to buy or you can't afford it, then don't use that part of the service.
Bp3dots said:
Yeah. There is. Pay for them.
Do you walk in to a grocery store and just pick up milk and leave? If it's not worth it to buy or you can't afford it, then don't use that part of the service.
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Wow... didn't have to be so harsh on me... Last time I checked this was a site to help each other out. People have used the HotSpot service without paying for it and I'm pretty sure we could afford it, it's just more convenient. Sarcasm is not appreciated, but I understand where you're coming from I guess. Well if anybody ELSE has something USEFUL to say, please let me know as I would for you
cool thanks for info!
Zoidpilot said:
Wow... didn't have to be so harsh on me... Last time I checked this was a site to help each other out. People have used the HotSpot service without paying for it and I'm pretty sure we could afford it, it's just more convenient. Sarcasm is not appreciated, but I understand where you're coming from I guess. Well if anybody ELSE has something USEFUL to say, please let me know as I would for you
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Sorry if you felt that was unnecessarily harsh. I did, however, provide you with a 100% working way to veiw the channels you want to see.
True... damn it if it wouldn't be awesome though... It was worth a try... along with sprint TV over 4g or wifi
In the nicest way possible, dont try and scam Sprint.
Bp3dots said:
Yeah. There is. Pay for them.
Do you walk in to a grocery store and just pick up milk and leave? If it's not worth it to buy or you can't afford it, then don't use that part of the service.
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Get off your high horse. I suspect you are rooted, therefore I suspect you have some type of wireless tether that you are not paying for. The guy asked a question, if you don't like it then don't answer.
tethering.. is a built-in function of android.. that carriers took out. We are paying for the data... we are only taking back what they took away. wireless tether.. is a different method to transfer data.
sprint tv.. is a service that sprint provides.. and it cost them money to have those services. this site does not allow information to steal applications or services.
phatmanxxl said:
In the nicest way possible, dont try and scam Sprint.
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Anyone rooted and using tether for free is already scamming Sprint... And for a lot more than paying for a channel here and there.
BTW, just because a feature is native to the OS and blocked by a carrier for a premium, doesn't mean we should take it back freely. The reason they have to charge more is because of the added bandwidth that is THEIRS. We pay our monthly dues for our device; not for anything else we want to connect onto it. They most certainly have the right to charge a fee for that feature.
I'm not trying to be a hypocrit here by judging people who tether for free, because I'm rooted and I have used it a couple of times in the past. However, I'm not naive enough to not admit that what I did, and probably will do again in the future, isn't wrong.
akarol said:
Anyone rooted and using tether for free is already scamming Sprint... And for a lot more than paying for a channel here and there.
BTW, just because a feature is native to the OS and blocked by a carrier for a premium, doesn't mean we should take it back freely. The reason they have to charge more is because of the added bandwidth that is THEIRS. We pay our monthly dues for our device; not for anything else we want to connect onto it. They most certainly have the right to charge a fee for that feature.
I'm not trying to be a hypocrit here by judging people who tether for free, because I'm rooted and I have used it a couple of times in the past. However, I'm not naive enough to not admit that what I did, and probably will do again in the future, isn't wrong.
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+1... exactly. Using tether is scamming sprint just as much as what the op wanted to do.
i have unlimited data.. according to sprint and the $10 charge.
i have an android that lets me tether data.....
they lock it.. i unlock it.
well you draw your own connections.. I have mine.
admorris said:
Get off your high horse. I suspect you are rooted, therefore I suspect you have some type of wireless tether that you are not paying for. The guy asked a question, if you don't like it then don't answer.
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He asked a question. I answered it. If you don't care for my answer, feel free to keep it to yourself. I am rooted, and I have yet to turn on wireless tether. I have 0 need for it. Just because you feel it's ok to steal, don't assume that I have the same opinion.
If the original question had been "Hey guys, Admorris has a sweet car. How can I use it without his consent?" Would you still be crying about my answer?
EDIT: As far as tethering, I use the paid version of PDANet, which I've had since shortly after I got the EVO, and long before I rooted. Which is why I don't need the wireless tether that came with my ROM.
This thread needs to be locked!!!!!!!!!
My 2cents:
hacking to get free hot spot is fine because android is open source and sprint locked down that feature. Unlocking it is fine and legal any part of the android OS is free for anyone to hack and use to their liking. Apps are a different story
Sprint tv is propritary feature/app and is not really apart of android it is a service they provide for a fee. Also there are a bunch of free channels like Usa, Fox and a few others with full episodes. Just wish it worked atleast over wifi. Hacking sprint tv i guess would be considered warez and xda does not support or allow warez on this site
flight01 said:
This thread needs to be locked!!!!!!!!!
My 2cents:
hacking to get free hot spot is fine because android is open source and sprint locked down that feature. Unlocking it is fine and legal any part of the android OS is free for anyone to hack and use to their liking. Apps are a different story
Sprint tv is propritary feature/app and is not really apart of android it is a service they provide for a fee. Also there are a bunch of free channels like Usa, Fox and a few others with full episodes. Just wish it worked atleast over wifi. Hacking sprint tv i guess would be considered warez and xda does not support or allow warez on this site
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If you feel that way just report it.
The EVO you wish you had
Whoa Whoa I think this thread is getting a little personal huh guys? no beef here man... I asked a question and Bp3dots answered it. We are all entitled to our own opinion but to be honest I think everyone is getting off topic. If theres no straight answer to my question then just forget it. I truly appreciate any suggestions but I don't wanna start a huge thread of argument. So far I have not found anything on it and although many of you pose good points, I don't wanna steal from anyone especially Sprint. I just thought that it was something that was included and blocked just like the tether function, but I was wrong. Case closed..... And play nice guys

Uh oh for all of us who root noooooooooooo

If true...
http://phandroid.com/2011/04/04/developer-troubled-times-ahead-for-anyone-who-roots/
Oh and where's the tags that the mods add in on My threads about my girl blowing everyone lol I'm still waiting haaaaa update there it is
Oh nooooooeeessss!!!
Sigh.
This really makes me want to just use a laptop for a phone now.
At least I can do what I want with my laptop's data connection.
WTF!??
10char
f***
OK, this is the kinda stuff where either Google needs to get its balls back and *****-slap the carriers, or the FCC needs to actually step in to protect customers.
Either way, it's bull****. Screw Verizon and every other carrier that does this.
this is me forgetting to thank you.
drmacinyasha said:
OK, this is the kinda stuff where either Google needs to get its balls back and *****-slap the carriers, or the FCC needs to actually step in to protect customers.
Either way, it's bull****. Screw Verizon and every other carrier that does this.
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+1
I will never buy a phone from a carrier that implements this crap
drmacinyasha said:
ok, this is the kinda stuff where either google needs to get its balls back and *****-slap the carriers, or the fcc needs to actually step in to protect customers.
Either way, it's bull****. Screw verizon and every other carrier that does this.
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+2788786886
I agree this is total B.S.
lost_man10002 said:
+1
I will never buy a phone from a carrier that implements this crap
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No one should, the consumers run this together we can boycott any carrier who does this dictatorship bull****, I pledge I will not support any carrier who does this.
I'd rather take my evo and flash to cricket
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drmacinyasha said:
OK, this is the kinda stuff where either Google needs to get its balls back and *****-slap the carriers, or the FCC needs to actually step in to protect customers.
Either way, it's bull****. Screw Verizon and every other carrier that does this.
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+1
This brought tears to my eyes.
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Eff that. I will not buy a phone like that... If I have to go back to dumbphones... Then so be it.
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It will never happen. The backlash would just be too much to handle.
And if manufacturers were to begin implementing these types of lockdowns, you know for a fact that they'll just be hacked around sooner or later.
Hello? We are discussing this on XDA... Home to undoubtedly the best group of white hat device hackers I've seen.
We all assume risk when rooting our devices and given the more open nature of Android, there's always the concern that some application will start stealing your data. It's a risk I'm willing to take and I'm sure most everyone else here as well.
mkhopper said:
It will never happen. The backlash would just be too much to handle.
And if manufacturers were to begin implementing these types of lockdowns, you know for a fact that they'll just be hacked around sooner or later.
Hello? We are discussing this on XDA... Home to undoubtedly the best group of white hat device hackers I've seen.
We all assume risk when rooting our devices and given the more open nature of Android, there's always the concern that some application will start stealing your data. It's a risk I'm willing to take and I'm sure most everyone else here as well.
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Here's the problem with what you stated, the percentage of users rooted compared to non rooted, well are not even close, if they did lock out every new phone with master keys that we would never be able to figure out, well it could happen. Even if they did lose every rooted users support financially, they would still have more than 95 percent of their profiT, that's my fear, it'll hurt but not if sprint, Verizon, etc pays the difference or that kind of sort of thing. For example to make it easy, say all rooted user cause 600,000 in lost profit for sprint that they could have potentially gained, well HTC goes hey well lock the device but we want the difference from the users like us who will not purchase the phone. Anyway that's my take on it, enlighten me with your guys thoughts
It may be time to dust off my Razr.
Carriers get smart, devs get smarter......lets not jump the gun and worry about this nonsense now. I will enjoy my rooted phone for now. If this does go down those of you saying you will go to "dumbphones" are full of it. Even if these phones are locked down tighter than a 17 year old girls tuna you will still use it. I see the future as phones will be so fast why would you need to root; I love to root, I've been rooting ALL my phones since g1 and the sole purpose was the speed my phone up. Dual core phone no root ehh who cares. I will NOT use a free phone just because these phones in the future will possibly be locked. One can only hope this security doesn't see light but if it does I'm sure we'll be ok.
iitreatedii said:
Here's the problem with what you stated, the percentage of users rooted compared to non rooted, well are not even close, if they did lock out every new phone with master keys that we would never be able to figure out, well it could happen. Even if they did lose every rooted users support financially, they would still have more than 95 percent of their profiT, that's my fear, it'll hurt but not if sprint, Verizon, etc pays the difference or that kind of sort of thing. For example to make it easy, say all rooted user cause 600,000 in lost profit for sprint that they could have potentially gained, well HTC goes hey well lock the device but we want the difference from the users like us who will not purchase the phone. Anyway that's my take on it, enlighten me with your guys thoughts
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I've heard the "rooted users are the extreme minority" comment countless times, and all logic says it really must be true.
However, when I go to the market, click apps, then all applications, then click top paid, 3 of the top 5 require root. As an honest question, are my market results tailored for my usage history or is that the same "top paid" list everyone sees? If it is indeed the same for everyone then it becomes much harder to quantify rooted users being in the minority.
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dirkyd3rk said:
Carriers get smart, devs get smarter......lets not jump the gun and worry about this nonsense now. I will enjoy my rooted phone for now. If this does go down those of you saying you will go to "dumbphones" are full of it. Even if these phones are locked down tighter than a 17 year old girls tuna you will still use it. I see the future as phones will be so fast why would you need to root; I love to root, I've been rooting ALL my phones since g1 and the sole purpose was the speed my phone up. Dual core phone no root ehh who cares. I will NOT use a free phone just because these phones in the future will possibly be locked. One can only hope this security doesn't see light but if it does I'm sure we'll be ok.
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Completely agree about the smartphone part but do not about the master key part, it would take years like 75 - 100 if the key is properly secure for many and I mean many super computers to solve that algorithm...look at the droids, the only reason on a side note the ps3 master key was released was because the people who secured it messed up in the formula, and that still took 5 years..
the consequence would never be the same.

Google Wallet experience

Just curious to know what sort of experiences people with NFC and Google Wallet have had, before I order a Nexus 4. If you have/had a Google Wallet phone, where did you pay for things over NFC, and how common did you do it? How fast was paying for it?
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Just curious to know what sort of experiences people with NFC and Google Wallet have had, before I order a Nexus 4. If you have/had a Google Wallet phone, where did you pay for things over NFC, and how common did you do it? How fast was paying for it?
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I put it on my AT&T Galaxy S3, depending on where you are from, I used it to buy things at Meijer and McDonald's.
Other than that, not many people support it really, though a newer Walgreens in my area also supports it.
Overall though it's awesome - put your pin in, hold up your phone, done.
Seriously is awesome and I truly wish more places had it.
I only ever used it once in a while, though that was due to switching ROMs and it's a pain to get it set up again and working on a new ROM.
For some reason, my experience with my GNex has been hit or miss. Sometimes it works when I place it on the reader, sometimes it doesn't and I look like a damn idiot. I've only been able to use it at McDonalds, but it has done it at more than one location.
random1204 said:
I put it on my AT&T Galaxy S3, depending on where you are from, I used it to buy things at Meijer and McDonald's.
Other than that, not many people support it really, though a newer Walgreens in my area also supports it.
Overall though it's awesome - put your pin in, hold up your phone, done.
Seriously is awesome and I truly wish more places had it.
I only ever used it once in a while, though that was due to switching ROMs and it's a pain to get it set up again and working on a new ROM.
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That sounds pretty sweet. I wish gas stations would support it - that would be the best. How is it hard to set up?
k3nav7 said:
That sounds pretty sweet. I wish gas stations would support it - that would be the best. How is it hard to set up?
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Very easy to set up. But I don't see (now) the advantage over using my credit card. I used that 10 that comes with GNex, and then never used it again. It's a fun thing to show off to your iPhone friends, but not really practical since most stores don't support it. I just tried it in Meijer and that's it.
(If Trader Joe's support, would be another story).
I use it every time I can. The places I have used it at are mcd, Walgreen, rite aid, Albertsons used to have one, best buy, but the one here doesn't work for some reason. The problem is I hardly ever go to these places, so I never get to use it. I really wish everywhere did take it. Then I wouldn't need a real wallet. Just my id and phone.
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no prob with the wallet yet
there are also rumors (due to a leaked app version) about a google wallet card, which you can activate with your phone for one transcation like a regular credit card.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/11/01/introducing-the-physical-google-wallet-card-coming-soon-to-google-wallet-and-more-new-features/
I buy so much from online retailers these days reliance is waning. It might be nice for the grocery store I walk past on my way home but I usually end up using my debit card to get cash back to avoid an ATM stop.
That said I've used it at Duane Reade and a few other places with no problems.

Confirmed: Rooting & tripping Knox will disable Samsung Pay

However, we advise you to refrain from rooting your device, as it will disable Samsung Pay, just like KNOX. When you root your device, the integrity gets breached, which is necessary for important and sensitive features like mobile payments.
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Source: sammoble.com
CafeKampuchia said:
Source: sammoble.com
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That post has no concrete evidence (tests done with app/confirmation from samsung) and is pure speculation. Was posted on reddit as well. The article assumes that since Samsung Wallet doesn't work when the phone is rooted, it is most likely that Samsung Pay won't work either.
evonc said:
That post has no concrete evidence (tests done with app/confirmation from samsung) and is pure speculation. Was posted on reddit as well. The article assumes that since Samsung Wallet doesn't work when the phone is rooted, it is most likely that Samsung Pay won't work either.
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Don't bet on that. Sammobile has sources inside Samsung and has their stuff in order 99.8% of the time. I wouldn't have posted this if I didn't think the source was credible.
Well I'm screwed...
This sucks if really true.
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I remember a mod for Isis/Softcard to get it to work when rooted. Maybe one will come out for Samsung Pay.
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I can live with that.
Other paying methods like Google Wallet, PayPal with fingerprint and Vodafone Wallet are still working (although you have to use root hiding methods).
I do a lot online buying and pay by cash for gas...etc, so is not really affect me.
Was holding off root for to find our but I caved and rooted to disable tome apps and gain battery life. Many of us won't enjoy it then since we love custom roms and kernels. Someone may find a patch eventually
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osmosizzz said:
Someone may find a patch eventually
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It depends on whether Samsung Pay functionality is broken only by root or by tripping Knox. If root, then unrooting or using a root blocker may restore functionality. If it depends on Knox, there is almost no hope.
If i root so samsung pay not working forewer ? What about when i unroot device ?
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I remember a mod for Isis/Softcard to get it to work when rooted. Maybe one will come out for Samsung Pay.
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well i had softcard working on Note 3 with root and Xposed but it didnt always work and it appears that this is much deeper.
there is no root for my Verizon Edge yet so i dont have this decision to make but if i did i would probably wait and be sure.
I was anticipating this to be true but still holding out hope. Resisting the urge to root is killing me softly.
Unless Samsung Pay is the most important feature or reason for getting this device, this news is not newsworthy. I'm not going to stay unrooted for a feature I would probably never use. Pulling out the old plastic credit card and using that works every time and is accepted virtually everywhere. I may not be able to say the same for Samsung Pay.
vanessaem said:
Unless Samsung Pay is the most important feature or reason for getting this device, this new is not newsworthy. I'm not going to stay unrooted for a feature I would probably never use. Pulling out the old plastic credit card and using that works every time and is accepted virtually everywhere. I may not be able to say the same for Samsung Pay.
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amen to that, also I didn't buy this phone for this feature in 1st place away, rooted it on very day I got it.
vanessaem said:
Unless Samsung Pay is the most important feature or reason for getting this device, this news is not newsworthy. I'm not going to stay unrooted for a feature I would probably never use. Pulling out the old plastic credit card and using that works every time and is accepted virtually everywhere. I may not be able to say the same for Samsung Pay.
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THIS +1000 :good::good::good::good::good:
Did you REALLY get this phone to use it as a credit card?
And yeah, I don't believe much of what I read on SamMobile; when Samsung/ my CARRIER makes an OFFICIAL announcement, then I'll believe it..
Its the internet, remember, stop believing anything you read on it..
Wow that sucks for people who rooted. Samsung pay is pretty neat to have, considering it works just like plastic.
I'm totally on the same page as many here. Even if my phone had Wallet, Pay or some other app, I wouldn't use it--I'd pull out my credit card instead. The downside for me is that I've never kept a smartphone for over a year, and the prospect of listing one on swappa or ebay with broken features that will degrade the value of the device is pretty unattractive. And not rooting is not an option for me.
I also think newbs should be made aware of the consequences of rooting. I'm not worried about most of you guys because you know what you are doing.
Hmmm, lets see. Root is absolutely essential to me and I wont buy a phone that isn't root capable under any circumstances because I'd rather be kicked in the testicles every day as a wake up alarm than own a phone without it.
I've had nfc payments since they started and outside of a few purchases to try it out I haven't used it since. I don't find it any easier to pull out my cell phone than my wallet and half the time I leave the phone in the car anyways when I go in a store. Meanwhile I have to carry my wallet anyways which is filled with all manner of plastic.
I forgot what we were talking about, what was the question again?
Been using Google wallet at coffee shops , Wallgreens, etc. Pay is supposed to be capable of being used at any retail place with a magnetic credit card strip. Love to have the convenience. Anyway, there is much less bloatware on the Samsung S 6 so I think I can wait until further acknowledgement as far as if a developer can come up with a fix to use samsung pay once your phone is rooted which I'm sure will happen.

Android Pay Issues

I have had reliable Android Pay experience with two phones in the past at several businesses that I visit frequently (HTC M8, and Nexus 5X), but my Nexus 6P is not doing so well.
When I try and use Android Pay, it often doesn't register at all, or acts buggy. The last time I tried using it, the Android Pay screen kept popping up rapidly as I held it on the terminal, as if it was registering over and over. At another business it took me a couple tries and moving the phone around quite a bit to get it to work, but it eventually did.
I also have tried this with two different 6P's because my first one had a screen defect, and they both had similar results.
Does anyone else have this issue? Have you have that Android Pay works better with the phone face up or face down? Or maybe if you line up the phone a certain way on the terminal?
I absolutely love this phone, but this is disappointing because my past Pay experiences have been so seamless.
I have used it several time with no issues. NFC is under the camera visor so touch that to the reader.
It seems something changed today that "fixed" Pay and even systemless does not work anymore. I'm beginning to think it's either stock and Pay or custom and no Pay. it just gets to be such a hassle.
jackpollard said:
It seems something changed today that "fixed" Pay and even systemless does not work anymore. I'm beginning to think it's either stock and Pay or custom and no Pay. it just gets to be such a hassle.
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That's what I'm beginning to think, and that's not an easy decision.
Solutions Etcetera said:
I have used it several time with no issues. NFC is under the camera visor so touch that to the reader.
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Really? That's good to know, I'll keep that in mind.
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